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452.0. "Essay on Blacks, Whites, Humans" by TNPUBS::PAINTER (we've got to live together) Fri May 08 1992 15:16
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Copyright 1983 Richard L. Bradley (SWAM2::BRADLEY_RI)
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BLACKS, WHITES, HUMANS
by Richard L. Bradley
The time has to come eliminate the usage of the words "black" and
"white" as adjectives describing human beings. This seemingly innocent
usage of common terms dulls our perceptions and leads us to false
judgments. Black might be better, more up-to-date, than "Negro", but it
too is dehumanizing, as is the term, "white".
Start with dictionary definitions:
BLACK. 1a. of the color black. 1b. very dark in color. 1c. having a
very deep or low register. 1d. HEAVY, SERIOUS. 2a. having dark
skin, hair, and eyes: SWARTHY. 2b. of or relating to the Afro-American
people or culture, literature, theater, pride. 3. dressed in black.
4. dirty, soiled. 5a. characterized by the absence of light. 5b.
reflecting or transmitting little or no light. 5c. served without milk
or cream. 6a. thoroughly sinister or evil. 6b. indicative of
condemnation or discredit. 7. connected with or invoking the
supernatural and especially the devil. 8a. very sad, gloomy, or
calamitous. 8b. marked by the occurrence of disaster 9. characterized
by hostility or angry discontent. 10. (Chiefly British). 11. showing
a profit. 12a. of propaganda: conducted so as to appear to originate
within an enemy country and designed to weaken enemy morale-compare
WHITE. 12b. characterized by or connected with the use of black
propaganda. 13. characterized by grim, distorted, or grotesque satire.
WHITE. 1a. free from color. 1b. of the color of new snow or milk. 1c.
light or pallid in color. 1d. lustrous pale gray. 2a. being a member
of a group or race characterized by reduced pigmentation and usually
specifically distinguished from persons belonging to groups marked by
black, brown, yellow, or red skin coloration. 2b. of, relating to, or
consisting of white people. 3c. SLANG: marked by upright fairness. 3.
free from spot or blemish. 4. wearing or habited in white. 6a.
ultraconservative or reactionary in political outlook and action. 7.
not featuring open warfare but involving oblique methods.
These entries were taken from a 1979 edition of Webster's New Collegiate
Dictionary. The reader may note little that is surprising in those
definitions. Another entry in Websters' gives a even clearer indication of
sources of the social and interpersonal harm engendered by usage of the
words "black" and "white" as descriptions of Humans:
Bradley2
BLACK-AND-WHITE. 5a. sharply divided into good and evil groups, sides or
ideas. 5b. evaluating or viewing things as either all good or all bad.
The trouble lies not just in definition, but also in the connotative
meanings of "black" and "white". These shared meanings operate below the
level of consciousness, providing the motivating force for our behavior.
We, then, invent socially acceptable "reasons" for our actions so that we
can manage our affairs with the least friction. This rather complex
passage from Joseph Chilton Pearce's EXPLORING THE CRACK IN THE COSMIC
EGG, gives a better explanation of my thesis:
"Jerome Brunner spoke of our "representing reality to ourselves"
verbally in order to make metaphoric mutations of our representations and
so change aspects of that reality. This is one of the uses of language
and creative logic. But, through acculturation, we don't employ language
selectively--either as a tool for logic, or as communication. When
language becomes semantic, and takes on negative and positive values
beyond denotation, our homeostatic system reacts to the emotional
undertones involved. Then we act on tangible sensory data, as well as our
abstract creations, through our culture's value system...We interact with
a "mediated reality" and consider the artificial result our natural
condition."
Thus, we have intelligent, well-educated humans in this country
declaring that there are, in fact, black and white people. There is
obvious confusion of the sociological definition denoted by those words,
hue or color, and the wide variety of connotations alluded to above. One
hears news reporters on television solemnly warning us of "a dangerous
black fugitive from justice, lurking in our communities." A moments'
reflection will instantly inform any fully conscious person, that that is
not information adequate to inform the police or innocent members of the
community whom to arrest, or to avoid. Nevertheless, the usage of black
and white (as well as other depersonalizing terms) continues to deepen
ethnic divisions, as most people, without awareness, sanctify these terms
as actual descriptions of real people.
This past weekend, July 16 and 17, 1983, a newscaster on KNBC
television, in Los Angeles, solemnly announced that "a young woman's body
was found in the hills; she was described as black." How many anxious
parents were discomfited by this off-hand "description"?
Bradley3
COLOR BLIND
A July 18, 1983 issue of Time magazine carried an article entitled
"COLOR BLIND" regarding a Louisiana woman, Susie Phipps, whose
great-great-great-great grandmother was an 18th century slave. Mrs. Phipps
found out in 1977, when she applied for a passport, that her birth
certificate called her "colored". She claims she has always considered
herself white. She protested and sued the state, but was found to be
non-white because of a law enacted in 1970. The current Governor of
Louisiana, David Treen, signed a bill repealing that law, which stipulated
that a person is non-white if he/she has more than "one thirty-second Negro
blood". The new statute requires the state henceforth to accept the
parent's designation of a child's race. The change is not retroactive,
however, so Mrs. Phipps remains a "white black woman" until disposition of
her appeal this fall. This is just a small sample of the absurdities we
allow when we continue usage of presumably racial designations when
referring to human beings.
George Leonard, is his new book, THE END OF SEX writes: "The power of
the abstracting, generalizing intellect is well established. This mode of
thought has helped us organize society, to control matter and energy, to
create useful new fields of endeavor. The flaws and dangers are perhaps
less well understood...along the scale of cultural evolution, abstraction
and generalization tend to precede territorial or ideological war and
genocide. That masterpiece of generalization, "The only good Indian is a
dead Indian, was the creation of civilized men."
What is needed, both in America and elsewhere is what Leonard calls
Radical Repersonalization. It means that both globally and in our most
intimate personal relations we must, with fully conscious intention, make
each person's FULL HUMANITY OUR FOCUS. In order to do that,a necessary
first step is to attend to our experience, in the moment, and to remove
from our use abstract and depersonalizing terms that prevent such an
experience. Two of those terms are "black" and "white".
The question arises, "Well, what do I call people; how do I describe
them, now?" My solution is simple; call them "Alex," or "Bob," or
"Laurie," or "My Friend." If it is necessary to describe someone not
present, as for a blind date, describe their physiognomic features, i.e.,
size and shape of nose, color of eyes, texture, length, style of hair, mode
of dress, speech, sound of voice, characteristic phraseology,
idiosyncrasies, height, weight, education, cultural leaning, language, etc.
It is perfectly reasonable to describe the actual hue of the person's
skin--and I defy anyone to find any person who is the color of coal or the
paper on which this article is printed.
"Well, what about fighting racism, surely we'll need to refer to groups
when engaged in those activities?" you may ask. It is not essential to use
the words "black" or "white" to conduct selective buying campaigns, or to
insist that employers hire persons who have skins that are not colored a
shade of pink, along with those whose skins are."
"But aren't you making the freedom fighters who introduced "Black
Pride" and the usage of "BLACK" instead of "Negro" or "nigger" wrong? No,
I am not. I participated with Stokely Carmichael, now called "Kwame," in
the civil rights struggles of the early '60's, when I attended Howard
University. He and others were responsible for the substitution of "black"
for terms we found objectionable. I supported this tactical maneuver, and
I am pleased with many of the results which flowed from them. But it is no
longer necessary to prove that Afro-American people can govern cities,
administer justice, program computers, manage companies, write books,
magazines and newspapers, pilot airplanes, design new genetic structures,
or assist in the cure of cancer. It is perfectly plain that we can do all
of this and more. We need to insist that we have additional opportunities
to do so. For those efforts, usage of the words "black" and "white" is now
not only unnecessary, but counter-productive.
"But everyone I know has been conditioned to use those words for many
years--I can't stop them!" No, you can't stop them--you can, however, say,
when they describe someone as "black" or "white." "You mean black like
coal or white like plaster?" "Do you mean Caucasian, and if you do, does
his or her 'race' add anything useful to this conversation?" I contend
that you will find that there is virtually never an essential reason to use
a persons' presumed racial origin as an element of description that adds
non-inflammatory meaning to the conversation.
"What else can I do to repersonalize my relationships and help others
do so, too?" Write the station managers of major media outlets in your
city: radio and television stations, magazines, newspapers. Write or talk
to speechmakers, teachers, authors, politicians--anyone whose
pronouncements enter our nervous systems; they need to be reminded that
their usage of depersonalizing words to describe human beings and human
conduct is injurious to all. Send color charts to television news
departments for them to use when describing criminals who must be captured.
