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Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
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Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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251.0. "Bill Moyers: Spirit & Nature" by NYTP07::LAM (Q ��Ktl��) Thu Jun 06 1991 11:20

    Last night I watched a program on PBS called _Spirit_and_Nature_.
    Bill Moyers interviews representatives from various religions on the
    human and moral responsibilities of caring for the Earth and its
    environnment.  Did anybody see this and what did they think of it?
    I thought it was interesting but I thought some of what certain
    theologians were saying sounded vague and difficult to understand.
    But what most theologians agreed on was the fact that man had a moral
    obligation to preserve the Earth for future generations.
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251.1JURAN::VALENZAKnote Rockne.Thu Jun 06 1991 11:2749
    I didn't see the show, but I ran across this interesting comment from
    the Usenet today:
    
Article        10172
From: [email protected] (Pease)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Ruler, Father, Mother, Lover God
Date: 6 Jun 91 12:34:29 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
 
Last evening I watch a Bill Moyers program "Spirituality and 
Nature" on the local public TV station.  The program centered 
around a conference that was held last year about the role of 
religion to environmental crisis.  There were representatives
from Christianity, Jewish, Muslem, Buddhist, native american,
and others.  
 
The program gave excerpts from their talks, interspersed with 
Bill Moyers interviews with them, music and art that was also 
part of the conference, and interviews with students attending 
the conference.  It made for a very powerful weaving of different 
beliefs/perspectives on how God, nature, and man are seen.
I highly recommend this program. 
 
One thread that has been discussed here is the view of God as
the Ruler, the Father, the Mother, or the Lover.  A Christian
theologian said that she thought that the Christian religion has
done a disservice by it's view of God as a Ruler in that this
view separates God from that which he rules (man and nature).
The view of God as Father is not much better in that the Father
figure is not generally looked at as one who nurtures.  She suggests
that the Christian religion needs to give up this ruler/paternal
view and move toward God as Mother and God as Lover views.
 
She talked with a group of 5 and 6 year-olds and asked them what
they thought the term "sacred" meant, and who or what did they
think was sacred, and how they treated something/someone who was
sacred.  She says that the most common answer was that their mother
was sacred and that they would try to prevent anyone from hurting
her.  She then felt that if we viewed God as Mother then we would
be more inclined to view nature (as God's creation) as something
that was sacred and thus we would try to prevent anyone from hurting
nature.
 
Phil Pease 
My witty disclaimer - everything I perceive, through either sensory or
extrasensory means, has been filtered to such an extent that you had better not
attempt to attribute anything I say to anyone else.
251.2God is my honey, I shall not wantCARTUN::BERGGRENDervish on rap tourThu Jun 06 1991 12:4932
    I taped this program last night and when I returned home after it was
    done I watched about the first half or so of it.  It's been excellent
    so far.  I really wish I had known about this weekend, because I
    would've done everything I could have to attend.
    
    The Dalai Lama was one of the participants as well as theologians/ 
    representatives of Islam, Christianity, Native American, Taoist and 
    Judaism.
    
    I really liked the Christian theologian, Sandy or Sally McVae.  She was
    the one referred to in the previous note, Mike, who talked about
    expanding the language in which we talk about God to include mother,
    lover, and friend.  (Which is something I did long ago and has made a
    tremendous difference in my life.)
    
    But she also had another suggestion that I *really* liked.  It was to
    think of the entire universe as the "body" of God, rather than the
    Kingdom.  This struck such a chord of truth in me.  The earth *is* 
    part of God's body.  
    
    Hearing this was like a breath of fresh air.  It also brings God's
    presence even closer to me.  I've always thought of the earth as 
    sacred, but thinking and feeling it in this way deepens this feeling of 
    sacredness tremendously for me.
    
    This program is also being repeated a few other times this month on
    channel 2 and 44, although I don't have the exact dates and times.
    If I can I'll look them up and post.  For people outside of the New
    England area, I'd advise checking your local PBS listing.
    
    Karen
     
251.3Hope They Repeat ItPCCAD1::RICHARDJBluegrass,Music Aged to PerfectionThu Jun 06 1991 17:376
    Is this program going to be repeated this week ?

    I attended  my town meeting last night. What entertainment that was.-:)

    Peace
    Jim
251.4CARTUN::BERGGRENDervish on rap tourFri Jun 07 1991 09:508
    Jim,
    
    Yes, the show is due to be repeated a couple of other times this month
    on channels 2 and 44.  If I had the listing with me I'd post it, but
    unfortunately I don't.  I think you'll like the show, and it might 
    even be more exciting than a town meeting. ;-) :-)
    
    Karen