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904.1 | | NITTY::DIERCKS | Not every celebration is a party! | Tue Apr 19 1994 14:04 | 8 |
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FWIW, I took several of my petitions on Sunday from a book by Chris
Glaser called "Coming Out To God: A Book of Prayers for Gay Men and
Lesbians and their Friends and Family". (I'm participating in a
weekend retreat where he will be the key-note speaker this weekend.)
Greg
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904.2 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Tue Apr 19 1994 14:07 | 7 |
| I attended a retreat called Journey to Genesis last weekend. It was
suggested that we view God as our lover. One of the exercises was to
write a love letter to God.
Interesting exercise, as was the resistance.
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904.3 | �como esta usted? | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Tue Apr 19 1994 14:49 | 19 |
| re: Note 904.0 by Greg "Not every celebration is a party!"
As I recall, English used to have formal and informal pronouns. Like in
Spanish (dredging back some 20+ years of memory )where 'tu' and 'usted' both
mean "you" informally and formally. So in English 'thou' and 'thee' and
'thine' were the �informal� pronouns. I'm not sure when they faded into
disuse.
Sort of like Jesus calling "Abba, father" was the informal means of address.
Just a tidbit.
To stay on topic, I try to lead a life of prayer (though sometimes
unsuccessfully) talking with God. I also meditate, which is more of a
listening posture.
Peace,
Jim
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904.4 | 8-) (but really serious) | NITTY::DIERCKS | Not every celebration is a party! | Tue Apr 19 1994 15:06 | 18 |
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>>I attended a retreat called Journey to Genesis last weekend. It was
>>suggested that we view God as our lover. One of the exercises was to
>>write a love letter to God.
I like that, I like it very much.
(As long as we're baring out souls (pun intended)): My therapist and I
spent a lot of time last Saturday talking about prayer and its role in
our lives. I told him that I really do have difficulty praying because
I bring so much negative baggage from my early church experiences with
me into my prayer time. Our conversation, to put in mildly, surprised
me. He know, from previous conversations, that I'm a naturalist. He
suggested that I pray when I'm naked and most vulnerable. I tried it
several times over the weekend and can't put into words the feeling --
truly amazing.
Greg -- nude pray-er
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904.5 | | CVG::THOMPSON | An AlphaGeneration Noter | Tue Apr 19 1994 15:36 | 7 |
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> Interesting exercise, as was the resistance.
I'm hard pressed to understand how this was a useful and positive
exercise. Can you tell us more about it.
Alfred
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904.6 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Tue Apr 19 1994 16:17 | 16 |
| The focus was on our relationship with God.
We discussed the concept of God as lover. How would we relate to God
as our lover. It is Biblical you know. To love God with all one's
heart, soul, and mind. Doesn't that qualify as God as lover. The
discussion was around how in our relationships with those we love we
learn more about loving by giving love than receiving love. We
discussed alternatives to prayer of asking for whatever we were asking
for.
We went off by ourselves for 1/2 hour and wrote our letters.
We got back together and discussed what the process was like for us,
the results, the resistance etc.
Patricia
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904.7 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Tue Apr 19 1994 16:20 | 5 |
| By the way, it was as a result of this exercise that I found the Wisdom
of Solomon material. God is potrayed as Bride and lover their. In the
prophets also, God is potrayed as Groom and Israel as Bride.
Patricia
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904.8 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue Apr 19 1994 18:22 | 5 |
| re .7
The Resurrection is the Wedding Feast of the Lamb, at which the Church (we)
are the Bride of Christ.
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904.9 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Most Dangerous Child | Tue Apr 19 1994 22:34 | 6 |
| In public prayer I've referred to God as "the lover of our very souls,
closer to us than our very breath."
Shalom,
Richard
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904.10 | | NITTY::DIERCKS | Not every celebration is a party! | Wed Apr 20 1994 16:25 | 16 |
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Just remembered another neat thing that happened on Sunday (though it's
not related to the topic -- it's my base note and I can do what I
want!!!! 8-) ) I was standing in the back of the church chatting
with folks after the service when a woman walked up to me that I
vaguely remembered seeing before but didn't really know. She was
holding a baby boy about 6 months old. My friend Jo was standing next
to me. This woman says, "Can he be trusted?". Jo says, "Sure." This
woman says to me "I have to go to the bathroom -- hold my baby, he
likes to pull beards." and took off. He was such a sweet boy - though
he did like to pull beards. I love the babies! Maybe I should
volunteer for nursery duty. (I wonder if you can volunteer for nursery
duty and get by without changing diapers?)
Greg
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904.11 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Wed Apr 20 1994 16:32 | 5 |
| Greg,
Not a chance. No hazzard pay either.
Patricia
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904.12 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Most Dangerous Child | Wed Apr 20 1994 16:38 | 5 |
| .10 The best part is you don't have to take 'em home. No wonder
folks enjoy grandparenting more than parenting! ;-}
Richard
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904.13 | Celtic spirituality | ADISSW::HAECK | Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! | Fri May 03 1996 10:44 | 5 |
| In June I will be going on a silent weekend retreat with the topic of
Celtic spirituality. I am going into it with the perception that
Celtic spirituality is a sort of constant praying. I am hoping to gain
some guidance in maintaining the constant awareness that God is always
with me.
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904.14 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | Madison...5'2'' 95 lbs. | Fri May 03 1996 11:11 | 8 |
| Debbie:
Could you expound a little more on Celtic Spirituality. Curious minds
and all!
Thanks,
-Jack
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904.15 | | ADISSW::HAECK | Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! | Fri May 03 1996 17:54 | 6 |
| > Could you expound a little more on Celtic Spirituality. Curious
> minds and all!
Not until after my retreat! :-)
And you may have to remind me.
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