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6.1 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note sidesaddle. | Thu Sep 20 1990 22:13 | 8 |
| "Appealing to his [Einstein's] way of expressing himself in theological
terms, I said: If God had wanted to put everything into the world from
the beginning, He would have created a universe without change, without
organisms and evolution, and without man and man's experience of
change. But He seems to have thought that a live universe with events
unexpected even by Himself would be more interesting than a dead one."
-- Karl Popper
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6.2 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Writing in the sky... | Fri Sep 21 1990 09:59 | 14 |
|
"Some people, I swear,
want to love God in the same way as they love a cow.
They love it for its milk and cheese and the profit
they will derive from it.
Those who love God for the sake of outward riches or for
the sake of inward consolation operate on the
same principle.
They are not loving God correctly;
they are merely loving their own advantage."
-- Meister Eckhart (1260 - 1329)
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6.3 | the Good News! | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Fri Sep 21 1990 12:10 | 11 |
| "Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to
you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you
are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you--unless
you believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I
also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the
Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third
day according to the Scriptures."
-- God (as recorded by Paul in 1 Cor. 15:1-4)
BD�
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6.4 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Writing in the sky... | Tue Sep 25 1990 11:47 | 16 |
| The more you seek God, the less you will find God
If you do not seek God, you will find God.
God does not ask anything else of you
except
that you let yourself go and let God
be God in you.
Above all else, then:
Be prepared at all time for the gifts of God
and be ready always for new ones.
For God is a thousand times
more ready to give
than we are to receive.
-- Meister Eckhart
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6.5 | huh? | DELNI::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in JERUSALEM! | Tue Sep 25 1990 13:31 | 7 |
| Just had to ask ;-)
If Jesus tells us to seek that we may find, and Meister Eckhart says
don't seek and you'll find...who do you trust?
Steve
(who realizes it's now time for an introduction ;-)
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6.6 | You can trust both | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Writing in the sky... | Tue Sep 25 1990 14:22 | 12 |
| Steve,
Some people fill their lives so full with their search for
God, there is no room left for God.
Jesus does indeed tell us to seek that we may find. He also says
(as does Meister Eckhart) that the kingdom of God lies within.
When one experiences and realizes the truth of that statement there
is no need for a search.
Karen
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6.7 | I found it! :-) | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Mission of Mercy | Tue Sep 25 1990 15:45 | 10 |
| Luke 7:20-21 seems to be appropriate here:
"Some Pharisees asked Jesus when the Kingdom of God would come.
His answer was, "The Kingdom of God does not come in such a way as to
be seen. No one will say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!';
because the Kingdom of God is within you (or among you, or within your
midst)."
A seeker and finder,
Richard
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6.8 | Luke 7:21 | XLIB::JACKSON | Collis Jackson | Tue Sep 25 1990 16:08 | 8 |
| As Richard correctly points out, the phrase commonly translated "within
you" can also be translated "among you" or "within your midst" meaning,
of course, Jesus himself. However, despite the desire of most Christians
(such as myself) to translate this as "among you", the preferred translation
is indeed "within you" for reasons in the Greek which I shall not go into.
Which leaves me wondering. What was Jesus really saying???
Collis
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6.9 | He found me! | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Tue Sep 25 1990 16:12 | 12 |
| Thanks for that quote, Richard, especially the alternate meanings that
you provided.
Karen,
It is my personal preference to view it as myself being in the
kingdom, rather then the kingdom being in me. Are you in the kingdom?
If the kingdom is within me, does this mean that you are within me,too?
If so, I haven't noticed you yet. Sorry. :-)
Gil
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6.10 | God is separate from us | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Tue Sep 25 1990 16:19 | 22 |
| Re .7 (Richard)
The "within your midst" is the key. Jesus isn't teaching that everyone
has God (or His kingdom) automatically within them. He's saying that
He, as the King in the Kingdom of God, is right there among them - in
their midst.
Indeed, Jesus' teachings tell us that we are destined for a different
kingdom unless we take evasive action. We read His words in John 3:3:
"Jesus answered and said to him, `Most assuredly, I say
to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the
kingdom of God.'"
God is not some amorphous presence flowing in and through - or "being" -
creation. He is a separate - yet immediately present - Being who chose
to create us and then gave of Himself so that, if we so choose, we
can forever live in His presence. Our entering the Kingdom of God is
dependent upon our accepting His atoning sacrifice for the sins that
have separated us from Him.
BD�
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6.11 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Shower the people... | Tue Sep 25 1990 18:06 | 16 |
| Hi Gil,
> Are you in the kingdom?
Yes.
> If the kingdom is within me, does this mean that you are within me,
> too?
Yes.
> If so, I haven't noticed you yet. Sorry. :-)
No problem, Gil. I'm glad my presence is that gentle. :-)
Karen
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6.12 | good stuff (to quote a buddy) | DELNI::MEYER | Dave Meyer | Tue Sep 25 1990 19:33 | 7 |
| One quote from Eckhart and a half-dozen interesting responses pop
up. Thank you, Karen. I am certain that God is to be found within us
and that active searching and breast beating are not the way to find
that, yet we must search in order to find - perhaps by seeking that
which is right we will serendipidously find God? I'm sure the two are
both true and reconcilable, but how? Maybe if somebody else has another
quote?
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6.13 | I once was blind, but now...I see! | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Shower the people... | Tue Sep 25 1990 20:42 | 15 |
| Dave -1,
The two are both true and reconcilable.
There is one God and Father of all, who is above all,
and through all, and in you all.
Once you truly experience this, the search ends.
For no where can you look and not know God is there.
We only search for things that appear to be hidden.
God does not hide from us. We just do not see God
sometimes.
Karen
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6.14 | | WMOIS::REINKE | Hello, I'm the Dr! | Wed Sep 26 1990 01:00 | 5 |
| Re: .13
Amen, sister Karen.
DR
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6.15 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Wed Sep 26 1990 05:05 | 6 |
|
"When I raise my arm, this is truth. When I assert that I
have raised my arm, truth crumbles into dust."
- Dogen
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6.16 | within...among... | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Wed Sep 26 1990 08:52 | 13 |
|
"When two or more are gathered together in my name..."
I see this sort of as yes, the Spirit of Christ is within each of us, but
perhaps it needs a focus, and outlet, hence the "among".
If I am to Love, I need somebody to Love
(agap� that is, all allusions to old Beatles songs aside)
(And btw, the "somebody" includes myself...)
Peace,
Jim
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6.17 | Jim .16, nice! :-) | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Shower the people... | Wed Sep 26 1990 09:57 | 1 |
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6.18 | feelings untrustworthy; use an objective standard | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Wed Sep 26 1990 10:47 | 7 |
| Prov. 14:12 -> "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end
is the way of death."
Jer. 17:9 -> "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked; Who can know it?"
BD�
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6.19 | re .18 | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Mission of Mercy | Wed Sep 26 1990 12:22 | 8 |
|
Barry,
I appreciate your selected quotes. At the same time, I arrive at a different
place concerning in their application.
Peace,
Richard
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6.20 | | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Wed Sep 26 1990 13:01 | 11 |
| Richard,
That's okay since "Scripture is of no private interpretation".
Howzabout we ask God to reveal to us HIS interpretation?
But to stay on the purpose for this note:
Better a little with the fear of the Lord
Than great night with turmoil. -Proverbs 15:16
Gil
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6.21 | an obvious one... | DELNI::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in JERUSALEM! | Wed Sep 26 1990 14:47 | 14 |
| For God so loved the world (cosmos) that He gave His only begotten Son
so that whosoever believes in Him would not perish, but have eternal
life.
notes:
1. This is my memory version
2. A few weeks ago, I heard this preached and we spent a lot of time
on the word WHOSOEVER.
God is SOOOOOO good! 8-)
Steve
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6.22 | | DELNI::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in JERUSALEM! | Wed Sep 26 1990 14:59 | 15 |
| Did you ever wonder if God could *really* love you?
Would someone with a bible at work quote Romans 5:8?
I think it goes roughly like this...
...but this is how God showed his love for us...that Jesus died for us
while we were still His enemies...
I mean, Jesus said that there was no greater gift than for one to lay
down his life for a friend, but for an enemy? Wow.
God's SOOOOOOO goood (have I said that yet? ;-)
Steve
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6.23 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Shower the people... | Wed Sep 26 1990 15:28 | 5 |
| Thank you Steve for this quote! Thank you too
for including the word (cosmos). Jesus is the
Cosmic Christ - Lord and Lordess of the *Cosmos*!
Kb.:-)
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6.24 | sinners not enemies | CVG::THOMPSON | Aut vincere aut mori | Wed Sep 26 1990 15:31 | 16 |
| > Would someone with a bible at work quote Romans 5:8?
From the KJV:
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet
sinners, Christ died for us."
From the NIV:
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were
still sinners Christ died for us."
Alfred
PS: There are several versions of on-line Bibles (all KJV that I
know of) on the net. I use a DECWINDOWS Bookreader copy myself.
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6.25 | NKJV rendition of Rom. 5:8 | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Wed Sep 26 1990 16:36 | 4 |
| "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were
still sinners, Christ died for us."
BD�
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6.26 | | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Wed Sep 26 1990 16:41 | 9 |
| Re: Note 6.19 by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
�I appreciate your selected quotes. At the same time, I arrive at a different
�place concerning in their application.
Would it be worthwhile to discuss these different places? I see that
Note 23 has some room.
BD�
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6.27 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Shower the people... | Wed Sep 26 1990 16:52 | 7 |
|
"The Logos of God has become human
so that you might learn from a human being
how a human being may become divine."
-- Clement of Alexandria
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6.28 | | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Wed Sep 26 1990 17:32 | 13 |
| "As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion
on those who fear Him; for He knows how we are formed, He remembers
that we are dust. As for man, his days are like grass, he flourishes
like the flower of the field; the wind blows over it and it is gone,
and its place remembers it no more.
But from everlasting to everlasting the ord's love is with those who
fear Him, and His righteousness with thier children's children - with
those who keep His covenants and remember to obey His precepts."
_ King David of Israel (Psalm 103:13-18)
Gil
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6.29 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Wed Sep 26 1990 23:44 | 7 |
|
"The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them,
but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity."
-George Bernard Shaw
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6.30 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Stealth noter. | Thu Sep 27 1990 00:23 | 3 |
| "Now we have known sin."
- Dr. Oppenheimer, after the successful detonation of the atomic bomb
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6.31 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note from Auntie Ramos' pool hall.\ | Thu Sep 27 1990 00:49 | 11 |
| Christians should indeed assume a positive attitude towards religious
pluralism. We can no longer endorse the viewpoint that the Christian
religion is the only true one. We can no longer condemn other
religions as "false." I'm trying to understand what a Christianity
that doesn't discriminate against other religions would look like. To
my mind, no religion can contain God's richness in an exhaustive way.
This means that there is more truth in all religions together than in
one particular religion. It also means that there are religious
experiences outside Christianity that can't be reached from within it.
- Catholic theologian Edward Schillebeeckx, in a recent interview
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6.32 | J.O.Y. | POLAR::WOOLDRIDGE | | Thu Sep 27 1990 07:50 | 7 |
| For out of the fire comes a desire to know Him.
Christ is like a cool breeze blowing agenst you cheek on a hot summer
day.
God bless,
Bill
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6.33 | cosmic christ? uh-uh... | DELNI::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in JERUSALEM! | Thu Sep 27 1990 10:04 | 10 |
| uhm, Karen ;-)
The word (cosmos) is (if I'm not mistaken) the Greek word used for
"world".
I don't buy the "cosmic christ" stuff that I've heard.
But you knew that already ;-)
Steve
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6.34 | dancing with the 4th Man!!!! Yeeee Har! | DELNI::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in JERUSALEM! | Thu Sep 27 1990 10:06 | 7 |
| ...God can save us from the fire, but even if He doesn't, we won't bow
down to your false gods!
- Shadrack, Meshack, and Abednigo after being
told by King Neb. that if they wouldn't
worship his idols, he'd throw them into
the fire
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6.35 | Does God's kingdom/queendom have boundaries? | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Shower the people... | Thu Sep 27 1990 11:10 | 19 |
| Hi Steve .33,
> The word (cosmos) is (if I'm not mistaken) the Greek word used
> for "world".
> I don't but the "cosmic christ" stuff that I've heard.
Oh okay Steve. Do you believe that anything exists beyond terra firma,
like our moon perhaps, or the planet Neptune, or the Milky Way, or
Halley's Comet, or the other billion plus other galaxies that are
scientifically understood to be "out there"? In your understanding
of God's kingdom, who is Lord of _them_?
By the way, cosmos does mean "world" to the Greeks, but you had
better check and see what the Greeks understood the "world" to mean,
not just your interpretation of how they used the term. From what
you've said, I think you'll be surprised.
Karen
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6.36 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Thu Sep 27 1990 23:49 | 10 |
|
"The quality of mercy is not strain'd:
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven.
Upon the place beneath: it is twice blessed:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes
'This the mightiest in the mightiest...
And earthly power doth then show like God's
When mercy seasons justice."
-William Shakespeare
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6.37 | So full of God... | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Shower the people... | Fri Sep 28 1990 12:06 | 24 |
|
In him were created all things in heaven and on earth:
everything visible and everything invisible.
-- Col 1:16
Each creature is a witness to God's power and omnipotence;
and its beauty is a witness to the divine wisdom....Every
creature participates in some way in the likeness of the
Divine Essence.
-- Thomas Aquinas
Apprehend God in all things, for God is in all things.
Every single creature is full of God and is a book about God.
Every creature is a word of God.
If I spent enough time with the tiniest creature --
even a caterpillar -- I would never have to prepare a sermon.
So full of God is every creature.
-- Meister Eckhart
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6.38 | | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Fri Sep 28 1990 12:28 | 3 |
| He who is on the road to Heaven will not be content to go there alone.
Gil
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6.39 | ex | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Fri Sep 28 1990 12:30 | 1 |
| Speak kind words and you will hear kind echoes.
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6.40 | On Faith... | BSS::VANFLEET | Treat yourself to happiness | Mon Oct 01 1990 11:57 | 20 |
| I found a wonderful book at my church bookstore yesterday while I was
auditioning people for our choral group. Last night I came across a
passage that I want to share with you all.
From _The Book of Qualities_ by J. Ruth Gendler
Faith
Faith lives in the same apartment building as Doubt. When Faith was
out of town visiting her uncle in the hospital, Doubt fed the cat and
watered the asparagus fern. Faith is comfortable with Doubt because
she grew up with him. Theis mothers are cousins. Faith is not
dogmatic about her beliefs like some of her relatives. Her friends
fear that Faith is a bit stupid. They whisper that she is naive and
she depends on Doubt to protect her from the meanness of life. In
fact, it is the other way around. It is Faith who protects Doubt from
Cynicism.
Nanci
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6.41 | My Grandmother's favorite & now one of mine! | CUPCSG::SMITH | Passionate committment/reasoned faith | Mon Oct 01 1990 22:03 | 6 |
| "When peace, like a river, attendeth my sould,
When sorrow like sea-billows roll,
Whate'er may betide, thou has taught me to say:
It is well -- it is well -- with my soul!
Nancy
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6.42 | | DPDMAI::DAWSON | THAT MAKES SENSE.....NONSENSE! | Mon Oct 01 1990 23:13 | 6 |
|
<-----my *ALL* time favorite, especially in light of the story behind
its writing! This song has brought me through many trying times.
Dave
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6.43 | A correction to .41 (It was late!) | ANKH::SMITH | Passionate committment/reasoned faith | Tue Oct 02 1990 11:18 | 7 |
| "When peace, like a river, attendeth my way,
When sorrow like sea-billows roll,
Whate'er may betide, thou has taught me to say:
It is well -- it is well -- with my soul!"
Nancy
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6.44 | | BSS::VANFLEET | Treat yourself to happiness | Wed Oct 03 1990 18:01 | 6 |
| ...I am the Almighty God: walk before me, and be thou perfect.
Genesis 17:1
Nanci
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6.45 | on Compassion... | BSS::VANFLEET | Treat yourself to happiness | Wed Oct 03 1990 18:18 | 28 |
| Since I entered something about the "C" word elsewhere I thought this
might be appropriate...
Compassion
Compassion wears Saturn's rings on the fingers of her left hand. She
is intimate with the life force. She understands the meaning of
sacrifice. She is not afraid to die. There is nothing you cannot tell
her.
Compassion speaks with a slight accent. She was a vulnerable child,
miserable in school, cold, shy, alert to the pain in the eyes of her
sturdier classmates. The other kids teased her about being too
sentimental, and for a long time she believed them. In ninth grade she
was befriended by Courage.
Courage lent Compassion bright sweaters, explained the slang, showed
her how to play volleyball, taught her you can love people and not care
what they think about you.
In many ways Compassion is still the stranger, neither wonderful, nor
terrible, herself, utterly, always.
-J. Ruth Gendler
Nanci
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6.46 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note with fluoxetine hydrochloride. | Thu Oct 04 1990 14:37 | 5 |
| Peace is not the silence of cemetaries; peace is not the silent result
of violent repression...Peace is the generous, tranquil contribution of
all to the good of all...in it each one feels at home.
Archbishop Oscar Romero
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6.47 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note with fluoxetine hydrochloride. | Thu Oct 04 1990 14:38 | 3 |
| We have to repeat continuously, "no" to violence, "yes" to peace.
Archbishop Oscar Romero
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6.48 | | BSS::VANFLEET | Treat yourself to happiness | Thu Oct 04 1990 16:24 | 20 |
| That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee,
that they also may be one in us...
-John 17:21
Today I am going to meet each experience as I feel it really is. I
shall endeavor to see the Divine Presence in everything. I am
demanding of myself that I see and sense and feel the One Life that
flows through all things. I affirm this Presence and accept its
benificent action because it already is. As I fare forth today on the
wonderful experience of living, I feel that I am on a journey of
Self-discovery and the discovery of the Self hidden in everyone, and
the Power behind everything.
-Affirmative prayer, Science of Mind magazine Oct. 1990
Nanci
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6.49 | Who is God? One reply... | CGVAX2::PAINTER | And on Earth, peace... | Thu Oct 04 1990 18:58 | 13 |
|
God is Energy. Love is the highest energy. God is love. God is the
highest source of energy which exists. There is no such thing as a
disbeliever in God. Every man is searching for energy and God is
energy. The energy that is God, however, cannot be studied and
observed like the energy of electricity. God is a subtle energy, a
force beyond the grasp of the mind and the senses. God is infinite,
incomparable. His energy never began, nor will it ever end. God is
the highest energy, the source of all energies. For this reason there
is only one God.
- Yogi Amrit Desai
Founder of Kripalu Center,
Lenox, Mass.
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6.50 | Didn't they ... ? | DELNI::MEYER | Dave Meyer | Thu Oct 04 1990 19:59 | 6 |
| Cindy,
can a lovely quote, which expresses much of how I feel, be
invalidated if the source is invalidated ? I seem to recall that the
cult refered to has closed its doors due to "irregularities" in certain
fund raising activities. Perhaps I'm thinking of a different cult ?
Naw, one in sleepy ol' Lenox is more than enough. I do like the quote.
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6.51 | Alfred's suggestion for a theme verse for the file | WMOIS::B_REINKE | We won't play your silly game | Thu Oct 04 1990 20:11 | 11 |
| This one is for Alfred
2 Timothy 23-26
Have nothing to do with stupid, senseless controversies; you know
they only breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be
quarrelsome but kindly to every one, an apt teacher, forbearing,
correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant
that they will repent and come to know the truth.
Bonnie
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6.52 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Thu Oct 04 1990 23:52 | 6 |
|
True happiness springs from moderation.
-Goethe
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6.53 | good suggestion | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Fri Oct 05 1990 11:06 | 7 |
| re Note 6.51 by WMOIS::B_REINKE:
> -< Alfred's suggestion for a theme verse for the file >-
>
> 2 Timothy 23-26
I like that verse, and the idea of a "theme verse," a lot!
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6.54 | | SIMON::SZETO | Simon Szeto, ISEDA/US at ZKO | Fri Oct 05 1990 20:10 | 22 |
| When I left DEC Hong Kong, the Christian Fellowship gave me a plaque with this
quotation:
Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
Where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master!
Grant that I may not so much seek
To be consoled, as to console;
To be understood, as to understand;
To be loved, as to love.
For it is in giving, that we receive;
Pardoning, that we are pardoned;
Dying, that we are born
to eternal life.
St. Francis of Assisi
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6.55 | AA prayer | CLOSUS::HOE | Daddy, can I drive? | Sat Oct 06 1990 23:51 | 7 |
| The prayer of the Alcoholic Anonomus (sp?) goes like
Lord, help me this day to change that which I can change,
Help me to understand that which I cannot change,
Give me the wisdom to know (distinguish) between the two.
Amen
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6.56 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Sun Oct 07 1990 23:54 | 9 |
|
"The decisive desire of men is not for peace, however deep
their longing, but for life in dignity, the sense of which burns,
however feebly, in every man, however humble his status or obscure
his place upon the earth."
-Eric Severeid
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6.57 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Mon Oct 08 1990 23:41 | 8 |
|
"Anybody can become angry - that is easy; but to be angry with
the right person, and to the right degree, and at the right time,
and for the right purpose, and in the right way - that is not
within everybody's power and is not easy."
-Aristotle
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6.58 | | CSC32::LECOMPTE | The lost are always IN_SEASON | Tue Oct 09 1990 07:37 | 7 |
|
God is dead!
-Nici
Nici is dead!
-God
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6.59 | the distinguishing character of Christians | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Tue Oct 09 1990 17:07 | 10 |
| "By this shall all men know that you are mine, that you have
love one for another." Jesus Christ
(with some credit to Charlie Johnson, who inserted this quote
in Golf::Christian (note 43.106) at a particularly
appropriate time -- it's a particularly appropriate time
here, too.)
Bob
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6.60 | The dynamic that is different from other religions | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Tue Oct 09 1990 17:22 | 8 |
| re .59
Thanks, Bob. I continue to be fascinated that Jesus did not say
*love me* as I have loved you, but *love one another* as I have
loved you.
Peace,
Richard
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6.61 | MLK | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Tue Oct 09 1990 18:15 | 8 |
| "Somehow we must stand up to our most bitter opponents and
say:
'Do to us what you will and we will still love you'."
-- Martin Luther King
(as copied from the wall of the corridor connecting the
second floors of ZKO1 and ZKO3.)
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6.62 | oh well....misspellers anonymous.. | WMOIS::B_REINKE | We won't play your silly game | Tue Oct 09 1990 21:54 | 9 |
| inre .58
I think you meant Neitzsche - but I can't spell either..��
and I think you garbled the quote..
but thanks for entering it...:-) x 10
Bonnie
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6.63 | Miracles | ANKH::SMITH | Passionate committment/reasoned faith | Tue Oct 09 1990 23:03 | 5 |
| Whether Christ turned water into wine I do not know, but in my case He
did a much more useful thing, He turned beer into furniture.
-- Leslie D. Weatherhead in "The Manner of the Resurrection,"
quoting a "drunken brute" who was converted
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6.64 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Wed Oct 10 1990 04:45 | 6 |
|
"It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the
world and moral courage so rare."
-Mark Twain
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6.65 | Take the whole teaching | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Wed Oct 10 1990 11:22 | 15 |
| Re .60
I don't disagree that Jesus told His followers to love one another.
Let's not forget the whole picture, though. God still comes first!
Mark 12:30-31 -> "`And you shall love the Lord your God with all your
heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.'
This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: `You shall
love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than
these."
Matt. 10:37 -> "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy
of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me."
BD�
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6.66 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note with rubber gloves. | Wed Oct 10 1990 11:33 | 6 |
| What I like about process theology is that it argues that love of
others *is* love of God, inherently. That is because the love we
express to others permanently enhances the divine life through
objective immortality.
-- Mike
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6.67 | It is One Commandment, Not two. | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Wed Oct 10 1990 13:27 | 6 |
| Re. 65
You speak wisely. But, allow me to reiterate Jesus did _not_
say, "Love me as I have loved you."
Richard
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6.68 | it didn't go so well with the goats | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Wed Oct 10 1990 14:06 | 30 |
| re Note 6.66 by CSC32::M_VALENZA:
> What I like about process theology is that it argues that love of
> others *is* love of God, inherently.
Which is not that different from what Jesus is quoted as
saying in Matthew 25:31-40:
"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, escorted by all
the angels, then he will take his seat on his throne of
glory. All the nations will be assembled before him and
he will separate men one from another as the shepherd
separates sheep from goats. He will place the sheep on
his right hand and the goats on his left. Then the King
will say to those on his right hand, 'Come, you whom my
Father has blessed, take for your heritage the kingdom
prepared for you since the foundation of the world. For I
was hungry and you gave me food; I was thirsty and you
gave me drink; I was a stranger and you made me welcome;
naked and you clothed me, sick and you visited me, in
prison and you came to see me.' Then the virtuous will
say to him in reply, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and
feed you; or thirsty and gave you drink? When did we see
you a stranger and made you welcome; naked and clothe you;
sick or in prison and go to see you?' And the King will
answer, 'I tell you solemnly, in so far as you did this to
one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to
me'."
Bob
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6.69 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note with kid gloves. | Wed Oct 10 1990 20:32 | 3 |
| Thanks for quoting that passage, Bob.
-- Mike
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6.70 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note with kid gloves. | Wed Oct 10 1990 20:33 | 5 |
| "Do nothing because it is righteous or praiseworthy or noble to do so;
do nothing because it seems mgood to do so; do only that which you must
do and which you cannot do in any other way."
Ursula K. LeGuin
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6.71 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note with kid gloves. | Wed Oct 10 1990 20:33 | 5 |
| "Earth's crammed with heaven, and every common bush afire with God.
