| Title: | Discussions from a Christian Perspective |
| Notice: | Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome! |
| Moderator: | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE |
| Created: | Mon Sep 17 1990 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 1362 |
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"I Bring You Good Tidings Of Great Joy!" (Luke 2:10) Christmas cards are starting to arrive in the mail at our house. And I thought it might be kind of a nice gesture to set up a note for the sole purpose of exchanging Christmas (and New Years) greetings. Peace, Joy, Love, Richard
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| 360.1 | RUBY::PAY$FRETTS | if u want to heal u have to *feel* | Fri Dec 13 1991 09:22 | 5 | |
May the Heart of God touch all of you.
Love,
Carole
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| 360.2 | a great Light | OLDTMR::FRANCEY | USS SECG dtn 223-5427 pko3-1/d18 | Fri Dec 13 1991 10:34 | 10 |
And out of the darkness came a great Light.
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.
Let us share in the shining, now and forever more.
Shalom,
Ron
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| 360.3 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Bring me some figgy pudding! | Fri Dec 13 1991 14:28 | 7 | |
"For Unto You is Born a Savior" (Luke 2:11)
A child, a child shivers in the night;
he will bring us goodness and light.
Richard
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| 360.4 | Merry Christmas | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Fri Dec 13 1991 15:46 | 263 |
My Christmas Gift...
This story is the gift I'm sending out this Christmas. I like to give
something personal when I can, although this gift is a bit unusual, even
coming from me .-)
Peace,
Jim
A Story
"A true story? I have no true stories to tell," he laughed, "but if you ask
me about love..." as he pulled me towards him.
"Not now," I reminded him, and he relaxed, letting his arms fall aside, his
head reclining more deeply into the pillow. He sighed.
"I could sing you a song, or write you a poem," he ventured, grasping.
"A story. A TRUE story," I insisted, locking his eyes with mine, acutely
aware of the whole length of his warm bodily embrace.
Not without some effort he disengaged his eyes from mine, rolling those
smiling orbs as if still half seeking escape from my request, and exhaling,
silently shut their green and golden sparkle away from the mundane world. In
the new-born stillness I could feel his heart's rhythmic beat, modulated by
our deep, conspiratorial breathing.
"It began--" he paused dramatically, "on the day of your birth. And while I
was not there to witness it, I am told that on that cold and dreary autumn day
the sun broke through, bright and cheerful for an hour or so, warming the
ground as the heart of God.
"It is mere coincidence that this tale starts then, and that is the extent of
the facts therein. Knowing this, shall I continue?" His warm breath tickled
my ear with his question.
"I want truth, not mere facts. Must the truth always be rooted in facts?
Tell me a story!"
"All right then, I will tell you. On that day, in that hour of the sun, a man
was born, lived his entire life, and died. He was born, not of a womb, but of
darkness into light. He was very old when he was born, sitting on a bench in
a park, and his life--while it lasted--was no worse than many others, and
perhaps a bit happier than some.
"He had no name, for no one knew him. He was not human, for no one loved him,
and it is love that extends to us our humanity. Indeed he was little
different from everyone else in that park on that day, yet, when the sun broke
through, he felt the warmth on his cheek, and looked to the sky."
My own cheeks flushed as his radiant warmth imposed itself on my senses. "He
was not alive before that?"
"No, not really. But he became alive when he first saw the sun. A fledgling
human sitting on a bench in a park, staring at the sun until his eyes ached.
Realizing his pain, he closed his eyes, reveling in the afterimage. He found
that even within this phantom sun there were colors and details of which he
had never dreamed. Finally he reopened his eyes, releasing this vibrant new
darkness and began to explore his world.
"His bench bordered a pond, and reflected in its waters he discovered trees,
bare and old, their silhouettes scarring the sky, their shadows dissecting the
ground. Occasionally this image broke and rippled, and here and there a
shadow flickered so quickly he could barely see it; there was movement in his
world, fish and birds.
"He scanned for more movement, and found it: squirrels gathering for winter,
worried by the dogs romping in the park. He heard their barking and became
aware of an entire new universe parallel to his sight, a world of sound, and
even more; smell, taste, all manner of sensation. The very air revealed
itself to all his senses."
"You stole this," I accused. "I've heard this story before."
"Have you now?" he chided. "And what comes next?"
