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65.1 | | BTOVT::BEST_G | you are living in eternal wind | Fri Oct 19 1990 14:47 | 18 |
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I think we become complacent with our set of ideas when we discover
that they work for us.
That statement may seem contradictory at first glance.
When a new situation arises, we have a choice about whether or not we
are going to squeeze the new stuff into the old box (however ornate
and pretty that box may have become over time) or if we are going to
get a new, bigger box, or build an addition or whatever.
Fear often keeps us from making additions or buying more spiritual
real-estate.
That is just fear that the old box will become obsolete (almost never
does, in my experience).
guy
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65.2 | | COOKIE::JANORDBY | The government got in again | Fri Oct 19 1990 17:09 | 4 |
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Because it's all I know.
Jamey
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65.3 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note while you vibrate | Fri Oct 19 1990 17:18 | 4 |
| Because I'm right about everything, and anyone else who disagrees with
me is wrong. :-)
-- Mike
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65.4 | | BTOVT::BEST_G | you are living in eternal wind | Fri Oct 19 1990 17:20 | 6 |
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re: .3 (Mike V.)
You must be wrong, because I feel the same way! :-)
guy
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65.5 | | BSS::VANFLEET | It's only life after all | Fri Oct 19 1990 17:21 | 5 |
| I'm righter than you are!!! Neener, Neener, Neener!
:-)
Nanci
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65.6 | | WMOIS::B_REINKE | We won't play your silly game | Fri Oct 19 1990 17:47 | 11 |
| Because it has formed a sort of center core of conviction for
my whole life that I rely on..
Bonnie
(and Nanci I always thought it was Nah, Nah, Nuh, Nah, Nah)
:-)
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65.7 | | BSS::VANFLEET | It's only life after all | Fri Oct 19 1990 18:13 | 8 |
| Bonnie -
I suppose it depends on which grade school you went to - it's sort of
like the old Itsy-bitsy spider vs. Eensy-weensy spider debate.
;-)
Nanci
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65.8 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Oct 19 1990 18:32 | 13 |
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Re.0
I don't think I can answer this right off the top of
my head. Hang on, this one I gotta mull over for a spell.
Why couldn't you ask an easy one like the meaning of
life or something like that.
:-)
Mike
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65.9 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note while you vibrate | Fri Oct 19 1990 20:19 | 4 |
| I want to hear more about this Itsy-bitsy spider vs. Eensy-weensy
spider debate. :-)
-- Mike
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65.10 | ban debate from this string! SRO please | DELNI::MEYER | Dave Meyer | Fri Oct 19 1990 20:57 | 17 |
| Flush the spiders, we're deciding the fate of the universe here!
What I believe is important to me because it is the core of how I
make moral and ethical decisions and how I deal with other people. If
most people lacked a similar core I believe the world would be a more
difficult place to survive in and if more people had a more similar
core of beliefs upon which they acted then the world would be a better
place to live in. Then there is the side issue of God and heaven. If
these don't exist then what I believe will just contribute to the
quality of life here (in an Itsy-bitsy way), but if they do then living
up to my core will help get me there. A win/win situation.
Please note that this is what *I* believe about what *I* believe
and you can like it or lump it. You are all perfectly free to have your
own opinions about your own belief systems, which I will like or lump
as *I* see fit. I promise not to lump yours in public if you will be so
kind as to do the same for mine.
Eensy-weensy indeed ! Where WERE you hatched? ;-)
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65.11 | Supportive spiders only?? | BSS::VANFLEET | It's only life after all | Mon Oct 22 1990 11:15 | 14 |
| Dave -
Just for the record, I happen to be in the "itsy-bitsy" camp as far as
spiders go. ;-)
Mike -
Since Dave has requested that this topic be closed to debate I'll meet you
at the microwave at 11:00 and explain about the Great Spider Debate.
;-)
Nanci
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65.12 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note in the dark. | Mon Oct 22 1990 11:20 | 4 |
| Nanci, I don't know if I can make it there by 11 or not, but if I do,
I'll have my slim-fast package in hand. :-)
-- Mike
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65.13 | because ... | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Tue Oct 23 1990 12:52 | 12 |
| What I believe is important to me because my life is not just based on
it, my very life stems from it. Without my belief in God, His plan for
my salvation, His purpose for my life, His truth revealed through His
Word then my life is nothing. I am dead though I still exist.
Seperating me from this is the same as destroying me utterly.
BUT THANK GOD THAT YOU CAN'T SEPERATE ME FROM THE WONDERFUL LOVE OF
GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (reference to Romans 8:31 - 39)
Gil
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65.14 | Whats' the difference if it doesn't make a difference? | CSC32::LECOMPTE | The lost are always IN_SEASON | Wed Oct 24 1990 06:30 | 9 |
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Anyone whose beliefs aren't important to them probably don't
believe in much. What you believe will ALWAYS make a difference in
your life. Even when you don't choose to make a stand about it.
...And if you don't stand for something you will fall for anything...
_ed-
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65.15 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Thu Oct 25 1990 18:57 | 28 |
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Re.0
Richard:
Do you know what a Koan is ? In Zen it is a question
used to force a person out of "normal" ways of thinking as a
way to prod them along "the way".
A famous one goes: Does a dog have Buddha nature ?
The answer is: Mu ! (Nonsense) which is a way of saying there
is no answer because this is the wrong question to be asking.
In my case the answer to you question is, Mu !
This is no joke I gave this plenty of serious thought and have
pretty much concluded for a Buddhist this question just does not
apply. The idea of attaching "importance" to a non-reality such
as a personal belief is kind of funny actually ( well at least
to a Buddhist it is ).
If you are serious about a personal spirituality that
is beyond dualistic consciousness then attachment to concepts
and also concepts that have become integrated with the concept
of the "self" need to be "removed", for lack of a better word.
Does this make any sense at all ? If not let me know
and I'll give another try at explaining it.
Mike
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65.16 | Re .15 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Thu Oct 25 1990 19:19 | 7 |
| I hear what you're saying, Mike. I was really trying to get at
the core of why at least some people get so fired up and feel so
threatened when they come in contact with incongruent belief
systems.
Peace,
Richard
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65.17 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Noting with alms. | Thu Oct 25 1990 19:32 | 12 |
| Belief in God is an important part of my own belief system, but it
doesn't generally matter to me if others do or not incorporate a
personal deity into their own beliefs. So in one sense belief in God
is "important" to me, but in the sense of not being generally bothered
about how others view God it is not "important" (It does tend to bother
me when others sneer outright at the idea of God, however.)
And by the way, speaking of koans, what *is* the sound of one hand
clapping? This one has been keeping me up nights more often than the
question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. :-)
-- Mike
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65.18 | From Jane outlook | ROULET::COMEAU | Romans 1:16 Never Ashamed | Mon Oct 29 1990 20:27 | 5 |
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Well let me see... That's not so hard, I base my hole life on Him.
He is what I am today, he is all in all like a really good home
made cerry pie Father, Son, And Holy Spirit. He is the reson I live.
The reson I Will neaver die.. He is Lord to me. He is my peace.
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