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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
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1130.0. "On Human Beings with Handicaps" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Ps. 85.10) Thu Aug 31 1995 15:21

Floyd Cochran, former recruiter for the White supremacist Aryan Nation
church, is a man with a mission: to expose and oppose his former allies.
Cochran's story was profiled recently in a segment on CBS Sunday Morning.

What caused his repentance?  His son was born with a cleft palate, a physical
anomaly.  Cochran was told by those of his prior persuasion the child should
be destroyed, because of the child's genetic imperfection.

In some cultures, a handicapped child is considered a sign of God's disfavor.
When faced with a man blind from birth, Jesus' disciples asked about the sin
of the man and his parents.

I have heard that among some Native Americans it is considered a high honor
to be the parents of a handicapped child.

I know my parents were not extraordinary.  Yet they had me.

Shalom,
Richard

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1130.1APACHE::MYERSHe literally meant it figurativelyThu Aug 31 1995 16:1816
    Sometimes stuff happens. I am of the mind that God created the
    Universe and the laws by which it operates, but he does not as a
    rule intervene with those laws. He created a miraculous universe,
    but not a perfect one. Perhaps the human soul is healthier
    striving for perfection than actually living in perfection; I
    don't know.

    I personally don't think that having a handicapped child is an
    indication of the parent's disfavor or honor in the eyes of God.
    It does seem to me, however, that people struck with adversity --
    be it physical, emotional, financial... what ever -- tend to find
    peace in Christ. The more hurdles we face in life the more we can
    become either bitter or hopeful. The hopeful seek relief; and
    those who seek will find it in the message of Christ.

    	Eric 
1130.2GRIM::MESSENGERBob MessengerThu Aug 31 1995 16:195
At least two of my relatives were born with handicaps: a first cousin on
my father's side was born with a cleft palate, and a second cousin on my
mother's side has Downs Syndrome.

				-- Bob
1130.3CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Sat Sep 02 1995 13:446
    	I believe that God entrusts with special favor the to special
    	people the trials (and encumbent joys) of raising disadvantaged
    	children of whatever handicap -- physical, mental, emotional.
    
    	"Help me to remember, Lord, that you will not ask me to do 
    	anything today that you and I cannot handle together."
1130.4special peoplePENUTS::JCONTETue Sep 05 1995 12:025
    There are special benefits that the handicap have.  We have to take off
    our blinders to see them.  Don't forget that they are God's children
    too.
    
    Jeanne
1130.5CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Tue Sep 05 1995 18:388
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    I once heard a sermon wherein the preacher said that we are who we are
    not in spite of our handicaps, but rather because of our handicaps.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
1130.6CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Tue Sep 26 1995 14:057
As I said in .0, I don't think my parents were extraordinary people, at
least not to begin with.  I think, however, they became extraordinary
people, in part from having to raise a child who was handicapped.

Shalom,
Richard

1130.7CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Tue Sep 26 1995 16:294
    	An interesting quote I heard, and Richard's revisit here reminded
    	me to post it.
    
    	God doesnot call the abled.  He ables the called.
1130.8CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Tue Sep 26 1995 16:4219




 My best friend was born blind.  He's managed to become a piano tuner, 
 a very good piano player and accoplished musician on several other instruments.
 He thanks God he was born blind, as he figures if he wasn't he would have
 been dead a long time ago, likely in an unsaved condition.  He was quite
 the partier until an accident slowed him down.

 I tend to forget he's blind.  We frequently go out on church visitation and
 he plays piano at church services we put on at nursing homes.  And anybody
 in the church who has a piano calls him when they need tuning.  Any fees he
 gets goes to the church mission fund.



 Jim
1130.9CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Tue Sep 26 1995 17:072
    	Hey, when I was a kid, the piano tuner that everyone in our
    	parish used was also blind.
1130.10CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Tue Sep 26 1995 17:314


 How about that?  How long ago was that?  
1130.11CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Tue Sep 26 1995 19:271
    	late 1960's through the mid 1970's.
1130.12CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Wed Sep 27 1995 00:1910


 Ah...couldn't have been Ron then.  He's in his early 50's, but was
 living in Georgia around that time.




 Jim