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| 728.1 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Mon Sep 27 1993 16:17 | 10 |
| Two songs come immediately to mind, Ron:
"Seek Ye First [the Kingdom of God]"
"Here I Am, Lord"
Do you know these?
Richard
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| 728.2 | words for first? | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Mon Sep 27 1993 17:12 | 13 |
| Richard,
How does the first song go (first few sentences)? Is this a
well-knbown hymn? If so, I may have it in the churches' hymnals.
Isn't the second song: "Here am I, Lord; Here am I; send me ..."?
What aboout some classical, ie. Mozart?
Shalom,
Ron
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| 728.3 | Veni, Creator Spiritus | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Mon Sep 27 1993 17:28 | 27 |
| Come, Holy Ghost, our souls inspire,
And lighten with celestial fire.
Thou the anointing Spirit art,
Who dost thy sevenfold gifts impart.
Thy blessed unction from above,
Is comfort, life, and fire of love.
Enable with perpetual light
The dulness of our blinded sight.
Anoint and cheer our soiled face
With the abundance of thy grace.
Keep far our foes, give peace at home;
Where thou art guide, no ill can come.
Teach us to know the Father, Son,
And thee, of both, to be but One;
That through the ages all along,
This may be our endless song:
Praise to thy eternal merit,
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
You would probably prefer the traditional plainsong setting; the first movement
of Mahler's 8th Symphony might be a bit much (and I doubt you want to hire the
musicians and double chorus required to perform it).
/john
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| 728.4 | any ptr to inclusive lang variant? | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Mon Sep 27 1993 18:30 | 19 |
| John,
Is there an inclusive language variant or a ptr to one that you may
have?
I like Mahler's Eighth very much - and I have a daughter who works for
the BSO. Hmmm, I wonder ...
I also have a friend who is a high school band/orchestra teacher (who
used to have a crush on the daughter above). He and I stayed good
friends, my daughter has other ideas (and another friend). Maybe we
could have a high school event or an orchestral group from the school.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Shalom,
Ron
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| 728.5 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Mon Sep 27 1993 18:35 | 6 |
| I don't see any non-inclusive language in the text I posted.
I will not be a party to any denial of "The Father, the Son, and the Holy
Spirit" as being the revealed way to refer to God in Unity and Trinity.
/john
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| 728.6 | clarification | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Mon Sep 27 1993 18:47 | 13 |
| John,
I'm not looking for you to be part of "denying". I see Creator, Christ
and Holy Spirit very much including Father, Son & Holy Ghost. I'm also
looking for more modern language rather than thee/thou/thy stuff to
something that we use in todays speech.
Thanks for your comments!
Shalom,
Ron
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| 728.7 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Mon Sep 27 1993 19:23 | 13 |
| Ron .2
"Here I Am, Lord"
Chorus (from memory)
Here I am, Lord.
I have heard you calling in the night.
I will follow, if you lead me
da-da-da, I can't remember the words....
Duh,
Richard
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| 728.8 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Mon Sep 27 1993 19:57 | 9 |
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Re .2
Seek ye first the kingdom of God
and His righteousness
and all these things will be added unto you
allelelujah.
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| 728.9 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Mon Sep 27 1993 20:01 | 7 |
| The problem with saying "Creator" rather than "Father" is that it
1. depersonalizes God
2. denies the role of the Word and Spirit in Creation
3. rejects Christ's specific direction to pray to the Father.
/john
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| 728.10 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Mon Sep 27 1993 23:44 | 8 |
| Alas. Another derailment.
The operative word in first phrase of the Lord's prayer is "Our". How
terribly inclusive that word is. How terribly PC of Jesus to have
suggested so freely using it.
Richard
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| 728.11 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Mon Sep 27 1993 23:46 | 9 |
| re: .8
That's right! Except I think the last line goes:
"Allelu, Allelu-jah!"
Peace,
Richard
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| 728.12 | | NITTY::DIERCKS | We will have Peace! We must!!!! | Tue Sep 28 1993 10:42 | 6 |
|
"The Lord is my Light" (for baritone solo/piano) by Francis Allitsen is
a goody!!!!
GJD
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| 728.13 | words to .12? | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Tue Sep 28 1993 10:44 | 8 |
| re .12
Do you know some of the words?
