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245.1 | | DEMING::VALENZA | Stop picking your notes! | Thu May 30 1991 12:42 | 42 |
| One of the reasons I am attracted to Quakerism is its believe in
"continuing revelation". Quakerism does not believe that divine
revelation is confined to the Bible, but rather believes that the same
Spirit that inspired the Bible speaks to us today. Different Quakers
place different emphases on the relative importance of the Inner Light
and the Bible as sources of revelation. As a Quaker Universalist, I do
not believe that divine revelation is restricted to Christianity.
Philosophically, I am also attracted to process theology, which speaks
of the Divine Lure, offering possibilities to us at each discrete
moment, appropriate to that moment based on the current circumstances.
Thus while God is constant in His/Her goodness, the revelation offered
varies over time. I believe that process theology provides a
metaphysical and cosmological basis for a doctrine of continuing
revelation.
Other faiths have different views on the subject. For example, while I
am not a Roman Catholic (so my understanding may not be completely
accurate), I understand that the Roman Catholic Church believes that
the Spirit continues to reveal itself through the Church as an
institution that was founded by Christ. I am not sure how the RCC
views revelation outside of the Catholic Church, or whether it accepts
that revelation can even occur in any other context. I believe that
some brands of Protestantism believe that divine revelation was closed
with the writing of the New Testament, although I believe that some
denominations (such as Methodism?) may view other forces that take
place over time (including the use of reason) as being of importance in
the development of theological understanding.
Discernment is, of course, another question. I agree with Whitehead's
critique of what he calls the "dogmatic fallacy", and I believe that
there are several sources of discernment--reason, experience, the
worshiping community. For some denominations, there are different
approaches. The Roman Catholic Church, as I understand it, asserts its
final authority on matters of doctrine for its members. For some
(including some Quakers), the Bible is the final test of authority.
The questions of divine revelation, final authority, the role of the
Bible, and religious pluralism seem to me to be very much interrelated.
-- Mike
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245.2 | Major and minor Divine Revelations... | SWAM1::DOTHARD_ST | PLAYTOE | Thu May 30 1991 15:40 | 19 |
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Of course we have Islam which came after the bible, which is claimed to
be a Divine Revelation to the Prophet Muhammed, and from what it looks
like, how it has florished and grew, it seems to be true. So I believe
Divine Revelation continues, but not necessary for Christians, or the
followers of Christ. Jesus said something about "Not one jot or
tittle..." referring to the fulfillment of the bible before [further
revelations come]. This seems to address new revelations for the
collective.
I do, however, also believe in "individual" revelations, as we come
into the knowledge of the true meaning of what Jesus or the bible says.
As it is written, "No man cometh to God unless it be given him of God,
and also "the Holy Spirit will lead thee into all truth", thus I
conclude there is an "individual" Divine Revelation ongoing by the
Holy Spirit. But again, this is not any "new" revelations, but the
revelation of true understanding of the Bible.
Playtoe
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245.3 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | off the map | Thu May 30 1991 16:17 | 15 |
| Divine revelation is a continuing process imho. I am not so sure
though that these revelations are "new" in an absolute sense.
They may be new to be person who is experiencing them however.
For myself divine revelations continue to unfold in my life and
serve to deepen and expand the divine revelations that have come
before it. The revelations come through a variety of ways: prayerful
meditation, drumming, quiet walks in nature, dreams, moments of insight
and inspiration, and through significant coinciding events referred to
as synchronicity.
I know they are divine revelations when they reveal a deeper
understanding and experience of love, compassion, and forgiveness.
Karen
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245.4 | Ongoing revelation in many ways | XLIB::JACKSON | Collis Jackson | Thu May 30 1991 17:16 | 8 |
| Indeed, I agreed that God continues to reveal Himself to us in many ways.
Although I do not agree with the classic argument of why the canon of
Scripture is closed (I Cor 13 that the "perfect" has come), I do have
serious doubts as to whether any Scripture has been or will be written
since the 1st century.
Collis
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245.5 | Say that again, please | SWAM1::DOTHARD_ST | PLAYTOE | Thu May 30 1991 18:49 | 3 |
| re: 4
Please restate...I'm not clear on what you're saying.
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245.6 | pointer | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Human | Fri May 31 1991 23:59 | 3 |
| Also see 18.176.
Richard
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245.7 | Continuing revelation affirmed | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Humyn | Wed Jun 05 1991 23:56 | 8 |
| The book of called "Acts" or "The Acts of the Apostles" has no closing,
no ending statement. To me, this is very telling. It says to me that
it was not intended to be closed, that it was not intended to be
restricted by the imposition of an ending, but rather, to have chapters
appended as the Spirit so moved, even unto the present.
Peace,
Richard
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245.8 | How God reveals himself | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Will I make it to my 18th Anniversary? | Tue Aug 04 1992 21:39 | 19 |
| God chose to reveal himself and to make known to us the hidden purpose
of his will (cf. Eph 1:9) by which through Christ, the Word made flesh,
man has access to the Father in the Holy Spirit and comes to share in
the divine nature (cf. Eph. 2:18, 32 Pe 1:4).
Through this revelation, therefore, the invisible God (cf. Col 1:15,
1 Tm 1:17)... speaks to men as friends (cf. Ex 33:11, Jn. 15:14-15) and
lives among them (cf. Bar. 3:38) so that he may invite and take them
into fellowship with himself
This plan of revelation is realized by deeds and words having an
inner unity; the deeds wrought by God in the history of salvation
manifest and confirm the teaching and realities signified by the words,
while the words proclaim the deeds and clarify the mystery contained in
them. By this revelation then, the deepest truth about God and the
salvation of man is made clear to us in Christ, who is the Mediator and
at the same time the fullness of all revelation.
Constitution on Revelation, Second Vatican Council
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