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| 1079.1 | | GRIM::MESSENGER | Bob Messenger | Wed May 03 1995 17:19 | 4 |
| Unfortunately some fathers and mothers don't deserve to be honored. Oh
the whole, though, I think it's a good idea.
-- Bob
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| 1079.2 | | DECALP::GUTZWILLER | happiness- U want what U have | Thu May 04 1995 05:20 | 15 |
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> I've grown to appreciate this commandment more since becoming a parent than
> previously, although it always generally seemed like a pretty good idea to me.
i have made much the same experience. having children yourself you discover
your parents within yourself, don't you.
as for the commandment, i consider it most important. though i don't know how
it should apply if the parent(s) have failed the children. i always thought that
being at odds with ones parents implies being at odds with oneself.
andreas.
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| 1079.3 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Thu May 04 1995 12:47 | 7 |
| Parenting is probably never a flawless process. I've tried to let my
children know this up front. I'm not reluctant to apologize to my
children.
Shalom,
Richard
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| 1079.4 | does the command apply always, unconditionally? | DECALP::GUTZWILLER | happiness- U want what U have | Thu May 04 1995 13:15 | 16 |
| i quite agree. i think it is perfectly normal for one to bear some grudges
against the parents or one parent at some point in life.... mostly until
the person realises that the parents did what they thought best and that
noone is infallible.
but then most of us were blessed with good parents. what do you say to the
unlucky ones?
what do you say to the person who would have nothing to do with his or her
parent? the person who thinks that cutting the relationship to the parent
is better than mending it? is honouring parents always the right thing to do?
for instance even if the parents or one parent has behaved dishonourably (as
in the case of child abuse).
andreas.
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| 1079.5 | ps. | DECALP::GUTZWILLER | happiness- U want what U have | Thu May 04 1995 14:17 | 16 |
| maybe i should add that i ask questions here from a philosophical point of
view. for instance, can most (or all) of the ten commandments be looked at
as 'principles for a good life'? the question which arises in this context
is, does a principle apply in all cases? eg. should hitler's son honour his
father? or should a sexually abused daughter honour her father? (it seems
almost cruel to expect the children to honour their parents in these cases.)
the other way of looking at it is, doesn't a principle only proof it's worth
in extreme cases? must it not be able to withstand extremes? for instance,
what do you make of people who normally are against capital punishment, and
who now ask that the bombers of oklahoma city be given the death penalty?
or what do you make of people who are against killing other people but who
see nothing wrong with going to war as soldiers?
andreas.
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| 1079.6 | For Internal Use | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Thu May 04 1995 15:26 | 19 |
| Note 1079.4
> -< does the command apply always, unconditionally? >-
The truth of the matter is that all 10 were intended for the covenant
community. None were originally seen as universal.
>but then most of us were blessed with good parents. what do you say to the
>unlucky ones?
A tough one. I would not condemn the bitterness. I would not encourage
sustaining such bitterness either.
Another consideration. Certainly an adult who was abused as a child has
the extra burden of attempting to break the cycle.
Shalom,
Richard
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