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42.1 | Question | EDIT::SMITH | Passionate committment/reasoned faith | Wed Oct 03 1990 14:35 | 7 |
| Richard,
I would like to here how you feel like a "closet Catholic," i.e., what
about the Roman Catholic perspective on Christianity is particularly
appealing to you, with your own varied background?
Thanks
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42.2 | Influenced by Catholicism | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Wed Oct 03 1990 14:50 | 10 |
| I'm attracted to the life and writings of Giovanni Bernardone
(AKA St. Francis of Assisi) and of Brother Lawrence. I feel
a kinship to souls like Bishop Thomas Gumbleton, Archbishop Oscar
Romero, Daniel Berrigan and Dorothy Day.
There's more, but I think this'll give you a flavor for what I am
talking about.
Peace,
Richard
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42.3 | Another thought | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Wed Oct 03 1990 19:55 | 8 |
| I had the honor of addressing a most cordial group of Roman Catholic
Christians in the Black Forest last Sunday. I had been invited because
my name appears in the local Diocese's Speakers Listings (with a special
interest in peace and social justice). I felt just as much at home at
Our Lady of the Pines as I do at my United Methodist local church.
Peace,
Richard
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42.4 | Peace be with you. | JUPITR::NELSON | | Wed Oct 03 1990 23:32 | 49 |
| The priest that leads our Sunday night Bible study has often
spoken admiringly of some things that Protestant denominations
do better than Catholics (Bible Study being one of them!).
I think that those who really hunger and thirst for our Lord
are always happy to share with one another. As with any new
relationship, it takes time to get to know one another and to
establish close bonds.
In my own Catholic community there are differences that can
generate considerable disagreements; sometimes these are more
hurtful and difficult to understand because of the general
assumption that we are united in all beliefs.
When my Protestant sister and I get together we love to talk about
our faith in the Lord, our spiritual pilgrimage, and scripture;
we understand from the start that we will have differences and
we transition off these before one of us feels compelled to 'win'
the 'arguement'.
We recognize that we both have Jesus as our Lord and Savior; we are
able to have probing conversations about all the rest because we
keep as the 'backdrop' to the conversation this dignity.
I had a very prefunctory Catholic upbringing (due to my dad's very
dominant anti-religious and particularly anti-Catholic attitudes),
a worldly young adulthood (including a 2-year hell in a self-help
cult), several years in the Protestant wings, and now, finally, a
life as an involved Catholic. I have both recieved and delivered
high-pressure 'sales pitches' of beliefs and ideas, lifestyles, etc.,
along the way. None of these left either party for the better.
On the other hand, those that were experienced in love and enthusiasm
without the pressure to sway views or win arguements were always
positive.
If we allow each other the dignity that comes from having in common
Jesus as our Lord and Savior then it seems that we can use these
conferences to build bonds and produce good fruit. Personally I am
just as upset with my fellow Catholic when I hear Protestants being
'dismissed' as when all Catholics are stereotyped negatively. (This
is not the same as exploring and understanding differences through
dialogue). In both cases (dismissing and stereotyping) the causes of
Satan are at work.
May our loving God unite us in Christ through the Holy Spirit.
Peace,
Mary
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42.5 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace Warrior | Tue Jan 05 1993 12:45 | 19 |
| Note 573.75
> At least Jerry is on the sidelines without faith and doubts everything
> so I know where he stands.
I'm not so sure Jerry is "without faith."
> I believe in the Bible and all that is
> taught by my Church; you know where I stand and therefore you know
> where to direct hostility to 20 centuries of Roman Catholicism.
I, too, honor the Bible and the traditions of the church.
I know of no present contributors to this notesfile who harbor hostile feelings
towards the Roman Catholic Church, unless you categorize disagreement as
hostility.
Peace,
Richard
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42.6 | Yep | MORO::BEELER_JE | Johnny Paycheck time ... | Tue Jan 05 1993 12:59 | 5 |
| .5> I'm not so sure Jerry is "without faith."
I'm not so sure either .. but .. different folks have different opinions.
Bubba
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42.7 | | DPDMAI::DAWSON | t/hs+ws=Formula for the future | Tue Jan 05 1993 13:14 | 6 |
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I sure do have problems with people who believe that they
know a person *SO* well that they can even make a statement like
"without faith". Seems to me that that is God's province.
Dave
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42.8 | Just a thought .. hummmmmmmmmm... | MORO::BEELER_JE | Johnny Paycheck time ... | Tue Jan 05 1993 13:23 | 10 |
| .7> Seems to me that that is God's province.
Er .. ah ... it just occurred to me .. perhaps what we are reading *is*
the word of - nah - God wouldn't do VAX Notes. Also, I doubt that God
would manifest himself in New York. He'd probably get mugged on the
way to the temple - couldn't hail a cab - would have to ask for
exorbitant tithes from the members of the temple so He could afford
a condo. Nah .. it's just Pat.
Bubba
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