Practice describing your friends to yourself, (in writing, too) without
using abstract identifiers like race. When you next spend time with loved
ones, or anyone you might need to describe, mentally rehearse
repersonalized descriptions of them. You might find your relationships and
your communication improving from the increase in repersonalization, the
"I-Thouness" rather than the "I-Itness" of your association.
These modest proposals will not, in themselves, solve the problem of
racism. Individual human beings will participate in its elimination
through a wide variety of activities. Individuals like you. You are the
operator of your nervous system. You can become conscious of, and have
power over the way you communicate. Accept your responsibility, direct
your behavior, including your thoughts toward ends which improve the human
condition, rather than those which perpetuate ancient and modern prejudices
and hatreds which deter our progress toward a world free of the racist
scourge.
BIBLIOGRAPHY
1. Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, copyright 1979 by G. C. Merriam
Co.
2. Exploring the Crack in the Cosmic Egg, Joseph Chilton Pearce. Pocket
Books, a division of Simon & Schuster, Inc. Originally, published by
Julian Press. Page 46.
3. The End of Sex, by George Leonard. J.P. Tarcher Inc. Page 100.
4. The Silent Pulse, George Leonard. E.P. Dutton, New York. Chapter 11,
"Life Cannot Be Fooled."
5. Neuro-Linguistic Programming, Volume 1, The Study of the Structure of
Subjective Experience by Robert Dilts, John Grinder, Richard Bandler,
Leslie C. Bandler, Judith De Lozier. Meta Publications, 1980. "The
map is not the territory". page 3.
6. Crisis in Black and White, by Charles E. Silberman. A Vintage Book.
7. Values Clarification: A Handbook of Practical Strategies for Teachers
and Students, by Sidney B. Simon, Leland W. Howe, Howard Kirschenbaum.
A Hart Book, 1978.
Copyright 1983 Richard L. Bradley (SWAM2::BRADLEY_RI)
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452.1 | | ATSE::FLAHERTY | Wings of fire: Percie and me | Fri May 08 1992 15:27 | 9 |
| Cindy,
Thanks for entering Richard B's essay. Not only is he a powerful
writer, but one of my favorite people!! 8^)
Roey
P.S. See you tomorrow!!
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452.2 | Christianity is about salvation, not justice!! | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | God's rascal | Wed Oct 26 1994 23:27 | 10 |
| It was made public today that Blacks are turned downed for mortgages
twice as often as Whites even though their income levels were comparable.
Now, I'm certain that our Christian sense of justice wouldn't actually
prompt us to *do* anything about this. After all, when you're leveling
the playing field, you might discriminate against the people who already
hold the advantage. And that wouldn't be fair, now would it?
Richard
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452.3 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | I Deeply Love Purple Barney Dinosaurs | Thu Oct 27 1994 10:20 | 50 |
| >> -< Christianity is about salvation, not justice!! >-
Let's touch on this first. The statement above is correct in a sense.
Jesus did not concern himself in the affairs of the Roman Empire
although he lived during times of high injustice. His real mission was
to seek and save that which was lost, namely, the souls of mankind.
There is certainly a place for promoting fairness and justice, but
this is secondary to the above.
>> It was made public today that Blacks are turned downed for mortgages
>> twice as often as Whites even though their income levels were
>> comparable.
This is illegal at the federal level. Richard, as a Christian, what
would you recommend I do to help see the private sector not disobey
Federal equality guidelines? Sounds like your saying that equality
and justice cannot be mandated, it has to come from within each
individual and has to be, as Patricia has stated, the sum of the whole.
>>Now, I'm certain that our Christian sense of justice wouldn't actually
>>prompt us to *do* anything about this. After all, when you're leveling
>>the playing field, you might discriminate against the people who
>>already hold the advantage. And that wouldn't be fair, now would it?
Cynicism noted. Glen Silva and I have bantered this about quite a bit.
It has been acknowleged that there is dicrimination...even after 25
years, government manipulation has helped bring parity in the
workplace, but only to a point. But it still has very far to go in
changing attitudes, which I don't believe it can. Bigotry will always
be out there.
All I can say on the "level playing field" issue is what I've stated
before. You talk about equity and fairness, okay, I'm for
that...PROVIDED...
1. You don't shell out unfairness to bring fairness to somebody else.
2. You don't discriminate against somebody to discriminate for somebody
else.. (which is impossible)
3. No handouts...no gimme's....standards must be met.
Now, regarding the article. Cindy brought forth an excellent point. I
HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG that labels propogate discrimination. This
is why I detest AA laws as an example. You classify one group, you
separate them and hence discrimination or ill feelings are created.
