| Title: | Discussions from a Christian Perspective |
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| Moderator: | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE |
| Created: | Mon Sep 17 1990 |
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The topics (420, 421) of inherence, literalists, etc. for me touches upon
the subject of 'natural knowing'. Natural knowing, a term coined by
biologist Lyall Watson, is intuitive knowing. The following is an
excerpt from the book, Where Two Worlds Touch: Spiritual Rites of
Passage by Gloria D. Karpinski from a section of the book entitled
"Surrender to Natural Knowing":
"When we give up our conclusions about how things should work and what
is successful and what isn't, we offer ourselves the gift of the Zen
Buddhist "beginner's mind," allowing ourselves to see life in fresh,
new ways, Without bias, we can see our world with the eyes Emmett Fox
calls "the wonder child," and C. G. Jung "the Divine child." Perhaps
this is what the incarnated Christ meant when he suggested that one had
to become "as a little child" to enter the state of consciousness
called heaven.
Natural knowing. We know - we just forget that we know. Surrender
moves us toward remembering.
Natural knowing is intuitive knowing. It's not figuring everything
out with the information on hand, which only takes us around and
around, rearranging the known facts in preconceived packaging. The
natural knower understands by receiving knowledge from his or her
total beingness as it interacts with all other beingness. How else do
we intuit the presence of God?
Intuition is a higher form of mind than what we call thinking. It
embraces the functions of both the left and the right brains. It
includes the wisdom of the heart as well as logic. It includes both
the knowledge of the "masculine" specific and the "feminine"
connective. It asks both what a thing is in itself and what its
relationship is to the whole. Natural knowing doesn't have to choose
between the two. The analytical minds says, "Here is a room, there is
the ceiling, the floor, the desk, the lamp." The intuitive minds
says, "I see that. Now, how are they related, and what does it mean?"
Ro
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| 430.1 | RUBY::PAY$FRETTS | Uranus+Neptune/the new physics | Tue Apr 07 1992 08:52 | 5 | |
Wonderful excerpt Ro. Thanks for entering it.
Carole
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| 430.2 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Tue Apr 07 1992 23:35 | 7 | |
Yes, Ro. Thank you.
Would you say there's any link between what you've described as
natural knowing and mystical knowing?
Peace,
Richard
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| 430.3 | ATSE::FLAHERTY | Wings of fire: Percie and me | Thu Apr 09 1992 10:24 | 16 | |
Hi Richard,
I would suspect that mystical knowing takes it a step further or at
least when I think of mystical knowing in terms of the mystics of the
middle ages (Hildegaard de B, Meister Echart, etc). They seemed to
touch into the Universal Consciousness more fully/completely. Some of
the modern mystics (like Matthew Fox or even Scott Peck) have some
limitations culturally ingrained. Having heard them both speak and as
much as I admire them both, I sensed very slight inhibitions in their
thinking due to their religious backgrounds. But then again that could
have been my own biases! ;')
Ro
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| 430.4 | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Mouth don't fail me now | Thu Apr 09 1992 10:50 | 8 | |
Roey,
Thanks very much for entering this excerpt. I feel without a doubt that
'natural knowing' is a type of dialectical consciousness that humanity is
evolving toward, and represents the thinking which is an *absolute
necessity* for continued survival upon this planet.
Karen
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| 430.5 | SWAM1::DOTHARD_ST | PLAYTOE | Thu Apr 09 1992 20:37 | 18 | |
Re: Basenote.
Indeed it is a good topic, "Natural Knowing"...
Another aspect of it is this.
As we read a book you will note that their are TWO functions taking
place. 1) You put forth EFFORT, in the Conscious Mind, to read each
word. 2)On the other hand, the formulation of ideas or the
understanding of what you read happens without our effort.
If you can perceive that this is true, then you will agree that
"Natural Knowing" is fundamental.
What happens with many people, whoever, is that they do not trust this
natural knowledge or understanding.
Playtoe
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| 430.6 | VIDSYS::PARENT | The girl in the mirror | Mon Apr 27 1992 10:12 | 16 | |
Ro, Thanks for the topic. Natural Knowing, This is not instinct for me nor even close to it. It is what I've called intuitive association, a thought process for me. It's hard to explain, It's when someone might be explaining something and a clear thought occurs to me unrelated to the topic that person was talking about and without specific effort or intent. Frequently it is something I cannot prove or disprove, I accept it as something I know. Allison | |||||