And only those who see take off their shoes; the rest sit around it and
pluck blackberries."
Elizabeth Barrett Browning
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6.72 | Setting The Record Straight | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Wed Oct 10 1990 23:51 | 20 |
|
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall
we, the murderers of all murderers console ourselves ? That which
was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed
has bled to death under our knives - who will wipe this blood
off us ?"
-Friedrich Neitzsche
I thought it would be nice to put this in here in context. It seems
to me that the first three words are usually quoted out of context
and in doing so the whole point he was trying to make is lost.
Try as I might I couldn't find the quote where God says,
"Neitzche is dead" :-)
Maybe I wasn't looking in the right book.
Mike
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6.73 | hard to locate original | DELNI::MEYER | Dave Meyer | Thu Oct 11 1990 00:00 | 2 |
| Mike,
I saw it in a collection of cartoons, long time back.
|
6.74 | Gandhi | PCCAD1::RICHARDJ | Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection | Thu Oct 11 1990 09:08 | 7 |
| I don't know if this is already in here, but I just read it. It's
posted on the bulletin board outside the cafeteria in Shrewsbury I.
"Everyone of us must be the change we want to see in the world."
Mahatma Gandhi
Jim
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6.75 | | WILLEE::FRETTS | Ancient Mother I feel Your laughter | Thu Oct 11 1990 11:54 | 8 |
|
RE: .71 and .74
Thanks for these today, Mike and Jim.
Carole
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6.76 | He phrased it much more pithily, though. | LYCEUM::CURTIS | Dick "Aristotle" Curtis | Thu Oct 11 1990 15:05 | 4 |
| .70 sounds suspiciously like a quote from one of the early Greek
philosophers (Democritus, I think) regarding necessity.
Dick
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6.77 | As Long As We're Quoting Gandhi... | SA1794::SEABURYM | Daylight Come And I Wanna Go Home | Fri Oct 12 1990 00:00 | 7 |
|
"If one person achieves the highest kind of love, it will be
sufficient to neutralize the hate of millions."
-Gandhi
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6.78 | Speaking of Teilhard... | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Please, don't squeeze the shaman... | Fri Oct 12 1990 11:15 | 11 |
|
The cosmos is fundamentally and primarily living....
Christ, through his Incarnation, is internal to the world,
rooted in the world, even in the very heart of the tiniest atom.
Nothing seems to me more vital, from the point of view of human
energy, than the appearance and eventually, the systematic
cultivation of such a "cosmic sense."
-- Teilhard de Chardin
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6.79 | | COOKIE::JANORDBY | The government got in again | Fri Oct 12 1990 12:44 | 7 |
|
Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.
- Got me
Jamey
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6.80 | | ANKH::SMITH | Passionate committment/reasoned faith | Sun Oct 14 1990 21:14 | 12 |
| It is not possible to make the Gospels a set of ethical regulations.
All we can do is to catch the spirit of Jesus and strive to live in
that spirit. The only answer there can be as to what Jesus would do,
is that Jesus would do whatever we ought to do, if he were put in our
place
....Probably it is a mercy that we do not know more about the
actual deeds of Jesus than we do, for many of us are so literally
minded, that, with more detail, we should miss the spirit altogether.
--The Christlike God by Francis John McConnell (1927)
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6.81 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Please, don't squeeze the shaman... | Mon Oct 15 1990 12:40 | 20 |
|
Remember this: All suffering comes to an end.
And whatever you suffer authentically, God has
suffered from it first.
-- Meister Eckhart
When Christ was in pain we were in pain. All creatures
of God's creation that can suffer pain suffered with him.
The sky and the earth failed at the time of Christ's dying
because he too was part of nature.
-- Julian of Norwich
Weak and weary through suffering, reduced to nothing,
I finally collapsed, alone in my room, only to awaken
sometime later in the gentle arms of compassion.
-- me.
|
6.82 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Mon Oct 15 1990 12:54 | 9 |
| "Cowardice asks the question: Is it safe?
Expediancy asks the question: Is it politic?
Vanity asks the question: Is it popular?
But conscience asks the question: Is it right?
And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither
safe, nor politic, nor popular -- but one must take it because it
is right."
Martin Luther King
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6.83 | | BSS::VANFLEET | Noting in tongues | Mon Oct 15 1990 13:20 | 13 |
| "More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of."
Tennyson
"Spirit never descends to the level of our need but asks us to rise to
the level if its' givingness."
Rev. Lloyd Tupper
Nanci
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6.84 | Steadfast | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Wed Oct 17 1990 10:56 | 12 |
| For feelings come and feelings go,
And feelings are deceiving;
My warrant is the Word of God
Nought else is worth believing.
I'll trust in God's unchanging Word
Till soul and body sever;
For, though all things shall pass away,
His Word shall stand forever.
- uncredited in a quote book I have
Gil
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6.86 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Oct 17 1990 17:09 | 6 |
|
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
-Isaac Asimov
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6.87 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Please, don't squeeze the shaman... | Thu Oct 18 1990 10:22 | 27 |
|
Friend, please tell me what I can do about this world
I hold to, and keep spinning out!
I gave up sewn clothes, and wore a robe,
but I noticed one day the cloth was well woven.
So I bought some burlap, but I still
throw it elegantly over my left shoulder.
I pulled back my sexual longings,
and now I discover that I'm angry a lot.
I gave up rage, and now I notice
that I am greedy all day.
I worked hard at dissolving the greed,
and now I am proud of myself.
When the mind wants to break its link with the world
it still holds on to one thing.
Kabir says: Listen my friend,
there are very few that find the path!
-- Kabir, _The Kabir Book_
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6.88 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Thu Oct 18 1990 16:21 | 5 |
|
"No man should so act as to make gain out of
the ignorence of another."
-Cicero
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6.89 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Oct 19 1990 16:48 | 6 |
|
"Wherever there is a human being, there is an opportunity
for kindness."
-Seneca
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6.90 | | WILLEE::FRETTS | Ancient Mother I hear Your song | Sat Oct 20 1990 21:40 | 53 |
|
Where I am after a day and evening listening to and enjoying Matthew Fox.
Have I told you lately that I love you
Have I told you there's no one above you
Fill my heart with gladness
Take away my sadness
Ease my troubles, that's what you do
Oh the morning sun in all it's glory
Greets the day with hope and comfort too
And you fill my life with laughter
You can make it better
Ease my troubles, that's what you do
There's a love that's divine
And it's yours and it's mine
Like the sun at the end of the day
We should give thanks and pray to the one
Have I told you lately that I love you
Have I told you there's no one above you
Fill my heart with gladness
Take away my sadness
Ease my troubles, that's what you do
There's a love that's divine
And it's yours and it's mine
And it shines like the sun
At the end of the day we will give thanks
And pray to the one
Have I told you lately that I love you
Have I told you there's no one above you
Fill my heart with gladness
Take away my sadness
Ease my troubles, that's what you do
Van Morrison
This morning before the seminar began, I went to the bookstore.
I saw a greeting card which said on the front "Have I told you
lately that I love you", and picked up a bunch of them to send
to my family. On the way home tonight, this song played on the
radio and brought tears to my eyes. At that moment I felt
totally loved.
Carole
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6.91 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Haven't enuf pagans been burned? | Sat Oct 20 1990 22:14 | 17 |
|
It's in every one of us
to be wise.
Find your heart,
open up both your eyes.
We can all know everything
without ever knowing why.
It's in every one of us
by and by.
-- unknown
Sung at today's workshop with Matthew Fox in praise of Sophia, Divine
Wisdom as noted in the Bible.
|
6.92 | Where do we begin? Begin with the Heart!
| ATSE::FLAHERTY | Strength lies in the quiet mind | Mon Oct 22 1990 10:34 | 10 |
| I too spent Friday evening and all day Saturday with Matthew Fox. I didn't
take notes (I took the easy way out and ordered the tape of the lecture/
workshop), but I did write down one quote:
Become aware of what is in you...
Meister Echkart
Ro
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6.93 | y | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Haven't enuf pagans been burned? | Mon Oct 22 1990 11:29 | 6 |
|
When a man is deprived of the power of expression,
he will express himself in a drive for power.
-- Jose Arguelles
|
6.94 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Oct 22 1990 16:02 | 5 |
|
"Hating people is like burning your house down to get of a rat."
- Harry Emerson Fosdick
|
6.95 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Oct 23 1990 16:10 | 7 |
|
"It is easy to keep things at a distance; it is hard
to get beyond them."
-Bunan
|
6.96 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Oct 24 1990 15:41 | 6 |
|
"Look not mournfully into the past. It comes not again. Wisely improve
the present. It is thine. Go forth to meet the shadowy future,
without fear, and with a manly heart."
- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
|
6.97 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Thu Oct 25 1990 15:47 | 11 |
|
"The best way to achieve success is to get even. I have spent my
whole life getting even with people who said I would wind up as
a bad person. The reason they said this was because I was a funny
kid, and nobody likes a funny kid. Most of the people who predicted
my demise are dead, but that hasn't stopped me. I am still getting
even with them."
-Art Buchwald
|
6.98 | | ATSE::WAJENBERG | Party Reptile | Thu Oct 25 1990 16:12 | 3 |
| "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly."
-- G. K. Chesterton
|
6.99 | Albert's mystical side | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Once in a foogelbratz moon... | Fri Oct 26 1990 13:48 | 15 |
|
A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe,
a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself,
his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the
rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to
our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest
to us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening
our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and
the whole of nature in its beauty.
-- Albert Einstein
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6.100 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Oct 26 1990 16:07 | 6 |
|
"There is as much greatness of mind in acknowledging a good turn,
as in doing it."
-Seneca
|
6.101 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Once in a foogelbratz moon... | Fri Oct 26 1990 17:20 | 11 |
|
Jesus became a human being
because God the compassionate One
could not suffer
and lacked a back to be beaten.
God needed a back like our backs
on which to receive blows
and thereby perform compassion,
as well as to preach it.
-- Meister Eckhart
|
6.102 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Once in a foogelbratz moon... | Sat Oct 27 1990 15:22 | 10 |
|
The whole world and all creatures
will be to you nothing else
than an open book and a living Bible,
in which you may study,
without any previous instruction,
the science of God and from which
you may learn his will.
-- Sebastian Franck
|
6.103 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Sun Oct 28 1990 00:27 | 9 |
|
"With thinking we may be beside ourselves in a sane sense.
By a conscious effort of the mind we can stand aloof from
actions and their consequences; and all things good and
bad, go by like a torrent."
-Henry David Thoreau
|
6.104 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Mon Oct 29 1990 11:17 | 17 |
|
It is when people are not aware
of God's presence everywhere
that they must seek God by special methods
and special practices.
Such people have not attained God.
To all outward appearances
people who continue properly in their pious practices
are holy.
Inwardly, however, they are asses.
For they know about God,
but they do not know God.
-- Meister Eckhart
|
6.105 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Mon Oct 29 1990 14:13 | 13 |
|
Something is afoot in the universe, a result is working out
which can best be compared to gestation and birth: the birth
of a new spiritual reality formed by souls and the matter they
draw after them. Laboriously, by way of human activity and thanks
to it, the new earth is gathering, isolating and purifying itself.
No, we are not like the flowers in a bunch, but the leaves and
flowers of a great tree, on which each appears at its time
and place, according to the demands of the All.
-- Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
|
6.106 | | COOKIE::JANORDBY | The government got in again | Mon Oct 29 1990 14:47 | 8 |
|
You say that I contradict myself?
Very well, then, I contradict myself.
- Walt Whitman
;)
|
6.107 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Oct 29 1990 15:35 | 6 |
|
"The ultimate evil is to leave the company of the living
before you die."
-Seneca
|
6.108 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Don't note and drive. | Tue Oct 30 1990 01:09 | 5 |
| Any religion which professes to be concerned about the souls of men and
is not concerned about the social and economic conditions that can scar
the souls, is a spiritually moribund religion only waiting for the day
to be buried.
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.109 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Don't note and drive. | Tue Oct 30 1990 01:12 | 5 |
| Give justice to the weak and the orphan;
maintain the right of the lowly and the destitute.
Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
- Psalm 82:3-4
|
6.110 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Tue Oct 30 1990 12:46 | 9 |
|
How should one live? Live welcoming to all.
-- Mechtild of Magdeburg
(1210 - 1280. Mechtild was a Beguine most of her life
and became a third order Domincan. She consistently
attacked church corruption and was just as consistently
driven from town to town for her efforts.)
|
6.111 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Tue Oct 30 1990 12:59 | 7 |
|
When religion lost the cosmos, society became neurotic.
And we needed to invent psychology to deal with the
neurosis.
-- Otto Rank
|
6.112 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Tue Oct 30 1990 15:08 | 26 |
| I was hungry,
and you formed a humanities group to discuss my hunger.
I was imprisoned,
and you crept off to your chapel and prayed for my
release.
I was naked,
and in your mind you debated the morality of my appearance.
I was sick,
and you knelt and thanked God for your health.
I was homeless,
and you preached to me the spiritual shelter of the love of
God.
I was lonely,
and you left me alone to pray for me.
You seem so holy,so close to God,
But I am still very hungry - and lonely - and cold.
(written by a homeless woman whose name is not known)
Richard
|
6.113 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Oct 30 1990 15:43 | 6 |
|
"Is not because things are difficult that we do not dare to
attempt them, but they are difficult because we do not dare
to do so."
-Seneca
|
6.114 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Tue Oct 30 1990 17:11 | 4 |
| "Pharaseism is the occupational hazard of religious people."
- unknown
|
6.115 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Tue Oct 30 1990 17:11 | 3 |
| "God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!"
- unknown
|
6.116 | Not the Blue Oyster Cult either. (;^) | CGVAX2::PAINTER | And on Earth, peace... | Tue Oct 30 1990 18:16 | 23 |
|
Re.50 (Meyer)
Hi Dave,
Finally catching up! No, it is not the cult you are thinking of, nor
is it a cult at all.
I was at Kripalu Center in mid-September and it's alive and well and a
truly heavenly place to stay - did me wonders. (;^)
Yogi Amrit Desai was not in residence at the time, unfortunately - he
was lecturing in Italy. You know, I went to Kripalu being very
skeptical of a place which focused on a person...however they were
playing a video of one of his lectures in the lobby, and I was in awe
of him...truly so. Then I skipped over to the bookshop and started
reading some of his writings. While one event in my life 3.5 years ago
suddenly revealed the purpose of 2000 years of Western religious
history, being at Kripalu reading his books, taking yoga classes and
lots of other things, left me with the understanding of many thousands
of years of Eastern religious history as well.
Cindy
|
6.117 | More on silence | CGVAX2::PAINTER | And on Earth, peace... | Tue Oct 30 1990 18:27 | 4 |
|
"I like the silence of the church."
- Emerson
|
6.118 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Don't note and drive. | Wed Oct 31 1990 00:58 | 3 |
| "To help mend this world is true religion."
- William Penn
|
6.119 | Jesus | CSC32::LECOMPTE | The lost are always IN_SEASON | Wed Oct 31 1990 01:43 | 14 |
|
A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus
said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic
on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg or else he would
be the Devil of Hell. YOu must make your choice. Either this man was,
and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can
shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a Demon; or
you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord AND God. But let us not
come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human
teacher. He has not left that open to us.
-C.S. LEWIS-
|
6.120 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Wed Oct 31 1990 10:01 | 7 |
|
Those who would storm the heavenly heights by fierceness
and ascetic practices deceive themselves badly. Such people
carry grim hearts within themselves; they lack true humility
which alone leads the soul to God.
-- Mechtild of Magdeburg
|
6.121 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Wed Oct 31 1990 10:36 | 4 |
|
We are fellow workers with God.
-- 1 Cor. 3:9
|
6.122 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Oct 31 1990 15:55 | 5 |
|
"He who receives a benefit with gratitude, repays the first
installment on his debt."
-Seneca
|
6.123 | On the value of suffering | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | A Higher Calling | Wed Oct 31 1990 16:05 | 7 |
| "Suffering is the midwife of deepened trust. Suffering deprives
us of our ordinary illusion that we are in control of our lives.
Suffering knocks us off balance and allows trust to emerge. It
is the mystery of the cross: with the aid of suffering, trust can
be born."
Elaine M. Prevallet, quoted in _Weavings_ Sep-Oct 1990
|
6.124 | Some prophetic words from the Hebrew Bible | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note in rhythm. | Wed Oct 31 1990 22:47 | 31 |
| Is not this the fast that I choose:
to loose the bonds of injustice,
to undo the thongs of the yoke,
to let the oppressed go free,
and to break every yoke?
Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,
and bring the homeless poor into your house;
when you see the naked, to cover them,
and not to hide yourself from your own kin?
Isaiah 58:6-7
He has told you, O mortal, what is good;
and what does the LORD require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God?
Micah 6:8
I hate, I despise your festivals,
and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies.
Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and grain offerings,
I will not accept them;
and the offerings of well-being of your fatted animals
I will not look upon.
Take away from me the noise of your songs;
I will not listen to the melody of your harps.
But let justice roll down like waters,
and righteousness like an everflowing stream.
Amos 5:21-24
|
6.125 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Thu Nov 01 1990 10:26 | 7 |
|
"Compassion is the keen awareness of the interdependence
of all living things which are all part of one another
and involved in one another."
-- an observation Thomas Merton expressed 2 hours
before his death.
|
6.126 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Go now and do heart work... | Thu Nov 01 1990 10:30 | 5 |
|
"I want to know the mind of God.
The rest is all details."
-- Albert Einstein
|
6.127 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Feel the magic in his music...? | Fri Nov 02 1990 13:48 | 8 |
|
"The day of my spiritual awakening
was the day I saw
and knew I saw
all things in God
and God in all things."
-- Mechtild of Magdeburg
|
6.128 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note the night away. | Fri Nov 02 1990 15:13 | 19 |
| "While I can still enter imaginatively into the conservative-evangelical
thought world through which I once passed, and can appreciate and
respect the traditional orthodoxy which I once fully shared, I would
not now wish to return from the larger to a smaller vision. I can also
remember my own resentment at those who raised awkward questions which
might upset the established orthodoxy and can understand the similar
resentment obviously felt by some more traditional churchmen and
theologians today. But I believe that anyone either born or "born
again" into the conservative-evangelical thought world, and who has a
questioning mind, will find that he has to face challenges to the
belief system within which his Christian faith was first made available
to him, and that he will almost certainly be led by rational or moral
considerations to modify or discard many of its elements. The response
to Jesus Christ, as one's lord, and as one's savior from alienation
from God, may remain the same; but the body of theological theories
associated with it in one's mind will usually change, and surely ought
to change, in the light of further living, learning, and thinking."
- John Hick
|
6.129 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Nov 02 1990 16:40 | 11 |
|
A student asked the monk Joshu, "You are such a saintly person,
where do you think you will go when you die ?"
Joshu replied, "I shall be the first to go straight to hell."
"How can this be ?" Responded the student, clearly shaken
by the old monks response.
"If I do not get there first then there will be no one waiting
to help save other people when they arrive.", Joshu replied.
- A Zen Mondo
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6.130 | the mysticism of Walt Whitman | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Feel the magic in his music...? | Mon Nov 05 1990 09:58 | 16 |
|
Divine am I inside and out,
and I make holy whatever I touch
or am touched from.
Why should I wish to see God better than this day?
I see something of God each hour of the twenty-four,
and each moment then,
In the faces of men and women I see God,
and in my own face in the glass:
I find letters from God dropped in the street,
and every one is signed by God's name.
-- Walt Whitman
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6.131 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Nov 05 1990 16:01 | 7 |
|
"One of the illusions is that the present hour is not the critical,
decisive hour. Write it on you heart that everyday is the best
day of the year."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
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6.132 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Open the heart to enchantment | Tue Nov 06 1990 11:06 | 22 |
|
Why is it that some people
do not bear fruit?
It is because they are so busy
clinging to their egotistical attachments
and so afraid
of letting go and letting be
that they have no trust
either in God, or in themselves.
Love cannot distrust.
It can only await the good trustfully.
No person could ever trust God too much.
Nothing people ever do
is as appropriate as great trust in God.
With such trust,
God never fails to accomplish great things.
-- Meister Eckhart
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6.133 | | BTOVT::BEST_G | breathing the ghostland | Tue Nov 06 1990 13:03 | 7 |
|
"To him who suffers but not for love, to suffer is suffering and
hard to bear. But one who suffers for love suffers not, and his
suffering is fruitful in God's sight."
- Meister Eckhart
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6.134 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Nov 06 1990 15:40 | 6 |
|
"Blessed are they who have nothing to say, and who cannot
be persuaded to say it."
-James Russel Lowell
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6.135 | saints... | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Thu Nov 08 1990 09:02 | 13 |
| Saw this leafing through the 12-Nov-90 edition of _Newsweek_, from Kenneth
Woodward, author of _Making Saints_ (Simon & Schuster)
"What's important is not praying to saints, but telling their stories.
The story of a saint is always a love story."
Peace,
Jim
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6.136 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Thu Nov 08 1990 16:12 | 6 |
|
"No man is free who has not become master of himself."
-Epictetus
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6.137 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Open the heart to enchantment | Fri Nov 09 1990 09:49 | 23 |
|
History is dotted with situations in which an
oppressed people overcome their masters only to become
oppressors themselves.
Paulo Freire, the Brazilian educator who saw so
clearly the intrinsic relationship between education and
transformation points out that real freedom can never emerge
out of the unexamined struggle of the oppressed against the
oppressor, for in that struggle are only the seeds of a new
oppression.
Rather, we must recognize that the problem lies with the
nature of the struggle itself. In doing this, we circumscribe
both combatants and name the problem from a perspective that
includes the legitimate aspirations of both.
Oppressed and oppressor must each come to see the trap they
are in; they must see the whole wheel, not just their own spoke,
and rename it.
-- _Effective Teaching And Mentoring_ by Laurant Daloz
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6.138 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Nov 09 1990 15:07 | 7 |
|
"I will not control, or submit to, the means of oppression.
I will be neither, victim or executioner."
-Albert Camus
|
6.139 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Open the heart to enchantment | Sat Nov 10 1990 16:56 | 4 |
|
El Salvador is Spanish for Vietnam.
-- bumper sticker
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6.140 | | BSS::VANFLEET | Plunging into lightness | Sun Nov 11 1990 16:44 | 5 |
| "If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save
you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not
bring forth will destroy you."
The Gnostic Gospels
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6.141 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Open the heart to enchantment | Mon Nov 12 1990 09:53 | 25 |
| The following story is from a book called _In the Footsteps of
Gandhi_ edited by Catherine Ingram. It's a series of stories and
conversations with 12 spiritual social activists. The following
story is told by Mubarak Awad, a Palestinian pacifist, founder of the
Palestinian Center for the Study of Nonviolence in Jerusalem, and who
is now living in exile in the U.S.:
Mubarak: I am one of those people who reminds the Palestinians that
the Israeli is a human being. And we must see them, as well as
ourselves, as human beings. The more you destroy another human being
the more you destroy yourself.
One day a young Palestinian boy, maybe thirteen years old, came to me
crying. He was from one of the refugee camps and he had been
throwing stones at an Israeli soldier. Three times he had thrown
stones at the soldier and three times the soldier had beaten him up,
the third time quite badly. On the fourth time, the boy again threw
the stones and again the solidier chased him. When he was finally
caught by the soldier, the boy expected to be really severely beaten
this time, but instead the soldier hugged him. This boy came to me
weeping, angry, not understanding. He said to me, "He hugged me!"
I said to the boy, "That Israeli soldier was a human being."
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6.142 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Nov 13 1990 16:24 | 5 |
|
"What wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness ?"
-Jean Jaques Rousseau
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6.143 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Open the heart to enchantment | Tue Nov 13 1990 16:41 | 12 |
|
When one tries to effect change, one must go through
five stages:
First, people will greet you with indifference; next they
will ridicule you; then they will abuse you; next they
will put you in jail, or even try to kill you. If you go
through these four phases successfully, you will get to the
_most_ dangerous phase -- when people start respecting you.
Then you can become your own enemy unless you are careful.
-- Mahatma Gandhi
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6.144 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Open the heart to enchantment | Thu Nov 15 1990 14:50 | 6 |
|
Vocation is where the heart's deep gladness meets
the world's deep hunger.
-- Frederick Buechorer, theologian
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6.145 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Thu Nov 15 1990 15:18 | 7 |
|
"Everybody thinks of changing humanity and nobody thinks
of changing themselves."
-Leo Tolstoy
|
6.146 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Gandhi with the Wind | Thu Nov 15 1990 15:25 | 4 |
| "Everybody wants to be outstanding, but hardly anybody wants
to stand out."
-Patricia Spaulding
|
6.147 | | BSS::VANFLEET | Plunging into lightness | Thu Nov 15 1990 16:19 | 7 |
| "Life is a party to which you have been invited. Are you going to sit
on the sidelines or join in the dance?"
-I don't remember but I liked it anyway
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6.148 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Nov 19 1990 15:30 | 7 |
|
"Believe me, every man has his secret sorrows, which the world knows
not; and often times we call a man cold, when he is only sad."
-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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6.149 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Nov 20 1990 16:38 | 7 |
|
"We live in a world of misery and ignorance, and the plain duty
of each of us is to make the little corner of it that we can
influence somewhat less miserable and somewhat less ignorant
than it was before we entered it."
-Thomas Huxley
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6.150 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Nov 21 1990 15:22 | 6 |
|
"A thankful heart is not only the greatest virtue, but the parent
of all the other virtues."
-Cicero
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6.151 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Open the heart to enchantment | Mon Nov 26 1990 09:58 | 5 |
|
"If the only prayer you ever say is 'thank you',
that will suffice."
-- Meister Eckhart
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6.152 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Nov 26 1990 14:36 | 8 |
|
"Wise men, though all laws were abolished,
would lead the same lives."