Government has actually kept discrimination alive and well in this
country.
There is no black or white. There is only Alex, Cyndi, whomever!!
-Jack
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452.5 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | I Deeply Love Purple Barney Dinosaurs | Thu Oct 27 1994 12:00 | 4 |
| Coming from you Richard, I suspect once again a mode of cynicism.
It was quite scholarly thank you!!
-Jack
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452.6 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | God's rascal | Thu Oct 27 1994 17:06 | 12 |
| .5
Actually, Jack, .4 (now deleted) was sarcasm, not cynicism.
Since apparently no one else is interested in the issue, I have decided against
countering the comments presented in .3. Since I already know the outcome
of such a refutation, I see no purpose in pursuing it -- At least, not at this
time.
Shalom,
Richard
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452.7 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | Barney Is My Best Friend! | Thu Oct 27 1994 18:17 | 5 |
| No problem...I was just responding to the base notes and your .3.
As long as it is clear that government mandates under what I stated are
the height of hypocrisy!! And quite unchristian to boot!!
-Jack
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452.8 | purity when it suits you? | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16) | Thu Oct 27 1994 19:01 | 55 |
| re Note 452.3 by AIMHI::JMARTIN:
> All I can say on the "level playing field" issue is what I've stated
> before. You talk about equity and fairness, okay, I'm for
> that...PROVIDED...
>
> 1. You don't shell out unfairness to bring fairness to somebody else.
> 2. You don't discriminate against somebody to discriminate for somebody
> else.. (which is impossible)
> 3. No handouts...no gimme's....standards must be met.
>
> Now, regarding the article. Cindy brought forth an excellent point. I
> HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG that labels propogate discrimination. This
> is why I detest AA laws as an example.
I too would detest them if I thought that AA laws
*introduced* labels and discrimination into a system which
otherwise wouldn't have labels and discrimination.
But that is not the case.
I'm sure you see this differently, but it is clear to me that
it is possible to have a society which is so unfair to
members of certain classes that measures to counter-bias the
situation can be justified.
It is also clear to me that mere measures to outlaw certain
types of discrimination can and do have, as one of their
effects, the encouragement of informal quotas (i.e., even if
AA didn't exist, most responsible employers would consider
the mix of their employees and would allow that to influence
their selection among otherwise qualified candidates).
So, do we do nothing? If the alternative to informal (and,
in some cases, formal) quotas is the wholesale and blatant
discrimination in employment, housing, and education which
existed before the '60s, then I'd be all for quotas.
We must distinguish between some discrimination and
widespread discrimination, of course. When only an
occasional employer discriminates against black women, white
males, or any other "class" then the situation may not call
for strong measures -- the applicants can always go to
another opportunity. When discrimination is widespread, that
is no longer the case -- there may be no other available
opportunity.
To me it does not seem that long ago that many in this
country faced not just occasional, but widespread
discrimination. I'm not willing to say that the battle
against discrimination is over and the "weapons" of law can
be laid down any more than I'm willing to agree that the
battle against Saddam Hussein has been won once and for all.
Bob
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452.9 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | God's rascal | Sat Oct 29 1994 12:57 | 51 |
| Note 452.3
> -< Christianity is about salvation, not justice!! >-
> Let's touch on this first. The statement above is correct in a sense.
> Jesus did not concern himself in the affairs of the Roman Empire
> although he lived during times of high injustice.
You're right in a sense. Jesus wasn't the water commissioner. But neither
was John Woolman, M. L. King or Philip Berrigan. Perhaps you don't agree,
but these are servants of the God of justice.
When I speak of justice, I'm not necessarily talking about legislation
or the government. You apparently are having a hard time making the
distinction.
> His real mission was
> to seek and save that which was lost, namely, the souls of mankind.
Hmmm...I read the same Bible and I somehow get teaching, preaching and
healing as a major part of his mission. Probably just more secondary stuff
from the fundamentalist perspective, eh?
Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, *teaching* in their
synagogues, and *preaching* the gospel of the kingdom, and
*healing* all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among
the people.
Matthew 9:35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages,
*teaching* in their synagogues, and *preaching* the gospel of the
kingdom, and *healing* every sickness and every disease among the
people.
Perhaps we could agree that Jesus' teachings were at least semi-important?
> >> It was made public today that Blacks are turned downed for mortgages
> >> twice as often as Whites even though their income levels were
> >> comparable.
