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Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1180.0. "Dragons" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Ps. 85.10) Mon Nov 13 1995 16:23

The following are a few of the verses in the Bible where dragons are
mentioned (all from the King James Version) --
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Psalm 148:7  Praise the LORD from the earth, ye �dragons,� and all
deeps:

Psalm 91:13  Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young
lion and the �dragon� shalt thou trample under feet.

Psalm 74:13  Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest
the heads of the �dragons� in the waters.

Isaiah 27:1  In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong
sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even
leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the �dragon�
that [is] in the sea.

Isaiah 51:9  Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake,
as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. [Art] thou
not it that hath cut Rahab, [and] wounded the �dragon?�

Psalm 44:19  Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of
�dragons,� and covered us with the shadow of death.

Jeremiah 51:37  And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for
�dragons,� and astonishment, and an hissing, without an
inhabitant.

Isaiah 13:22  And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their
desolate houses, and �dragons� in [their] pleasant palaces: and
her time [is] near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

Isaiah 43:20  The beast of the field shall honour me, the �dragons� and
the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, [and] rivers
in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

Job 30:29  I am a brother to �dragons,� and a companion to owls.

Isaiah 34:13  And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and
brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an
habitation of �dragons,� [and] a court for owls.

Isaiah 35:7  And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the
thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of �dragons,�
where each lay, [shall be] grass with reeds and rushes.

Revelation 12:9  And the great �dragon� was cast out, that old serpent,
called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:

Revelation 13:11  And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth;
and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a �dragon.�

Revelation 16:13  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out
of the mouth of the �dragon,� and out of the mouth of the beast,
and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

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1180.1CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Mon Nov 13 1995 16:358
Well, are these creatures factual or mythical?  Were dragons around at
one time, but are now extinct?  Are dragons actually other creatures
which have been misidentified?

Or are dragons the stuff of poetry, imagery and symbolism?

Richard

1180.2CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Mon Nov 13 1995 16:4510


 I could be mistaken, but I don't believe that the "dragon" as mentioned
 in the Bible are those creatures we may visualize as being flame throwing
 reptiles.



 Jim
1180.3Dragons are not yet extinctCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Nov 13 1995 17:355
Anyone ever seen a Komodo dragon?

Very large lizard which exists today.

/john
1180.4CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Mon Nov 13 1995 18:328
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    So, the dragons spoken of in the Bible are in fact Komodo dragons?
    
    I sense that's not what you're saying.
    
    Richard
    
1180.5COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Nov 13 1995 21:423
Actually, the Greek word "drakon" was originally used for any large serpent.

/john
1180.6CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Mon Nov 13 1995 22:139



 Precisely..



 Jim
1180.7POWDML::FLANAGANlet your light shineTue Nov 14 1995 09:109
    Actually it is common in Near Eastern mythology for the God to slay the
    premordial monster usually a sea monster.
    
    The old testament does not directly capture this theme in its creation
    story but shadows of that battle between God and the sea monster are
    glimpsed in the Psalms and elsewhere.
    
    What is shows is the congrence between the most primitive forms of
    Yahweh worship and other Near Eastern religions.
1180.8CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Tue Nov 14 1995 20:525
    Yes, curiously, the Greek word "drakon" literally means "the seeing
    one," according to my dictionary.
    
    Richard
    
1180.9CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Tue Nov 14 1995 22:4016


 According to Strong's concordance, the word translated as dragon (strong's
#8577) used 6 times in the OT, is the Hebrew word  tanniyn, or tanniym
 pronounced tan-'neen is a marine or land *monster* (italics strong's)
 or dragon, sea-monster, serpent whale.


 In the NT, strongs 1404, drakon  (drak' own) used 13 times and is an 
 alternate form of  derkomai (to look); a fabulous kind of serpent.




 Jim
1180.10CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Wed Nov 15 1995 14:0414
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    Well, that fits with my understanding of what a dragon is supposed to
    be.  Thanks for the research, Jim.
    
    As I read the Hebrew Bible, identifying a creature as a dragon usually
    indicated that the beast was more extraordinary than simply a large
    serpent.  As you can see in .0, the word dragon appears more than 6
    times in the OT.  In some of them, especially the expressions having
    to do with dragons and owls, I can see it merely meaning snakes.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
1180.11CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Wed Nov 15 1995 17:1712



 I didn't look up the plural usages, only the singular, hence my total
 is a bit less than what you posted.





 Jim
1180.12CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Thu Nov 16 1995 13:597
    Notice .0 also contains references to "leviathan" and to a creature
    apparently bearing the proper name "Rahab."
    
    What are these?
    
    Richard