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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
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Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
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343.0. "Agnosticism / Agnostics" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Passionate Peace) Thu Nov 14 1991 18:09

Agnostics -- literal meaning "without knowing" --

An agnostic is someone who will neither affirm nor deny the existence
of a Supreme Being or Beings.  Agnostics are not the same as unbelievers
or atheists.  

Some agnostics are highly skeptical.  Others are quite open minded.
But ultimately, the quality that makes them agnostics is that they
take the position that they simply don't know.

Any thoughts or comments on agnostics or agnosticism?

Peace,
Richard
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343.1DEMING::VALENZANoteblind.Fri Nov 15 1991 09:0137
    I am often impressed by those who say that they have always known that
    God existed, starting from a very young age.  Those people seem to have
    a special relationship with the Divine, a special affinity, that I have
    never experienced.  It is something that I don't understand and cannot
    relate to.

    To me, the categories of perspective on God are not discrete, but
    instead seem to span across a spectrum; on one end is the atheist who
    is convinced that God exists, and on the other is the theist who is
    convinced that God does exist.  The agnostic lies somewhere in the
    middle.  In the course of my life I have jumped around across the
    theological spectrum.  More recently, I have come to the conclusion
    that God exists, but this conclusion arose as something of a working
    hypothesis, and was in no way accompanied with a sense of finality or
    certainty.  Coming to this conclusion involved considerable reflection. 
    It was not possible for me to accept the existence of God until I was
    able to resolve many of the philosophical difficulties that led me to
    reject the idea of God in the first place.  It was my discovery of
    process theology that led me to realize that many of my prior
    objections were based on certain theistic formulations about God that
    are not inherent to the concept of God per se.  I realized that my
    prior objections were not to God, but to certain ideas about God that I
    could not agree with.  With that understanding, I was able to view God
    in a new light, and was thus able to again accept theism.

    But do I experience feelings of doubt?  Certainly.  I am even willing
    to entertain the possibility that perhaps God does not exist after all,
    even though I work on the assumption that He/She does.  Some might call
    me an agnostic because of that element of tentativeness, although I
    don't identify myself in that way.  Because I view atheism and theism
    as poles on a spectrum, I see myself as lying somewhere on the theistic
    spectrum between pure agnosticism in the middle and absolute theistic
    certainty at one pole.  But even if I am uncertain, I act on the
    assumption that God does exist, and therefore I identify myself with
    the "theistic" camp rather than the "agnostic" camp.

    -- Mike
343.2MORPHY::MESSENGERBob MessengerFri Nov 15 1991 11:1011
Re: .1 Mike

>    To me, the categories of perspective on God are not discrete, but
>    instead seem to span across a spectrum; on one end is the atheist who
>    is convinced that God exists, and on the other is the theist who is
>    convinced that God does exist.

An atheist who is convinced that God exists?  Hmmm, that's an interesting
perspective. :-)

				-- Bob
343.3DEMING::VALENZANoteblind.Fri Nov 15 1991 11:501
    Okay, so I made a typo.  :-)