-Aristophanes
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6.153 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Nov 27 1990 14:01 | 5 |
|
"While we are procrastinating, life speeds by."
-Seneca
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6.154 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Not by Might | Tue Nov 27 1990 16:22 | 4 |
| "What people really suffer from is immaturity. Among mature people
war would not be a problem - it would be impossible."
- Peace Pilgrim
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6.155 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Note with toes curled. | Tue Nov 27 1990 22:27 | 3 |
| Walk cheerfully, and answer to that of God in every one.
-- George Fox
|
6.156 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Dec 03 1990 20:47 | 5 |
|
"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind,
a disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Benedict Spinoza
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6.157 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Dec 04 1990 14:22 | 7 |
|
"Today is not yesterday; we ourselves change; how can our works
and thoughts, if they are always to be the fittest, continue always
the same ? Change, indeed, is painful; yet ever needful, and if
memory have its force and worth, so also has hope."
-Thomas Carlyle
|
6.158 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Dec 05 1990 16:57 | 6 |
|
"Make yourself an honest person, and then you you may be sure
that there is one less rascal in the world."
-Thomas Carlyle
|
6.159 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Dec 07 1990 15:19 | 5 |
|
"Many men would be cowards if they had courage enough."
-Thomas Fuller
|
6.160 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Dec 10 1990 13:51 | 5 |
|
"The more one judges, the less one loves."
-Honore de Balzac
|
6.161 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Dec 11 1990 13:30 | 6 |
|
"Know well that a hundred holy temples of wood and stone
have not the value of one understanding heart."
-Zoroaster
|
6.162 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Dec 12 1990 17:04 | 5 |
|
"Be not afraid of life. Believe that life is worth living and your
belief will help create the fact."
-William James
|
6.163 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Say your peace | Wed Dec 12 1990 18:29 | 15 |
| "How many eyes must one man have
before he sees the sky?
How many ears must one man have
before he can hear people cry?
How many deaths will it take before he knows
that too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.
The answer is blowing in the wind."
- Bob Dylan
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6.164 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Say your peace | Mon Dec 24 1990 14:51 | 3 |
| "If you don't do your own thinking, someone else will do it for you."
- Edward de Bono
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6.165 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Say your peace | Mon Dec 24 1990 16:50 | 14 |
| Eternity Within
The Truth lives within me
like a candle that never goes out.
It weaves itself through my being
like a thread without end.
The Truth is apart from myself
and yet it is within.
It is my spirit united with God's
Spirit;
constant, steady and certain.
Living forever.
Carolyn Hooper
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6.166 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Say your peace | Mon Dec 24 1990 17:58 | 17 |
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"And if everyone lit just one little candle what a bright
world this would be." - the Christophers
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6.167 | Peace be with you. Shlom. | CLOSUS::HOE | Daddy, what's transision? | Tue Dec 25 1990 13:28 | 3 |
| Let there be peace on the earth; let it begin with me.
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6.168 | Still seeking.. | CSCOAC::LANGDON_D | | Wed Jan 02 1991 15:07 | 8 |
|
Wise Men STILL Seek Him
(on a teeshirt we bought around Christmas,,but plan to wear
throughout the year!! )
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6.169 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Jan 02 1991 19:46 | 5 |
|
"I prefer to do right and get no thanks, rather than to do wrong
and get no punishment."
-Cato
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6.170 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Jan 08 1991 17:25 | 8 |
|
"The world is so empty if one thinks only of mountains, rivers
and cities; but to know that someone here and there who thinks
with us, and who, though distant, is close to us in spirit, this
makes the earth for us an inhabited garden."
-Goethe
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6.171 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Jan 09 1991 14:16 | 5 |
|
"First keep the peace within yourself, then you can also
bring peace to others."
-Thoms A. Kempis
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6.172 | | BSS::VANFLEET | closely resembling light | Wed Jan 09 1991 17:28 | 4 |
| "Never mistkae knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living, the
other helps you make a life."
-Sandra Carey
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6.173 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Thu Jan 10 1991 22:44 | 5 |
|
"Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is what
dies inside us while we live."
-Norman Cousins
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6.174 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Make love, not war. | Sat Jan 19 1991 18:59 | 25 |
| _The faith and practice of the Quakers_, by Rufus M. Jones,
1927, Methuen & Co. London, pp. 169
Nations are not thugs. They are bodies of intelligent people.
Their claims and causes and charges are either just or unjust.
They would practically never push their claims, causes and
charges to extreme issue if they were met with kindness,
intelligence and wisdom by the nation with whom they are in
dispute. In any case, fighting will not settle whether the
claims were just or unjust. It will only settle which nation
can mobilize and handle its fighting forces and its economic
forces the better. When the war ends, it will be found that
there was an equal amount of "thuggery" practiced on both
sides, that terrible things were done to force the final
victory. Multitudes of innocent persons will have suffered.
The little children of the two countries will be the main
victims. Lands will be made desolate. Social progress will be
arrested. The poor will be swamped with taxes for an entire
generation. The mutilated men will drag out a broken life to
the end of their days. A large part of the "facts" used to
arouse patriotism and to stir the fervour and the fierceness
of the fighting spirit will be discovered to have been
"propaganda". And yet not one single thing will have been done
to determine where right or justice or truth lay in the issues
involved.
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6.175 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Caretaker of Wonder | Mon Jan 21 1991 09:38 | 10 |
|
"No interfaith conversation is genuinely ecumenical
unless
the quality of mutual sharing and receptivity
is such that each party
makes him- or herself vulnerable to conversion
to the other's truth."
-- Kriser Standahl
|
6.176 | | WMOIS::REINKE | Hello, I'm the Dr! | Mon Jan 21 1991 10:54 | 13 |
| re: .175
I am reminded of Dr. Frank Laubach's first mission work, among the Moro
peoples of Mindanao, the Philippines. He was completely isolated and
unsuccessful until he asked the local muftis to "teach me the Koran".
This was the man, by the way, whose thesis done in Princeton was the
basis, I've heard, for Wilson's proposals regarding the League of
Nations. Laubach also created a world-wide movement for literacy and
late in his life would always have an inflatable globe - map of the
earth - which he would blow up as he lectured.
DR
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6.177 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Jan 22 1991 06:55 | 8 |
|
To conduct one's life as to realize oneself - this seems to me
the highest attainment possible to a human being. It is the task
of one and all of us, but most of us bungle it.
Mike
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6.178 | Something Like This | PCCAD1::RICHARDJ | Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection | Mon Jan 28 1991 10:21 | 4 |
|
"If you want peace in the world, then fight for justice."
Corita
|
6.179 | | GWYNED::YUKONSEC | sated hugs | Mon Jan 28 1991 11:48 | 4 |
|
Teach Peace
|
6.180 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Jan 28 1991 14:11 | 6 |
|
I would rather men should ask why no statue has been erected
in my honor, then why one has been.
-Cato
|
6.181 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Jan 29 1991 06:41 | 6 |
|
"It is only an error of judgment to make a mistake, but it
argues an infirmity of character to adhere to it when discovered."
-Christian Bovee
|
6.182 | Orwell on "War" | XANADU::FLEISCHER | Blessed are the peacemakers (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Tue Jan 29 1991 23:13 | 8 |
| "The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of
human lives, but of the products of human labor. War is a
way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking into the depths of the sea,
materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses
too comfortable and hence, in the long run, too intelligent."
- George Orwell, "1984"
|
6.183 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Jan 30 1991 06:27 | 7 |
|
"There is an idea abroad among moral people that they should make
their neighbors good. One person I have to make good: myself. But
my duty to my neighbor is much more nearly expressed by saying that
I have to make him happy - if I may."
-Robert Louis Stevenson
|
6.184 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Thu Jan 31 1991 06:54 | 11 |
|
"Are you in earnest ? Seize this very minute.
What you can do, or dream, you can begin it;
Boldness, has genius, power, and magic in it.
Only engage and the mind grows heated;
Begin and then the work will be completed."
-Goethe
|
6.185 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Feb 01 1991 07:17 | 5 |
|
"A smile is the shortest distance between two people"
-Victor Borge
|
6.186 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Create peace. | Fri Feb 01 1991 13:14 | 8 |
| The attempt to personalize theology demands that we think of theology
less as an academic discipline or endeavor, and of it more as an art
form. To put theology into the service of love, to personalize it, is
to reclaim it as a creative work of the people. My theology will be
revealed to the extent that I believe my theological task to be one of
artistry, to the extent that I believe myself to be an artist--of the
Spirit.
- Zoe White, "A Quaker Theology of Pastoral Care"
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6.187 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Mon Feb 04 1991 07:58 | 6 |
|
"To be able to argue, men must first understand each other."
-Honore de Balzac
|
6.188 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Tue Feb 05 1991 07:14 | 7 |
|
"They who are of the opinion that money will do everything,
may very well be suspected of doing everything for money."
-Sir George Savile
|
6.189 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Wed Feb 06 1991 11:21 | 7 |
|
"A scholar is a man with this inconvenience, when you ask his
opinion of any matter, he must go home and look it up in his
manuscripts to know."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
|
6.190 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Create peace. | Wed Feb 06 1991 22:46 | 5 |
| "Just as Christ abhors sin and loves the sinner, so we must stop the
war and support the warriors."
- From a statement by Conscious Youth, a Santa Fe, NM antiwar
organization
|
6.191 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Create peace. | Thu Feb 07 1991 12:31 | 24 |
| The following quotes were included in SCAWD Gulfwatch #7:
SCOTTISH CHURCH LEADERS AND OTHERS SPEAK
GulfWatch
"The obscenity of this war, quite apart from brutalities which are endemic
in any war, can also be seen in the vast sums of money poured into preparing
for, and sustaining the war effort." (+Thomas Winning, RC Archbishop of
Glasgow)
"In speaking against war, I am in the company not only of my fellow
Bishops in Scotland but also of our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II. Perhaps we
should remind ourselves of his words used at Coventry on his visit to Britain
eight years ago: `Today, the scale and horror of modern warfare - whether
nuclear or not - makes it totally unacceptable as a means of settling
differences between nations. War should belong to the tragic past, to history;
it should find no place on humanity's agenda for the future.'" (+Keith Patrick
O'Brien, RC Archbishop of Edinburgh)
"Let us look around for allies in our own society. It was so very
heartening to find the overwhelming support among every part of the community
when we spoke out for peace on 3 January. Those networks need to be
strengthened." (+Michael Hare Duke, Scot. Episc. Bishop of St.Andrews)
"We appeal to all the parties concerned to end armed hostilities and to
begin the process of dialogue and negotiation." (Quaker Peace & Service,
London)
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6.192 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's not what you think | Fri Feb 15 1991 06:34 | 6 |
|
"Do not learn by thinking, but rather
think by learning."
-Confucius
|
6.193 | more from Einstein... | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Fri Feb 15 1991 10:12 | 7 |
| "God does not care about our mathematical difficulties.
He integrates empirically."
Albert Einstein
|
6.194 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | | Mon Feb 18 1991 07:46 | 7 |
|
"I have a longing for life, and I go on living in spite of logic.
Though I may not believe in the order of the universe, yet I love
the little leaves that open in the Spring. I love the blue sky."
-Dostoevsky
|
6.195 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | | Tue Feb 19 1991 07:57 | 5 |
|
"In the ordinary business of life, industry can do anything that
genius can, and very many things which it cannot."
-Henry Ward Beecher
|
6.196 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Masterpeace | Tue Feb 19 1991 21:48 | 4 |
| "If God truly exists, then why can't we find him? And, if God doesn't
exist, then why can't we get rid of him?"
- from the play, _Echoes_
|
6.197 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | | Thu Feb 21 1991 06:36 | 5 |
|
"Don't waste yourself in rejection, nor bark against the bad,
but chant the beauty of the good."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
|
6.198 | | HEFTY::63508::MIKE | | Fri Feb 22 1991 08:24 | 5 |
|
"Censorship, like charity should begin at home; but unlike
charity, it should end there."
-Clare Boothe Luce
|
6.199 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | | Wed Feb 27 1991 10:16 | 5 |
|
"The only gift is a portion of thyself"
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
|
6.200 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Partaker of Wonder | Thu Feb 28 1991 13:10 | 8 |
|
"When we let go and allow ourselves to go beyond human words
and return to Dabhar as the Creative Energy of God, truth
happens, affection happens and God happens; for creation not
only exists, it also discharges truth and is a source of
revelation."
-- Gerhard Von Rad, Hebrew scriptures scholar
|
6.201 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | | Fri Mar 01 1991 06:57 | 9 |
|
"The society that scorns excellence in plumbing because it
is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy
because it is an exalted activity will have neither good
plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its
theories will hold water."
-John Gardner
|
6.202 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | N�te d'Azur | Fri Mar 01 1991 16:23 | 11 |
| "Arms are instruments of ill omen. ...
When one is compelled to use them, it is
best to do so without relish. There is no
glory in victory, and to glorify it despite
this is to exult in the killing of men. ...
When great numbers of people are killed,
one should weep over them with sorrow.
When victorious in war, one should observe
mourning rites."
Lao-tzu (ca. 500 B.C.)
|
6.203 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | | Mon Mar 04 1991 09:01 | 5 |
|
"Music is a revelation; a revelation loftier than all wisdom
and all philosophy."
-Ludwig van Beethoven
|
6.204 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | | Tue Mar 05 1991 08:15 | 6 |
|
"The block of granite which was an obstacle in the pathway of the
weak becomes a stepping stone in the pathway of the strong."
-Thomas Carlyle
|
6.205 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Partaker of Wonder | Tue Mar 05 1991 12:53 | 7 |
|
"But you who are strong and swift,
see that you do not limp before the lame,
deeming it kindness."
--Kahlil Gibran, _The Prophet_
|
6.206 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | | Thu Mar 07 1991 07:09 | 7 |
|
"Humor is a humanizing agent. We will accept almost any allegation
of our deficiencies - cosmetic, intellectual, virtuous - save one,
the charge that we have no sense of humor."
-Steve Allen
|
6.207 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | | Fri Mar 08 1991 10:32 | 6 |
|
"Endeavor to be patient in bearing the defects and infirmities
of others, of what sort so ever they be; for thou thyself also
hast many failings that must be borne with by others."
-Thomas A. Kempis
|
6.208 | | ATSE::FLAHERTY | A K'in(dred) Spirit | Fri Mar 08 1991 17:01 | 10 |
| Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired -
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are
not fed, those who are cold and who are not clothed. This world in
arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its
laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
This is not a way of life at all in any true sense, under the cloud of
war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
D. Eisenhower
|
6.209 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | | Tue Mar 12 1991 06:57 | 6 |
|
"We exaggerate both misfortune and happiness alike. We are never
either so wretched or so happy as we say we are."
-Honore de Balzac
|
6.210 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Mar 13 1991 07:05 | 18 |
|
"I have discovered that it is absolutely necessary to believe in
nothing. That is we have to believe in something that has no
form and no color - something which exists before all forms and
color appear. This is a very important point. No matter what god
or doctrine you believe in, if you become attached to it, your
belief will be based, more or less, on a self-centered idea.
You strive for perfect faith in order to save yourself. But it
will take time to attain such a perfect faith. You will be involved
in an idealistic practice. In constantly seeking to actualize your
ideal you will have no time for composure. But if you are always
prepared for accepting everything we see as something that appears
from nothing, knowing that there is some reason why a phenomenal
existence of such form and such color appears, then at that moment
you will have perfect composure."
-Shunryu Suzuki
|
6.211 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Mar 14 1991 07:08 | 11 |
|
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you
could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget
them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well
and serenely and with too high a sprit to be cumbered with your
old nonsense. The day is all that is good and fair. It is too
dear with its hopes and invitations to waste a moment
on yesteryears."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
|
6.212 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Mar 15 1991 07:01 | 11 |
|
"To hope is to risk pain and to try is to risk failure. But risk
must be taken because the greatest hazard in life is to risk
nothing. The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing
and is nothing. He may avoid suffering and sorrow, but he simply
cannot learn, feel, change, grow, live or love. Chained by his
certitudes or addictions, he's a slave. He has forfeited his
greatest trait, and that is his individual freedom. Only the
person who risks is free."
-Leo Buscaglia
|
6.213 | | POLAR::WOOLDRIDGE | | Fri Mar 15 1991 12:33 | 7 |
|
Like a wind, love is eternal.
bill
|
6.214 | on Liberty | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Fri Mar 15 1991 14:41 | 13 |
| A young brave wanted to know what liberty was, so he went out and found Eagle.
"What is Liberty?" he asked.
Eagle flew up until it was only a speck high in the sky, folded it's wings,
and plummetted to earth, diving until it was only a few feet above the rocks.
Spreading its wings, Eagle skimmed over the rocks, slowed and landed next to
the brave.
"I an a prisoner of the Air, that is my Liberty."
--a Native American Indian tale
|
6.215 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Plus �a note | Mon Mar 18 1991 00:06 | 10 |
| "There is a Spirit that is everywhere, in and part of all things, like
salt in the sea. In my heart, it is smaller than a mustard seed,
smaller than the kernel of a canary seed. In my heart it is also
larger than all Earth, larger than the sky and heaven, larger than
everything that is.
"From this Spirit, come all sweet smells and tastes, all good deeds and
wishes. It is quiet, intelligent, true, unsurprised."
The Upanishads c.700 B.C.
|
6.216 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Plus �a note | Mon Mar 18 1991 00:10 | 10 |
| The highest truths are but half-truths,
Think not to settle down for ever in any truth.
Make use of it as a tent in which to pass a summer night,
But build no house of it, or it will be your tomb.
When you first have an inkling of its insufficiency
And begin to descry a dim counter-truth looming beyond
Then weep not, but give thanks;
It is the Lord's voice whispering 'Take up thy bed and walk'.
A.J. Balfour
|
6.217 | | POLAR::WOOLDRIDGE | | Mon Mar 18 1991 05:38 | 10 |
|
You can give without love.
But you can't love without giving.
Christ, the light in the world.
Bill
|
6.218 | | HEFTY::63508::MIKE | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Mar 18 1991 07:22 | 5 |
|
"By nothing do men show their character more than by the
things they laugh at."
-Goethe
|
6.219 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Mar 19 1991 07:37 | 5 |
| "There is no good in arguing with the inevitable. The only
argument available with the east wind is to put on
your overcoat."
-James Russel Lowell
|
6.220 | Love and Pain | FAVAX::NSMITH | Passionate commitment/reasoned faith | Tue Mar 19 1991 08:41 | 9 |
|
Love is more than simply being open to experiencing the anguish of
another person's suffering. It is the willingness to live with the
helpless knowing that we can do nothing to save the other from his
pain.
--Sheldon B. Kopp in
If You Meet the Buddha on the Road, Kill Him!
|
6.221 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Sic transit gloria notei. | Tue Mar 19 1991 15:23 | 7 |
| Christians have a choice between following the supertanker,
fly-the-flag, support-the-president, holy-war Jesus of Robert
Schuller, Pat Robertson, Billy Graham and Bill Bright, or the
end-oppression, condemn-idolatry, love-the-poor and make-peace-
by-peace Jesus of Moses, Elijah, Isaiah and Mary.
-- John Stoner, Mennonite Central Committee Peace Office
|
6.222 | | XLIB::JACKSON | Collis Jackson | Tue Mar 19 1991 16:20 | 8 |
|
There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under heaven:
a time for war and a time for peace
Ecclesiastes 3:1,8
|
6.223 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Sic transit gloria notei. | Tue Mar 19 1991 16:55 | 7 |
| While we are becoming so enamored and consumed by the Star Wars
technology, it is urgent that world focus on the incredible needs
of the civilian casualties. It is, to us, a monumental crime that
with a billion dollars being spent a day on this activity, the people
who are taking the most severe blows are women and children.
-- Tom Getman, World Vision
|
6.224 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Mar 20 1991 07:32 | 12 |
|
"My eyes saw what no person should witness. Gas chambers built
by learned engineers. Children poisoned by educated physicians.
Infants killed by trained nurses. Woman and babies shot and
killed by high school and college graduates. So, I am suspicious
of education. My request is: help your students to be human.
Your efforts must never produce learned monsters, skilled
psychopaths or educated Eichmanns. Reading, writing and spelling
and history are only important if they serve to make our
students human."
- A Concentration Camp Survivor
|
6.225 | | SA1794::63508::MIKE | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Mar 21 1991 07:20 | 7 |
|
"Man's capacities have never been measured; nor are we to judge
of what he can do by any precedents, so little has been tried."
-Henry David Thoreau
|
6.226 | OK, let's lighten this up a little! :>) :>) | SED002::COLE | Profitability is never having to say you're sorry! | Thu Mar 21 1991 21:08 | 3 |
| "Some days I'm the bug, some days I'm the windshield."
Grimm (in Mike Peters' "Mother Goose and Grimm")
|
6.227 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Mar 22 1991 07:46 | 6 |
|
"You never have to change anything that you got up in
the middle of the night to write."
-Saul Bellow
|
6.228 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Mar 25 1991 07:25 | 6 |
|
"There are but two powers in the world, the sword and the mind.
In the long run the sword is always beaten by the mind."
-Napoleon Bonaparte
|
6.229 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Mar 26 1991 07:37 | 5 |
|
"The difference between landscapes is small, but there is a
great difference in the beholders."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
|
6.230 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Mar 27 1991 14:35 | 6 |
|
"The proper office of a friend is to side with you when you are
wrong. Nearly anybody will side with you when you are right."
-Mark Twain
|
6.231 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Brother Richard (:-}>+- | Wed Mar 27 1991 16:11 | 7 |
| "Sometimes I think the whole world would be better off had
Noah missed the boat."
"When the church and state agree there's probably something wrong
with the church."
-Mark Twain
|
6.232 | | CSC32::M_VALENZA | Voulez-vous noter avec moi? | Thu Mar 28 1991 17:44 | 32 |
| The history of European thought, even to the present day, has been
tainted by a fatal misunderstanding. It may be termed The Dogmatic
Fallacy. The error consists in the persuasion that we are capable of
producing notions which are adequately defined in respect to the
complexity of relationship required for their illustration in the real
world. Canst thou by searching describe the Universe? Except perhaps
for the simpler notions of arithmetic, even our more familiar ideas,
seemingly obvious, are infected with this incurable vagueness. Our
right understanding of the methods of intellectual progress depends on
keeping in mind this characteristic of our thoughts. The notions
employed in every systematic topic require enlightenment from the
perspective of every standpoint. They must be criticized from the
standpoint of their own internal consistency within that topic, and
from the standpoint of other topics of analogous generality, and from
the standpoint of so-called philosophic topics with a wider range.
During the medieval epoch in Europe, the theologians were the chief
sinners in respect to dogmatic finality. During the last three
centuries, their bad preeminance in this habit passed to the men of
science. Our task is to understand how in fact the human mind can
successfully set to work for the gradual definition of its habitual
ideas. It is a step by step process, achieving no triumphs of
finality. We cannot produce that final adjustment of well-defined
generalities which constitute a complete metaphysics. But we can
produce a variety of partial systems of limited generality. The
concordance of ideas within any one such system shows the scope and
virility of the basic notions of that scheme of thought. Also the
discordance of system with system, and success of each system as a
partial mode of illumination, warns us of the limitations within which
our intuitions are hedged. The undiscovered limitations are the
topics for philosophic research.
- Alfred North Whitehead
|
6.233 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Mar 29 1991 07:59 | 6 |
|
"The things our friends do with and for us, form a portion of
our lives: for they strengthen and advance our personality."
-Goethe
|
6.234 | from Good Friday messages | FAVAX::NSMITH | rises up with eagle wings | Sat Mar 30 1991 13:14 | 32 |
| Quotes from Good Friday services in the Boston area as reported in the
newspaper:
I
"We learn laboriously that there is but one way to begin to understand
the pain of another and that is to listen....There is no way to talk
ourselves into the heart of your selfless agony today. It's no good
busying ourselves... There is stillness at the foot of the cross. We
will stand beside the unthinkable, stand in the very heart of the
shadow. And do nothing, say nothing."
-- Rev. Richard E. Spalding
United Church of Christ - Presbyterian
II
Sister Linda Blessom, justice coordinator for the Sisters of Notre
Dame, urged the congregation to "proclaim and practice ... solidarity
with the crucified of this world" not only through compassion but
through "taking up the cause of their liberation."
III
"The mystery of the Passion is that nobody is totally responsible. The
tragedy of evil is that Satan weaves together little acts of faithlessness
and cowardice."
Jesus' final words, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit," is a
prayer of trust. "Whenever things are difficult and hard to figure
out, this is the prayer: Into *thy* hands."
-- Rev. Krister Stendahl
King's Chapel
|
6.235 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Apr 01 1991 08:49 | 6 |
|
"The secret of happiness is not in doing what one likes, but in
liking what one has to do."
-James Barrie
|
6.236 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 02 1991 09:56 | 6 |
|
"The only way to have a friend is to be one."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
|
6.237 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Let the Spirit muse you! | Thu Apr 04 1991 15:35 | 10 |
|
"Religious experience does not need rational proof or
substantiation. No matter what the world thinks about religious
experiences, the one who has it posseses the great treasure of a thing
that has provided him (sic) with a source of life, meaning, and beauty
and that has given a new splendor to the world and to mankind.
Religious experience is absolute. It is indisputable."
-- C.G.Jung, _Psychology and Religion_
|
6.238 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Apr 05 1991 12:19 | 8 |
|
"Life is short, and we never have too much time for gladdening the
the hearts of those who are traveling this dark journey with us.
Oh, be swift to love, make haste to be kind !"
- Henri-Fredrick Amiel
|
6.239 | A Prayer of Discipleship | LJOHUB::NSMITH | rises up with eagle wings | Fri Apr 05 1991 21:29 | 31 |
|
"Send me."