"Light and dark. Water. Plants, animals, people. The people, you have to
introduce the people." I tickled the bottoms of his feet with my toes, curled
up with anticipation.
"Indeed I do, though you have already met one. But I admit, you are right.
This is an old, old story, and one of the best, told many times in many ways.
Do you begrudge me that?"
I considered momentarily, while he tried to avoid my toes. "Continue."
"Please?"
"Please."
"There were other shadows, trudging along stone pathways. Shadows that
mimicked the slow, deliberate movements of the grey old men and women
camouflaged in their sweaters and scarves on their daily tour of the park.
Shadows he had never noticed before, and yet even in his present awareness, he
was scarcely able to perceive them.
"Across the pond he spied a commotion that stood out from the background.
Colors bright and gay clothed a young woman and a child. He heard faint
shouting, and amid a flurry of arm waving, the child broke and ran.
"Watching the woman eye the child, hesitating, and finally following after,
the man got up from his bench and started along the path that encircled the
pond. The world and all its detail reeled about him unnoticed as he hurried
along, focusing on what he now recognized as a little girl rushing towards him.
"The young girl stopped short, inches from the man. In her blindness she saw
no way around him. Panting, she stood as if transfixed while the woman
approached.
"But that's not--"
"Not what?"
"The story, it's different."
"It's my story, remember?"
"Oh, yes."
"`Hello, I couldn't help but notice...' he began, as the woman put her arm
around the child's shoulder.
"`I suppose we were quite a spectacle' she admitted. `My daughter, she--'
the woman searched for words. `We were, we were going somewhere, and--'
"`Would you join me on my bench?' the man offered, gesturing along the path,
`Perhaps we may sort this out.'
"`I could use a rest, thank you. Come along dear, we're going to sit a
while.'
"Arranging herself on the bench, the woman began. `My father, he's very
old, in a rest home. We were going to see him this afternoon, but my
daughter, well, old age is sometimes very boring to youth.'
"`Your daughter doesn't want see her grandfather?'
"`No, well, she loves him, and all that. It's just that seeing him, or
talking to him, his mind wanders, and she's impatient.'
"`I see...', said the man.
"`And the smells and the nurses and all. I suppose it must be very scary
for a little girl.'
"`And for you?'
"`I suppose. I try to be strong, cheerful. But I keep thinking he might
die while I'm there, I don't think I could take that. I don't know which
would be worse, finding out he was dead when I got there, or being there
when he, you know, died...'
"`They're both hard, I imagine. So many of my friends have died, alone,
or with family, they're both hard, I suppose.' But he lacked conviction.
"`I'm sorry to hear that. I wouldn't want to die alone. I suppose that's
why I do visit him. It's hard, but I wouldn't want him to go alone.'"
"What about the little girl? You haven't mentioned her. She hasn't said
anything. What's she doing?"
"She's figeting, as children often do when exposed to grown up things. Have
patience, I haven't forgotten her, she's very important."
"`Alone isn't too bad,' he replied, `it's the loneliness that's so awful.'
"The woman said nothing, while a tear came to her eye. `I know,' softly as
words can fall.
"The man gazed at the little girl staring off into space. `What's your
name, child?'
"`Anna. My name is Anna.'
"`A lovely name, Anna. Do you enjoy the park?'
"`Uh-huh. We come here when we go see granpa. Sometimes I get to play on
the swings when we're done.'
"`Would you like to play on the swings now?'
"`If it's okay with my mother,' Anna hesitated. From her silence, the
woman nodded her head ever so slightly.
"`We won't be gone long,' the man assured her, gently brushing her
shoulder.
"`Where are the swings, Anna?' The old man followed to her favorite swing.
"`Push me? Please?' Anna crawled onto the seat.
"The man moved behind the swing and began pushing the swing in a slow and
steady rhythm. `Higher, higher!' Anna shouted in glee. The sun showered
down its warmth. `High enough,' Anna called out. `Let me stop, and then
it's your turn.'
"The swing gradually slowed, and Anna jumped out with a flourish. `Your
turn,' she presented the seat.
"The old man sat down, and Anna started pushing with all her feeble might.
`Slowly, gently,' guided the old man. `There's a method to these things.
Back and forth, back and forth,' and soon Anna had the swing so high she
had to move aside.
