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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

1311.0. "What happens upon death?" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (You're so good-looking!) Thu Jan 02 1997 14:04

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1311.1MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyThu Jan 02 1997 14:561
1311.2SMARTT::DGAUTHIERThu Jan 02 1997 15:072
1311.3MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyThu Jan 02 1997 16:441
1311.4CSC32::J_CHRISTIEYou're so good-looking!Thu Jan 02 1997 23:468
1311.5SMARTT::DGAUTHIERFri Jan 03 1997 10:5310
1311.6CSC32::J_CHRISTIEYou're so good-looking!Fri Jan 03 1997 12:215
1311.7SMARTT::DGAUTHIERFri Jan 03 1997 13:2835
1311.8CSC32::HOEPNERA closed mouth gathers no feetFri Jan 03 1997 18:1319
1311.9Internal PointerCSC32::J_CHRISTIEYou're so good-looking!Sat Jan 04 1997 16:468
1311.10CSC32::J_CHRISTIEYou're so good-looking!Sat Jan 04 1997 16:4830
1311.11for those who are born again...PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Tue Jan 07 1997 16:361
1311.12CSC32::J_CHRISTIEYou're so good-looking!Tue Jan 07 1997 18:476
1311.13PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Tue Jan 07 1997 18:531
1311.14No need to guessSALEM::RUSSOTue Jan 07 1997 22:248
1311.15IVOS01::SKELLY_JOWed Jan 08 1997 02:459
1311.16Soul sleep is unscripturalPHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Wed Jan 08 1997 11:2423
1311.17SMARTT::DGAUTHIERWed Jan 08 1997 13:416
1311.18SUBSYS::LOPEZHe showed me a River!Wed Jan 08 1997 13:517
1311.19PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Wed Jan 08 1997 14:0212
1311.20CSC32::J_CHRISTIEYou're so good-looking!Thu Jan 09 1997 13:3024
1311.21CSC32::J_CHRISTIEYou're so good-looking!Thu Jan 09 1997 13:3613
1311.22PHXSS1::HEISERR.I.O.T.Thu Jan 09 1997 13:364
1311.23IVOSS1::SKELLY_JOMon Feb 03 1997 22:0118
    Richard,

    This is just extra info for you:

    There's an operation to cure brain aneurysms that involves lowering the
    temperature of the body until brain activity stops. Then the heart is
    stopped and the blood drained from the body.  By all legal definitions, the
    patient is dead. The doctors then operate on the brain to fix the aneurysm.
    After that, they reinsert the blood back into the body, warm it to the
    proper temperature and shock the heart into beating again. Resurrection in
    a way, I suppose.

    Human beings can apparently be stopped and rebooted like any machine, given
    the right conditions.

    FYI,

    John
1311.24MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyTue Feb 04 1997 09:251
    WOW!!  This is amazing!!
1311.25parts are partsPHXSS1::HEISERMaranatha!Tue Feb 04 1997 15:202
    There are some heart operations too where it is totally removed from
    the person and repaired on a surgical platform/table.
1311.26Jesus Christ speaks of the SoulPHXSS1::HEISERMaranatha!Tue Feb 25 1997 12:105
    John 12:25
    He who loves his 'psukche' loses it; and he who hates his 'psukche' in this
    world shall keep it to life eternal. (NAS)
    
    'psukche' is Greek for "Soul."
1311.27CSC32::J_CHRISTIESpigot of pithinessTue Feb 25 1997 12:516
    .26
    
    Is it not from that Greek word that we derive the word "psyche"?
    
    Richard
    
1311.28Does the identity remain intact?CSC32::J_CHRISTIESpigot of pithinessTue Feb 25 1997 12:524
    What happens to one's identity after death?
    
    Richard
    
1311.29PHXSS1::HEISERMaranatha!Tue Feb 25 1997 13:011
    Biblical examples state that they do.
1311.30RDGENG::YERKESSbring me sunshine in your smileWed Feb 26 1997 07:5920
re .28

	Richard,

	Jesus spoke of a coming resurrection in John 5:28,29 NWT and persons
	coming out of the memorial tombs. The reason being is that when
	we die we cease consciousness (compare Eccl 9:5,10, Psalms 146:4,
	Psalms 6:5, Isaiah 38:18, Eccl 3:19,20, Psalms 115:17). Our
	personalities only remain in peoples memories. God is not forgetful,
	hence Job expressed the following words "O that thou wouldest hide
	me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until they wrath
	past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!"
	Job 14:13 KJV. God will remember Job when Jesus gives his commanding
	call and Job comes out of the memorial tomb. Seeing that God can number
	the very hairs on our head, he can also remember in every detail 
	our personality or our identity. So yes, it would seem so that our
	identity can remain intact but only if God remembers us.

	Phil.
	
1311.31God's Word and the SoulPHXSS1::HEISERMaranatha!Wed Feb 26 1997 10:0111
        Christ taught that there is life after death (Luke 16:19-31), Christ
        promised continuing life the same day after death (Luke 23:39-43), and
        Paul taught an independent existence apart from the body after death
        (II Corinthians 5:5-8; Philippians 1:19-24).
        
        The immortality of the soul is a God-inspired truth (Ecclesiastes 12:7,
        II Corinthians 5:1,6-8).

        The resurrection is a returning of the soul back to its body (I Kings
        17:17-24, Luke 7:11-17), and will happen when Christ returns
        (Luke 24:36-43, Philippians 3:20-21, I Corinthians 15:39-54).
1311.32CSC32::J_CHRISTIESpigot of pithinessThu Feb 27 1997 14:224
    Of course, one's soul may not be the same thing as one's identity.
    
    Richard