But where, Lord? To do what?
To bring pardon where there had been injury in a life I casually brush
against at my daily work? (But I had thought of mediating a teenage
gang war in Chicago!)
To help turn doubt into faith in a person with whom I live intimately
in my circle of family or friends? (But I had thought of helping a
tired drunk on skid row!)
To bring joy into a life, consumed by sadness, which touches the hem of
my life at a drinking fountain? (But I had thought only of a far-off
mission land!)
"Send me." Send me next door, into the next room, to speak somehow to
a human heart beating alongside mine. Send me to bear a note of
dignity into a subhuman, hopeless situation. Send me to show forth joy
in a moment and a place where there is otherwise no joy but only the
will to die.
Send me to reflect your light in the darkness of futility, mere
existence, and the horror of casual human cruelty. But give me your
light, too, Lord, in my own darkness and need.
from _Are You Running with Me, Jesus?_
by Malcolm Boyd
|
6.240 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 09 1991 09:13 | 6 |
|
"It is easy to utter what has been kept silent, but impossible
to recall what has been uttered."
-Plutarch
|
6.241 | | LJOHUB::NSMITH | rises up with eagle wings | Wed Apr 10 1991 13:42 | 3 |
| People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.
[heard on the radio this AM]
|
6.242 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Apr 15 1991 13:55 | 9 |
|
"Use well the moment; what the hour
Brings for thy use is in thy power;
And what thou best canst understand
Is the thing lies nearest to thy hand."
-Goethe
|
6.243 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Apr 17 1991 08:49 | 6 |
|
"Everywhere in life, the true question is not what we gain,
but what we do."
-Thomas Carlyle
|
6.244 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Uncomplacent Peace | Wed Apr 17 1991 23:00 | 3 |
| "When in doubt, tell the truth."
- Benjamin Franklin
|
6.245 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Apr 18 1991 09:18 | 9 |
|
"Life is a tender thing and easily molested. There is always
something that goes amiss. Vain vexations - vain sometimes,
but always vexations. The smallest and slightest impediments
are the most piercing; as little letters most tire the eye,
so do little affairs most disturb us."
-Michel Montaigne
|
6.246 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Let the Spirit muse you! | Thu Apr 18 1991 11:31 | 15 |
|
Religious experience does not need rational proof or
substantiation. Religious experience is absolute. It is
indisputable. No matter what the world thinks about religious
experience, the one who has it possesses the great treasure of
a thing that has provided him (sic) with a source of life, meaning,
and beauty and that has given a new splendor to the world and to
(hu)mankind.
And if such experience helps to make your life healthier, more
beautiful, more complete, and more satisfactory to yourself and to
those you love, you may safely say: 'This was the grace of God'.
-- C. G. Jung
|
6.247 | The Light | ATSE::FLAHERTY | A K'in(dred) Spirit | Thu Apr 18 1991 13:46 | 8 |
| ...my life had been the lesson
chosen by me
for to purify my thought that I may be
worthy to shine forth the Light --
the Light ...
Donovan Leitch
|
6.248 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Apr 22 1991 09:46 | 6 |
|
"Our grand business undoubtedly is, not to see what lies dimly
at a distance, but to do what lies clearly at hand."
-Thomas Carlyle
|
6.249 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 23 1991 08:58 | 8 |
|
"Fill my hour, ye gods, so that I may not say whilst I have
done this, "Behold, also an hour of my life is gone - but
rather, "I have lived an hour."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
|
6.250 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 30 1991 08:59 | 11 |
|
"I believe that only one person in a thousand knows the trick of
living in the present. Most of us spend 59 minutes of an hour
living in the past with regrets for lost joys, or shame for
things badly done, both utterly useless and weakening, or in the
future which we either long for or dread. The only way to live
is to accept each minute as an unrepeatable miracle, which is
exactly what it is - a miracle and unrepeatable."
-Storm Jameson
|
6.251 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Drum till you drop | Tue Apr 30 1991 10:04 | 6 |
|
"Whoso loveth God truly
must not expect to be loved by Him in return."
-- Spinoza
|
6.252 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed May 01 1991 09:05 | 6 |
|
"A benefit consists not in what is done or given, but in the
intention of the giver or the doer."
-Seneca
|
6.253 | | DEMING::VALENZA | Note while you sing. | Thu May 02 1991 20:59 | 9 |
| "The lives and the deaths of our homeless sisters and brothers are a
powerful prophetic voice in our midst. They are a statement of anger,
of condemnation, of judgment. They are also a statement of hope: hope
that all who hear may be angered, may enter into the experience of
suffering and condemnation, may reflect upon the sources of misery, may
act to crush the structures that are crushing our sisters and brothers,
our children, or souls."
Mary Scullion
|
6.254 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue May 07 1991 10:00 | 18 |
|
"In some way, however, small and secret, each of us is a little
mad...Everyone is lonely at the bottom and cries to be understood;
but we can never entirely understand someone else, and each of
remains part stranger even to those who love us.
It is the weak who are cruel; gentleness is only to be expected
from the strong. Those who do not know fear are not really brave,
for courage is the ability to confront what can be imagined.
You can understand people better if you look at them, no matter
how old and impressive they might be, as if they were children.
For most of us never mature; we simply grow taller. Happiness only
comes when we push our hearts and brains to the farthest reaches
of which we are capable. The purpose of life is to matter - to
count for something, to stand for something, to have it make some
difference that we have lived."
-Leo Rosten
|
6.255 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed May 08 1991 09:09 | 9 |
|
"You know I don't believe that anyone has ever taught anything
to anyone. I question the efficacy of teaching. The only thing
I know is that a person who wants to learn will learn. And maybe
a teacher is a facilitator, a person who puts things down and
shows people how exciting and wonderful it is and asks them to eat."
-Carl Rogers
|
6.256 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu May 09 1991 09:23 | 14 |
|
"Man must see that nothing really is, but that everything is always
becoming and changing. Nothing stands still. Everything is being
born, growing and dying. The very instant a thing reaches its height
it begins to decline. The law of rhythm is in constant operation.
There is no reality. There is no enduring quality, fixtiy or
substantiality in anything. Nothing is permanent but change. Man
must see all things evolving from other things and resolving him to
other things, an constant action and reaction, inflow or outflow,
building up or tearing down, creation or destruction, birth and
growth and death. Nothing is real, and nothing endures but change."
From: The Kabala
|
6.257 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Proud Sponsor FAWoL | Thu May 16 1991 20:08 | 4 |
| "I'd rather go to your Hell with my God shining brightly within my soul,
than to your Heaven of judgment and finger-pointing."
- A favorite saying of a friend
|
6.258 | | 19358::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon May 20 1991 12:10 | 6 |
|
"The one serious conviction a man should have is that nothing
should be taken too seriously"
-Nicholas Butler
|
6.259 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue May 21 1991 11:56 | 5 |
|
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you
are the easiest person to fool."
-Richard Feynman
|
6.260 | | JURAN::VALENZA | Oh no, I've said too much. | Tue May 21 1991 21:44 | 27 |
| "The mode of relation to God which has been in the center of attention
is, in Whitehead's terminology, the derivation by every occasion of
experience of its initial aim from God. Whitehead speaks of that in God
which is the source of this aim as his primordial nature. But he argues
that in God there is also a consequent nature. Just as with every
occasion of experience there is not only an influence upon the subsequent
world, but also, in its own becoming, the influence of the prior world
upon it, so also in God. Not only does God influence the every occasion
of experience, but also, he is in turn affected by each. He takes up
into himself the whole richness of each experience, synthesizing its
values with all the rest and preserving them everlastingly in the
immediacy of his own life. Even the miseries and failures of life are
so transmuted in the divine experience as to redeem all that can be
redeemed.
"The Christian not understands his faith as a continual challenge to do
and dare, to take responsibility upon himself, and to venture out
beyond the limits laid down by the past; he also finds in his faith the
grounds for confidence that what happens matters. Regardless of how
ephemeral the joys and sorrows of life, his own and those of others,
they are not trivial or insignificant. Even if man destroys his planet
in the near future, our efforts now to preserve it are not worthless.
Because what we are and do matters to God, our lives are meaningful even
when we recognize that in the course of history our accomplishments may
soon be swept away."
John Cobb, Jr.
God and the World (pp. 83-84)
|
6.261 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed May 22 1991 09:08 | 7 |
|
"Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto
you. Their tastes may not be the same."
-George Bernard Shaw
|
6.262 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu May 23 1991 09:53 | 5 |
|
"Do not fear death so much, but rather the inadequate life"
-Bertolt Brecht
|
6.263 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri May 24 1991 09:36 | 5 |
|
"People will accept your idea much more readily if you tell
them that Benjamin Franklin said it first."
-David Comins
|
6.264 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue May 28 1991 09:31 | 6 |
|
"Gullibility is the key to all adventures. The greenhorn is
the ultimate victor in everything; it is he who gets the
most out of life."
G.K. Chesterton
|
6.265 | passed my way... | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Tue May 28 1991 14:37 | 4 |
| "A great many people think they are thinking
when they are merely re-arranging their prejudices."
William James
|
6.266 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed May 29 1991 16:43 | 6 |
|
"When you arrive at a fork in the road, take it."
-Yogi Berra
|
6.267 | ;-) | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Human | Tue Jun 04 1991 22:56 | 3 |
| "Following inner promptings brings quiet accomplishment"
- from a fortune cookie
|
6.268 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Jun 06 1991 09:42 | 8 |
|
A student asked Joshu, "Who is the Buddha ?"
Joshu looked at the student and replied, "Who are you ?"
-Zen Mondo
|
6.269 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Jun 18 1991 09:11 | 6 |
|
"The purpose of life consists of determining what you have
to offer the world and then making that offering valid."
-Thomas Merton
|
6.270 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | El Gallo de Paz | Fri Jun 21 1991 19:40 | 4 |
| "I'm just soul whose intentions are good;
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood."
-- The Animals
|
6.271 | Quoth the Spirit, "NO!" | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | El Gallo de Paz | Mon Jun 24 1991 17:33 | 7 |
| "NO is the articulate, valiant, pristine, unmistakable, primary,
reliable, sane and preferred word of the Spirit, spoken to all who would
be powerbrokers, to all who would make themselves gods. NO is the
Spirit's word to war-making super-states. Our worhip must echo it; it
is the beginning of subversion."
- Fr. Daniel Berrigan
|
6.272 | The Spirit comes | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | El Gallo de Paz | Mon Jun 24 1991 18:52 | 6 |
| "To each and all, the Spirit is offered. To whatever in each
of us is most in need of a healing embrace, to whatever is most fragile,
dispirted, opaque, sterile, withheld, irascible, cramped, unlovely and
unlovable - to that the Spirit comes."
- Daniel Berrigan, sj
|
6.273 | Tribute to the people of the Spirit | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | El Gallo de Paz | Mon Jun 24 1991 23:35 | 9 |
| "Let us pay tribute to the people of the Spirit in our midst,
the Joels, the dreamers and visionaries, young and old. Those who hold
fast to ideals and noble work, when literally nothing comes of their
best efforts. Those who are not victimized by the cult and fashion of
results, proofs, justifications, outcomes, efficiencies. Those who
hold on and hold out, sensible of the goodness and truthfulness of the
thing to be done."
- Daniel Berrigan, poet, filmmaker.
|
6.274 | my prayer as well | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Hooked on curiousity | Wed Jun 26 1991 11:52 | 12 |
|
If I worship you in order to avoid hell,
then cast me into hell.
If I worship you to obtain paradise,
then bar me from paradise.
But if I worship you simply in and of yourself,
then reveal to me the loveliness of your face.
-- Rabia, a Sufi poetess
|
6.275 | Revelation 1:13-16 | LEDS::LOPEZ | ...A River...bright as crystal | Wed Jun 26 1991 13:35 | 14 |
|
And in the midst of the lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed
with a garment reaching to the feet, and girded about at the breasts with a
golden girdle; And His head and hair were white as white wool, as snow; and
His eyes as a flame of fire; And His feet were like shining brass, as having
been fired in a furnace; and His voice as the sound of many waters; And He had
in His right hand seven stars; and out of His mouth proceeded a sharp two-edged
sword; and His face was as the sun shines in its power.
John seeing the resurrected, ascended, and enthroned Christ
as He cares for the churches
|
6.276 | | BSS::VANFLEET | mm-mM-MM!!!! | Wed Jun 26 1991 16:25 | 7 |
| "Sometimes it takes a rainy day
just to let you know
everything's gonna be all right."
Chris Williamson
Nanci
|
6.277 | On commitment | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | El Gallo de Paz | Wed Jun 26 1991 22:54 | 28 |
| "Until one is committed
there is hesitancy, the chance to draw back,
always ineffectiveness.
Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation)
there is one elementary truth,
the ignorance of which kills countless ideas
and splendid plans:
the moment one definitely commits oneself,
then Providence moves too.
All sorts of things occur to help one
that would otherwise never have occurred.
A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner
of unforeseen incidents and meetings
and material assistance,
which no man could have dreamed
would have come his way.
I have learned a deep respect
for one of Goethe's couplets:
'Whatever you can do, or dream you can...begin it.
Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.'"
W.N. Murray
The Scottish Himalayan Expedition, 1951
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6.278 | They're coming to take me away!!!
They're coming to take me away! | BSS::VANFLEET | Ring around the moon... | Thu Jun 27 1991 17:39 | 7 |
| Before I make this comment I must apologize for my irreverance! :-)
Re -1 The first line really struck a chord in me. I've always been hesitant
about being committed! :-)
Nanci
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6.279 | Revelation 1:4-5a | LEDS::LOPEZ | ...A River...bright as crystal | Fri Jun 28 1991 13:59 | 11 |
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Grace to you and peace from Him who is, and who was, and who is coming,
and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ,
the faithful Witness, the Firstborn of the dead, and the Ruler of the kings of
the earth.
John sending grace and peace to the local churches
*from* God, the sevenfold intensified Spirit, and
the Son (a.k.a the Triune God)
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6.280 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Jul 08 1991 13:25 | 6 |
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"Our true home is not in a house, but on the open road. This is
because our life is journey that we make on foot."
-Bruce Chatwin
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6.281 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Jul 09 1991 08:57 | 10 |
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"If I had my life to live over again, I would have made it a rule
to read some poetry and listen to some music at least once a week;
for perhaps the parts of my brain now atrophied would thus have been
kept active through use. The loss of these tastes is a loss of
happiness, and may be possibly injurious to the intellect, and more
probably to the moral character, by enfeebling the emotional part
of our nature."
-Charles Darwin
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6.282 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Jul 10 1991 10:36 | 11 |
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"Existence is beyond the power of words to describe. Terms may be
used, but none of them are absolute. In the beginning of heaven and
earth there were no words. Words come out of the womb of matter.
And whether a man dispassionately sees the core of life or
passionately sees the surface, the core and the surface are the same,
words making them seem different only to express appearance. If a
name be needed, let the name be wonder, and then from wonder to
wonder, existence opens."
-Lao Tzu
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6.283 | | MLTVAX::DUNNE | | Wed Jul 10 1991 14:48 | 3 |
| To know and not to do is not really to know.
Buddhist saying
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6.284 | James 4:17 | CSC32::LECOMPTE | MARANATHA! | Thu Jul 11 1991 02:28 | 5 |
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Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not,
to him it is SIN.
James the Brother of Jesus
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6.285 | I hear there are 2 more verses... | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Thu Jul 11 1991 10:14 | 16 |
| I thought there was a topic for "national religions", but I couldn't find it.
So I'll put this here, as inspirational, I do find it inspirational, not in
the message itself, but in how I look and see what's happening in the world,
and my country of origin's place in it. The *second* verse of our National
Anthem...
O thus be ever, when free-men shall stand
between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
and this be our motto, "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Francis Scott Key 1779-1843
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6.286 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Jul 16 1991 11:50 | 6 |
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"You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist"
-Indira Ghandi
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6.287 | | NYTP07::LAM | Q ��Ktl�� | Tue Jul 16 1991 13:11 | 7 |
| I saw this sign hanging in a doctor's office the other day...
Brilliant people talk about ideas.
Average people talk about things.
Small people talk about other people.
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6.288 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Jul 19 1991 09:04 | 5 |
|
"A Rabbi whose congregation doesn't want to run him out of
town in not much of a Rabbi."
-Haddasic Proverb
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6.289 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Jul 22 1991 12:24 | 10 |
|
"The best advice I have ever received was from a very old courtier
who was one I my tutors when I was young. He told me that if I
wished to be happy in life I should never pass up any opportunity
to rest my feet or pass water."
-Prince Phillip
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6.290 | kiss | CSC32::LECOMPTE | MARANATHA! | Tue Jul 23 1991 07:40 | 4 |
| "Blessed is the man, who, having nothing to say, abstains
from giving wordy evidence of the fact"
(Author unknown)
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6.291 | | MLTVAX::DUNNE | | Tue Jul 23 1991 17:31 | 4 |
| If thou shouldst fail only in capability and not in intention,
verily thou hast done all in the sight of God.
Meister Eckart
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6.292 | | JURAN::VALENZA | PhermoNoter. | Tue Jul 30 1991 23:28 | 5 |
| "If we consider philosophical controversies, we shall find that
disputants tend to require coherence from their adversaries, and to
grant dispensations to themselves."
- Alfred North Whitehead
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6.293 | | WMOIS::REINKE | Hello, I'm the Dr! | Wed Jul 31 1991 12:56 | 3 |
| United in the strife that divided them.
T. S. Eliot
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6.294 | | WILLEE::FRETTS | I'm part of you/you're part of me | Mon Aug 05 1991 14:36 | 6 |
|
"[Christ is coming] in the hungry man, in the lonely man, in the
homeless child, and seeking for shelter."
Mother Theresa
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6.295 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Centerpeace | Mon Aug 05 1991 22:56 | 4 |
| "World peace through non-violence is neither absurd nor unattainable. All
other methods have failed. Thus we must begin anew."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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6.296 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Centerpeace | Mon Aug 05 1991 22:56 | 4 |
| "Wars, conflict; it's all business. One murder makes a villain.
Millions a hero. Numbers sanctify."
- Charles Chaplin
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6.297 | Whitehead on the fallacy of logical positivism | JURAN::VALENZA | Notes floozy. | Tue Aug 06 1991 15:00 | 35 |
| ...the main objection [to philosophic speculation], dating from the
sixteenth century and receiving final expression from Francis Bacon, is
the uselessness of philosophic speculation. The position taken by this
objection is that we ought to describe detailed matter of fact, and
elicit the laws with a generality strictly limited to the systematization
of these described details. General interpretation, it is held, has no
bearing upon this procedure; and thus any system of general
interpretation, be it true or false, remains intrinsically barren.
Unfortunately for this objection, there are no brute, self-contained
matters of fact, capable of being understood apart from interpretation
as an element in a system. Whenever we attempt to express the matter of
immediate experience, we find that its understanding leads us beyond
itself, to its contemporaries, to its past, to its future, and to the
universals in terms of which its definiteness is exhibited. But such
universals, by their very character of universality, embody the
potentiality of other facts with variant types of definiteness. Thus
the understanding of the immediate brute fact requires its metaphysical
interpretation as an item in a world with some systematic relation to
it. When thought comes upon the scene, it finds the interpretations as
matters of practice. Philosophy does not initiate interpretations. Its
search for a rationalistic scheme is the search for more adequate
criticism, and for more adequate justification, of the interpretations
which we perforce employ. Our habitual experience is a complex of
failure and success in the enterprise of interpretation. If we desire a
record of uninterpreted experience, we must ask a stone to record its
autobiography. Every scientific memoir in its record of the 'facts' is
shot through and through with interpretation. The methodology of
rational interpretation is the product of the fitful vagueness of
consciousness. Elements which shine with immediate distinctness, in
some circumstances, retire into penumbral shadow in other circumstances,
and into black darkness on other occasions. And yet all occasions
proclaim themselves as actualities within the flux of a solid world,
demanding a unity of interpretation.
- Alfred North Whitehead, "Process and Reality", pp 21-22
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6.298 | | JURAN::VALENZA | Notes floozy. | Tue Aug 06 1991 15:01 | 8 |
| "I continue to believe with all my mind and heart that the death
penalty will not help us but will debase us; that it will not protect
us but will make us weaker. We should refuse to allow this time to be
marked forever in the pages of history as the time that we were not
strong enough, not intelligent enough, not civilized enough to find a
better answer to violence than violence."
Mario Cuomo
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6.299 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | sweet smells of summertime | Tue Aug 06 1991 20:44 | 12 |
|
"If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people
somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it
were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us
and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts
through the heart of every human being. And who is willing
to destroy a piece of their own heart?"
-- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
from: _Meeting the Shadow_
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6.300 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | surrender to love | Sun Aug 18 1991 13:36 | 10 |
|
"Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and
try to love the questions themselves like locked rooms
or books that are written in a foreign tongue. The point
is to live everything. *Live* the questions now. Perhaps
you will then gradually, without noticing it, live your
way some distant day into the answers."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke
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6.301 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | surrender to love | Tue Aug 20 1991 10:38 | 7 |
|
"God is both mother and father, but God is more mother
than father."
-- Pope John Paul I, a pronouncement he made
shortly before his sudden death.
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6.302 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Aug 27 1991 08:40 | 5 |
|
"We all agree your theory is crazy, but is it crazy enough ?"
Niels Bohr to
Wolfgang Pauli
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6.303 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Aug 28 1991 08:41 | 5 |
|
"The reverse side also has a reverse side"
-Zen Proverb
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6.304 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Aug 29 1991 08:42 | 6 |
|
"A man's worst enemies can't wish on him what he can
think up himself."
-Yiddish Proverb
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6.305 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Aug 30 1991 08:28 | 5 |
|
"We are here and it is now. Further than that all human
knowledge is moonshine."
-H.L. Mencken
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6.306 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Sep 03 1991 08:51 | 9 |
|
A member of his congregation asked the Rabbi, "Which is more
important, the Sun or the Moon?"
The Rabbi thought for a moment and replied, "Well, the Moon comes
out at night when it is always dark and helps us to see a little bit.
The Sun only comes out during the day when it is always light, so it
not as important as the Moon."
-Haddasic Story
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6.307 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Sep 04 1991 10:29 | 7 |
|
"Well, this is going to be a new experience."
-George Bernard Shaw's last words
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6.308 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Still mellow after all these years | Wed Sep 04 1991 16:24 | 14 |
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A human being is a part of the whole...the universe.
He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as
if separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion
of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison
for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to
affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by
widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living
creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.
-- Albert Einstein
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6.309 | mm-mM-MMMM!!!! | BSS::VANFLEET | Time for a cool change... | Wed Sep 04 1991 17:25 | 0 |
6.310 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Sep 05 1991 09:05 | 10 |
|
"Gradually, man has become a fantastic animal that has to fulfill
one more condition of existence than any other animal: man has to
believe, to know, from time to time why he exists: he cannot flourish
without a periodic trust in life - without faith in reason in life.
And again and again the human race will decree from time to time:
"There is something at which it is absolutely forbidden to laugh."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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6.311 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Still mellow after all these years | Thu Sep 05 1991 11:37 | 6 |
|
"Eden 'is.' The kingdom of the Father is spread
upon the earth, and men do not see it."
-- Joseph Campbell _The Power of Myth_
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6.312 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Sep 06 1991 08:56 | 10 |
|
One day Nasrudin was sitting in the marketplace in front of a
basket of hot peppers, eating one after another. His eyes were
watering, his face was red and contorted and he was obviously
in great discomfort and suffering greatly, but still he continued
to eat the hot peppers. Finally, someone asked him why he was
doing this. Nasrudin replied, "I am looking for a sweet one."
- A Sufi Story
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6.313 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Still mellow after all these years | Sun Sep 08 1991 17:33 | 11 |
|
The son of a Rabbi went to worship on the Sabbath in a
nearby town. On his return, his family asked, "Well, did
they do anything different from what we do here?" "Yes,
of course," said the son. "Then what was the lesson?"
"Love thy enemy as thyself." "So, it's the same as we say.
And how is it you learned something else?" "They taught me
to love the enemy within myself."
-- Hasidic story
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6.314 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Sep 09 1991 08:54 | 7 |
|
"When you set yourself free from life and death you will know
your ultimate destination. Where will you go ?"
-Zen Koan
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6.315 | | DEMING::VALENZA | Glasnote. | Mon Sep 09 1991 13:00 | 24 |
| A university student visiting Gasan asked him: "Have you ever read the
Christian Bible?"
"No, read it to me," said Gasan.
The student opened the Bible and read from St. Matthew: "And why take
ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they
grow. They toil not, neither do they spin, and yet I say unto you that
even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these....Take
therefore no thought for the morrow, for the morrow shall take the
thought for the things of itself."
Gasan said: "Whoever uttered those words I consider an enlightened
man."
The student continued reading: "Ask and it shall be given you, seek
and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you. For everyone
that asketh receiveth, and he that seeketh findeth, and to him that
knocketh, it shall be opened."
Gasan remarked: "That is excellent. Whoever said that is not far from
Buddhahood."
From 101 Zen Stories
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6.316 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Sep 10 1991 08:56 | 12 |
|
"Tribe follows tribe and nation follows nation
like the waves of the sea.
It is the order of nations, and regret is useless.
Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surly come,
for even the white man whose God walked and talked with him
as a friend with a friend cannot be exempt form the
common destiny.
We may be brothers after all. We will see."
-Chief Sealth
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6.317 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | There's no better game in town | Wed Sep 11 1991 12:22 | 7 |
|
"If we could read the secret history of our enemies,
we should find in each person's life sorrow and suffering
enough to disarm all hostility."
-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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6.318 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Sep 12 1991 09:01 | 5 |
|
"Language is a tailor's shop in which nothing fits."
