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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

529.0. "What separates humans from the animals is...." by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Keep on loving boldly!) Tue Oct 06 1992 19:23

    Answer in 100 lines or less.
    
    Peace,
    Richard
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529.1COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Oct 06 1992 19:521
Our relationship with God.
529.2CSC32::J_CHRISTIEKeep on loving boldly!Tue Oct 06 1992 20:5911
    I agree with .1.
    
    Let me add -
    	o  Our ability to laugh
    	o  Our ability to blush
    	o  Our sense of modesty
    	o  Our potential to destroy our environment
    
    Peace,
    Richard
    
529.3SOLVIT::MSMITHSo, what does it all mean?Wed Oct 07 1992 10:463
    Our ability to think in abstract terms.
    
    Mike
529.4handednessTFH::KIRKa simple songWed Oct 07 1992 11:2746
Interesting question.  My short answer is "less and less than we thought".

I agree with John in .1 here, I think.  Though I see a possible sense of
meaning wherein my relationship with God distinguishes me from John and his
relationship with God or Richard and his relationship.  In that sense a
relationship with God distinguishes every living entity from every other. I'd
also say that in some way all creatures have a relationship with God, as they
are all God's creations, and dependent on God for their existence, but
certainly humans (both male and female) are the only ones created explicitely
in God's own image. 

I do believe that some animals have a sense of right and wrong, through
observation of the antics of my cats and their reaction when I enter a room. 
(though that may have more to do with the cat's relationship with me than with
God .-) 

I'll add handedness to the list of differences.

Homo Sapiens are the only known creatures that are predisposed to prefer one
hand (the right) over the other.  (Among dogs, cats, and monkeys, for example,
about � are ambidexterous, and of the remaining �, there is an even split
between right and left hand preference (in tests of retrieving a ball from an 
opening large enough for a single hand, for example).) 

I'd question some of the other differences as well.

Elephants, for example, have an astonishing ability to destroy environments
(admittedly not as efficiently as humans).

Some primates have demonstrated a natural ability to play tricks on others of 
their kind and laugh at the result (a sense of humor); they can even blush, I 
believe.  Some also demonstrate a natural ability to make and use tools, (for 
example, breaking off reeds and fashioning them into straws used to suck out 
ants from ant hills) which I think would require the ability to think in
abstract terms. 

Several years ago, our ability to use language was seen to be a catagorical 
difference, until some primates were able to learn American Sign Language.

More recently grammar was believed to be a higher level difference, however 
there is evidence that some of the signing primates do possess a rudimentary
grammar. 

Peace,

Jim
529.5VIDSYS::PARENTit's only a shell, mislabledWed Oct 07 1992 11:4310
   I saw some interesting things, one however seems to be missed.

   Humans have a concept of self, we to the best of our knowledge are
   self aware.  I suspect but cannot prove that we are also the only
   animal that ponders about our ability to think and have such awareness.

   Peace,
   Allison

529.6JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAWed Oct 07 1992 12:093
    Humans are the only ones who kill for fun.
    
    Marc H.
529.7CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistWed Oct 07 1992 12:195
>    Humans are the only ones who kill for fun.

	Not true. Cats have been shown to kill for fun.

		Alfred
529.8DEMING::VALENZASupport Judeo-Buddhist values.Wed Oct 07 1992 12:199
    I wonder if that's true, Marc.  The way cats often play with and
    torture mice and birds that they capture, and then when finished
    killing their prey off they deposit it on the doorstep of the house,
    suggests to me that killing prey can be a sort of game for cats.
    
    I say this despite the fact that I love cats, and I would want no part
    of an afterlife without them.  :-)
    
    -- Mike
529.9DEMING::VALENZASupport Judeo-Buddhist values.Wed Oct 07 1992 12:191
    Whoops, notes collision.  :-)
529.10CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistWed Oct 07 1992 12:346
>    Whoops, notes collision.  :-)

	And we're on the same side. Perhaps we should save those
	notes. :-)

			Alfred
529.11JURAN::VALENZASupport Judeo-Buddhist values.Wed Oct 07 1992 12:361
    Perhaps we should.  :-)
529.12JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAWed Oct 07 1992 14:258
    Re: .8
    
    Well, not to change the topic to "Cats".....
    
    My cats do "play" with the prey, but, they do eat it or try to give it
    to me as a gift. There is more just a fun part to the kill.
    
    Marc H.
529.13ATSE::FLAHERTYRo ReinkeWed Oct 07 1992 14:4510
    Hmmm, I agree with Alfred and Mike on this one.  My cats seem to
    enjoy playing with the prey.  Some will eat it after, some will not.
    They've given up trying to make a gift to me of the 'kill'; my
    screaming must have turned them off.
    
    I've also seen cats display other human characterics such as kindness
    for each other.
    
    Ro
    
529.14Sadly ironic...CSC32::KINSELLAit's just a wheen o' blethersWed Oct 07 1992 15:359
    
    There are laws fully protecting the fertilized eggs of many animals
    throughout the entire gestation period, human eggs don't have that 
    protection.
    
    Perhaps this is part of the human's ability to destroy it's
    environment or perhaps that we enjoy killing for fun.  ;^(
    
    Jill
529.15CSC32::J_CHRISTIESet phazers on stunWed Oct 07 1992 15:486
    I wish I could say that humans were the only animals who go to
    war, but that's not true.
    
    Peace,
    Richard
    
529.16universalCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPacifist HellcatThu Nov 25 1993 16:125
    ...culture which finds expression through art.  This seems to be
    universal among humans and exclusive to humans.
    
    Peace,
    Richard
529.17One major thing...LEDS::LOPEZA River.. proceeding!Fri Dec 17 1993 22:146

	...the human spirit.

regards,
ace
529.18CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Mon Dec 18 1995 12:295
    The ability to establish contractual agreements.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
529.19CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPsalm 85.10Wed May 08 1996 14:315
    Humans can find meaning in that which otherwise might not have meaning.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard