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| 711.1 | | JUPITR::HILDEBRANT | I'm the NRA | Wed Jun 23 1993 14:39 | 14 |
| I have had some type of a job since I was 12. At the age of 15, I
worked as an electrical technican and a gardener at a library. I have
always worked......
I feel a low self-worth with the current jobs I have had. I'm
underemployed by quite a bit.
I don't know why its so, but I *need* to feel that I do something every
day....after "work" here at DEC, I usually go home and work on my
house, hobbies, read, just have to do something all the time.
Good note......raises some very interesting questions.....
Marc H.
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| 711.2 | To dream the impossible dream... | CSC32::KINSELLA | Boycott Hell!!!!!! | Wed Jun 23 1993 16:04 | 24 |
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Ah work...the subject everyone loves to complain about. I think it's
highly over-rated the way it's done in our society. I feel constantly
drained, like I never quite get rested. I was driving down Union Blvd.
a week ago and I noticed my speed (which was 50 in a 40). Now, I don't
usually speed but I got caught up with everyone else. When I realized
it, I slowed down and started to wonder "Where are they all going to?
What are they rushing for?" I did this same thing in my job years
ago. I was caught up with everyone scrambling for a better position,
then I finally stopped and reassessed "Why am I doing this?" It
certainly wasn't because I liked the work. I've often felt I'm in
the wrong career, but it's so hard to change with all the benefits
being tied to where you work. As a single person it's hard for me
to just quit especially since I need health benefits because I'm an
asthmatic.
I believe that we should back off on the number of hours we work.
Shorter work weeks, more vacations. We're all going at breakneck
speed not thinking of the consequences most times. We need more
time for long walks, playing with family and friends, travelling,
and going to school (of course the school's would need to be
changed to provide low cost classes). ;^)
Jill
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| 711.3 | | CRONIC::SCHULER | Greg - Hudson, MA | Wed Jun 23 1993 16:13 | 13 |
| >I believe that we should back off on the number of hours we work.
>Shorter work weeks, more vacations. We're all going at breakneck
>speed not thinking of the consequences most times. We need more
>time for long walks, playing with family and friends, travelling,
>and going to school (of course the school's would need to be
>changed to provide low cost classes). ;^)
Amen to that!
:-)
/Greg
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| 711.4 | More Work!!! | WELLER::FANNIN | | Wed Jun 23 1993 20:58 | 4 |
| No way! We're all much too lazy!!! Work! Work! Work! Bigger houses,
better cars, perfect lawns, clothing to die for...
{she exits stage left, chased by a bear}
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| 711.5 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Thu Jun 24 1993 19:53 | 6 |
| Luke 12:27 Consider the lilies how they grow: they �toil� not, they
spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory
was not arrayed like one of these.
Richard
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| 711.6 | Work.. It can be enjoyable | SALEM::RUSSO | | Fri Jun 25 1993 13:09 | 23 |
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RE: .0
Richard,
You mention work, or lack of it, and it's affect on people. It certainly
does affect people, not only those in Western cultures but earth wide.
For those interested; the June 22, 1993 (timely isn't it) issue of the AWAKE
magazine has a few articles dealing with work; "Working Hard - What are the
Consequences?", Working Hard - Hazardous to your Health?" "Working Hard - When
it is a Virtue". It made many fine points and brought out some statistics I
found interesting. I'll share a one that surpirsed me; "nearly one American in
eight reported working 60 hours or more a week" according to the US Bureau of
Labor Statistics. Japanese office workers are discussed as regards their fears
from overwork. Burnout, depression and family life impacts are discussed amoung
other things. Naturally, practicle council from God's Word is given to help
reason on God's view of work and how we can apply ourselves to his wishes.
i.e. Ecc 3:13, Prov.12:24 and others.
The Awake is published in 67 languages with an average printing of 13,240,000
so it's available to all. If you would like a copy contact you local Kingdom
Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses or.. ask for one next time you get that knock on
you door 8-)
regards, robin
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| 711.7 | Go to work, Adam!! | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Fri Jun 25 1993 19:12 | 21 |
| 3:16-19 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy
sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth
children; and thy �desire� [shall be] to thy �husband,� and he
shall rule over thee.
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto
the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I
commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: �cursed� [is]
the �ground� for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all
the days of thy life;
Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee;
and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
In the �sweat� of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou
return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust
thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.
Lemme see. Looks like God's punishment here for the woman is to bear
children and to put up with the tyranny of the man, and for the man, to do
tedious, often unrewarding labor.
Richard
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| 711.8 | Let's get back on track... | CFSCTC::HUSTON | Steve Huston | Mon Jun 28 1993 11:27 | 49 |
| >Lemme see. Looks like God's punishment here for the woman is to bear
>children and to put up with the tyranny of the man, and for the man, to do
>tedious, often unrewarding labor.
Since I saw no smiley face on this, I'll take it at face value and respond, since
it's a big twist on the meaning of this part of scripture.
(If I had a nickle for every time I saw a twist on this... ;-)
First, God's main punishment in all this was death to Adam and Eve, and to all humans
after them, except those who accept Christ's payment of the penalty for them.
God's punishment here is not for the woman to bear children, or to put up with the
tyranny of man (directly...).
Her punishment is (let me re-quote from NIV...)
"I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give
birth to children." Gen 3:16a
The punishment is increased pain... bearing children is a normal part of the woman's
design from the beginning. The pain is definitely physical (well, from what I've
heard anyway...). Also, a pastor I had suggested that the pain is also emotional,
having to see that she has brought forth a child that continues in the sin nature
that she and Adam started.
"Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." Gen 3:16b
The original words for 'desire' imply that she will want to dominate the man, as
well as the usual sexual desire. Her desire to dominate will conflict with the
man's role now of ruling over her. The "tyranny of the man" is more of his abusing
his role as leader. Tyranny is a result of the man's sin nature, not a direct
punishment to the woman.
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Now, back to the 'work' thread...
As for the man, he was punished with having to work hard for food. He had everything
from God previously, now after the fall, he's given that up and has to work hard.
The ground is cursed. Not the work. Work is still fulfilling. It can get tedious,
especially when affected by deranged priorities. But God gives each person skills
and opportunities to exercise them. When kept in line with what he intended, work
is very fulfilling. It's exciting to see what skills God has given, and what can be
done with them.
-Steve
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| 711.9 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Mon Jun 28 1993 12:17 | 5 |
| I don't always use smiley faces. I like to give readers room for
independant thinking. Thanks for your interpretion of the punishments.
Richard
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| 711.10 | | JUPITR::HILDEBRANT | I'm the NRA | Mon Jun 28 1993 12:43 | 5 |
| RE: .8
My vt420 chops up your note....check the length of the lines.
Marc H.
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| 711.11 | From a bookmark distributed by De Anza College | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Tue Jul 27 1993 16:09 | 120 |
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How To Stay Stressed
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Although the De Anza Health Office long been an advocate of stress
management, stress, tension, and burnout are still common complaints of
students, faculty, and staff alike. On account of this, we have come to
the following conclusion: YOU ALL WANT TO STAY STRESSED! The following
provides you with a few reasons why.
STRESS HELPS YOU SEEM IMPORTANT. Anyone as stressed as you must be
working very hard and, therefore,
is probably doing something very
crucial.
IT HELPS YOU TO MAINTAIN PERSONAL Anyone as busy as you are certainly
DISTANCE AND AVOID INTIMACY. can't be expected to form emotional
attachments to anyone. And let's
face it, you're not much fun to be
around anyway.
IT HELPS YOU AVOID RESPONSIBILITIES. Obviously you're too stressed to be
given any more work. This gets you
off the hook for all the mundane
chores; let someone else take care
of them.
IT GIVES YOU A CHEMICAL RUSH. Stress might be considered a cheap
thrill, and you can give yourself a
"hit" anytime you choose. But be
careful, you might get addicted to
your own adrenaline.
IT HELPS YOU AVOID SUCCESS. Why risk being "successful" when by
simply staying stressed you can
avoid all of that? Stress can keep
your performance level low enough
that success won't ever be a threat.
STRESS ALSO LETS YOU KEEP YOUR The authoritarian style of "Just do
AUTHORITARIAN MANAGEMENT STYLE. what I say!" is generally permissi-
ble under crisis conditions. If
you maintain a permanently stressed
crisis atmosphere, you can justify
an authoritarian style all the time.
Are you worried now about how to stay stressed? You'll have no trouble
if you practice the following clinically proven methods:
NEVER EXERCISE. Exercise wastes a lot of time that
could be spent worrying.
EAT ANYTHING YOU WANT. Hey, if cigarette smoke can't
cleanse your system, a balanced
diet isn't likely to.
GAIN WEIGHT. Work hard at staying at least 25
pounds over your recommended
weight.
TAKE PLENTY OF STIMULANTS. The old standards of caffeine,
nicotine, sugar, and cola will
continue to do the job just fine.
AVOID "WOO-WOO" PRACTICES. Ignore the evidence suggesting
that meditation, yoga, deep
breathing, and/or mental imaging
help to reduce stress. The
Protestant work ethic is good for
everyone, Protestant or not.
GET RID OF YOUR SOCIAL Let the few friends who are
SUPPORT SYSTEM. willing to tolerate you know that
concern yourself with friendships
only if you have time, and you
never have time. If a few people
persist in trying to be your
friend, avoid them.
PERSONALIZE ALL CRITICISM. Anyone who criticizes any aspect
of your work, family, dog, house,
or car is mounting a personal
attack. Don't take time to
listen, be offended, then return
the attack!
THROW OUT YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR. Staying stressed is no laughing
matter, and it shouldn't be
treated as one.
MALES AND FEMALES ALIKE - BE MACHO. Never ever ask for help, and if
you want it done right, do it
yourself!
BECOME A WORKAHOLIC. Put work before everything else,
and be sure to take work home
evenings and weekends. Keep
reminding yourself that vacations
are for sissies.
DISCARD GOOD TIME MANAGEMENT SKILLS. Schedule in more activities every
day than you can possibly get done
and then worry about it all
whenever you get a chance.
PROCRASTINATE. Putting things off to the last
second always produces a marvelous
amount of stress.
WORRY ABOUT THINGS YOU CAN'T Worry about the stock market,
CONTROL. earthquakes, the approching Ice
Age, you know, all the big issues.
BECOME NOT ONLY A PERFECTIONIST BUT ...and either beat yourself up, or
SET IMPOSSIBLY HIGH STANDARDS... feel guilty, depressed, discour-
aged, and/or inadequate when you
don't meet them."
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| 711.12 | oh yeah | TNPUBS::STEINHART | Back in the high life again | Wed Jul 28 1993 11:25 | 9 |
| RE: .11
Very funny. But how did they get that whole thing on a bookmark? They
must have printed it in very small type. That's good. Straining to
read small type contributes to stress.
Laura
;-) in case that wasn't obvious
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| 711.13 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Wed Jul 28 1993 12:17 | 7 |
| I didn't see the original. I did wonder the same thing, though!
I was wondering if anybody would have any comment on the Protestant
work ethic.
Richard
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