-Rumi
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6.319 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | There's no better game in town | Thu Sep 12 1991 09:52 | 44 |
| To Create an Enemy
Start with an empty canvas
Sketch in broad outline the forms of
men, women, and children.
Dip into the unconscious well of your own
disowned darkness
with a wide brush and
stain the strangers with the sinister hue
of the shadow.
Trace onto the face of the enemy the greed,
hatred, carelessness you dare not claim as
your own.
Obscure the sweet individuality of each face.
Erase all hints of the myriad loves, hopes,
fears that play through the kaleidoscope of
every finite heart.
Twist the smile until it forms the downward
arc of cruelty.
Strip flesh from bone until only the
abstract skeleton of death remains.
Exaggerate each feature until man is
metamorphosized into beast, vermin, insect.
Fill in the background with malignant
figures from ancient nightmares -- devils,
demons, myrmidons of evil.
When your icon of the enemy is complete
you will be able to kill without guilt,
slaughter without shame.
The thing you destroy will have become
merely an enemy of God, an impediment
to the sacred dialectic of history.
-- Sam Keen, "The Enemy Maker" from _Meeting the Shadow_
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6.320 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Thu Sep 12 1991 12:32 | 14 |
|
The acceptance of oneself is the essence of the moral problem
and the epitome of a whole outlook upon life. That I feed the
hungry, that I forgive an insult, that I love my enemy in the
name of Christ -- all these are undoubtedly great virtues.
What I do unto the least of my brethren, that I do unto Christ.
But what if I should discover that the least among them all,
the poorest of all the beggars, the most impudent of all offenders,
the very enemy himself -- that these are within me, and that I
myself stand in the need of the alms of my own kindness -- that
I myself am the enemy who must be loved -- what then?"
-- Carl G. Jung
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6.321 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Thu Sep 12 1991 18:20 | 7 |
|
"If you are willing to serenely bear the trial of being
displeasing to yourself, then you will be for Jesus a
pleasant place of shelter."
-- Saint Theresa of Lisieux, from _Meeting the Shadow_
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6.322 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Sep 13 1991 08:57 | 11 |
|
"I live in my own place
have never copied nobody even half
and at any master who lacks the grace
to laugh at himself - I laugh."
Inscribed over the front door of
Nietzsche's house
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6.323 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Sun Sep 15 1991 09:53 | 6 |
|
"There can be no Kingdom of God in the world
without the Kingdom of God in our hearts."
-- Albert Schweitzer
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6.324 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Sep 16 1991 11:05 | 5 |
|
"If life were clear, art would not exist."
-Alber Camus
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6.325 | | PCCAD1::RICHARDJ | Bluegrass,Music Aged To Perfekchun | Tue Sep 17 1991 10:01 | 9 |
|
"Love gives all you need, not all you want."
From Fr. Cohen's talk last night on EWTN.
Jim
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6.326 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Tue Sep 17 1991 12:37 | 6 |
|
"We turn to God for help when our foundations are shaking,
only to learn that it is God who is shaking them."
-- Charles C. West
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6.327 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Tue Sep 17 1991 12:57 | 8 |
|
"To know someone here or there with whom you feel
there is understanding in spite of differences
or thoughts expressed -- that can make of this earth
a garden."
-- Johann Wofgang von Goethe
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6.328 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Sep 17 1991 16:20 | 4 |
|
"Nothing is more real than nothing"
-Samuel Beckett
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6.329 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Tue Sep 17 1991 18:34 | 6 |
|
"Conscious faith is freedom. Emotional faith is slavery.
Mechanical faith is foolishness."
-- G.I. Gurdjieff
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6.330 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Wed Sep 18 1991 11:58 | 6 |
|
"If error is corrected whenever it is recognized as such,
the path of error is the path of truth."
-- Hans Reichenbach
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6.331 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Thu Sep 19 1991 10:14 | 5 |
|
"Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms."
-- Groucho Marx
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6.332 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Thu Sep 19 1991 16:44 | 6 |
|
"It is no use walking anywhere to preach,
unless our walking is our preaching."
-- St. Francis of Assisi
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6.333 | | BSS::VANFLEET | Time for a cool change... | Fri Sep 20 1991 11:52 | 3 |
| Is that what they mean by "walk the talk"? :-)
Nanci
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6.334 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Mon Sep 23 1991 12:05 | 8 |
|
"Prayer is not the moment when God and humans are
in relationship, for that is always. Prayer is
taking initiative to intentionally respond to
God's presence."
-- L. Robert Keck
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6.335 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Watch your peace & cues | Tue Sep 24 1991 20:25 | 6 |
| "I would like to believe that people in the long run are going to do
more for peace than are governments. Indeed, I think that people want
peace so much that one of these days government had better get out of
their way and let them have it."
- Dwight Eisenhower, US President and General
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6.336 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Yeah,but what does it all *mean*? | Wed Sep 25 1991 09:54 | 6 |
|
"Peace is such a precious jewel that I would give
anything for it but truth."
-- Matthew Henry
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6.337 | | JURAN::VALENZA | Glasnote. | Wed Sep 25 1991 11:43 | 18 |
| "As one whose husband and mother-in-law have both died the victims of
murder assassination, I stand firmly and unequivocally opposed to the
death penalty for those convicted of capital offenses. An evil deed is
not redeemed by an evil deed of retaliation. Justice is never advanced
in the taking of a human life. Morality is never upheld by legalized
murder." -- Coretta Scott King
[From "The Death Penalty -- Cruel & Inhuman Punishment" a pamphlet by
Amnesty International [322 8th Ave., New York, NY 10001]
"I regard the death penalty as a savage and immoral institution that
undermines the moral and legal foundations of a society. I reject the
notion that the death penalty has any essential deterrent effect on
potential offenders. I am convinced that the contrary is true -- that
savagery begets only savagery." -- Andrei Sakharov
[From "The Death Penalty -- Cruel & Inhuman Punishment" a pamphlet by
Amnesty International [322 8th Ave., New York, NY 10001]
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6.338 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Truth bears its own witness | Fri Sep 27 1991 10:34 | 5 |
|
"The gulf between knowledge and truth is infinite."
-- Henry Miller
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6.339 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Sep 27 1991 15:47 | 6 |
|
"Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what
it is, having nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or
rejection, one may as well burst out in laughter."
-Long Chen Pa
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6.340 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Sep 30 1991 14:53 | 8 |
|
"More than at any time in history mankind faces a crossroads.
One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other
to total extinction. Let us pray that we have the wisdom
to choose correctly."
-Woody Allen
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6.341 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Truth bears its own witness | Tue Oct 01 1991 15:16 | 5 |
|
"Contradiction is the criterion of reality."
-- Simone Weil
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6.342 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Oct 01 1991 19:47 | 6 |
|
"Wouldn't it be funny if there was nothing wrong with the Hubble
telescope at all and it is just that the whole universe is fuzzy"
-Jay Leno
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6.343 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Watch your peace & cues | Wed Oct 02 1991 23:50 | 3 |
| "Life is too important to be taken seriously."
-- Oscar Wilde
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6.344 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | a deeper wave rising | Sat Oct 05 1991 20:55 | 15 |
|
"It is in affliction itself that the splendor of God's
mercy shines, from its very depths, in the heart of
its inconsolable bitterness.
If still persevering in our love, we fall to the point
where the soul cannot keep back the cry, "My God, why
hast thou forsaken me?", if we remain at this point
without ceasing to love, we end by touching something
that is not affliction, not joy, an essence, necessary
and pure, something not of the senses, common to joy and
sorrow: the very love of God."
-- Simone Weil
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6.345 | | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Sun Oct 06 1991 21:38 | 3 |
| "It's not the IQ but the I will that matters."
Poster on a classroom door
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6.346 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Oct 15 1991 15:35 | 21 |
|
"A child is entitled to sane messages from adults. How parents
and teachers talk to children will help them to know how they
should feel about themselves. Their statements affect a
child's self esteem and self worth. To a large extent language
determines their destiny. Parents and teaches need to eradicate
the insanity so insidiously hidden in their everyday speech.
The messages that tell children to distrust their perception,
to disown their feelings and to doubt their own worth. The prevalent
so-called normal talk drives children crazy. The blaming and shaming,
the preaching and the moralizing, the ordering and the bossing and
the accusing, the ridiculing and the belittling, the threatening and
the bribing, the diagnosing and the prognosing - these techniques
brutalize, vulgarize and dehumanize children. Sanity only comes
when we trust our own inner reality and such trust is only learned
through the process of real communication."
Hiam Ginott
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6.347 | To live longer | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Passionate Peace | Fri Nov 22 1991 18:59 | 3 |
| "Eat with a Jew, but sleep with a Christian."
- Islamic proverb
|
6.348 | In support of the simple life | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Passionate Peace | Fri Nov 22 1991 19:05 | 3 |
| "The naked fear no thief."
- Russian proverb
|
6.349 | In search of God | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Passionate Peace | Tue Nov 26 1991 17:12 | 7 |
| "I traveled the world over in search of God, till I was utterly exhausted.
In despair I sunk my face into my hands, but as I lifted my face away,
I stared into my hands and was amazed by the miracle they were -- my hands
were a masterpiece of creation. My long search for God was at last fulfilled,
by the presence of God in the palms of my hands...."
- author unknown
|
6.350 | Re.-1 Wow! | TNPUBS::PAINTER | let there be music | Wed Nov 27 1991 15:54 | 1 |
|
|
6.351 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Passionate Peace | Tue Dec 03 1991 18:56 | 3 |
| "The world has become too small to hate anyone anymore."
- Dick Sargent on the Sally Jessy Raphael Show
|
6.352 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Passionate Peace | Tue Dec 03 1991 18:57 | 3 |
| "The definition of an eternity: Two people and a turkey."
- Of uncertain origin
|
6.353 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Bring me some figgy pudding! | Tue Dec 10 1991 19:23 | 3 |
| "The radical truth of reality is that we are all one."
- Thomas Merton
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6.354 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Dec 11 1991 07:55 | 8 |
|
"I have brought myself to the point where can sleep naked on the
earth and eat grass. And may God grant everyone a a life like
that. I need nothing and I fear no one, and I understand myself
so well that no man is richer and freer that I."
-Semyon Tolkovy
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6.356 | Thank God for lopsided people | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Fri Jan 03 1992 19:45 | 7 |
| "Moral theology would hardly advance at all without visionaries
and extremists, people who see things differently and plead God's cause
even in matters others judge insignificant. I don't think there are many
moderates in heaven."
- Andrew Linzey, The Christian Century
October 9, 1991
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6.357 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Wed Jan 08 1992 21:09 | 5 |
|
It will be a great day when our schools get all the money they need
and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.
- Women's International League for Peace and Freedom
|
6.358 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Thu Jan 09 1992 18:34 | 17 |
|
People think democracy makes them free.
People think war can be justifiable.
People think all men and women are created with equal rights.
People think sin brings eternal consequence.
What do they know? Nothing, I say.
People don't receive freedom from democracy. They bring freedom to it.
War is not justifiable. War begs justification. Justification brings it.
People are not created with equal rights. People create equal rights.
Sin does not bring eternal consequence. Eternal consequences make sinners.
People don't know this. Even if we did, what difference would it make?
- James Woodyatt
|
6.359 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Tue Jan 14 1992 22:21 | 4 |
| "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
change the world; indeed it's the only thing that ever has."
-Margaret Mead
|
6.360 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Thu Jan 23 1992 14:46 | 4 |
|
"War never determines who is right....only who is left."
- Unknown
|
6.361 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Mon Jan 27 1992 17:36 | 6 |
| "The brook would lose its song if God removed the rocks."
- When you pass through the waters, I will be with you.
And through the rivers, they shall not overflow you.
Isaiah 43:2
|
6.362 | MLK on love | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Mon Jan 27 1992 17:37 | 16 |
| "I am convinced that love is the most durable power in the world.
It is not an expression of impractical idealism, but of practical realism.
Far from being the pious injunction of a Utopian dreamer, love is an absolute
necessity for the survival of our civilization. To return hate for hate
does nothing but intensify the existence of evil in the universe. Someone
must have sense enough and religion enough to cut off the chain of hate and
evil, and this can only be done through love. Moreover, love is creative
and redemptive. Love builds up and unites; hate tears down and destroys.
The aftermath of the 'fire with fire' method...is bitterness and chaos;
the aftermath of the love method is reconciliation and the creation of the
beloved community...Yes, love -- which means understanding, creative,
redemptive goodwill, even for one's enemies -- is the solution to the race
problem."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
Ebony, November 1957
|
6.363 | MLK on education | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Mon Jan 27 1992 18:47 | 10 |
| "The function of education...is to teach one to think intensively
and to think critically. But education which stops with efficiency may
prove to be the greatest menace to society. The most dangerous criminal
may be the man gifted with reason, but with no morals...We must remember
that intelligence is not enough. Intelligence plus character -- this is
the goal of education."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
Morehouse Maroon Tiger, quoted
in "What Manner of Man."
|
6.364 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Thu Jan 30 1992 21:25 | 6 |
|
"The opposite of a fact is a falsehood, but the opposite
of one profound truth may well be another profound truth."
-- Niels Bohr, physicist
|
6.365 | | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Mon Feb 10 1992 14:59 | 10 |
|
"What does the Lord require of you but to act justly
and to love mercy and to work humbly with your God."
Micah 6:8
(I don't know the translation off hand, I saw this in the _Pastoral Staff_,
The Western Massachusetts Diocese Episcopal newsletter.)
Jim
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6.366 | What's Good? | DEMING::DEMING::VALENZA | Sorry, Tennessee. | Thu Mar 05 1992 21:34 | 2 |
| "Life's good, but not fair at all."
- Lou Reed
|
6.367 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Wed Mar 25 1992 18:15 | 5 |
| And St. Francis said to the Almond Tree:
"Sister, speak to me of love."
And the Almond Tree blossomed.
- Kazantzakis
|
6.368 | | DPDMAI::DAWSON | Ok...but only once | Wed Mar 25 1992 22:38 | 15 |
|
Some people, I swear,
want to love God in the same way as they love a cow.
They want itfor its milk and cheeseand the profit
they will derive from it.
Those who love God for the sake of outward riches or for
the sake of inward consolation operate on the
same principle.
They are not loving God correctly;
they are merely loving their own advantage.
-Meister Eckhart
|
6.369 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 07 1992 23:46 | 11 |
|
Do all the good you can
By all the means you can
In all the ways you can
In all the places you can
All the times you can
To all the people you can
As long as ever you can
- John Wesley
|
6.370 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Wed Apr 08 1992 20:13 | 13 |
| To you in this room who are seekers, to you, young and old who
have toiled all night and caught nothing, but who want to launch out
into the deeps and let down your nets for a draught, I want to speak as
simply, as tenderly, as clearly as I can. For God can be found. There
is a last rock for your souls, a resting place of absolute peace and
joy and power and radiance and security. There is a Divine Center into
which your life can slip, a new and absolute orientation in God, a Center
where you live with Him and out of which you see all of life, through
new and radiant vision, tinged with new sorrows and pangs, new joys
unspeakable and full of glory.
-Thomas R. Kelly
A Testament of Devotion
|
6.371 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Apr 09 1992 20:07 | 6 |
|
"So long as we love, we serve. So long as we are loved by others
I would say we are almost indispensable; no man is useless while
he has a friend."
- Robert Louis Stevenson
|
6.372 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Apr 10 1992 21:38 | 5 |
|
"You may be as orthodox as the Devil, and just as wicked."
-John Wesley
|
6.373 | | BSS::VANFLEET | Hold on for one more day | Mon Apr 13 1992 11:24 | 6 |
| "Perspective. Use it or lose it."
Richard Bach, _Illusions_
Nanci
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6.374 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Apr 13 1992 19:20 | 8 |
|
"May we pursue the right, without self-righteousness. May we know
unity, without conformity. May we grow in strength, without pride in
self. May we, in all our dealings with all the people of the earth,
ever speak the truth and serve justice."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
|
6.375 | | MAST::RUPP | Zoiks! | Tue Apr 14 1992 10:21 | 10 |
|
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,
and the man that getteth understanding.
Her ways are ways of pleasantness
and all her paths are peace.
Proverbs 3: 13,17
|
6.376 | Fault-finding | ESDNI4::ANDREWS | The tango is blue | Tue Apr 14 1992 11:28 | 12 |
|
from the Old Farmer's Almanac (1858)
Having in my youth notions of severe piety, I used to rise in the
night to watch and pray. One night as I engaged in these exercises,
my father, a man of practical virtues, awoke while I was reading.
"Behold," said I to him, "thy other children are lost in irreligious
slumber, while I alone awoke to praise God." "Son of my soul," said
he, "it is better to sleep than to wake to mark the faults of thy
brethren."
|
6.377 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 14 1992 22:06 | 6 |
|
"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity."
-Horace Mann
|
6.378 | | JURAN::VALENZA | Note the mama! | Wed Apr 15 1992 14:07 | 34 |
| 'There are some fierce, horrifying phrases in Zen: "When you meet the
Buddha, kill him; when you meet the Patriarch, kill him" or "Boil the
Buddha! Boild the Patriarch!" I am afraid Christianity has no saying
like these. Quakers would never say, "When you meet the Christ, kill
him; when you meet Fox, kill him." For many Christians this would be
nothing but a sacrilegious remark. For Zen Buddhists, however, this is
the greatest repayment of the kindnesses they have received from the
Buddha or the Patriarch. I think Quakers could understand why and
appreciate these Zen phrases; because this is exactly what George Fox
did. What do they mean?
'When one attains enlightenment, one will know the true spirit of Buddha
and the highest wisdom directly, not through words. Buddha's teachings
as were recorded in sutras and books and have been handed down from
generation to generation are nothing but words. Words are very
incomplete indexes to the Truth and not the Truth itself. Besides,
they are fixed and do not change, though everything in the world
changes. Nothing is permanent in this world. When we see what has
happened in the world the past few years, we cannot but appreciate the
truth of the Buddhist idea of "impermanence of everything." Yet, fixed
words do not change or flow with the world. One Zen phrase says,
"Words fail." Another goes, "As soon as you preach a thing, you miss
the mark." So, those who have known the inner Buddha directly through
their own experience will not stick to the Buddha's teachings in
sutras. When the teachings in sutras differ from or conflict with
their experiential knowledge, they are ready to throw them away: that
is, kill the Buddha. I think that George Fox and William Penn were
genuine Christians. They knew the true spirit of Christ, the Inward
Christ, so they could "kill Christ," that is, apply the teachings in
the Bible directly from their own experiences without being literal in
their understandings of the teachings.'
Teruyasu Tamura
"A Zen Buddhist Enounters Quakerism"
|
6.379 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Pummelled by poignancy | Fri Apr 17 1992 12:31 | 7 |
|
"We must learn to regard people less in the light of
what they do or omit to do, and more in the light of
what they suffer."
-- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
|
6.380 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 21 1992 00:31 | 6 |
|
"Life can only be understood backwards
but can only be lived forwards."
-Soren Kierkegaard
|
6.381 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 21 1992 23:27 | 6 |
|
"Quiet minds cannot be perplexed or frightened, but go on
in fortune and misfortune at their own private pace, like
a clock during a thunderstorm."
-Robert Louis Stevenson
|
6.382 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Apr 22 1992 19:48 | 6 |
|
"To be what we are, and to become what we are capable of becoming,
is the only end of life."
-Robert Louis Stevenson
|
6.383 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Apr 23 1992 19:55 | 5 |
|
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive,
and the true success is to labor."
-Robert Louis Stevenson
|
6.384 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | uncovering that which is precious. | Fri Apr 24 1992 16:43 | 7 |
|
"I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration
from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange,
I am ungrateful to these teachers."
-- Kahlil Gibran
|
6.385 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Apr 24 1992 20:42 | 6 |
|
"If a man love the labor of any trade, apart from any question
of success or fame, the gods have called him."
-Robert Louis Stevenson
|
6.386 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Apr 28 1992 21:47 | 6 |
|
"How poor are they that have not patience.
What wound did ever heal but by degrees ?"
William Shakespeare
|
6.387 | | VIDSYS::PARENT | The girl in the mirror | Tue Apr 28 1992 23:02 | 5 |
|
"There is do, and not do, there is no try."
Yoda
|
6.388 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | uncovering that which is precious. | Wed Apr 29 1992 12:08 | 8 |
|
"The sin against the Holy Spirit is the sin against
new life, against self-emergence, against the Holy
fecund innerness of each person. It can be committed
quite as easily against oneself as against another."
-- M.C. Richards
|
6.389 | | DEMING::VALENZA | Karaoke naked. | Wed Apr 29 1992 15:21 | 5 |
| Throughout the history of mankind there have been murderers and
tyrants; and while it may seem momentarily that they have the upper
hand, they have always fallen. Always.
- M.K. Gandhi, Lawyer, philosopher & peace activist.
|
6.390 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed Apr 29 1992 19:42 | 6 |
|
"None who have always been free can understand the the terrible,
fascinating power of the hope of freedom to those who are not free."
Pearl S. Buck
|
6.391 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Apr 30 1992 19:46 | 13 |
|
"Far to often our lives become overburdened with trivialities,
myriads of small projects which at the time seem terribly important.
Soon these chores become more important than the truly important
things in life - family, faith, lending a helping hand to those who
are less fortunate. It takes a real effort to keep from becoming
consumed with the daily comings and goings, but it is a goal that
we should strive toward. We should take time to hold hands, say a
kind word now and then, to be polite and giving and sharing.
More importantly we should get back to the basics of life - love."
-Birch Bayh
|
6.392 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Nature's calling | Mon May 04 1992 15:32 | 7 |
|
"You've got to have something to eat and a little love
in your life before you can hold still for any damn
body's sermon on how to behave."
-- Billie Holiday
|
6.393 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon May 04 1992 19:46 | 5 |
|
"Two things a man should never be angry at: what he can help,
and what he cannot help."
-Thomas Fuller
|
6.394 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Nature's calling | Mon May 04 1992 23:47 | 5 |
|
"Our minds want clothes as much as our bodies."
-- Samuel Butler
|
6.395 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed May 06 1992 19:25 | 6 |
|
"Custom is the plague of wise men and the idol of fools."
-Thomas Fuller
|
6.396 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu May 07 1992 23:59 | 5 |
|
"If you have one true friend you have more than your share."
-Thomas Fuller
|
6.397 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri May 08 1992 21:54 | 6 |
|
"Though all men were made of one metal, yet they were not cast
all in the same mold."
-Thomas Fuller
|
6.398 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue May 12 1992 00:22 | 7 |
|
"When we cannot find contentment in ourselves;
it is useless to seek it elsewhere."
-Francois De La Rochefoucald
|
6.399 | | JURAN::VALENZA | Dance the note away. | Tue May 12 1992 09:57 | 19 |
| "I was bicycling the other day and came to an area where the
Ompompanoosuc River broadly meanders and flattens out by the roadside.
To my left there was a railroad bed which crossed the "Pomp" ( as it is
called hereabouts) and along side of that bed were two fisherman. I
have never fished, but it seems like an attractive way to spend time as
actually catching a fish appears incidental to the activity. Being on
the river, alone or with some good companionship, appears to be the
main point of the enterprise, and that seems like an activity that
would suit me. On my side of the river were two crows, who also seemed
to be just hanging out, pretending to catch fish but just being. It
seemed like a mirror image to me, as both the pairs were involved in
the same activity, or lack thereof. I wondered aloud whether
fisherman, when they died, came back as crows, or vice versa. My
companion told me that depended on how they took care of their Karma in
this life. I am unclear whether it is an advancement or not to become
the crow."
Jim Greenleaf, in a mail message posted on the Quaker
mailing list
|
6.400 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed May 13 1992 21:18 | 8 |
|
"It is only those people who possess firmness who can possess true
gentleness. Those who appear gentle generally posses nothing but
weakness, which is readily converted into harshness."
-Francois De La Rochefoucauld
|
6.401 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri May 15 1992 01:48 | 6 |
|
"Few persons have sufficient wisdom to prefer censure, which is
useful to them, to praise, which deceives them."
-Francois De La Rochefoucauld
|
6.402 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue May 19 1992 22:48 | 9 |
|
"There must be a time of day when a man who makes plans, forgets his
plans and acts as if he had no plans at all.
There must be a time of day when a man who has to speak falls very
silent. And his mind forms no more propositions, and he asks himself:
Did they have meaning ?"
-Thomas Merton
|
6.403 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri May 22 1992 23:23 | 35 |
|
"We live in the time of no room, which is the time of the end.
The time when everyone is obsessed with lack of time, lack of space,
with saving time, conquering space, projecting into time and space
the anguish produced within them by the technological furies of size,
volume, quantity, speed, price, power, and acceleration.
The primordial blessing of "increase and multiply has suddenly
become a hemorrhage of terror. We are numbered in billions, marshaled,
numbered, marched here and there, taxed, drilled, armed, worked to the
point of insensibility, dazed by information, drugged by entertainment,
surfeited with everything, nauseated with the human race and with
ourselves, nauseated with life.
As the end approaches there is no room for nature. The cities crowd
it off the face of the earth.
As the end approaches there is no room for quite. There is no room
for solitude. There is no room for thought. There is no room for
attention, for the awareness of our state.
At the time of the ultimate end there is no room for man...
There is no room for him in the massed crowds of the eschatological
society, the society of the end, in which all those for whom there is
no room are thrown together, thrust, pitched out bodily into a whirlpool
of empty forms, human specters, swirling aimlessly through the cities,
wishing they had never been born.
In the time of the end there is no longer the desire to go on living.
The time of the end is when men call for the mountains to fall upon them,
because they wish they did not exist.
Why? Because they are part of a proliferation of life that is not fully
alive, it is programmed for death. A life that has not been chosen and can
hardly be accepted, has no more room for hope. Yet it must pretend to go
on hoping. It is haunted by the demon of emptiness. And out of this
unutterable void come the armies, the missiles, the weapons, the bombs,
the concentration camps, the race riots, the racist murders and all the
other crimes of mass society."
