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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

308.0. "The Christ" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Watch your peace & cues) Wed Sep 11 1991 17:54

    The Annointed, the Messiah, the Lamb, the Shepherd, Sovereign and
    Savior.
    
    Richard
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308.1I'm with you on this one!XANADU::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63)Wed Sep 11 1991 22:158
re Note 308.0 by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE:

>     The Annointed [sic], the Messiah, the Lamb, the Shepherd, Sovereign and
>     Savior.
  
        Agreed.

        Bob
308.2MCIS2::BERNIERthe Organic ChristianMon Nov 25 1991 12:343
    Jesus, and none other.
    
    Gil
308.3CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPeaceFri Jul 17 1992 23:059
Note 473.27

>But not that he was the Messiah, God Incarnate.

If I'm not mistaken Messiah does not translate to "God Incarnate."  Messiah
translates to "Christ" or "the Anointed One" or "God's Anointed One."

Peace,
Richard
308.4COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertSat Jul 18 1992 00:368
You're not mistaken.

"," does not imply translation.

Messiah and God Incarnate are two properties of Christ that Christians
affirm.

/john
308.5Prophet, Priest, KingSDSVAX::SWEENEYRum, Romanism, RebellionSat Jul 18 1992 14:2115
    Messiah means "annointed".
    
    Three kinds of people were annointed in the Old Testament: prophets,
    priests, and kings.
    
    To accept Jesus as Messiah is to accept all three roles:
    
    As prophet, he is the greatest teacher, the greatest of God's
    messengers because Jesus is God.
    
    As priest, he has offered to God the prefect sacrifice, His own life.
    The one and final sacrifice.
    
    As king, he is King of Heaven and Earth, and the source of all
    authority and all mercy.
308.6CSC32::J_CHRISTIEClimb aboard the Peace Train!Sat Jul 18 1992 22:1316
Note 308.4

>Messiah and God Incarnate are two properties of Christ that Christians
>affirm.

This is, of course, mostly true.  At the same time I'd like to acknowledge
that there have always been some Christians, some which pre-date the writings
of New Testament, who believed Jesus was the Messiah, but who did not
recognize Jesus as God Incarnate.

If I'm not mistaken, while being One whose arrival was greatly anticipated,
the ancient Jews never sought or required in their Messiah the characteristic
of being God Incarnate.

Peace,
Richard
308.7Jesus is the Son of GodSDSVAX::SWEENEYRum, Romanism, RebellionSun Jul 19 1992 00:0213
    I don't know who these followers of Jesus were (who profess that the
    claim made by Jesus to be Son of God to be hoax or lunacy).  Perhaps
    you can tell us a bit more.
    
    Of course, the strictly monotheisitic Jews believed that the claim of
    Jesus, the Messiah, to be the Son of God to be a blasphemy that merited
    death.  They killed the people who continued to call Jesus the Son of
    God, such as Stephen.
    
    It's not a matter of what the Jews "sought or required", it is what God
    revealed to them, through His messengers, the prophets.
    
    Pat Sweeney