"Turning his head to look at Anna, he commended her. `Very good! A smart
young girl!' And they smiled at each other until the swing came to a
stop.
"`What's your name?' Anna asked, not noticing that the man no longer
smiled.
"`It's--' he gasped as he fell out of the swing to the sand. Anna stared
at him, not knowing what to do. She turned and ran to her mother.
"`Mommy, MOMMY!' she called ahead, and her mother looked up.
"`What is it, dear? What's the matter?'
"`The man, the MAN! Come quick!' and Anna dragged her to the swings.
"`Oh, my, oh, no.' She knelt by the man. `Are you okay? Is there
anything we can do?' She lifted his head gently.
"`This is quite enough, thank you.' He beckoned to Anna. `Remember me to
your granpa,' he smiled, hugging her to his breast as he died.
"`Look, Anna. The sun is gone again, it will be getting chilly soon.
Let's go visit Father and then we can eat.'"
He kissed me on the neck, "What do you think?"
"That's IT? That's your story?" Tears ran down my cheeks and onto his.
"That is my story. You asked to hear it. What did you think?"
"I never even knew his name."
"Anna knew his name," he countered. "And he lived a life of love. What more
is there?"
"I was just hoping that, well, that it would have a happy ending, that's
all."
"Maybe it had a happy beginning, consider that." He wiped a tear from my eye,
and I hugged him tightly, desperate for his warmth.
"Let's go to sleep now," I murmured.
Jim Kirk December-1991
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| 360.5 | Shared by a friend | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Fri Dec 20 1991 15:14 | 65 |
DURING THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON...
MEND A QUARREL
SEEK OUT A FORGOTTEN FRIEND
DISMISS SUSPICION, AND REPLACE IT WITH TRUST
WRITE A LOVE LETTER
SHARE SOME TREASURE
GIVE A SOFT ANSWER
ENCOURAGE YOUTH
MANIFEST YOUR LOYALTY IN WORD AND DEED
KEEP A PROMISE
FIND THE TIME
FOREGO A GRUDGE
FORGIVE AN ENEMY
LISTEN
APOLOGIZE IF YOU ARE WRONG
TRY TO UNDERSTAND
FLOUT ENVY
THINK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR FIRST
BE APPRECIATIVE
BE KIND AND GENTLE
LAUGH A LITTLE
LAUGH A LITTLE MORE
BE DESERVING OF THE CONFIDENCE OF OTHERS
EXTEND YOUR HAND TO A STRANGER,
AND THE WARMTH OF YOUR HEART TO A CHILD
FIND BEAUTY IN ALL THAT SURROUNDS YOU
SPEAK YOUR LOVE
SPEAK IT AGAIN
SPEAK IT STILL ONCE AGAIN
* * * * *
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR
* * * * *
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| 360.6 | Merry Christmas | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Fri Dec 20 1991 18:26 | 17 |
"The Glory of the Lord Shone Round About Them" (Luke 2:9) To Karen, Cindy, Deb, Bob F, Dave, Mike V, Bob M, Ro, Carole, Nanci, Nancy, Ray, Bonnie, Mary, E, Collis, -ed_, Playtoe, Paul, Mary, Marc, Robin, Jeff W, Jeff H, Jeff L, Pete, Joe, Judy, Glen, Darlene, Alison, Sam, Joan, Jack, John, Lisa, Ron & spouse, peter, Eileen, Jim R, Jim K, Ann, Mike S, Alfred, Mark, Jody, Patrick, Pat, Charles, ktlam, Mel, Simon, Debby, Phil, Ace, and all you browsers and drop-ins: HAPPY CHRISTMAS! "Glory to God in the Highest" (Luke 2:14) Shalom, Salaam, Pax, Peace, Richard | |||||
| 360.7 | Peace And Joy To Everyone | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Dec 23 1991 16:14 | 15 |
I would like to take this opportunity to wish all
of you in this conference a peaceful and happy
Christmas.
I would like to thank all of you for the gifts that
you give me every day in this conference in sharing
your faith, your thoughts and your feelings.
May all of you and your loved ones have a joyous holiday
season.
Mike
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| 360.8 | Emmanuel | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Mon Dec 21 1992 19:00 | 10 |
The last candle of Advent has been lit. But there's still time. There's still time to find the Christ of Christmas and to know first-hand the Good News of Emanuel -- God with us. Merry Christmas! God bless us, everyone! Peace, Richard | |||||
| 360.9 | Peace to all | MR4DEC::RFRANCEY | dtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15 | Mon Dec 21 1992 19:56 | 6 |
And God bless you, Richard!