-Thomas Merton
|
6.404 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Wed May 27 1992 00:33 | 6 |
|
"Take care that you do not let your thoughts become your prison."
-William Shakespeare
|
6.405 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu May 28 1992 19:26 | 5 |
|
"Words are but wind."
-William Shakespeare
|
6.406 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Sun May 31 1992 01:09 | 7 |
|
"In religion, what damned error, but some sober brow
Will bless it and approve it with a text ?"
-William Shakespeare
|
6.407 | For "E" Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne | MORO::BEELER_JE | Ross Perot for President | Fri Jun 12 1992 12:15 | 8 |
|
"From this day to the ending of the World,
... we in it shall be remembered
... we band of brothers"
"Henry V"
William Shakespeare
|
6.408 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace Reservist | Tue Jun 23 1992 17:18 | 7 |
| Birds sing on a bare bough;
O Believers,
canst not thou?
C. H. Spurgeon
|
6.409 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace Reservist | Thu Jun 25 1992 22:51 | 11 |
| A friend is one
to whom one may pour out
all the contents of one's heart,
chaff and grain together,
knowing the gentlest hands
will take it and sift it,
keep what is worth keeping,
and with a breath of kindness
blow the rest away.
- Arabian proverb
|
6.410 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | heart full of song | Mon Jun 29 1992 22:39 | 17 |
|
The difficulty with fundamentalism of any kind, be it Marxist,
Christian, Islamic, or sociobiological, is that it is the kind of
empowerment of an interpretation that gives people such a sense of
control over their own world that they end up thinking that their
interpretation _is_ the world.
When an explanation becomes total, it becomes totalitarian. In
taking power to itself, it takes power away from anything that is other
to itself, for that very otherness proves that the interpretation can't
really be the totality of reality. Whether it is "all in the Bible"
for Jimmy Swaggert or "all in the Koran" for the Ayatollah Khomeini,
there is a world forced to surrender to the fundamentalist's powers of
explanation.
-- William Irwin Thompson, cultural historian and author
|
6.411 | John 4.34 Fields Ripe for the Harvest | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Gotham City's Software Consultant | Tue Jun 30 1992 21:34 | 12 |
| My food, said Jesus, is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish
his work.
Do you not say "Four months more and then the harvest?" I tell
you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest.
Even now the reaper draws his wages, even now he harvests the crop for
eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together.
Thus the saying "One sows and another reaps" is true. I sent you to
reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and
you have reaped the benefits of their labor.
|
6.412 | 1 Cor 9:22 For the sake of the gospel | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Gotham City's Software Consultant | Tue Jun 30 1992 21:50 | 3 |
| To the weak, I became weak, to win the the weak. I have become all
things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. I do
all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.
|
6.413 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace | Wed Jul 01 1992 19:23 | 5 |
| "Hatred and bitterness can never cure the disease of fear; only love
can do that. Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses
life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illumines it."
- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.414 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | heart full of song | Wed Jul 01 1992 22:30 | 7 |
|
"You've got to have something to eat and a little
love in your life before you can hold still for
any damn body's sermon on how to behave."
-- Billie Holiday
|
6.415 | 1 Th 1:13 The Word of God, not men | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Gotham City's Software Consultant | Wed Jul 01 1992 23:21 | 4 |
| And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word
of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of
men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you
who believe. 1 Th 1:13
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6.416 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | heart full of song | Wed Jul 01 1992 23:22 | 6 |
|
"The more the soul knows, the more she loves,
and loving much, she tastes much."
-- St. Catherine of Siena
|
6.417 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Jul 07 1992 23:39 | 6 |
|
"I'll tell you a great secret, my friend. Don't wait for the last
judgement. It happens every day."
-Albert Camus
|
6.418 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | I'd rather be jammin' | Wed Jul 08 1992 11:47 | 8 |
|
"Our spiritualization of hostility...consists in a profound
appreciation of having enemies.... A new creation needs
enemies more than friends: in opposition alone does it
feel itself necessary."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche _Twilight of the Idols_
|
6.419 | | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Wed Jul 08 1992 17:57 | 3 |
| "It takes courage to die, but even more to live."
Leopold von Sacher-Masoch in a letter to Emilie Mataja
|
6.420 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Jul 09 1992 19:42 | 5 |
|
"We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the
Sermon on the Mount."
Gen. Omar Bradley
|
6.421 | Pope John Paul II on religious instruction | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Gotham City's Software Consultant | Fri Jul 10 1992 12:18 | 8 |
| At the heart of catechesis [religious instruction] we find, in essence,
a Person, the Person of Jesus of Nazareth, 'the only Son from the
Father ... full of grace and truth,' who suffered and died for us and
who now, after rising, is living forever. It is Jesus who is 'the way,
and the the truth and the life,' and Christian living consists in
following Christ.
Pope John Paul II, Catechesi Tradendae (1979)
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6.422 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | I'd rather be jammin' | Fri Jul 10 1992 14:10 | 9 |
|
"The true purpose of all spiritual disciplines is to
clear away whatever may block our awareness of that
which is God in us. The aim is to get rid of whatever
may so distract the mind and encumber the life that
we function without this awareness."
-- Howard Thurman, _Disciplines of the Spirit_
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6.423 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Fri Jul 10 1992 22:49 | 6 |
|
"It is easier to love humanity as a whole than
to love one's neighbor."
-Eric Hoffer
|
6.424 | something I really needed to hear last week | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Mon Jul 13 1992 11:50 | 3 |
| "It is better to Dance than to Die."
-the ballet instructor of a dear friend
|
6.425 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Jul 13 1992 21:17 | 5 |
|
"Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream."
-Malcolm Muggeridge
|
6.426 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Only Nixon can go to China | Thu Jul 23 1992 17:03 | 18 |
| The job of the peacemaker is to stop war,
to purify the world,
to get us saved from poverty and riches,
to heal the sick,
to comfort the sad,
to wake up those who have not yet found God,
to create joy and beauty wherever you go,
to find God in everything and everyone.
- Muriel Lester
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6.427 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Unexpect the expected | Mon Jul 27 1992 23:46 | 16 |
|
"Perhaps it may be and this is my prayer that, through our sacred
pipe peace may come to those peoples who can understand, an
understanding which must be of the heart and not of the head alone.
Then they will realize that we Indians know the One true God, and that
we pray to Him continually.
We should understand well that all things are the works of the
Great Spirit. We should know that He is within all things: the trees,
the grasses, the rivers, the mountains, and all the four-legged
animals, and the winged peoples; and even more important, we should
understand all this deeply in our hearts, then we will fear, and love,
and know the Great Spirit, and then we will be and act and live as He
intends."
-- Black Elk, Oglala Sioux
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6.428 | A time too late for protest came | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Only Nixon can go to China | Wed Jul 29 1992 13:20 | 20 |
| First they came for the Jews,
but I wasn't a Jew, so I didn't react.
Then they came for the communists,
but I wasn't a communist, so I didn't object.
Then they came for the homosexuals,
but I wasn't homosexual, so I didn't stand up.
Then they came for the political activists,
but I wasn't a political activist, so I didn't protest.
Then they came for me ...
and by that time no one was left to speak out.
From the writings of Martin Niemoeller,
a Protestant minister. He was among
the millions of Jews, Catholics, gays,
workers, clergy, political activists,
Jehovah's Witnesses, Gypsies, mentally
ill, etc., that the Nazis imprisoned,
tortured and often exterminated as
"undesirables".
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6.429 | Solzhenitsyn on the Humanistic way | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Will I make it to my 18th Anniversary? | Tue Aug 04 1992 21:51 | 9 |
| The humanistic way of thinking which has proclaimed itself as our guide
did not admit the existence of evil in man, nor did it see any task
higher other than the attainment of happiness on earth.
It started modern western civilization on the dangerous trend of
worshiping man and his material needs...gaps were left open for evil,
and its drafts blow freely today.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1978 Harvard commencement address
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6.430 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Keep on loving boldly! | Wed Aug 19 1992 17:08 | 4 |
| "History will remember us not for our positioning, but for our principles. Not
by a move to the political center, left or right, but rather by our grasp on
the moral and ethical center of wrong and right."
--Jesse Jackson
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6.431 | The Plan of the Master Weaver ... | MORO::BEELER_JE | Bubba for President! | Tue Aug 25 1992 01:59 | 36 |
| Upon the death of a very very very dear friend of mine ... may he rest
in peace - the peace that he sought for so very long. He is finally
free at last, free at last ... thank God Almighty, he's free at last.
"Our lives are but fine weavings
That God and we prepare,
Each life becomes a fabric planned
And fashioned in His care.
"We may not always see just how
The weavings intertwine,
But we must trust the Master's hand
And follow his design,
For He can view the pattern
Upon the upper side,
While we must look from underneath
And trust in Him to guide...
"Sometimes a strand of sorrow
Is added to His plan,
And though it's difficult for us,
We must understand
That it's He who fills the shuttle,
It's He who knows what's best,
So we must weave in patience
And leave to Him the rest...
"Not till the loom is silent
And the shuttles cease to fly
Shall God unroll the canvas
And explain the reason why--
The dark threads are as needed
In the Weaver's skillful hand
As the threads of gold and silver
In the pattern He has planned."
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6.432 | Prayer for Life | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Tue Aug 25 1992 21:11 | 13 |
| Lord, Creator of Life, You have blessed us with the privilege of
bringing new life into the world. Open our hearts and minds to
recognize Your special gift of children and Your great love for each of
us created in Your image and likeness.
Through love You sent Your Son Jesus to redeem us and through love He
entered our world as an unborn child in the womb of Mary, His mother.
We now turn to the Blessed Virgin Mary for her prayers and intercession
as we struggle to protect innocent children from decisions that seek to
destroy them. Following Mary's example as mother and disciple, let us
proclaim the truth of our faith, assists those in crisis and protect
those most vulnerable, unwanted and unloved. Amen.
|
6.433 | Democracy | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Thu Aug 27 1992 20:16 | 3 |
| Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage.
HL Mencken
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6.434 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Keep on loving boldly! | Mon Aug 31 1992 19:16 | 6 |
| "Everybody thinks of themselves as having
a sense of humor,
even if they don't."
- Nora Ephron
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6.435 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Aug 31 1992 22:52 | 5 |
|
"All I know is, it is better to tell the truth than to lie, better to
be free than a slave, better to have knowledge than be ignorant."
- H. L. Mencken
|
6.436 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | Stay tuned | Tue Sep 01 1992 18:17 | 7 |
|
"I want to remind you since I've become Governor, the Russian
empire has fallen. The Berlin wall has come down. I had as
much to do with it as George Bush did."
-- Texas Governor, Ann Richards
San Antonio, TX August 27, 1992
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6.437 | | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Tue Sep 01 1992 21:23 | 4 |
| "You can stil kill a chicken in Hialeah. You just can't pray over it
when you do it."
Robyn Blummer, exceutive director of the Florida ACLU
|
6.438 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Thu Sep 17 1992 10:37 | 6 |
|
"We will require a substantively new manner of thinking
if mankind is to survive."
-- Albert Einstein
|
6.439 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Fri Sep 18 1992 12:09 | 7 |
|
"The whole crux of life...is that it constantly
requires the living reconciliation of opposites
which in strict logic are irreconcilable."
-- E. F. Schumacher
|
6.440 | Creation | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Thu Sep 24 1992 23:39 | 4 |
| What is harder? To create something from nothing, or to create saints
from sinners?
Soren Kierkegaard
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6.441 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Thu Oct 08 1992 00:27 | 10 |
|
"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil
people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and
it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of
us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil
cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is
willing to destroy a piece of his (sic) own heart."
-- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, _Meeting the Shadow_
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6.442 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Fri Oct 09 1992 22:44 | 15 |
|
Do you want to know what goes on
in the core of the Trinity?
I will tell you.
The Father laughs
and gives birth to the Son.
The Son laughs back
and gives birth to the Spirit.
The whole Trinity laughs
and gives birth to us.
All things love God.
-- Meister Eckhart (1260-1329). Mystic, prophet,
theologian, feminist, and declared heretic.
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6.443 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Tue Oct 13 1992 17:12 | 5 |
|
"Religion = spirituality + politics"
-- Michael Harner, anthropologist
|
6.444 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Wed Oct 14 1992 11:30 | 6 |
|
To watch over a person who grieves is a more urgent duty
than to think of God.
-- Ellie Wiesel
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6.445 | | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Wed Oct 14 1992 12:00 | 9 |
| Sometimes you can do more to change a person by talking to God
about them than you can by talking to the person about God.
I don't know who said it first but it came up in
conversation with my father and step mother one of whom
repeated it.
Alfred
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6.446 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Wed Oct 14 1992 13:01 | 9 |
|
I have said this before many times. If a person were in a
rapture as great as St. Paul once experienced and learned
that her neighbor were in need of a cup of soup, it would
be best to withdraw from the rapture and give the person
the soup she needs.
-- Meister Eckhart
|
6.447 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Thu Oct 15 1992 15:31 | 9 |
|
"Is not one of the problems of religious life today that
we have separated ourselves from the poor and the wounded
and the suffering? We have toomuch time to discuss and to
theorize, and we have lost the yearning for God which comes
when we are faced with the sufferings of people."
-- Jean Vanier
|
6.448 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Wed Oct 21 1992 17:10 | 7 |
|
"At Catholic Worker we sought a 'Green Revolution' --
a kind of society where it would be easier for people
to be good."
-- Dorothy Day
|
6.449 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Wed Oct 21 1992 18:18 | 26 |
|
Science cannot tell us a word about why music delights us,
of why and how an old song can move us to tears.
Science is reticent too when it is a question of the great
Unity...of which we all somehow form part, to which we belong.
The most popular name for it in our times is God -- with a
capital "G." Science is, very usually, branded as being
atheistic. After what we said, this is not astonishing.
If its world-picture does not even contain blue, yellow,
bitter, sweet -- beauty, delight, and sorrow -- if personality
is cut out of it by agreement, how should it contain the most
sublime idea that presents itself to the human mind?
The world is big and great and beautiful. My scientific knowledge
of the events in it comprises hundreds of millions of years. Yet
in another way it is ostensibly contained in a poor seventy or
eighty or ninety years granted to me -- a tiny spot in immeasurable
time, nay even in the finite millions and milliards of years that
I have learnt to measure and to assess. Whence come I and whither
go I? That is the great unfathomable question, the same for every
one of us. Science has no answer to it.
-- Erwin Schroedinger (1887-1961) Nobel Prize winner,
Physics, 1933.
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6.450 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Thu Oct 22 1992 16:28 | 12 |
|
"Self-hatred is the basis for hating others or the world at
large. For self-hatred, being really unbearable, is easily
justified by making others and the world bad so they can
become the object of hatred instead of one's own self.
Thus, pessimism may be called the philosophy of hatred, or,
as Nietzsche termed it more subtly, of 'ressentiment.' Being
loved by God, manifesting itself as love for God, can only be
experienced on the basis of self-acceptance."
-- Otto Rank
|
6.451 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Fri Oct 23 1992 12:17 | 14 |
|
I never united myself to any church because I have found
difficulty in giving my assent without mental reservations,
to the long complicated statements of Christian doctrine
which characterize their articles of Belief and Confessions
of Faith.
When any church will inscribe over its altar, as its sole
qualification for membership, "Thou shalt love thy God, with
all thy soul and with all thy mind and thy neighbor as thyself,"
that church will I join with all my heart and with all my soul.
-- Abraham Lincoln
|
6.452 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Fri Oct 23 1992 15:12 | 9 |
|
"Any religion which professes to be concerned about the souls
of men and is not concerned about the social and economic
conditions that can scar the soul, is a spiritually moribund
religion only waiting for the day to be buried."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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6.453 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Sat Oct 24 1992 11:13 | 50 |
| I'm ninety-two years old, all right. I get up every morning at
seven a.m. Each day I remind myself, "Wake up. Get up." I talk to
my legs, "Legs, get moving. Leg's you're an antelope." It's a
matter of mind over matter. You have to have the right spirit. And
I'm out on the streets, seven-thirty a.m. sharp.
I'm wearing my Honorable Sanitation Commissioner badge they gave
me from City Hall. I'm alert, I'm ready, I'm out there. And I got
my whistle. My job is I help get parked cars off the street so they
can bring in the sanitation trucks and the Wayne Broom, the big one
-- thirty grand for a broom! So when they show up, I go around
blowing my whistle to get people to move their cars. I have a great
time.
People are asleep. They're busy with businesses. They're busy
taking time off from the businesses. They're busy having a good
time. They're busy not having a good time. Whatever. I don't care.
I blow my whistle. I'm all over the place.
I don't discriminate, either. I go after the sanitation men too.
The union got them a coffee break. Some coffee. They're having
eggs, they're having bacon, they're having toast...they're having
French toast. I kid them about it. And I go right into the
restaurant and blow my whistle. They love it, they understand.
Everybody loves it, everybody understands. It's the whistle that
gets them. Sometimes I'm having such a laugh, I can't blow it. Then
I get back to work. "Schleppers, get moving, let's go!"
This used to be a beautiful city. People cared. If you didn't
pay your rent, the sheriff would come and put your furniture out on
the street. But the poorest of the poor would come automatically and
drop their pennies and nickels at your house and put you back into
your apartment. That's neighborhood.
Now it's different. Things have gotten out of kilter -- hard to
say why. People seem to be lost in their own lives. I see them on
the street, lost in their own thoughts. Not that I'm all that
different. I'm a schlepp myself. I have as many bad habits as
anyone. You should see my apartment. It's a mess. Me, Mr. Clean!
But I'm trying. Let's try. It's all possible.
What can I tell you? I'm not a saint or a wise man. I'm not the
Two-Thousand-Year-Old-Man, I'm only the ninety-two-year-old man.
Just a senior citizen. But what do I know that everybody doesn't
know? We know. I just go out there in the morning and blow my
whistle. That's what I do. You do what you do. Me, I'm having a
great time. Wonderful fun. And when people see how much fun I'm
having, they have to laugh. What else can they do? Then I hit them
with it: "Move your car!"
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6.454 | | MORO::BEELER_JE | Perot for President! | Sat Oct 24 1992 18:00 | 31 |
| A Soldier's Prayer
I asked God for strength, that I might achieve.
I was made weak, that I might learn humbly to obey.
I asked for health, that I might do greater things.
I was given infirmity, that I might do better things.
I asked for riches, that I might be happy.
I was given poverty, that I might be wise.
I asked for power, that I might have the praise of men.
I was given weakness, that I might feel the need of God.
I asked for all things, that I might enjoy life.
I was given life, that I might enjoy all things.
I got nothing that I asked for ....
....but everything I had hoped for.
Almost despite myself, my unspoken prayers were answered.
I am, among all men, most richly blessed.
-Author unknown (to me)
|
6.455 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Fri Oct 30 1992 23:13 | 8 |
|
"Nothing could be more unauthoritative than the parables
of Jesus. Their whole purpose is to enable the listener
to discover something for him/herself. They are not
illustrations of revealed doctrines; they are works of
art which reveal or uncover the truth about life."
-- Albert Nolan
|
6.456 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | | Tue Nov 03 1992 15:20 | 6 |
|
"Preach the gospel at all times.
If necessary, use words."
- Francis of Assisi
|
6.457 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | | Tue Nov 03 1992 20:30 | 4 |
| It is the invisible that God sees,
and that the Christian must look for.
- Julian of Norwich
|
6.458 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | | Wed Nov 04 1992 13:00 | 10 |
| "Jesus has been so zealously worshipped, his deity so vehemently
affirmed, his halo so brightly illumined, and his cross so beautifully
polished, that in the minds of many he no longer exists as a human. He
has become an exquisite celestial being who momentarily lapsed into painful
involvement in the human scene, and then quite properly returned to his
heavenly habitat. By thus glorifying him, we more effectively rid ourselves
of him than did those who tried to do so by so crudely crucifying him."
- Clarence Jordan
|
6.459 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Thu Nov 05 1992 19:56 | 9 |
|
"Jesus became a human being because God the compassionate
One could not suffer and lacked a back to be beaten.
God needed a back like our backs on which to receive
blows and thereby to perform compassion as well as to
preach about it."
-- Meister Eckhart
|
6.460 | | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Sat Nov 07 1992 11:43 | 5 |
| The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask
him whether he is the surplus population, or if he is not, how he knows
he is not.
GK Chesterton
|
6.461 | | CARTUN::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Fri Nov 13 1992 18:41 | 60 |
|
One Aramaic translation of the Lord's prayer (by Neil Douglas-
Klotz, Aramaic scholar) begins to show how rich the Aramaic
language actually is:
1. Abwoon d'bwashmaya
(Abw = all sources of parenting, coming from, birthing, being
created, emanating; oon = inside of, creator of the shimmering
sound that touches all. Notice "shm" in "bwashmaya")
"O Birther! Father-Mother of the Cosmos, you create all that
moves in light."
2. Nethqadash shmakh: (notice the root "shm" again)
"Focus your light within us -- make it useful: as the rays of
a beacon show the way."
3. Teytey malkuthakh:
"Create your reign of unity now -- through our firey hearts
and willing hands."
4. Nehwey tzevyanach aykanna d/bashmaya aph b'arha:
"Your one desire then acts with ours, as in all light, so in
all forms."
5. Hawvlan lachma d'sunqanan yaomana:
"Grant what we need each day in bread and insight:
subsistence for the call of growing life."
6. Washboqlan khaubayn aykana daph khnan shbwoqan l'khayyabayn:
"Loose the cords of mistakes binding us, as we release the
strands we hold of others' guilt."
7. Wela tahlan l'nesyuna:
"Don't let surface things delude us,"
8. Ela patzan min bisha:
"But free us from what holds us back from our true purpose."
9. Metol dilakhie malkutha wahayla wateshbukhta l'ahlam almin:
"From you is born all ruling will, the power and the life to
do, the song that beautifies all, from age to age it renews, truly
power to these statements -- may they be the source from which all
my actions grow."
10. Ameyn:
"Sealed in trust and faith -- Amen."
Translation and transliteration derived from the Peshitta, the
Syriac-Aramaic version of the biblical texts.
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6.462 | | HEFTY::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Mon Nov 23 1992 14:45 | 6 |
|
"The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to
deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just."
-Abraham Lincoln
|
6.463 | The meaning of life... | ICS::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Tue Nov 24 1992 16:31 | 39 |
| I was born and grew up in a state that not only claims it knows why
I live but also takes upon itself the trouble of forcing me down the
only true road toward my designated place in society, even dictating
the course of my private life.
I believed that the meaning of my life and work came from following
this idea. For a long time I was a novice in this ideological
monastery, but with time I developed a deep distrust and my vision of
the falsity of this system of "values" became clearer. At first I
thought, "One can change things without changing one's faith." And I
tried. Then I came to realize that the faith was faulty. Or, to put
it exactly, I realized that the fault lay in the practical implementa-
tion of this ideal of seeking social justice; by appropriating monopoloy
to the socialist ideal, certain people had distorted it completely.
I have not betrayed my faith. Other people have. And, as a
result, our roads have parted. Now I find meaning in my life by
helping people understand how these paths have diverged so they can
choose the right road themselves.
There must be some supreme, universal design. Each of us comes to
life and stays in the world for a predestined period. Some leave
forever, sometimes without a trace; others stay a long time, both in
life and in memory. We remain longest -- we make a difference -- when
we manage to act not for ourselves but for others.
It is possible to create good and evil. The greatest and most
important thing a person can do is to understand that where good
exists, evil also resides; what's more, one must strive to stay on the
side of righteousness, doing one's best to promote good in the world.
Only you can make this choice. You alone will be held responsible
-- by other people, by your progeny and by history. I grieve over the
fact that I did not come to understand this universal truth earlier in
life.
-- Eduard Shevardnadze, former Soviet Foreign Minister
under Mikhail Gorbachev, founded the opposition Democratic
Reform Movement.
|
6.464 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Tue Nov 24 1992 20:48 | 6 |
|
"Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the superman...
a rope stretched over an abyss."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
|
6.465 | | ICS::BERGGREN | drumming is good medicine | Fri Nov 27 1992 12:15 | 23 |
| The meaning of life lies in the oneness of all creation, which
combines supreme diversity with supreme interdependence.
It is only now that people are learning that whatever we do as
individuals carries a consequence in society and whatever societies do
affects the whole world. We can no longer allow ourselves to pursue
ends that merely further immediate gain. We have depleted the planet's
resources, its wealth of flora and fauna. We have reduced populations
to famine and sickness. We have exploited children in the workplace
without a further thought of the consequences. Today, these
consequences have caught up with us and we are indeed threatened with
the biblical Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
There may still be time to think of the welfare of our children.
We are one with creation in time and space. We cannot hope for a
future without understanding our past. We cannot hope for health
without understanding the sources of sickness. We cannot hope for joy
unless we understand inevitable pain. We bear a great responsibility,
as much to ourselves as we do to everything that lives on air and
water.
-- Yehudi Menuhin, American violinist, made his debut with
the San Francisco Orchestra at age seven.
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6.466 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Sat Nov 28 1992 18:42 | 6 |
|
"An age is called 'Dark' not because the light fails to shine, but because
people refuse to see it."
-- James Michener, "Space"
|
6.467 | | JURAN::VALENZA | Living without Comedy Central. | Sun Nov 29 1992 20:19 | 7 |
| "Are there then more dispensations of life and mercy than one?
"Yes. For though the life and mercy in itself is but one; yet it
hath several ways of seeking-out after, and gathering into itself,
the lost sons of Adam."