Shaom,
Ron
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| 728.14 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Tue Sep 28 1993 10:54 | 9 |
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How about the hymn, "Bring Them in?"
Jim
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| 728.15 | words to .-1? | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Tue Sep 28 1993 11:00 | 8 |
| re: "Bring them in":
their sheaves???
Ron
ps: what are the words?
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| 728.16 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Tue Sep 28 1993 11:03 | 18 |
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Unfortunately I don't remember the words, but the chorus is:
Bring them in
bring them in
bring them in from the fields of sin
bring them in
bring them in
bring the wandering ones to Jesus..
Jim
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| 728.17 | how about a litle more celebrative | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Tue Sep 28 1993 11:52 | 13 |
| "bring them in from the fields of sin"???
Jim,
Shucks but I just cannot emphasize "sin" during an ordination. How
about a more celebrative song or joyous song of being together, of
living together, of meting the challenge to make a difference in the
world?
Shalom,
Ron
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| 728.18 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Tue Sep 28 1993 13:34 | 9 |
|
I was thinking more of the "bring them in", as fulfilling the Great
Commission, which I kinda thought might be one of the focuses of pastoring.
Jim
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| 728.19 | | NITTY::DIERCKS | We will have Peace! We must!!!! | Wed Sep 29 1993 17:27 | 14 |
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The Lord is my Light,
My light and my salvation.
Whom then shall I fear.
The Lord is the strength of my life.
Of whom then shall I be afraid.
Though an host of men were laid against me,
yet shall not my heart be afraid.
etc. (I'm brain dead at the moment and am not remembering the rest.)
GJD
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| 728.20 | "Happiness" - song from the Weston Priory | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Fri Oct 01 1993 15:39 | 25 |
| From the Monks of the Weston (VT) Priory:
"Happiness"
Happiness is where you are and what you want to be. If you look you're
sure to find the rainbow of your dreams. Tomorrow's fuller than a
thousand yesterdays with the vision of a new day in your heart.
If the clouds should darken you may turn your hopes on high. Sorrow
isn't meant to shake you from your way of life. Just keep on lookin'
for the answer to it all with the vision of a new day in your heart.
Bitter sands may cross the desert of your ev'ry day. Your mind can
blow away the fears that always will be there. If you can look beyond
the neon and the glass you will find a new day in your heart.
Happy those who know the word and make it their own. Truth and
sincerity will be their only home. Look to the star and find a reason
to believe with the vision of a new day in your heart.
Happiness is where you are and what you want to be. If you look you're
sure to find the rainbow of your dreams. Tomorrow's fuller than a
thousand yesterdays with the vision of a new day in your heart, with a
vision of a new day in your heart.
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| 728.21 | Yahweh - song from Monks of Weston Priory | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Fri Oct 01 1993 15:48 | 36 |
| From the songsof the Monks of the Weston (VT) Priory:
"Yahweh"
refrain:
Yahweh is the God of my salvation: I trust in him and have no fear. I
sing of the joy which his love gives to me, and I draw deeply from the
springs of his great kindness.
Verses:
Open our eyes to the wonder of this moment the beginning of another
day.
[then refrain again]
Be with us, Lord, as we break through with each other to find the truth
and beauty of each friend.
[then refrain]
When ev'ning comes and our day of toil is over give us rest, O Lord, in
the joy of many friends.
[then refrain]
Take us beyond the vision of this day to the deep and wide ways of your
infinite love and life.
[final refrain ending as below]
Yahweh is the God of my salvation: I trust in him and have no fear. I
sing of the joy which his loves gives to me, and I draw deeply from the
springs of his great kindness.
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| 728.22 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Fri Oct 01 1993 17:19 | 5 |
| Good choices, Ron! I've always liked the music I've heard from
the Weston Priory Monks.
Peace,
Richard
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| 728.23 | speakin' of music | DLO15::FRANCEY | | Fri Oct 01 1993 17:34 | 8 |
| Three weeks; one day; 22 hrs and 25 minutes;
awwwhh; but who's countin'?
Shalom,
RR & RD
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| 728.24 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Sat Oct 02 1993 14:36 | 7 |
| Reverends Ron & Dot,
This is a fine moment for all of us who've come to know you and Dot,
Ron. How I wish I could attend your ordination ceremony!
Grace and peace,
Richard
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