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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

159.0. "SUPPORT UPDATES" by RAVEN1::WATKINS () Tue Feb 12 1991 16:30

      Note: Greenville, South Carolina
    
    There was a raily for support of the troops in Desert Storm in
    Greenville.  Over 2,000 people were there.  Everyone had flags.
    Singing and band groups from Bob Jones University were there.
    The Governer of South Carolina was there.  Video tapes were made
    and sent to the troops.  
    
    
    Holywood, CA.
    
    Cher and a group of her friends are making a video to send to the
    troops to show support for them.
    
    
    Greenville, SC
    
    A radio  station, WFBC, that sales American car flags has stated that
    they have sold over 1,000 in the last month.  They sale them so fast
    they cannot keep them on hand.
    
    
    
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159.1LET US KNOWRAVEN1::WATKINSTue Feb 12 1991 16:345
      If you know of things done in your area in support of the troops and
    or support for the military action of the US please share them here.
    
    
                                  Marshall
159.2I see no connection to a Christian Perspective yetCSC32::J_CHRISTIETempered PeaceTue Feb 12 1991 18:345
    Can we somehow tie this topic in with the thrust of this
    conference?
    
    Richard Jones-Christie
    Co-Moderator
159.3CHRISTIANS IN SUPPORT OF THE US AND TROOPSRAVEN1::WATKINSTue Feb 12 1991 19:2813
    It is simple. In note 158. those that are christians that do not
    support the US in the military action are voicing their beliefs.  
    
    I started this note for Christians that do support the US and the 
    troops so that they too will have a voice for their beliefs.
    
    The only connection to a Christian Prespective note 158 has is that
    a church group is reporting protest news.
    
                                      Marshall  
    
    
    
159.4DELNI::MEYERDave MeyerTue Feb 12 1991 21:0510
    Marshall,
    	note 158 is devoted to what Christian leaders around the world are
    saying about the war - in a Christian context. They, like several of us
    in this conference, seem to be opposed to one or more facets of the war
    in the Gulf. They are not people who might be expected to support the
    troops of one faction or another, they are instead the leaders of
    various Christian sects - people generally accepted by Christians as
    having a high moral code. You have stated your opinions regarding our
    duty to our leaders and government in other notes and given it a
    Christian perspective in them. I see 159.* as cheerleading.
159.5CSC32::J_CHRISTIETempered PeaceTue Feb 12 1991 21:1811
    Re .3
    
    I found no mention of any Christian groupings in .0 or .1.
    
    I found no mention of any religious tradition, religious affiliation,
    or religious values in .0 or .1.
    
    Thank you, Marshall, for clarifying your intended relevance in 159.3.
    
    Richard Jones-Christie
    Co-moderator
159.6let's see how this one goesXANADU::FLEISCHERBlessed are the peacemakers (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63)Tue Feb 12 1991 21:187
I personally do believe that this note is appropriate, although I would
want to remind participants in this topic that it is connection to
Christian teaching, ethics, morals, values and Christian bodies that makes
such a topic appropriate.

Bob
Yet Another Moderator
159.7DELNI::MEYERDave MeyerTue Feb 12 1991 21:2910
    Marshall,
    	my previous response here was based in part on a quick review of
    the first half dozen or so replies to 158. I have since noted that
    there is also discussion in that string that is from people who are
    obviously not religious leaders, the two of us included. However, that
    discussion is centered upon the comments in the news reports and comes
    from a "christian perspective". You may note that I have supported the
    right of the government to imprison a soldier who refused to obey a
    legal, if morally unacceptable, order. Does this not coincide with your
    observations of the Biblical call to obey authority ?
159.8RAVEN1::WATKINSFri Feb 15 1991 18:464
      Yes.  To the the question you gave me, Dave.
    
    
                        Marshall
159.9RAVEN1::WATKINSSun Feb 24 1991 16:288
    Pastor Jonathan Crosby of the Greenville Church, a bible baptist
    church, has stated that now we are at war we must support our troops
    and our President.  That while we had not actually gone to war before
    Jan 15, 1991 that was the time to pray for peace.  But now that we
    are at war it is time to pray that God would give President Bush the
    wisdom to let the Generals run the war.   
    
                                 Marshall
159.10LNBOAT::NOONANQuaker hussyMon Feb 25 1991 09:225
    Well, sorry Marshall, but I disagree passionately with Pastor Jonathan
    Crosby!  I believed before Jan. 15th that this war was wrong, and I
    still believe that.  
    
    E Grace
159.11DELNI::MEYERDave MeyerMon Feb 25 1991 14:446
    E Grace !  You have your own account !  Congrats.
    
    Marshall; I, too, disagree with Pastor Crosby. If he wants to be led
    into a sinful and shameful path such as praying for death and
    destruction, that is his error. I pray for our troops, that they might
    live to benefit from a resolution which would stop the bloodshed.
159.12RAVEN1::WATKINSSat Mar 02 1991 18:3726
    PRAISE GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    KUWAIT IS FREE!  THE MURDERS OF IRAQ HAVE BEEN DEFEATED!
    
    I saw on TV an Iraqi soldier stating that he had beaten and killed 
    Kuwaity people.  Then I saw a doctor show us on TV the bodies of 
    people the Iraqis had beaten and killed.   Then I saw Kuwaity men,
    women, and children hugging Americans and thanking President Bush
    for their freedom.
    
    
    The Greenville News reports:
    
    "As about 400 people converged on a patriotic rally Friday (3-1-91)
    night in Haywood Mall, a sense of disbelief, pride, and joy swept the
    crowd as they sang patriotic songs, waved flags and celebrated the
    end of the Presian Gulf War."
    
    "The Greenville County chapter of the Red Cross has also sold Operation
    Homefront T-shirts, sweat shirts, pins and flags in efforts to raise
    money for needy military families."
    
    
    
                                Marshall
159.13There *are* two sidesLNBOAT::NOONANl950's style hug-kitten. mewMon Mar 04 1991 10:033
    ...and thank God also that no more Iraqis will be murdered, either.
    
    E Grace
159.14how do you defeat a murder ?DELNI::MEYERDave MeyerMon Mar 04 1991 14:468
    Marshall,
    	I believe you meant "the Iraqi Murderers" rather than "THE MURDERS
    OF IRAQ", right ?  I also saw on TV the bodies of men, women and
    children - non-combatants, one and all - who had been burnt and
    mutilated during the war - Iraqis who happened to be too near what was
    believed to be a military target when a coalition bomber happened by.
    They had no part in the war, neither part of the government nor part of
    the military, until they became innocent victims.