> This is illegal at the federal level.
Yes, it is.
> Now, regarding the article. Cindy brought forth an excellent point.
Wake up, Jack. 452.0 was a piece written by a black Unitarian named
Richard Bradley, and entered May 8, 1992, by Cindy Painter, who doesn't note
here anymore. ^^^^
Richard
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452.10 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | God's rascal | Sat Oct 29 1994 22:43 | 9 |
| .7
I used to believe that Christian moral teaching was not based in
self-interest. Obviously, that is not universally so.
:-(
Richard
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452.11 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | Barney IS NOT a nerd!! | Mon Oct 31 1994 08:53 | 14 |
| Wake up Jack????? Gee Richard, you forgot the smiley face!
>> Hmmm...I read the same Bible and I somehow get teaching, preaching and
>> healing as a major part of his mission. Probably just more secondary
>> stuff from the fundamentalist perspective, eh?
No doubt. Those were all vital methods of revealing who he was. They
were most important. Remember, the teaching and preaching were only
the vehicles used to accomplish His purpose...which is to seek and to
save that which was lost.
-Jack
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452.12 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | Barney IS NOT a nerd!! | Mon Oct 31 1994 09:12 | 11 |
| >> I used to believe that Christian moral teaching was not based in
>> self-interest. Obviously, that is not universally so.
Richard, you aren't grasping it. You can't force a society to not have
self interest anymore than you can force somebody to tithe. Compassion
and love have to be drawn by personal conviction, not by federal
mandate. For God sakes man haven't you learned anything from
situations like Yugoslavia? The communists forced two factions to live
together and once that force was lifted....bloody war!
-Jack
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452.13 | | BIGQ::SILVA | Memories..... | Mon Oct 31 1994 11:23 | 8 |
|
Jack, what you say is true, you can't force anyone into anything, but
for protection purposes, fairness purposes, sometimes you do need to federally
madate stuff. It's more for protection of those people who could be afflicted
by those with self interests. Does this make sense?
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452.14 | | AIMHI::JMARTIN | Barney IS NOT a nerd!! | Mon Oct 31 1994 12:43 | 22 |
| >> Jack, what you say is true, you can't force anyone into anything, but
>> for protection purposes, fairness purposes, sometimes you do need to
>> federally madate stuff. It's more for protection of those people who
>> could be afflicted by those with self interests. Does this make sense?
It only makes sense if you are willing to maintain the labels, which is
the subject of the basenote. The mandates are always going to
victimize somebody regardless of their intent. I believe some of the
mandates were beneficial as they helped to break down some of the
social barriers that cause division in a society. I believe there are
other mandates which do nothing more than promote class warfare and
place labels on specific individuals...something I feel the writer of
the article in .0 would be against...I don't care what race or church
he is from.
Now let me ask you a question Glen. Doesn't it seem a trifle odd that
the powers who pour this compassion on the masses for some reason don't
feel they are worthy of following the same standards? Not just AA but
alot of other laws as well. I mean...what a slap on the face to women
and minorities throughout the country!!!
-Jack
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452.15 | probable red herring | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16) | Mon Oct 31 1994 13:01 | 13 |
| re Note 452.14 by AIMHI::JMARTIN:
> Now let me ask you a question Glen. Doesn't it seem a trifle odd that
> the powers who pour this compassion on the masses for some reason don't
> feel they are worthy of following the same standards? Not just AA but
> alot of other laws as well.
As you should be aware, there are a number of very basic
constitutional reasons why many laws can't effectively apply
to the congress as a body (in particular, separation of
powers).
Bob
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452.16 | | BIGQ::SILVA | Memories..... | Mon Oct 31 1994 14:14 | 21 |
| | <<< Note 452.14 by AIMHI::JMARTIN "Barney IS NOT a nerd!!" >>>
| Now let me ask you a question Glen. Doesn't it seem a trifle odd that
| the powers who pour this compassion on the masses for some reason don't
| feel they are worthy of following the same standards? Not just AA but
| alot of other laws as well. I mean...what a slap on the face to women
| and minorities throughout the country!!!
Jack, I guess if there weren't loopholes in the origional laws, then
you would be right. But the loopholes are there, and they really are based on
perceptions, bigotry, misunderstandings, etc. It's like if someone was drinking
and driving, they hit and kill someone. They find a good lawyer, and he finds a
loophole in the law. We then close that loophole. Isn't that what was done with
these other laws?
Glen
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