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849.1 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Wed Feb 09 1994 01:44 | 5 |
| Hmmm... you get a real kick out of this don't you?
Read the entire text and put this verse in its proper context and its
basically validating that appearances are vain... its the inward person
God looks at.
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849.2 | | JUPITR::HILDEBRANT | I'm the NRA | Wed Feb 09 1994 09:19 | 7 |
| RE: .1
Nancy,
Your explaination sounds correct. No problem at all. But, again,
scripture needs to be studied and interpreted...always.
Marc H.
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849.3 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Wed Feb 09 1994 12:33 | 5 |
| Does that mean that makeup, manicures, breast implants, hair coloring,
hair implants, etc, etc, are all evil. Each keeps us from focusing on
what is really important.
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849.4 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Wed Feb 09 1994 13:13 | 19 |
| .3
Patricia, you may not like my answer, but YES, they are evil. When
someone has been given their body in which to live by our God, then we
should accept that body as is.
The only exception to that rule [which is questionable imho as well] is
for disfigurement. I believe that changing something that already
exists in perfect working order and fixing something that exists in not
so good working order are two different things.
I find it very disturbing that men change themselves into women and
women change themselves into men... because of some mental element
that says I'm trapped in a body that isn't me.
It is much better to address the emotional element then to cosmetically
cover up the real issues.
Nancy
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849.5 | Before we jump to the fringe | HURON::MYERS | | Wed Feb 09 1994 13:57 | 5 |
| > I find it very disturbing that men change themselves into women and
> women change themselves into men... because of some mental element
> that says I'm trapped in a body that isn't me.
Yeah, but... the question was is it evil to wear earrings and lipstick.
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849.6 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Honorary Lesbian | Wed Feb 09 1994 14:41 | 6 |
| Yeah, I know the thrust of what .0 is getting at. I also know that
it squares with the *Book*, and thus, according to some anyway, making
everyone's personal perspectives moot.
Richard
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849.7 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Wed Feb 09 1994 16:24 | 4 |
| .5 take a look at .3, other things were brought up, I addressed those
other things.
Nancy
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849.8 | | APACHE::MYERS | | Thu Feb 10 1994 10:01 | 11 |
| re Note 849.7 by JULIET::MORALES_NA
> .5 take a look at .3, other things were brought up, I addressed those
> other things.
You addressed those other things, and them some, without addressing the
fundamental question of the base note. Unless in your broad statement
of "... YES, they are evil" you were referring to jewelry, braided
(broidered) hair, makeup, and pretty clothes.
Eric
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849.9 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Thu Feb 10 1994 10:39 | 10 |
| How about pierced ears?
Are pierced ears an abomination?
A mutilation of the body for the sake of decoration.
By the way, I have pierced ears?
Patricia
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849.10 | my cut on .0 | CVG::THOMPSON | Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest? | Thu Feb 10 1994 11:18 | 11 |
| I think the verses in .0 and the others around it are a plea to
avoid ostentatiousness. I think that perhaps modest is a relative
term but one that is useful none the less. I think the references
to gold and pearls and braided hair refer to things that can all too
easily be over done. The over riding thread of I Timothy 2 seems to
me that deeds are more important then physical appearance. If we
seek to be seen as "good" by what we wear then we are missing the
mark. Rather there are other things that we should set out that others
should notice.
Alfred
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849.11 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Thu Feb 10 1994 13:28 | 18 |
| Alfred, that is exactly what I meant. I don't want to focus on the
semantics of pierced ears [tho' I don't have them] and wot not.
However,
I do not know one person who had breast implant that did it for God...
Or
A person who had a facelift for God...
Most of the time these kinds of surgeries are cosmetic to meet one of
the rudimental desires in our lives, sex, money, greed.. [as entered
into another note]...
Nancy
Nancy
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849.12 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | | Thu Feb 10 1994 14:43 | 3 |
| I think the base note means, get your priorities straight!
-Jack
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