Shalom,
Ron
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| 360.10 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Tue Dec 22 1992 18:46 | 25 | |
Mother Teresa said, "God loves the world through us." So let us show Courage - as we are faced with new possibilities. ^ Let us be Hopeful - in this changing world. ^ Let us Rejoice - in the circumstances and challenges God allows in ^ our lives and learn from them and build upon them. Let us consider what's Important - from the perspective of eternity. ^ Let us Seek - justice for those who've seen so little of it. ^ Let us open our hearts to the Truth - of Christ's love of all creation. ^ Let us be Mediators - for those who find themselves in conflict. ^ Let us pray that in time All - of God's children will recognize each other ^ So - that all God's children will feel safe, valued and loved. ^ | |||||
| 360.11 | A Cowboy's Prayer | MORO::BEELER_JE | Eine Nacht auf dem kahlen Berge | Tue Dec 22 1992 19:14 | 49 |
From the inside of one of my most favorite Christmas cards ... the front
is a weathered and worn cowboy sittin' on a hoss out in the middle
of the snow covered plains ... late in the evening with that magical
star heralding the birth of Christ in the sky.
This means more to me than a lot of you will ever know ... the words
are particularly applicable to this old' dirt farmer's son:
A Cowboy's Prayer
Oh Lord, I've never lived where churches grow.
I love creation better as it stood
That day You finished it so long ago
And looked upon Your work and called it good.
I know that others find you in the light
That's sifted down through tinted window panes,
And yet I seem to feel You near tonight
In this dim, quiet starlight on the plains.
I thank You, Lord, that I am placed so well,
That You have made my freedom so complete;
That I'm no slave of whistle, clock or bell,
Nor weak-eyed prisoner of wall and street.
Just let me live my life as I've begun
And give me work that's open to the sky;
Make me a pardner of the wind and sun,
And I won't ask a life that's soft or high.
Let me be easy on the man that's down;
Let me be square and generous with all.
I'm careless sometimes, Lord, when I'm in town,
But never let 'em say I'm mean or small!
Make me as big and open as the plains,
As honest as the hoss between my knees,
Clean as the wind that blows behind the rains,
Free as the hawk that circles down the breeze!
Forgive me, Lord, if sometimes I forget.
You know about the reasons that are hid.
You understand the things that gall and fret;
You know me better than my mother did.
Just keep an eye on all that's done and said
And right me, sometimes when I turn aside,
And guide me on the long, dim trail ahead
That stretches upward toward the Great Divide.
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| 360.12 | DPDMAI::DAWSON | I've seen better times | Wed Dec 22 1993 17:54 | 17 | |
Dear noters,
I wish all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
'93 has not been a very kind year for me personally but I have high hopes
for the coming year. New friends and different possibilities....but I truly
miss my old friends that are no longer here. During this time I cannot help
but reflect on what Jesus has done in my life and hope that all of you may
experience the same love and kindness I know. From Pat Sweeney to Jerry
Beeler including Karen Berggren and Carole Fretts and on and on....I
remember. I often wonder where Allison Parant is today. She truly taught
me a lot. So I can thank God for these people during this last year and
look forward to the ones that are still here and new ones coming in every
day. God Bless you all.
Dave Dawson
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| 360.13 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Wed Dec 22 1993 21:10 | 16 | |
"Christ rules the world with truth and grace...."
I would like to add my sentiments to Dave's. I pray for the good of
all who prod us and and poke us and help us grow here in this
conference. I pray that the light might break forth in all our lives.
I pray for health, wisdom, and lives worthy of living.
I, too, miss the people who're gone, some who were given no choice, at least
one who answered a calling, and some who chose to leave because they
felt their spiritual needs were being met with more noise than nourishment.
I miss them all.
Shalom,
Richard
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| 360.14 | Thank you, Lord, for your Christmas Gift | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T) | Thu Dec 23 1993 08:40 | 8 |
I will be away from any terminal from Tuesday, Dec 28,
through Sunday, Jan 2.
My wish for all is a holiday blessed with your favorite
mixture of fun, friendship, affection, love, diversion,
reverence, and reflection.