-- Isaac Pennington (1617-1679)
|
6.468 | | JURAN::VALENZA | Living without Comedy Central. | Sun Nov 29 1992 21:00 | 6 |
| "O the rapes, fires, murders, and rivers of blood that lie at the doors
of professed Christians! If this be godly, what's devilish? If this
be christian, what's paganism? What's anti-christian, but to make God
a party to their wickedness?"
William Penn
|
6.469 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Mon Nov 30 1992 15:25 | 4 |
| "A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular."
-- Adlai Stevenson
|
6.470 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Mon Nov 30 1992 21:43 | 5 |
|
"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make."
-- Lennon & McCartney
|
6.471 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Mon Nov 30 1992 21:44 | 6 |
|
"A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man
contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral."
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
|
6.472 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Mon Nov 30 1992 21:45 | 7 |
|
"A person's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original
dimensions."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes
|
6.473 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Mon Nov 30 1992 21:45 | 5 |
|
"A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures."
-- Daniel Webster
|
6.474 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Mon Nov 30 1992 21:49 | 5 |
|
"A witty saying proves nothing."
-- Voltaire
|
6.475 | | DEMING::VALENZA | Go ahead, note my day. | Tue Dec 01 1992 14:20 | 36 |
| "Again and again men have tried to tell us various things about God;
how he is and what he is and how he created the world and how Jesus
became his revelation. Men have put together their accounts out of the
Bible or out of their heads, and again and again we have to recognise
that God is too great a mystery for us to comprehend. He is dwelling
in the Light unto which no man can approach. The creative mystery of
the world cannot be known through man-made doctrines and teachings.
God put in the midst of history a simple man, pure in heart and strong
in truth, giving in him the message of what we shall be and what
mankind will be.
"And behind this man stands the history by which God taught a nation to
come to an understanding a great goal roused in the inward being of its
prophets and leaders. In this history the Bible tells us of Abraham,
who had to go out from his father's house in a higher search; of Moses,
who had to take the shoes from off his feet; of Isaiah, who saw God in
the Temple; of Ezekial, who saw him by the river Chebar; of all the
prophets and poets, who denounced unrighteousness and sang redemption.
"What all these men saw of God and can tell of him is the image of the
eternal mystery in the human mind. We know that they experienced his
challenge to them and his call to their people; we know that the
continuing reality of his self-revealing leads to Jesus.
"So we read the Bible, not to construct doctrines about God or laws
about society, but to experience with men and women before us the way
God spoke to them. We hear his message and we hear how the word, the
terrifying challenge--came to them and how they obeyed, had to obey,
and how the word became and overpowering force in their lives. We do
not have to dispute with men about doctrines, and we do not have to
argue whether this or that church or this or that religion is right;
none of that matters. What matters is that people heard the word and
tried to live obedient to the light of truth, hope and love in which
the living God showed himself."
Emil Fuchs, from "Christ in Catastrophe"
|
6.476 | | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Tue Dec 01 1992 14:28 | 3 |
| "...He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sunday"
--Ian Anderson (on the Jethro Tull album _Aqualung_)
|
6.477 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Tue Dec 01 1992 16:37 | 5 |
|
"All my life I wanted to be someone; I guess I should have been more specific."
-- Jane Wagner
|
6.478 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Strength through peace | Tue Dec 01 1992 16:38 | 5 |
|
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed."
-- Sean O'Casey
|
6.479 | Who do people say the Son of Man is? | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Wed Dec 02 1992 14:32 | 25 |
| When Jesus came to the neighborhood of Ceseara Pilippi, he asked his
disciples this question:
"Who do people say that the Son of Man is?"
They replied, "Some say John the Baptizer, still others Jeremiah, or one
of the prophets."
"And you," he said to them, "who do you say that I am?"
"You are the Messiah," Simon Peter answered, "the Son of the
Living God!"
Jesus replied, "Blest are you, Simon son of Jonah! No mere man has
revealed this to you, but my Heavenly Father. I for my part part
declare to you, you are 'Rock', and on this rock I will build my church
and the jaws of death shall not prevail against it. I will entrust to
you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you declare bound on
earth shall be bound in heaven; whatever you declare loosed on earth
shall be loosed in heaven."
Then he strictly ordered his disciples not to tell anyone he was the
Messiah.
Mt 16:13-20 NAB
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6.480 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace Warrior | Tue Dec 29 1992 19:10 | 4 |
| "I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can
do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do."
- Helen Keller
|
6.481 | | DEMING::VALENZA | Cow patterned noter. | Sun Jan 10 1993 21:25 | 17 |
| Can the wind bring out
and publish for others
the fragrance
in the little bud?
Can even begetters, father and mother
display for onlookers' eyes
the future breast and flowing hair
in the little girl
about to be bride?
Only ripeness
can show consequence,
Ramanatha.
Devara Dasimayya
|
6.482 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Celebrate Diversity | Wed Jan 20 1993 17:16 | 18 |
| The church doesn't need to get caught up in theology. It needs to
get caught up in compassion.
Love bears all things.
Love believes all things.
Love hopes all things.
Love endures all things.
If you have any inclination to turn your backs on your sisters and
brothers, turn around. Face them with compassion.
It's compassion time.
- Rev. Cecil Williams
|
6.483 | Be joyful though you have considered all the facts | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Celebrate Diversity | Mon Feb 22 1993 16:06 | 11 |
| "So, friends, every day do something that won't compute.
Love the Lord. Love the world.
Work for nothing. Take all you have and be poor...
Expect the end of the world.
Laugh. Laughter is immeasureable.
Be joyful though you have considered all the facts."
- Wendell Berry
(from his poem:
_Manifesto: The Mad Farmer
Liberation Front_
|
6.484 | Jesus Knows | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Mon Feb 22 1993 21:39 | 15 |
| The apostle writes about the Savior "In whom are hidden all the treasures
of wisdom and knowledge." All the treasures, therefore, of wisdom and
knowledge are in Christ but they are hidden.
Why hidden? After the resurrection where he was asked by the apostles
about the day, he gave a very plain reply "It is not for you to know
the times or the moments upon which the Father, by his own authority,
has decided."
When he says, "It is nor for you to know", he shows that he himself does
know, but that it is not expedient for the apostles to know, so that,
always uncertain of the coming of the judge, they may live daily as
if they were to be judged perhaps on that very day.
St. Jerome,� Commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew 4:24:35, 398 AD
|
6.485 | On the Church | SICVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Tue Feb 23 1993 21:06 | 4 |
| On the Church: "In essentials, unity; in nonessentials, diversity; in
all things, charity."
St Augustine (354-430 AD)
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6.486 | to pray is to be a man carrying a man | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Tue Feb 23 1993 22:43 | 44 |
| Jesus Walking, by Anne Sexton
When Jesus walked into the wilderness
he carried a man on his back,
at least it had the form of a man,
a fisherman perhaps with a wet nose,
a baker perhaps with flour in his eyes.
The man was dead it seems
and yet he was unkillable.
Jesus carried many men
yet there was only one man --
if indeed it was a man.
There in the wilderness all the leaves
reached out their hands
but Jesus went on by.
The bees beckoned him to their honey
but Jesus went on by
The boar cut out its heart and offered it
but Jesus went on by
with his heavy burden.
The devil approached and slapped him on the jaw
and Jesus walked on.
The devil made the earth move like an elevator
and Jesus walked on.
The devil built a city of whores,
each in little angel beds,
and Jesus walked on with his burden.
For forty days, for forty nights
Jesus put one foot in front of the other
and the man he carried,
if it was a man,
became heavier and heavier.
He was carrying all the trees of the world
which are one tree.
He was carrying forty moons
which are one moons.
He was carrying all the boots
of all the men in the world
which are one boot.
He was carrying our blood.
One blood.
To pray, Jesus knew,
is to be a man carrying a man.
|
6.487 | Live the questions now | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Celebrate Diversity | Wed Feb 24 1993 11:01 | 9 |
| "...be patient towards all that is unsolved on your heart and try to love
the questions themselves like locked rooms and like books that are written
in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given
to you because you would not be able to live them. Live the questions now.
Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant
day into the answer...."
- Rainer Maria Rilke (1875-1926)
|
6.489 | The Answer is "Me" | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Wed Feb 24 1993 20:43 | 11 |
| Surveying 200 middle class Americans, the eminent UCLA psychology
professor Robert Bellah discovered that people seek _personal_
advancement from work, _personal_ development from marriage, and
_personal_ fulfillment from the church.
Everything - their perspective on family, church, community, and work -
was utilitarian; it was measured by what they could get out of it.
Concern for others was secondary.
Why America Doesn't Work, Colson and Eckerd, with reference to Habits
of the Heart, Robert Bellah
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6.490 | | SA1794::SEABURYM | Zen: It's Not What You Think | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:40 | 64 |
|
"Nirvana, the waterfall, our life and death are the same thing.
When we realize that we will have no fear of death any more, nor
any actual difficulty in our life.
I went to Yosemite National Park and I saw some huge waterfalls.
The highest one there is 1,340 feet high and from it the water comes
down like a curtain thrown from the top of a mountain. It does not
seem to come down swiftly like you might expect; it seems to come down
very slowly because of the distance. And the water does not come down
as one stream, but is separated into many tiny streams. From the
distance it looks like a curtain. And I thought it must be a very
difficult experience for a drop of water to come down from such
a high mountain. It takes a long time you know, a very long time for
the water to finally reach the bottom of the waterfall and it seems to
me our human life may be like this. We have many difficult experiences
in our life. But at the same time I thought the water was not originally
separated, but was one with the whole river. Only when it is separated
does it have some difficulty in falling. It is as if the water does not
have any feeling when it is one whole river. Only when it is separated
into many drops does it begin to have or express some feeling. When we
see one whole river we do not feel the living activity of the water,
but when we dip part of the water into a dipper, we experience some
feeling of the water, and we also feel the value of the person who
uses the water. Feeling ourselves and the water in this way, we cannot
use it in just a material way. It is a living thing.....
...When the water returns to its original oneness with the river, it
no longer has any individual feeling; it returns to its own nature
and finds composure. How very glad the water must be to come back to the
the original river ! If this is so, what feeling will we have when we
die ? I think we are like the water in the dipper. We will have composure
then, perfect composure. It may be too perfect for us just now, because
we are so attached to our own feeling, to our individual existence. For
us just now, we have some fear of death, but after we resume our true
original nature, there is Nirvana. That is why we say, "To attain Nirvana
is to pass away." "To pass away" is not a very adequate expression.
Perhaps "to pass on" or "to go on" or "to join" would be better. Will
you try to find some better expression for death ? When you find it you
will have quite a new interpretation of your life. It will be like when
I saw the water in the big waterfall. Imagine ! It was 1,340 feet high !
We say "everything comes out of emptiness". One whole river or one
whole mind is emptiness. When we reach this understanding we find the
true meaning of life. When we reach this understanding we can see the
true beauty of human life. Before we realize this fact everything that we
see is just a delusion. Sometimes we over estimate the beauty; sometimes
we underestimate or ignore the beauty because our small mind is not in
accord with reality
To talk about this way is quite easy, but to have the actual feeling
is not so easy. But by your practice of zazen you can cultivate this
feeling. When you can sit with your whole body and your whole mind, and
with the oneness of your whole body and your whole mind under the control
of the universal mind, you can easily attain this kind of right under-
standing. Your everyday life will be renewed without being attached to
your old erroneous interpretation of life. When you realize this fact
you will realize how meaningless your old interpretaion was and how much
useless effort you had been making. You will find the true meaning of life,
and even though you will have have difficulty falling upright from the
top of the waterfall to the bottom of the mountain, you will enjoy life"
-Shunryu Suzuki
From: Zen Mind, Beginners Mind
|
6.491 | | DEMING::VALENZA | Shake your notey. | Mon Mar 22 1993 08:28 | 63 |
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FRIENDLY THOUGHTS No. 9 Joel GAzis-SAx
21 March 1993 Copyright 1993
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Sometimes on my speaking tour, I walk into a room and find an
audience which was smaller than my organizer had hoped for. I
find that this true story lends power to the event nonetheless:
A few years ago, I organized a very successful Northern California
tour for Mubarak Awad, the Palestinian nonviolence advocate. When
my friend and fellow Palo Alto Meeting member Carmen Broz asked me
to arrange a talk for her about her work in El Salvador, I agreed.
I did everything I could to publicize the event: I made posters.
I made calls to local newspapers. I put out press releases.
Sunday morning came and three people came to hear Carmen. Two of
them were my wife and me. The third was a stranger, a woman whom
none of us knew who had seen one of my ads in the paper. I felt
sick with embarassment and, towards the end of Carmen's talk, I
went into the kitchen to feel sorry for myself. Carmen finished
and came in. I turned around, gushing with apologies. "I did
everything I should have," I said, "but somehow it was not enough.
I'm so, so sorry for the bad turnout Carmen. I could have done
better!"
Carmen stopped me. "But Joel," she said. "I've never met this
woman before!"
I had forgotten what undergirds Friendly activism. Our witness
values every human life, every human mind, every human voice. The
process of our own conversion to faith in the power of God begins
with our witness to one another. We must take the time, even if
only one person comes to listen.
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use of Friends through the Alliance for Progressive
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use granted. If you use this in your Meeting or Church
newsletter, please send a copy to me. Financial support for this
work is appreciated. Send checks or money order to Joel GAzis-
SAx, 2727 Midtown Court #37, Palo Alto, CA 94303.
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6.492 | 1 Corinthians 13 | BUSY::DKATZ | Elvis Has Left The Building | Sun Mar 28 1993 16:39 | 29 |
| Don't know if this was posted earlier or not...
If anyone wonders why I, as a Jew, am interested in Christianity, I
think this quote sums it up...I really think a lot of human potential
is summed up in these lines...and I wish people lived them more often
as well....
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am
a noisy gong or a clapping symbol. And if I have prophetic powers, and
understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have faith, so as
to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away
all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I
gain nothing.
Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is not
arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not
irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in
the right. Love bears all things, hopes all things, endures all
things.
Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for
tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For our
knowledge is imperfect and our philosophy imperfect; but when the
perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. When I was a child, I
spoke as a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when
I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror
dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall
understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. So faith, hope
love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
|
6.493 | | DATABS::FERWERDA | Displaced Beiruti | Tue Mar 30 1993 11:06 | 36 |
| "A recovery of the old sense of sin is essential to Christianity.
Christ takes it for granted that men are bad. Until we really feel
this assumption of His to be true, though we are part of the world He
came to save, we are not part ofthe audience to whom His words are
addressed. We lack the first condition for understanding what He is
talking about. And when men attempt to be Christians without this
preliminary consciousness of sin, the result is almost bound to be a
certain resentment against God as to one who is always making
impossible demands and always inexplicably angry. Most of us have at
times felt a secret sympathy with the dying farmer who replied to the
Vicar's dissertation on repentance by asking 'What harm have I ever
done Him?' There is the real rub. The worst we have done to God is to
leave Him alone - why can't He return teh compliment? Why not live and
let live? What call has He, of all beings, to be 'angry'? It's easy
for Him to be good!
Now at the moment when a man feels real guilt - moments too rare in
our lives - all these blashpemies vanish away. Much, we may feel, can
be excused to human infirmities: but not this - this incredibly mean
and ugly action which none of our friends would hav done, which even
such a thorough-going little rotter as X would have been ashamed of,
which we would not for the world allow to be published. At such a
moment we really do know that our character, as revealed in this
action, is, and ought to be, hateful to all good men, and, if there are
powers above man, to them. A God sho did not regard this with
unappeasable distate would not be a good being. We cannot even wish
for such a God - it is like wishing that every nose in the universe
were abolished, that smell of hay or roses or the sea should never
again delight any creature, because our own breath happens to stink.
When we merely say that we are bad, the 'wrath' of God seems a
barbarous doctrine; as soon as we perceive our badness, it appears
inevitable, a mere corollary from God's goodness."
C.S. Lewis, THE PROBLEM OF PAIN
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6.494 | It Is Easter | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Rise Again! | Mon Apr 05 1993 12:55 | 17 |
| Still the old unrest - yet it is Easter! The dawn of hope for
humankind, and a day when from people's troubled hearts the shrouded
darkness should be rolled away.
The stone should move from the dark space that held Him for a
brief while within its sheltered close. The old amaze should be as
great this Easter as it was when Christ arose.
Alas! how sadly we of earth have blundered! We have forgotten
in our race for power that avarice and greed can blot out sunshine from
any glorious hour.
Arise within our midst, O blessed Master, quiet or fears, and
bit the tumult cease. Call out our names within this ancient garden
and help us find Thy peace.
- Grace Noll Crowell
|
6.495 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Declare Peace! | Mon May 10 1993 17:54 | 5 |
|
"There can be no Kingdom of God in the world
without the Kingdom of God in our hearts."
- Albert Schweitzer
|
6.496 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Declare Peace! | Mon May 10 1993 18:11 | 17 |
|
If your heart is not full of God,
you won't see God anywhere.
But if your heart is soaked
with the sense
of God's presence, you
will see that presence.
That has do to with heart
speaking to heart and
spirit speaking with spirit.
If you have love in your
heart, wherever you
are going you
create love.
- Henri J. M. Nouwen
|
6.497 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Declare Peace! | Mon May 17 1993 17:22 | 9 |
| ". . .We should say to our children: Do you know what you are? You
are a marvel. . . You have the capacity for anything. . . And when you grow
up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel? You must cherish
one another. You must work - we all must work - to make this world worthy of
its children."
- Pablo Casals
"Joys and Sorrows"
|
6.498 | | UHUH::REINKE | Atalanta! Wow, look at her run! | Wed May 19 1993 16:29 | 43 |
| A PRAYER FOR TODAY
==================
May the LOVE of God so fill my heart that no part
of my true nature is obscured by darkness.
May the LOVE of my brothers and sisters be with
me at ALL times that we shall never feel separate.
May the PEACE of Heaven fill my days that I may
share it with those I meet.
May I realize my own strength and courage that I
would go beyond FEAR, knowing wherever I am, I am
safe in HIS LOVE.
May I express ONLY gentleness, tenderness and
compassion to ALL with whom I share this planet,
that we would truly understand and accept one another.
May I SEE NO differences between myself and anyone
else. No matter what the external appearance is, may
I see ONLY our Oneness.
May the pure, holy light of the Christ shine through
me to clarify my thoughts and words, allowing them to
be helpful to others.
May the energy of the Holy Spirit flow through my
hands that they may be used to HEAL those who truly
wish to be healed by His Blessing.
May the Real source of LOVE, PEACE, COURAGE,
COMPASSION, CLEAR SIGHT and HEALING always be apparent
to me, that I may constantly FEEL His presence and
KNOW that my body and MIND are to be USED to "Learn"
and to "share" His ways.
May I know that I am joined with Him in eternal
PEACE that I may be eternally grateful. AMEN.......
"Be Still an Instant" - A Spiritual Journal by Chandra Holsten
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6.499 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | We will rise! | Mon May 24 1993 18:24 | 11 |
| "The arguments of religious men are so often insincere, and their
insincerity is proportionate to their anger. Why do we get angry about
what we believe? Because we do not really believe it ourselves? Or
else what we pretend to be defending as the "truth" is really our own
self-esteem? A man of sincerity is less interested in defending the
truth than in stating it clearly, for he thinks that if the truth is
clearly seen, it can very well take care of itself."
- Thomas Merton
from "No Man Is an Island"
|
6.500 | Imagine | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | We will rise! | Mon May 24 1993 18:58 | 29 |
| Imagine there's no heaven
it's easy if you try
No hell below us,
above us only sky
Imagine all the people
living for today......
Imagine there's no countries
it isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
and no religion too
Imagine all the people
living life in peace......
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
a brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
sharing all the world......
You may say I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us,
and the world will be as one......
John Lennon, 1971
|
6.501 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | We will rise! | Thu Jun 03 1993 17:55 | 8 |
| Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved,
bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of �mind,� meekness, longsuffering;
Forbearing �one� another, and forgiving �one� another, if any man have a
quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also [do] ye.
- Attributed to Paul, the Apostle
Colossians 3:12-13
|
6.502 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | We will rise! | Thu Jun 10 1993 19:39 | 6 |
| Too much sanity may be madness and the maddest of all,
to see life as it is
and not as it should be.
The Man of LaMancha
|
6.503 | | UHUH::REINKE | Atalanta! Wow, look at her run! | Mon Jun 14 1993 16:16 | 23 |
|
"It is my conviction that all the great faiths of the world are true,
are God-ordained and that they serve the purpose of God and of those
who have been brought up in those surroundings and those faiths. I do
not believe that the time will ever come when we shall be able to say
there is only one religion in the world. In a sense, even today there
is one fundamental religion in the world. But there is no such
thing as a straight line in nature. Religion is one tree with many
branches. As branches, you may say religions are many, but
as a tree, religion is only one.
By religion, I do not mean formal religion, or customary
religion, but that religion which underlies all religions, which
brings us face to face with our Maker.
Supposing a Christian came to me and said he was captivated by the
reading of Bhagavat and so wanted to delcare himself a Hindu, I
should say to him: 'No. What Bhagavat offers, the Bible also offers.
You have not made the attempt to find it out. Make the attempt and
be a good Christian.'"
Mahatma Gandhi
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6.504 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend will you be ready? | Mon Jun 14 1993 16:26 | 20 |
|
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the father
but my me"
Jesus Christ
"ALL things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into
being that has come into being" John 1:3
|
6.505 | There is a spirit.... | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | We will rise! | Fri Jun 18 1993 17:26 | 23 |
| "There is a spirit which I feel that delights to do no evil,
nor to revenge any wrong, but delights to endure all things, in hope
to enjoy its own in the end. Its hope is to outlive all wrath and
contention, and to weary out all exhaltation and cruelty, or whatever
is of a nature contrary to itself.
It sees to the end all temptations.
As it bears no evil in itself, so it conceives none in thoughts
to any other. If it is betrayed, it bears it, for its ground and spring
is the mercies and forgiveness of God. Its crown is meekness, its life
is everlasting love unfeigned; it takes its kingdom with entreaty and
not contention, and keeps it by lowliness of mind.
In God alone can it rejoice, though none else regard it, or
can own its life. It's conceived in sorrow, and brought forth without
any to pity it, nor doth it murmur at grief and oppression. It never
rejoiceth but through its sufferings; I found it alone, being forsaken.
I have fellowship therein with them who lived in dens and desolate
places in the earth, who through death obtained this resurrection and
eternal holy life."
the last words of James Nayler
|
6.506 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Wed Jul 21 1993 15:44 | 5 |
| "Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, at all the times you
can, to all the people you can, as long as you ever can."
- John Wesley
|
6.507 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Fri Jul 23 1993 13:04 | 9 |
| "We are called to walk in the storm, sooner or later coming face to
face with fear. And when we recognize fear in ourselves and others, faith
calls us to do the one thing that is truly radical: to love rather than hate.
Surely, reaching out is the essential challenge of faith in these times of
fear."
- Kay Whitlock
Friends Journal
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6.508 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Wed Jul 28 1993 20:11 | 15 |
| Let us become like Christ, since Christ became like us.
Let us become God's for his sake, since he for ours became Man.
He assumed the worse that he might give us the better; he became
poor that we through his poverty be rich; he took the form of
a servant that we might receive back our liberty; he came down
that we might be exalted; he was tempted that we might conquer;
he was dishonored that he might glorify us; he died that he
might save us; he ascended that he might draw to himself us, who
were lying low in the fall of sin. Let us give all, offer all,
to him who gave himself as a ransom and a reconciliation for us.
But one can give nothing like oneself, understanding the mystery,
and becoming for his sake all that he became for ours."
- St. Gregory of Nazianzus, "Oration 1"
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6.509 | Success | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Fri Aug 06 1993 12:03 | 19 |
| Success
To laugh often and much;
to win the respect of intelligent people
and affection of children;
to earn the appreciation of honest critics
and endure the betrayal of false friends;
to appreciate beauty,
to find the best in others,
to leave the world a little bit better,
whether by a healthy child,
a garden patch or a redeemed social condition;
to know even one life has breathed easier
because you have lived.
This is to have succeeded.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that
people often say about Him: 'I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral
teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God.' That is the one thing we
must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus
said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic -
on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg - or else he would be
the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is,
the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for
a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His
feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronising
nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to
us. He did not intend to."
C.S. Lewis
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6.511 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Tue Sep 07 1993 22:33 | 6 |
| "Faith is comparable to the feet by which one journeys to God,
and love is like one's guide."
- St. John of the Canticle
Spiritual Canticle I, II
|
6.512 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Tue Sep 07 1993 22:35 | 5 |
| "Faith inspires, but love does the work."
- Rev. Jeff Huber
sermon 9/5/93
|
6.513 | | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Tue Sep 14 1993 08:44 | 4 |
| "A man should be ashamed to die until he has made a contribution to
society."
Horace Mann
|
6.514 | | DATABS::FERWERDA | Displaced Beiruti | Wed Oct 13 1993 12:42 | 8 |
| "A recovery of the old sense of sin is essential to Christianity.
Christ takes it for granted that men are bad. Until we really feel
this assumption of His to be true, though we are part of the world He
came to save, we are not part of the audience to whom His words are
addressed."
C.S. Lews, The Problem of Pain
|
6.515 | | DATABS::FERWERDA | Displaced Beiruti | Wed Oct 13 1993 12:43 | 5 |
| "It costs God nothing, so far as we know, to create nice things: but to
convert rebellious wills cost Him crucifixion."
C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
|
6.516 | | DATABS::FERWERDA | Displaced Beiruti | Wed Oct 13 1993 12:44 | 6 |
| "I willingly believe that the dammed are, in one sense, successful,
rebels to the end; that the doors of hell are locked on the inside."
C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
|
6.517 | | DATABS::FERWERDA | Displaced Beiruti | Wed Oct 13 1993 12:45 | 7 |
| "Amiable agnostics will talk cheerfully about `man's search for God.'
