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| 1332.1 | the Bible doesn't support the health & wealth nonsense | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Wed Mar 05 1997 12:17 | 2 |
| I don't believe it is about wealth. The context to me looks like He's
teaching about salvation.
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| 1332.2 | | BIGQ::SILVA | http://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/ | Wed Mar 05 1997 12:19 | 4 |
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Because without just using the part of Scripture that suits their
needs, they would find they can't use Scripture to hurt another, etc.
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| 1332.3 | | APACHE::MYERS | | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:03 | 17 |
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Truly, with God all things *are* possible.
I don't think the verse is *just* about wealth, nor *just* about
salvation. This section is about how possessions and prosperity can
easily shift our priorities, our focus, away from following the way of
Christ to following the way of creature comforts.
God knows human nature; he knows our hearts. The path of righteousness
-- the way of Christ -- is a hard one to follow for humans. In fact it
is impossible, given our human nature alone, to follow the Jesus'
commands. That is why we *need* God to come into our hearts to
strengthen us, to quietly guide us, that we might keep our priorities
straight. So with God it *is* possible for the camel to pass through
the needles eye.
Eric
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| 1332.4 | | THOLIN::TBAKER | Flawed To Perfection | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:09 | 6 |
| > straight. So with God it *is* possible for the camel to pass through
> the needles eye.
But, man! That's gotta hurt!
Tom
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| 1332.5 | | ALFSS1::BENSONA | Eternal Weltanschauung | Wed Mar 05 1997 16:04 | 4 |
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Well stated, Eric.
jeff
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| 1332.6 | | APACHE::MYERS | | Wed Mar 05 1997 16:31 | 9 |
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re .5
Once again I disagree with you Jeff... No.. wait a minute!...
Sorry, force of habit :^)
Peace,
Eric
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| 1332.7 | | SMARTT::DGAUTHIER | | Wed Mar 05 1997 17:27 | 6 |
| So it's possible for those who do not accept Jesus as God and savior to
attain salvation. And it's possible that the inerrant position is
wrong
Hmmmmm.... I like this passage.
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| 1332.8 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Spigot of pithiness | Wed Mar 05 1997 19:34 | 26 |
| .3
> I don't think the verse is *just* about wealth, nor *just* about
> salvation. This section is about how possessions and prosperity can
> easily shift our priorities, our focus, away from following the way of
> Christ to following the way of creature comforts.
Agreed. At the same time, I know how the teaching is easily dismissed by
good Christian people who believe there's no need to discard their wealth,
because they're not really attached to it. All things are possible with God,
making it unneccessary to do anything beyond bearing a mindset of Christian
spirituality and material detachment, they reason.
> God knows human nature; he knows our hearts. The path of righteousness
> -- the way of Christ -- is a hard one to follow for humans. In fact it
> is impossible, given our human nature alone, to follow the Jesus'
> commands. That is why we *need* God to come into our hearts to
> strengthen us, to quietly guide us, that we might keep our priorities
> straight. So with God it *is* possible for the camel to pass through
> the needles eye.
Agreed, again. All things are possible with God. Not all things are probable,
however. Is that not so?
Richard
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