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830.1 | | PACKED::COLLIS::JACKSON | DCU fees? NO!!! | Fri Jan 21 1994 16:30 | 17 |
| Since the statement is obviously wrong, I assume you are
asking about the point that he was attempting to make.
Regarding the point, I think that if you know only
religions that are essentially wrong, then you might as
well not know any religions at all. Conversely, if you
God as He has revealed Himself, then no amount of
knowledge from other religions will prove useful.
From a human perspective, it's good to be knowledgable
about a lot of things; however wisdom is *much*more
important (knowing what to do with the knowledge). I
see the statement in the base note as a statement about
knowledge rather than about wisdom and it suffers as a
result.
Collis
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830.2 | | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Fri Jan 21 1994 17:15 | 17 |
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The statement is obviously right, of course [using the form of reply
in .1.]
[Statement reworded now...] I feel the statement is correct. It was
learning and experiencing other religions that I saw that God is in all
of them, revealing to all only in different ways, and that there is no
'One True Religion' where the other religions are false.
As Marco Polo said, "The more I learned about other religions, the more
I understood and appreciated my own."
I've read parts of Goldman's book. It's interesting. Can't really
comment more on it though, as it's been a while. Richard, I believe
the title is "The (or My) Search for God at Harvard".
Cindy
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830.3 | | COMET::DYBEN | | Fri Jan 21 1994 17:18 | 6 |
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I disagree. There is only one true religion. All others are false and
must be exposed as such...
David
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830.4 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Fri Jan 21 1994 18:04 | 5 |
| I agree with the statement. Without knowing more than one religion we
cannot know what is unique to our own religion and what is common to
all religions.
Patricia
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830.5 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Fri Jan 21 1994 18:56 | 15 |
| .2 and .4
.2 I agree with you in that you can see God in all religions. There
is a very good reason for that. I believe that God has instilled
within all of us the innate desire to know Him. I also believe that
God has revealed himself to those that sincerely seek him. However, I
believe that not always the two go hand-in-hand.
I once said that the way of Hinduism walks very parallel to the way of
Christianity [of the Bible], but they are very obviously parallel and
not on the same path. One path leads to enlightenment, the other path
leads to the Light [Jesus].
Nancy
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830.6 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Fri Jan 21 1994 20:26 | 5 |
| Goldman said during his talk that when someone says to him, "Jesus
loves you," he responds that he believes Jesus loves him as a Jew.
Richard
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830.7 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Fri Jan 21 1994 21:21 | 3 |
| -1
Sorry, don't understand the hidden message.
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830.9 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Fri Jan 21 1994 21:31 | 14 |
| I believe Goldman's statement is true.
Those who keep other faiths at arm's length are probably insecure in their
own.
I have found that acquiring knowledge and experience of a variety of
faith expressions, within Christianity and outside Christianity, has been
nothing but enriching.
Learning about other faiths has served to strengthen my own.
Peace,
Richard
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830.8 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Fri Jan 21 1994 21:32 | 6 |
| .7 I believe Goldman's point was that one can share one's faith
without feeling compelled to convert the listener to something
other than what he or she already is.
Richard
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830.10 | Jesus loves the goats, too, not just the sheep | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Fri Jan 21 1994 21:37 | 8 |
| The hidden message is that Jesus (God) pours out his love even on those
who are not Christians, such as those who follow Judaism faithfully.
I'm sure he pours out his love on everyone.
Even those whom he will not be raising on the last day.
/john
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830.11 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Fri Jan 21 1994 21:40 | 6 |
| As far as one who loves to learn about other faiths... yer lookin' at
her.. I can't say I've been very cultured on the eastern religions, but
am getting there... However, I have become rather intimate in knowledge
of other US faiths that are not Christian. :-)
Nancy
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830.12 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Fri Jan 21 1994 22:11 | 5 |
| .8
If .8's interpretation is correct, then I must disagree... of course
unless one has the wrong faith to begin with. :-)
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830.13 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Sat Jan 22 1994 13:05 | 10 |
| I don't feel compelled to convert anyone while visiting
a synagogue. While visiting a fundamentalist church, I felt
no compulsion to convince the faithful of their erroneous
thinking.
In fact, I would consider myself a rude guest to make such
an attempt.
Richard
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830.14 | | COMET::DYBEN | | Sat Jan 22 1994 14:18 | 8 |
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> While visiting a fundamentalist church, I felt no compulsion to
> convince the faithful of their erroneuos thinking
Now if we could just get you to do that here :-)
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830.15 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Sat Jan 22 1994 20:34 | 8 |
| .13
What is erroneous in your opinion about fundamentalism... but please
define fundamentalism prior to answering the question.
I'm very interested in your answer.
Nancy
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830.16 | See Note 87.130 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Sat Jan 22 1994 21:10 | 9 |
| .15
I'm gonna pass on that question for the time being, Nancy. I think
I would rather be perceived as "back-peddling."
I will address fundamentalism in another note, however.
Richard
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830.17 | | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Sun Jan 23 1994 01:06 | 8 |
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.14
Dave,
Methinks you have it backwards.
Cindy
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830.18 | | COMET::DYBEN | | Sun Jan 23 1994 08:48 | 10 |
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> methinks you have it backwards
No doubt anyone who does not swim in the grey area of new agedom is
thought of this way.....
David
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830.19 | huh? | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Sun Jan 23 1994 23:38 | 1 |
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830.20 | | COMET::DYBEN | | Mon Jan 24 1994 09:02 | 8 |
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> huh?
Huh Huh ?
David :-)
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830.21 | huhhuhhuhhuh!!! | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Mon Jan 24 1994 11:57 | 5 |
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Ok, I see the smiley face. Had to get out my magnifying glass to do it
though.
Cindy
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830.22 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | | Mon Jan 24 1994 13:22 | 6 |
| Keep in mind that we are commissioned by Christ to preach the gospel to
the outermost ends of the earth. What greater love can you show
somebody than to tell them how to have eternal life? I agree that
timing is an important issue of course.
-Jack
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