Bob
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| 360.15 | Greetings from Austria | ATZIS2::BUTTON | Today is the first day of the rest of my life! | Thu Dec 23 1993 09:07 | 7 |
I would like to wish you all, together with your families and loved ones, a very happy Christmas and peace, health and an above average bundle of luck in 1994. I'll be back around 8 Jan. Greetings & love, Derek. | |||||
| 360.16 | PCCAD::RICHARDJ | My God Is OK, Sorry About Yours | Thu Dec 23 1993 09:24 | 5 | |
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all !
I'm out of here til 1994 !
Jim
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| 360.17 | A Christmas Prayer | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Thu Dec 23 1993 10:56 | 16 |
Gracious God,
Grant each of us peace and serenity throughout this holiday season
and through the New Year.
For those who are in good places this season, Bless them and let them
feel the full warmth and joy of family and loved ones and happiness.
For those who are in dark place, guide them, and love them, wrap your
arms around them and sustain them through this time of year which can
be difficult. Let them find hope in the image of the Babe in the
Manger, bringing forth new life to an often difficult world.
Let each of us find peace, and joy, and serenity, and love,
Amen
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| 360.18 | Celebrate Christmas with Joy and Love | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Thu Dec 23 1993 11:40 | 8 |
See you all after January 4th.
Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam - Sanskrit for: The Whole World Is One Family.
Namaste,
Cindy
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| 360.19 | Happy New Year, too | TLE::COLLIS::JACKSON | DCU fees? NO!!! | Thu Dec 23 1993 13:35 | 4 |
May the true meaning of Christmas give you life everlasting and peace in all circumstances. Collis | |||||
| 360.20 | Oh yeah,and lotsa good presents too:-) | COMET::DYBEN | Thu Dec 23 1993 14:10 | 7 | |
May you dream a childs favorite dream and wake up to the sounds of
children laughing....
David
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| 360.21 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Tue Jan 04 1994 20:17 | 11 | |
Before I forget, Ro Reinke (formerly Flaherty) and Reverend Ron
Francey both sent cards at Christmas and enclosed a note remembering
fondly folks in C-P.
I also received a very nice note from Marc Hildebrandt (Hope you
don't mind me revealing that) and an outrageously funny card from
Cindy Painter.
Peace,
Richard
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| 360.22 | JUPITR::HILDEBRANT | I'm the NRA | Wed Jan 05 1994 08:32 | 5 | |
re: .21
No problem Richard.
Marc H.
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| 360.23 | yes, I liked it too...(;^)...a lot! | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Fri Jan 07 1994 11:52 | 5 |
Glad you liked the picture of Santa using the bungee cord to
deliver gifts this year, Richard. (;^}
Cindy
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| 360.24 | Glad Tidings | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Mon Dec 19 1994 16:38 | 12 |
To our moderators:
Bob Fleischer, Debby Haeck, Patricia Flanagan, Derek Button
And to our current readership and participants:
I pray you Christmas blessings and Epiphany grace.
Shalom,
Richard
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| 360.25 | For the love of God and humanity | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Thu Dec 21 1995 17:25 | 39 |
Many blessings this holiday to those who've profoundly influenced my life this year: Peter Andrews Tony Barbieri Steve Bittrolff Dorian Brooks Derek Button John Covert Meg Evans Patricia Flanagan Bob Fleischer Jacqui Gardner Dave Gauthier Andreas Gutzwiller Tom Haas Debbie Haeck Mike Heiser Jim Henderson Mary Jo Hoepner Leslie Johnson Steve Leech Jack Martin Jay McCanta Joe McClain Bob Messenger Eric Myers Joe Oppelt Cindy Painter Ray Rosch Greg Schuler Glen Silva Phil Yerkess (If I've overlooked anyone, I'm sorry) Shalom, Richard | |||||
| 360.26 | BIGQ::SILVA | EAT, Pappa, EAT! | Thu Dec 21 1995 17:50 | 3 | |
Thanks, Richard! | |||||
| 360.27 | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | I press on toward the goal | Fri Dec 22 1995 10:34 | 5 | |
Yes, thanksvery much and God's best to you and your family!
Warmest Rgds.,
-Jack
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| 360.28 | On Earth, Peace | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | You're so good-looking! | Fri Dec 20 1996 22:06 | 7 |