Title: | Discussions from a Christian Perspective |
Notice: | Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome! |
Moderator: | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE |
Created: | Mon Sep 17 1990 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1362 |
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So many times we hear how the Gospel message is suppose to turn one's thinking upside down. Such a phenomenon is genuine, I believe, as is evident by the lives of Paul of Tarsus, Francis of Assisi, and others. The transformation, however, seems practically imperceptible in others. Even with time, so many of the converted seem as self-concerned and observably unaffected as ever. What's going on here? Shalom, Richard
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1129.1 | CSLALL::HENDERSON | I'd rather have Jesus | Mon Aug 28 1995 17:45 | 18 | |
I dunno. I've seen major change in a lot of people over the years. some of us still stumble in sin, and say things we wish we didn't, and do things we wish we didn't and try to be "perfect" which is what the non Christian world seems to expect of born again Christians..In some the change is not as perceptable as some might like, some don't want to see the change in others, as it points to their own condition, but the bottom line is we can't see the hearts of those whom the Lord has changed, and the outward change that so many want to see immediately takes a bit longer. As the Lord works in my oldest son, and I see the step by step, changes in him, I see just how powerful the message of Jesus Christ is. Jim visiting briefly while on vacation | |||||
1129.2 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Wed Aug 30 1995 15:15 | 6 | |
Would it be fair to say that not all the converted have their thinking turned upside down as a result of the experience? Shalom, Richard | |||||
1129.3 | "Lord I Believe, Help Thou Mine Unbelief." | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | Wed Aug 30 1995 16:21 | 12 | |
I think its some combination of how much truth has been discerned and the extent of the faith that has laid hold of it. So... Someone who has not had their thinking turned upside down probably was not exposed to a whole lot of light (as if any of us have been) and perhaps did not lay hold of it with a whole lot of faith. Tony | |||||
1129.4 | APACHE::MYERS | He literally meant it figuratively | Wed Aug 30 1995 16:30 | 7 | |
If one is raised in a Christian home, can they really really be expected to "have their thinking turned upside down?" I mean, if upside down thinking is what one is taught from the beginning, how are they "born again" in the sense of Saul or Nicodemus? Eric | |||||
1129.5 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Wed Aug 30 1995 19:28 | 7 | |
.4 Such questions have crossed my mind as well. Shalom, Richard |