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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

699.0. "Parenthood" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (We will rise!) Fri Jun 04 1993 13:43

	Luke 11:11-12  If a son shall ask �bread� of any of you that
  is a father, will he give him a �stone?� or if [he ask] a fish, will
  he for a fish give him a serpent?  Or if he shall ask an �egg,� will
  he offer him a �scorpion?�

	As a father myself, I know *I* would not do such things to my
son or stepdaughter, but I'm aware that there are fathers, and even a few
mothers, who would.  Not everyone has a positive image of what being a
parent is all about.  And these people are likely to repeat the tragic
cycle of abuse with their own children.

	Father's Day is coming up.  It's on June 20th this year.

Peace,
Richard

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699.1CSC32::J_CHRISTIEWe will rise!Fri Jun 18 1993 14:2330
	Nothing had prepared me for the experience of becoming a parent.
Cerebrally, I knew a child was on the way.  But while the child was encased
in the womb I was not taken in by the awesomeness of the situation.  I was
not aware of the profound ways in which this child would affect my life.

	I recall sitting at the cribside of my son a few weeks after his
birth and feeling totally inadequate for the job of raising this child.
How was I to help guide his mental, emotional, and spiritual growth?  How
was I to avoid the same mistakes my parents made with me?  How was I to
give this child a good father?

	We humans are blessed with reason.  We can figure out fairly quickly
the solutions to unfamiliar situations; the logistics of parenthood.

	I found out, for example, that when a couple has a baby, the laundry
does not increase by a third.  It triples.  The continuous drone of the
washing machine became a most familiar sound during all my waking hours
those first months.  The first time I witnessed PV (projectile vomiting),
I was astounded!  But fortunately, I was not in the line of fire.  I now
know that this is something nearly all small children are capable of.

	I still wrestle how well I am fulfilling the vocation of parenthood.
Every so often I ask Ricky how he thinks we're doing.  He once responded,
"Well, this is no TV family.  But compared to others around here [families
in our neighborhood], this isn't bad at all!"

8-)

Richard

699.2Did I also say she's cute?ELBERT::FANNINSun Jun 20 1993 02:557
    The arrival of my daughter changed my life so much I think my DNA was
    altered.  A Bodhisattva, fierce and sweet, she teaches me without
    ceasing.  She is *connected* and tuned to Christ within.

    I admire her and wonder that I should be so fortunate to be her Mother.

    Ruth
699.3JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAMon Jun 21 1993 09:066
    My wife and I have 5 children. I can't think of *anything* in my life
    that has been as difficult and as rewarding.
    
    I often use prayer just to keep me going......
    
    Marc H.
699.4CSC32::J_CHRISTIEWe will rise!Tue Jun 22 1993 13:308
    Marc,
    
    	Your .3 reminded me of the grandmother's brief but powerful
    oratory in the movie, "Parenthood," where she compares the experience
    to riding a roller coaster.
    
    Richard
    
699.5JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRATue Jun 22 1993 14:385
    Richard,
     Didn't see the movie, but a roller coaster ride is pretty close!
    I'm a roller coaster fan too.
    
    Marc H.
699.6CSC32::J_CHRISTIEChrist Power & Light Co.Tue Feb 13 1996 12:239
Anyone who doesn't believe there's a Hell has never been a parent to
an adolescent.

The trick, I hear, is knowing when and how to let up without letting go,
to step back without stepping out.

Shalom,
Richard

699.7CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Tue Feb 13 1996 12:3018

 I believe one of the keys to surviving raising adolescents is laying
 the right groundwork from the beginning (from a discipline and parent/
 child relationship standpoint).  And that is no guarantee of success.
 With my eldest (a son whom I adopted when he was 4) I failed miserably,
 though I believe much of his behavior was hard wired by the time I
 came on the scene.  I am beginning to see failures with my youngest,
 though they appear to be recoverable.  My middle son, Chris, has never
 been a problem for some reason.

 But, it is most certainly not an easy time, and despite our best efforts
 in raising them, when adolesence hits our best efforts occasionally go
 right out the window.



 Jim
699.8CSC32::J_CHRISTIEChrist Power & Light Co.Wed Feb 14 1996 16:016
    .7
    
    All too true.  Thanks, Jim.
    
    Richard
    
699.9CSC32::J_CHRISTIEChrist Power & Light Co.Fri Feb 16 1996 14:3417
It strikes me as a sad state of affairs when the best we can say of our
children is not in terms of what they are, but in terms of what they're
not.  An adolescent is considered a remarkable success if he or she is --

	Not into drugs or alcohol

	Not in a gang/involved in violent activity

	Not having sex/pregnant

	Not flunking in school

	Not a runaway

Shalom,
Richard

699.12CSC32::M_EVANScuddly as a cactusFri Feb 16 1996 23:1325
    richard,
    
    You have to remember what is good in your child, even when it is tough.  
    
    I remember the first set of teen years and am looking forward (well
    kind of) to the next two.
    
    Even if a child is "only" tall, short, freckled, not, blond brunette,
    redheaded, doing well in some subjects, loves children and animals, is
    helping you by hauling out the compost pot once a week (although it
    needs to be dumped nightly) and remembers his or her resposibility to
    his or her pets, we need to remember the good.
    
    I have also been through the teenage "purity" thing when everything I
    did was evil, or at least misguided.  I knew nothing for 5 years, and
    was told how I should comport myself on a holiday, because she was
    embarrassed that I celebrate mine my own way and her beau at the time
    had different ideas, was incensed by my ideas around wildlife
    conservation, and we probably whouldnt get into some of the differences
    in this file.  
    
    Suffice it to say, with exceptions around hair length, my oldest has
    decided I am almost intellegent again.  
    
    meg
699.13GUIDUK::MCCANTAHetero's not normal, just commonTue Feb 20 1996 12:5720
    Perspective.  It's all perspective.  A child who is..
    
	Not into drugs or alcohol
	   is mindful of the law and respectful of his/her body
    
	Not in a gang/involved in violent activity
	   is a member of a valued community (family, school, etc)
    
	Not having sex/pregnant
	   is responsible and thoughtful enough to forgo short term 
           satisfaction for long-term gains
    
	Not flunking in school
	   has a vision of the future and is preparing for it
    
	Not a runaway
    	   has good parents and respects them 
    
    I'l remember you and your son in your prayers.  Today is my daughter's
    14th birthday.  So far so good.