Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

    Assuming a team were to be sent to Bosnia as an example...what would be
    their course of action in attempting to establish peace in an area such
    as that??
    
    -Jack

From:	CSC32::J_CHRISTIE   "Ps. 85.10"  7-SEP-1995 11:47:41.36
To:	@cpt
CC:	J_CHRISTIE
Subj:	What action might CPT take in Bosnia?

Dear CPT friends,

	Perhaps you would care to elaborate on the following question.

Shalom,
Richard

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    Assuming a team were to be sent to Bosnia as an example...what would be
    their course of action in attempting to establish peace in an area such
    as that??
    
    -Jack

    Incidently, I consider their ministry highly honorable.  I am just
    curious as to their methodology...i.e. do they consider themselves
    potential martyrs, do they try to speak to multiple people as Paul did,
    do they do it more on a personal level as Mother Theres does, etc.
    
    -Jack

    How nice.
    

    ZZZ    How nice.
    
    Either you are being genuine here, which I would appreciate, or this is
    a knee jerk reaction to a discussion we are having in another string. 
    Which is it?

    Or it's something else.
    
    Richard
    

    Great, care to let me in on it?
    
    It is a Godly act to confront somebody who has wronged you.  It is an
    ungodly principle to harbor ill feelings and not confront your brother. 
    Therefore, I would appreciate the same consideration you would afford
    anybody wlse here in this forum!  
    
    Hold no punches please.  I have been known to apologize!
    
    -Jack

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>    Incidently, I consider their ministry highly honorable.  I am just
>    curious as to their methodology...i.e. do they consider themselves
>    potential martyrs, do they try to speak to multiple people as Paul did,
>    do they do it more on a personal level as Mother Theres does, etc.
    
I neither seek nor want your pat-on-the-head approval.

Richard

    Richard:
    
    Stop walking in the flesh and start walking in the Spirit!
    
    -Jack

 ZZ   I neither seek nor want your pat-on-the-head approval.
    
    In fact, I am not going to let you get away with this.  I think you owe
    me an apology.
    
    

    	Jack --
    
    	Given the history between you and Richard, I can understand him
    	seeing your entry as patronizing, just as you might do the same
    	had he held out the olive branch to you.  Most anyone's first 
    	instinct would be to examine the end of the stick to see if it's 
    	dirty.

    My Entry:
    
 Z    Incidently, I consider their ministry highly honorable.  I am just
 Z    curious as to their methodology...i.e. do they consider themselves
 Z    potential martyrs, do they try to speak to multiple people as Paul
 Z    did, do they do it more on a personal level as Mother Theres does, etc.
    
    His Entry:
    
    Z  How nice
    
    No...Richard, you owe me an apology!    
    

    
>    No...Richard, you owe me an apology!    
    

    I find it rather depressing that this tit-for-tat negativism is going
    on in a topic whose title refers to Christian peacemakers...

    Shame on us.
    
    	Eric

    So do I Eric.  Yesterday I challenged by brother on some of the issues
    regarding Mario Cuomo's policies, he didn't want to answer...that's
    fine.  Then in other notes such as this one, I started getting
    condescending replies back from my entries.  I then followed by asking
    if there was something I did and even stated I would apologize. 
    Richard not only refused to tell me what I did wrong but then continued
    with the snide remarks.  I then told him he was being cranky and needed
    to walk in the Spirit.  Finally, I thought to myself, "I'm being
    treated like dirt in this forum and I don't appreciate it."  To me,
    this is malicious and based on a carnal attitude."
    
    Richard, either tell me what I did wrong or apologize.  It is part of
    manhood Richard and it is what Jesus taught about resolving conflict
    with your brother.  How about it?!
    
    -Jack

Sidebar continued starting with 9.1862

Richard

From:	DECPA::"[email protected]" 14-SEP-1995 12:28:13.69
To:	12-Sep-1995 1733 <csc32::j_christie>
CC:	
Subj:	Re: A question about possible CPT action in Bosnia

We don't have plans to send a team there and have not studied the 
situation carefully and therefore would be reluctant to respond in 
any detailed or intellegent way.  Sorry.  Gene Stoltzfus

> Dear CPT friends,
> 
> 	Perhaps you would care to elaborate on the following question.
> 
> Shalom,
> Richard
> 
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> Note 1134.1         Discussion of Christian Peacemaker Teams              1 of 1
> XXXXXX::JMARTIN "I press on toward the goal"          5 lines   6-SEP-1995 13:38
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Assuming a team were to be sent to Bosnia as an example...what would be
>     their course of action in attempting to establish peace in an area such
>     as that??
>     
>     -Jack
> 
> 

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    Based on the last report from Hebron, it obviously makes a case for
    those who believe in the Right to Bear Arms.  
    
    -Jack

>Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT) is an initiative among Mennonite,
>Brethren, and Friends congregations and meetings who participate in
>public responses to organized violence.

I noticed for the first time in 1133.59 that Friends congregations have
been added to the supporters of Christian Peacemaker Teams and I am
encouraged by it.

Shalom,
Richard

I've decided to discontinue the regular posting of updates from Christian
Peacemaker Teams.  The 100 entries already posted in topic 1133 are enough
to gain a sense of CPT's mission and efforts.  To date, the topic has
sparked little interest.

Shalom,
Richard

I have read and enjoyed most of them, and wish you would continue
to post them.

/john

>I have read and enjoyed most of them, and wish you would continue
>to post them.

Err... yeah.  What John said.

Tom Baker

    .21 & .22
    
    Er...okay...I'll reconsider.
    
    Thanks.
    
    Richard
    

    richard I als like scanning through your reports.  It is nice to see
    someone trying to do womething productive with their face, instead of
    trying to convert this pagan.
    
    meg

    err
    
    Face = faith
    
    I guess my slip is showing, the freudian one at any rate.
    
    meg

I have begun posting some entries from Christian Peacemaker Teams in
GRIM::QUAKER, because of CPT's relevance and connection to the
Society of Friends (Quakers).

To add QUAKER to your notebook, press KP7.

Shalom,
Richard

    Apparently Japan considers the threat of aggression from North Korea
    and China to be minimal.  I say this as a layperson who has little
    knowledge of the scope of defense in Japan.
    
    -Jack