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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

78.0. "Theocracy " by SA1794::SEABURYM (Zen: It's not what you think) Fri Oct 19 1990 23:00

    
     Back in the note on Christianity and capitalism the subject
    of theocracy came up. 
     
     Just what would a Christian Theocracy be like ?
    
     Is such a thing possible ?
    
     Is it desirable ?
    
    
                                                   Mike
    
    
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78.1Not desireable.CLOSUS::HOESammy, get off the phone: HELLO??Sat Oct 20 1990 09:0726
< Note 78.0 by SA1794::SEABURYM "Zen: It's not what you think" >
                                -< Theocracy  >-
     
>>>Just what would a Christian Theocracy be like ?

Possible example is the state of Utah; where an average of people
is 45-56% Mormans. (Registered members of the Latter Day Saints
religion.

Another isthe Vatican. It's a city-state ruled by that Roman
Catholic church.

The worst case example is the Islamic theocratic state of Iran.
 
>>>Is such a thing possible ?

Oh, yes. Some of the beginning colonies of the US was founded on
such a premise.
 
>>>Is it desirable ?

Pat Robertson and his comrads would like it so.

calvin    
    

78.2Since it does depend on God (you'd think)...XLIB::JACKSONCollis JacksonSat Oct 20 1990 13:535
I think we'd better wait for God to set one up.

If man tried, he'd just mess it up worse than he does now.

Collis
78.3CLOSUS::HOESammy, get off the phone: HELLO??Sun Oct 21 1990 07:3916
< Note 78.2 by XLIB::JACKSON "Collis Jackson" >
               -< Since it does depend on God (you'd think)... >-

>>>I think we'd better wait for God to set one up.

There is a real problem here. To some denominations that does not
believe that God continues to reveal or talk to us, how will we
know that God is acting? In Utah, the Morman fathers claim that
they are God's apostles on earth. They are, in a sense, God's
government here on earth, by their proclaimed authority from God.

It is less than perfect.

Then look at the kingship of David? Is that theocratic?

calvin
78.4Simplicity itselfXLIB::JACKSONCollis JacksonMon Oct 22 1990 10:409
Re:  .3

  >...real problem here.

Well, as I understand it, we (i.e. people) won't be setting up the
theocracy.  So we don't have to worry about it.  Jesus Christ will set
it up and those living under it won't have had a say in it.  :-)

Collis
78.5COOKIE::JANORDBYThe government got in againMon Oct 22 1990 13:2913
    
    
     
>     Just what would a Christian Theocracy be like ?
A world ruled directly by Jesus Christ. Whenhe decides to do it.
    
>     Is such a thing possible ?
Unavoidable.
        
>     Is it desirable ?
Desirable doesn't even come close to the greatness of His kingdom.        
    
    Jamey    
78.6How do we know?SALEM::MSMITHGimme some of that mystical moonshine.Mon Oct 22 1990 16:477
    Will the theocracy set up and ruled by Christ be set up and ruled by
    him directly, or will it be done by human intermediaries?
    
    If the latter, how do we recognize that the humans are truly the right
    ones, and not some self-proclaimed theocrat?
    
    Mike
78.7COOKIE::JANORDBYThe government got in againMon Oct 22 1990 17:2510
    
    Re Mike .6
    
    Christ will rule. The implementation has not yet been divulged. The
    effect, if not the implementation will be Christ directly.
    
    There will be no mistake, because only His own will be left and each
    will see Christ face to face.
    
    Jamey
78.8This is a TRUE TheocracyCSC32::LECOMPTEThe lost are always IN_SEASONWed Oct 24 1990 07:019
    
    
    	And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, "Behold, the
    tabernacle of God is with men, and He wil dwell with them, and they
    shall be His people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their 
    God.
    
    						Revelation 21:3