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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

1111.0. "interdependent web of existence/Body of Christ" by POWDML::FLANAGAN (let your light shine) Thu Jul 13 1995 11:37

    
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1111.1POWDML::FLANAGANlet your light shineThu Jul 13 1995 11:407
    In our UU Covenant we covenant to  "Affirm the interdependent web of
    existence to which we are a part".  Paul describes the Body of Christ
    as the fellowship of all persons who are in Christ.
    
    As a Universalist Christian I had equated the two.
    
    Is a body of Christ that includes less than all of humanity too small!
1111.2demonstratableHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jul 13 1995 12:1716
The term - "interdependent web of existence" - has a factual basis
independent of faith.

We're pysically composed of atoms and molecules created outside of
ourselves, reusing matter that was once in other forms. This includes
both inanimate things, like minerals and water, as well as living things
such as the food we eat.

My particlar belief in this connectedness seems to be along the lines of
American Indians. The interdependence eliminates the separation of us
from the rest of the God's creation. What we are was once another part of
it all and when we physically die, we'll be recycled.

However, I don't see that this is any group's exclusive phenomenom. 

TTom
1111.3POWDML::FLANAGANlet your light shineMon Jul 17 1995 09:5918
    TTom,
    
    I agree with you that what us UU's call the "interdependent web of
    existence"  is not Unique to UU's or any other group.  I'm struggling
    with developing my own personal theology  knowing that the principles
    of the "Worth and dignity of every human" and the "interdependent web of
    existence to which we are all a part" are my cornerstone beliefs which
    frame my religious perspective.
    
    I also know that on a emotional, intuitive level, I also respond to the
    Christian symbols, stories, and the teachings of Jesus and much of the
    theology of Paul.  I struggle with how to define a Universalist
    Christianity for today.  If the body of Christ is to include all of
    humanity, then it must include those who are non Christian.  Those who
    are non Christian may not want to be included in a Christian notion of
    the body of Christ.  A Universalist Christianity for today needs to
    take its place among the other great world religions and not be
    constantly warring with those religions.
1111.4must include allHBAHBA::HAAStime compressedMon Jul 17 1995 12:4911
Patricia,

I certainly agree that Christianity, as an example of a set of beliefs,
has to include and account for all things. Over in another note, we're
discussiong pain and suffering as things that have to folded into our
faith.

I would assert that any belief that starts with God as the creator of
everything has to include this interdependece.

TTom