To me, as I then was, they might as well have talked about the mouse's
search for the cat."
C.S.Lewis, Surprised by Joy
|
6.518 | From a play, the title of which eludes me | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Tue Oct 26 1993 15:14 | 3 |
| "Reality is just a collective hunch."
- Trudy, the bag lady
|
6.519 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Sat Oct 30 1993 23:50 | 3 |
| "It takes courage to grow up and turn out to be who you really are."
- e.e. cummings
|
6.520 | | 11SRUS::DUNNE | | Mon Nov 08 1993 06:09 | 30 |
| As my prayer became more attentive and inward
I had less and less to say.
I finally became completely silent.
I started to listen
--which is even further removed from speaking.
I first thought that praying entailed speaking.
I then learnt that praying is hearing,
not merely being silent.
This is how it is.
To pray does not mean to listen to oneself
speaking.
Prayer involves becoming silent,
and being silent,
and waiting until God is heard.
Soren Kierkegaard
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6.521 | | 11SRUS::DUNNE | | Mon Nov 08 1993 06:13 | 16 |
| No defeat is made entirely of defeat---since
the world it opens is always a place
formerly
unsuspected.
A world lost,
a world unsuspected,
beckons to new places.
___William Carlos Williams
|
6.522 | Gerald Weinberg | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T) | Mon Nov 15 1993 11:25 | 9 |
| For some strange reason I find the following inspirational (or, perhaps to
be more precise, enlightening):
Naturally, we feel that mentally ill people are not what we are
looking for when we hire programmers - although there are no empirical
data to support or contradict that view.
- Gerald M. Weinberg
("The Psychology of Computer Programming").
|
6.523 | I think we're all "programmers" on this buss | THOLIN::TBAKER | DOS with Honor! | Mon Nov 15 1993 11:34 | 3 |
| Well, it certainly helps in valuing differences :-)
Tom
|
6.524 | 130 years ago today... | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Fri Nov 19 1993 08:51 | 53 |
| Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth
on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and
dedicated to the proposition that all men are created
equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether
that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated
can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of
that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that
field as a final resting place for those here who gave
their lives that that nation might live. It is alto-
gether fitting and and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate--we cannot
consecrate--we cannot hallow--this ground. The brave
men, living and dead, who struggled here have conse-
crated it far above our poor power to add or detract.
The world will little note nor long remember what we
say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us, the living, rather, to be dedicated here
to the unfinished work which they who fought here have
thus far so nobly advanced.
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great
task remaining before us--that from these honored dead
we take increased devotion to that cause for which they
gave the last full measure of devotion; that we here
highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in
vain; that this nation, under God, shall have a new
birth of freedom; and that government of the people, by
the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
Abraham Lincoln wrote this speech for the occasion of dedicating the National
Soldiers' Cemetery at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, November 19th, 1863, 5 months
after the battle that turned the tide of the Civil War. It was a little
speech that received little applause, but cut to the heart of the pain and
struggle the United States of America was experiencing at the time.
Today, we have many "civil wars" occuring in the world, some of them in the
classic sense of meaning, for example in the provinces of the ex-Soviet Union,
to more ideological wars concerning abortion, women's rights, gay rights,
human rights, racism, to the civil war of gang rivalries spreading violence
from our inner city ghettoes to our doorsteps.
Notice that in his address, Lincoln never mentions which side anybody is on,
he makes only one distinction, between the living and the dead. The dead have
already made their sacrifice, and he charges the living with attending to
their unfinished work. Not the violence, but the struggle for liberty and
equality.
Peace,
Jim
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6.525 | | TALLIS::SCHULER | Greg - Acton, MA | Tue Nov 23 1993 18:19 | 11 |
|
"There is a strong schismatic energy at work in our
Church on both sides of the Atlantic. The drive towards
schism, the compulsion to create tidy, homogeneous
ecclessial units of the usually angry and like-minded, is
essentially anti-catholic and sectarian."
The Rt. Rev. Richard Holloway, Bishop of Edinburgh
(and former Rector, Church of the Advent, Boston, MA)
|
6.526 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Pacifist Hellcat | Tue Nov 23 1993 18:51 | 5 |
| "A great many people think they are thinking when they are
merely rearranging their prejudices."
- William James
|
6.527 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Inciting Peace | Mon Nov 29 1993 17:02 | 5 |
| "Pray as though everything depended on God.
Act as though everything depended on you."
- Rabbi Hirsch (maybe?)
|
6.528 | Food for thought.. | CSC32::KINSELLA | Why be politically correct when you can be right? | Wed Dec 15 1993 19:03 | 13 |
|
"The strength or weakness of a society depends more on the level of
it's spiritual life than on it's level of industrialization. Neither a
market economy nor even general abundance constitutes the crowning
achievement of human life. If a nation's spiritual energies have been
exhausted, it will not be saved from collapse by the most perfect
government structure or by any industrial development. A tree with a
rotten core cannot stand."
Alexander Solzhenitzen
|
6.529 | A few words from an American Deist | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Sat Dec 18 1993 22:31 | 16 |
| Our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have
submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we
could never submit. We are answerable for them to our God.
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are
injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say
there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks
my leg. If it be said, his testimony in a court of Justice cannot be
relied on; reject it then and be the stigma on him. Constraint may make
him worse by making him a hypocrite, but it will never make him a truer
man. It may fix him obstinately in his errors, but will not cure them.
Reason and free enquiry are the only effectual agents against error.
-Thomas Jefferson
Notes on the State of Virginia.
|
6.530 | Starting the New Year off right | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Sat Jan 01 1994 15:32 | 7 |
| "The question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of
extremists we will be. Will we be extremists for hate or for love?
Will we be extremists for the preservation of injustice, or for the
extension of justice?"
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.531 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Sun Jan 02 1994 15:16 | 5 |
| "We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily
given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.532 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Mon Jan 10 1994 14:13 | 6 |
| "If today's church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of
the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty
of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no
meaning for the twentieth century."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.533 | Disobedience | CSC32::KINSELLA | Why be politically correct when you can be right? | Mon Jan 10 1994 19:07 | 7 |
|
"Disobedience is in fact idolatry, because it elevates
self-will into a god."
A. F. Kirkpatrick
|
6.534 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Mon Jan 17 1994 13:56 | 4 |
| "We must somehow believe that unearned suffering is redemptive."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.535 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Mon Jan 17 1994 13:58 | 5 |
| "If you are cut down in a movement that is designed to save the soul of
a nation, then no other death could be more redemptive."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.536 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Mon Jan 17 1994 14:23 | 4 |
| "A person who won't die for something is not fit to live."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.537 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Mon Jan 17 1994 17:24 | 5 |
| "We are prone to judge success by the index of our salaries or the size
of our automobiles, rather than by the quality of our service and
relationship to humanity."
-Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.538 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Mon Jan 17 1994 18:23 | 5 |
| "Love is the most enduring power in the world. This creative force, so
beautifully exemplified in the life of our Christ, is the most potent
instrument available in mankind's quest for peace and security."
-Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.539 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Tue Jan 18 1994 21:31 | 6 |
| "Every person must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative
altruism or the darkness of destructive selfishness. This is the judgment.
Life's most persistent and urgent question is, What are you doing for
others?"
-Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.540 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Wed Jan 19 1994 16:29 | 9 |
| "Everybody can be great. Because anybody can serve. You don't have to have
a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and verb agree
to serve. You don't have to know Aristotle or Plato to serve. You don't
have to know Einstein's theory of relativity to serve. You don't have
to know the second theory of thermodynamics in physics to serve. You only
need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.541 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Wed Jan 19 1994 17:42 | 7 |
| "But be assured that we will wear you down by our capacity to suffer, and one
day we will win our freedom. We will not only win freedom for ourselves, we
will so appeal to your heart and conscience that we will win you in the process,
and our victory will be a double victory."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.542 | MLK | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On loan from God | Fri Jan 21 1994 16:25 | 3 |
| "Love is the only force capable of turning an enemy into a friend."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
|
6.544 | | APACHE::MYERS | | Tue Feb 15 1994 09:38 | 3 |
| "The best thing a father can do for his children
is to love their mother."
- Some guy interviewed on NPR, 14 Feb 94
|
6.545 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | honor the web | Tue Mar 08 1994 12:20 | 33 |
|
It Matters What We Believe
Some beliefs are like walled gardens, They encourage
exclusiveness, and the feeling of being especially privileged.
Other beliefs are expansive and lead the way into wider and deeper
sympathies.
Some beliefs are like shadows, darkening children's days with
fears of unknown calamities.
other beliefs are like sunshine, blessing children with the warmth
of happiness.
Some beliefs are divisive, separating the saved from the unsaved,
friends from enemies.
Other beliefs are bonds in a universal (community), where sincere
differences beautify the pattern.
Some beliefs are like blinders, shutting off the power to choose
one's own direction.
Other beliefs are like gateways opening wide vistas for exploration
Some beliefs weaken a person's selfhood. They blight the growth
of resourcefulness.
Other beliefs nurture self-confidence and enrich the feeling of
personal worth.
Some beliefs are rigid, like the body of death, impotent in a
changing world.
Other beliefs are pliable, like the young sapling, ever growing with
the upward thrust of life.
Sophia Lyon Fahs
|
6.546 | (;^) | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Mon Mar 21 1994 12:29 | 4 |
|
"I don't have to have faith. I have experience."
- Joseph Campbell (1904-1987)
|
6.547 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Most Dangerous Child | Sat Apr 02 1994 17:19 | 5 |
| "Political revolutions produce organizers --
Cultural revolutions produce outlaws."
- origin uncertain
|
6.548 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Most Dangerous Child | Wed Apr 13 1994 19:36 | 6 |
| "Yesterday is already a dream, and tomorrow is only a vision; but today,
well lived, makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a
vision of hope."
- unknown
|
6.549 | | CVG::THOMPSON | An AlphaGeneration Noter | Mon May 02 1994 21:08 | 4 |
| "A man is not finished when he is defeated, he is finished when he
quits."
Richard M Nixon
|
6.550 | from my perpetual calendar | SOLVIT::HAECK | Debby Haeck | Thu May 05 1994 11:31 | 9 |
| "O my Lord," she cried, "I thank thee for leading me here. Behold me,
here I am, empty as was this little cove, but waiting thy time to be
filled to the brim with the flood-tide of Love."
Hinds' Feet on High Places, p. 97
Happy are those who long to be just and good, for they shall be
completely satisfied.
Matthew 5:6 TLB
|
6.551 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Copernicus 3:16 | Fri May 06 1994 18:50 | 5 |
| "Show me who makes a profit from war and I'll show you how to
stop the war."
- Henry Ford
|
6.552 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Heat-seeking Pacifist | Wed May 11 1994 19:47 | 7 |
| "Wisdom is the fruit of communion; ignorance the inevitable
portion of those who 'keep to themselves,' and stand apart,
judging, analyzing the things which they have never truly
known."
-Evelyn Underhill
|
6.553 | Our purpose | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Heat-seeking Pacifist | Tue May 17 1994 23:38 | 4 |
| "Our purpose as Christians is not to impress persons with how good we
are, but to love them so they will know how good they are."
|
6.554 | They may have good and noble intentions | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Heat-seeking Pacifist | Wed May 18 1994 01:11 | 6 |
| "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men
of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding."
- Former U.S. Supreme Court
Justice Louis D. Brandeis
|
6.555 | | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Wed May 18 1994 03:31 | 4 |
| "I believe I've finally learned what submission really means to us
women. It means to duck low enough so God can let the men have it!"
Author Unknown
|
6.556 | May 20 | SOLVIT::HAECK | Debby Haeck | Fri May 20 1994 11:43 | 15 |
| The message for May 20th on my perpetual calendar (Hinds' Feet On High
Places, Daily meditations from Hannah Hurnard):
Only when we know and share in desires of our Lord Jesus Christ, can we
really pray in his name, and not in our own.
God's Transmitters, p. 27
Whatsoever ye shall ask in my name that will I do, that the Father may
be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will
do it.
John 14:13-14 (KJV)
|
6.557 | let us hope! (;^) | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Fri May 20 1994 15:57 | 6 |
|
Re.555
I really like that one...
Cindy
|
6.558 | | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T) | Mon May 23 1994 16:42 | 8 |
| "We have been caught up in what Georgetown Professor Deborah
Tannen calls a culture of critique. One sure way to get
instant public standing in our popular culture is to slam
somebody else. If you work on bringing people together and
you talk about it, you're likely to elicit a yawn. But if
you bad-mouth people, you can get yourself a talk show."
Bill Clinton, May 20, 1994
|
6.559 | | HURON::MYERS | | Tue May 24 1994 00:21 | 9 |
| I found faith in the pouring rain
I found faith in a sweet refrain
I found faith in the sermoneer
Until assured I could persevere
I found the Lord when I could not see
Or could it be that the Lord found me.
A.J. Croce
from his song "I Found Faith"
|
6.560 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Heat-seeking pacifist | Fri Jun 17 1994 17:46 | 9 |
| A thought from an early Jewish New_Ager:
"With all my heart, I believe that the world's present system
of sovereign nations can only lead to barbarism, war and inhumanity,
and that only world law can assure progress towards a civilized, peaceful
community."
-- Albert Einstein
|
6.561 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Luke 1.78-79 | Wed Aug 31 1994 21:59 | 6 |
| The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
people to do nothing.
- Edmund Burke
1795
|
6.562 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Luke 1.78-79 | Fri Sep 02 1994 20:45 | 4 |
| "Without love, the Earth is but a tomb."
- Robert Browning
|
6.563 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Crossfire | Sat Sep 10 1994 23:44 | 4 |
| "The truth will make you odd."
- Flannery O'Connor
|
6.564 | Brother Sun and Sister Moon | TFH::KIRK | a simple song | Sat Sep 17 1994 14:18 | 99 |
| The Canticle of Brother Sun
Most high, all powerful, all good, Lord!
All praise is yours, all glory, all honor
And all blessing.
To you alone, Most High, do they belong.
No mortal lips are worthy
To pronounce your name.
All praise be yours, my Lord, with all
That you have made, and first my Lord
Brother Sun, who brings the day,
And light you give to us through him.
How beautiful is he, how radiant in all
His splendor! Of you, Most High,
He bears the likeness.
All praise be yours, my Lord, through
Sister Moon and Stars; in the heavens
You have made them, bright
And precious and fair.
All praise be yours, my Lord, through
Brothers Wind and Air, and fair
And stormy, all the weather's moods,
By which you cherish all that
You have made.
All praise be yours, my Lord, through
Sister Water, so useful, lowly,
Precious and pure.
All praise be yours, my Lord, through
Brother Fire, through whom you
Brighten up the night.
How beautiful is he! Full of power
And strength.
All praise be yours, my Lord, through
Sister Earth, our mother, who feeds us
In her sovereignty and produces various
Fruits with colored flowers and herbs.
All praise be yours, my Lord, through
Those who grant pardon for the love of you;
Through those who endure
Sickness and trial.
Happy those who endure in peace,
By you, Most High, they will be crowned.
All praise be yours, my Lord, through
Sister Death, from whose embrace
No mortal can escape.
Woe to those who die in mortal sin!
Happy those She finds doing your will!
The second death can do no harm to them.
Praise and bless my Lord, and give him thanks,
And serve him with great humility.
- Francis of Assisi
"The little town of Assisi provided the backdrop and inspiration for the
spirituality of Francis Bernardone. With eyes to *see*, Francis experienced
the presence of God in all of creation. Assisi, located in the Umbrian region
of Italy, was surrounded with natural beauty.
"Dreaming of knighthood, Francis soon realized that temporal goods could not
fulfill his dreams, but the love and service of God and God's creatures would
allow him to reach his potential.
"For Francis, even in the tiniest flower, one could see the Hand of God at
work. He saw his mission: to sing the praises of God, to serve the poor, and
call upon all creation to pour forth their praises of God.
"The _Canticle_, begun in 1225 and finished shortly before his death in 1226,
captures the spirituality, the essence, and the wisdom of Francis. A gift,
treasured by all generations since the 13th century, the _Canticle_ transcends
time and speaks to the heart of all men and women.
"Near the end of his life, Francis was losing his eyesight. He experienced
such pain in so many ways. To see God's created world caused so much joy for
him, but because of the disease any source of light caused pain. A special
room was built for him, one that no source of light could penetrate.
"Francis experienced severe depression. He could no longer see God's created
world. There was controversy over his simplicity and love of poverty, he felt
a failure. He even thought that God had left him! A dark night had befallen
him.
"Legends tell us that in this state an angel of God appeared to Francis and
told him that he would play upon the harp as the angels do before the throne
of God. Such joy he experienced! Once again Francis was aware of the
presence of God. In his own pain and suffering he had temporarily lost sight
of God who is always with us.
"Now out of this state of depression, Francis responded with his life and his
joy, singing the praises of God, composing... the _Canticle_!
...
"Upon Mother Earth, Francis, the little poor man from Assisi, lay dying. With
nothing to call his own, he was the wealthiest of all; the love of God and of
his brothers surrounded him. He requested the brothers to sing for him the
_Canticle_, the melody of which he himself had taught them. After they had
done so, Francis praised God for Sister Death...and completed the _Canticle_."
Commentary by Edd Anthony, OFM
|
6.565 | With all due respect | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Crossfire | Wed Sep 21 1994 17:47 | 7 |
| "I have great respect for theologians. They are trying to make the Christian
faith coherent and consistent. Of course, I don't think the Christian faith
*is* consistent or coherent, but that's another issue."
- Cornel West
|
6.566 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Wed Sep 21 1994 18:35 | 5 |
| "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good,
she will no longer be great." - Alexis de Tocqueville
"If God doesn't judge America, He'll have to apologize to Sodom and
Gomorrah." - Billy Graham
|
6.567 | If Truth Be Told | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Crossfire | Wed Sep 21 1994 20:53 | 8 |
| "One can never wrestle enough with God if one does so out of a
pure regard for the truth. Christ likes us to prefer truth to him
because, before being Christ, he is truth. If one turns aside from
Christ to go toward the truth, one will not go far before falling into
his arms."
- Simone Weil
|
6.568 | | POWDML::FLANAGAN | I feel therefore I am | Thu Sep 22 1994 11:37 | 11 |
| "God is great because she is good. If she seizes to be good she will
no longer be great"
A "Flanagan" paraphrase of Alexi De Tocqueville
and William Ellery Channing
I'm thinking of a quotation from Channing that says something like
We worship God not because he is all powerful but because he is good.
Patricia
|
6.569 | | GRIM::MESSENGER | Bob Messenger | Sun Sep 25 1994 13:33 | 5 |
| "But God really exists," said the old man, and my faith was restored
for I knew that Santa Claus would never lie.
- Someone's .signature from an
Internet posting
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6.570 | Guided missiles and misguided men | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Okeley-dokeley, Neighbor! | Wed Nov 23 1994 17:31 | 7 |
| "The means by which we live have outdistanced the ends for which
we live. Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have
guided missiles and misguided men."
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love
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6.571 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Fri Dec 23 1994 17:03 | 6 |
| "We should never forget that everything that Adolph Hitler
did in Germany was 'legal.'"
- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Letter from Birmingham Jail"
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6.572 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Tue Jan 03 1995 16:50 | 8 |
| "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his
creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short,
who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that
the individual survives the death of the body, although feeble souls
harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism."
-- Albert Einstein
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6.573 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Thu Jan 12 1995 16:32 | 10 |
| We are all of us all the time
coming together and falling apart.
The point is, we are not rocks.
Who wants to be one anyway?
Impermeable, unchanging,
our history already played out...
-- John Rosenthal
"Insisting On Love"
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6.574 | | RDGENG::YERKESS | bring me sunshine in your smile | Fri Mar 17 1995 04:50 | 11 |
|
Taking in alot of Bible knowledge
may give oneself a big head,
but by sounding it down into ones
heart one may gain a big heart.
-- something I once heard someone say.
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6.575 | | RDGENG::YERKESS | bring me sunshine in your smile | Tue Mar 21 1995 07:12 | 6 |
|
He who teaches his son to swim at the top of
the waterfall will not be a father for long.
--Unknown
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6.576 | More justice, less revenge | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Tue Apr 04 1995 12:43 | 8 |
| "We want more schools and fewer jails,
more books and fewer arsenals,
more learning and less vice,
more constant work and less crime,
more leisure and less greed,
more justice and less revenge."
-- Samuel Gompers
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6.577 | Violent opposition | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Unquenchable fire | Mon May 01 1995 19:33 | 4 |
| "Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."
- Albert Einstein
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6.578 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | You-Had-Forty-Years!!! | Tue May 02 1995 09:51 | 1 |
| Why...Thank You Richard!!!!
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6.579 | | APACHE::MYERS | | Tue May 09 1995 11:39 | 13 |
| Found in front of the Church of Our Redeemer, an Anglican church in
Toronto.
"The left hand of our soul is Faith, and her right
hand is Reason. Together they lead to the Divine."
Donne
I am going from memory, so if I misquoted Donne please feel free
to correct me, but I think I captured the essence of it. I believe
Donne is John Donne, a 16/17 century English poet.
Eric
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6.580 | The Real Presence is believed by Faith and Reason | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Tue May 09 1995 13:13 | 12 |
| Yes, John Donne was an English poet and priest.
He also wrote the following:
He was the Word that spake it,
He took the bread and brake it,
And what that Word did make it,
I do believe and take it.
So be sure you understand what John Donne meant by Reason.
/john
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6.581 | Imagine | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Thu Aug 03 1995 16:00 | 18 |
| "Imagine no possessions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
a brotherhood of man.
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world.
You may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.
I hope someday you'll join us,
And the world will live as one."
- John Lennon
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6.582 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | I press on toward the goal | Thu Aug 03 1995 16:50 | 1 |
| I thought it was Forrest Gump! :-)
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6.583 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Wed Aug 23 1995 13:49 | 8 |
| "We can do no great things.
Only small things with great love."
-- Mother Teresa
(quoted in "Not By the Sword"
by Kathryn Watterson)
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6.584 | | APACHE::MYERS | He literally meant it figuratively | Fri Sep 01 1995 15:30 | 12 |
|
He said, "Come to the edge."
And they said, "We are afraid."
She said, "Come to the edge."
And they said, "But we will fall."
He said, "Come to the edge."
And they came to the edge.
And she pushed them off.
And then, they began to fly.
-- Rabbi Wayne Dosick
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6.585 | | DECALP::GUTZWILLER | happiness- U want what U have | Mon Sep 11 1995 10:14 | 27 |
|
"The more a man is imbued with the ordered regularity of all events the firmer
becomes his conviction that there is no room left by the side of this ordered
regularity for causes of a different nature. For him neither the rule of human
nor the rule of divine will exists as an independent cause of natural events.
To be sure, the doctrine of a personal God interfering with natural events
could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science, for this doctrine can
always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet
been able to set foot.
But I am convinced that such behavior on the part of representatives of
religion would not only be unworthy but also fatal. For a doctrine which is
to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity
lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress.
In their struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have the
stature to give up the doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that
source of fear and hope which in the past placed such vast power in the hands
of priests. In their labors they will have to avail themselves of those
forces which are capable of cultivating the Good, the True, and the Beautiful
in humanity itself. This is, to be sure, a more difficult but an incomparably
more worthy task... "
Albert Einstein
in "Science, Philosophy, and Religion, A Symposium", published by
the Conference on Science, Philosophy and Religion in Their Relation
to the Democratic Way of Life, Inc., New York, 1941.
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6.586 | Ames Covenant 1880 | POWDML::FLANAGAN | let your light shine | Mon Sep 25 1995 12:53 | 4 |
| "In the love of Truth and in the Spirit of Jesus, we unite for the
worship of God and the service of humanity"
Ames Covenant 1880
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6.587 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Tue Oct 31 1995 09:24 | 6 |
| "A good end can't sanctify evil means, nor must we ever do evil, that good
may come of it...Let us then try what Love will do."
-- William Penn
from Some Fruits of Solitude
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6.588 | Obligation to dissent | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Sat Nov 04 1995 12:08 | 5 |
| "You have an obligation to refuse to obey any law you believe
to be unjust."
-- Henry David Thoreau
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6.589 | The most powerful and untrammeled force | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Sat Nov 04 1995 12:10 | 11 |
| "Governments know that strength is not in force, but in thought and
in clear expression of it, and, therefore, they are more afraid of independent
thought than of armies; hence they institute censorships, bribe the press,
and monopolize control of religion and of the schools. But the spiritual
force that moves the world eludes them; it is neither in books nor in papers;
it cannot be trapped, and is always free; it is in the depths of the
consciousness of [hu]mankind. The most powerful and untrammeled force of
freedom is that which asserts itself in one's soul when [one] is alone..."
-- Leo Tolstoy
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6.590 | Enslaved by own cooperation | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Sat Nov 04 1995 12:12 | 5 |
| "It is not so much guns that are responsible for our subjection as
our voluntary cooperation. Even a single lamp dispels the deepest darkness."
-- Mohandas Gandhi
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6.591 | A more distant drum | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Sat Nov 04 1995 12:13 | 7 |
| "We are called to be people of conviction, not conformity; of moral
nobility, not social respectability...In these days of world wide confusion,
there is a dire need for men and women who will courageously do battle for
truth...to listen and move to the beat of a more distant drum."
-- Martin Luther King
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6.592 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Wed Nov 22 1995 12:17 | 4 |
| "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
-- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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...that this quotation keeps showing up in my life.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we
are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most
frightens us. We ask ourselves 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented,
and fabulous?' Actually, who are we not to be? You are a child of God. Your
playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about
shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
"We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not
just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we
unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated
from our own fear, our presence automiatically liberates others."
Nelson Mandela
Inaugural Address, 1994
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6.594 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Thu Nov 30 1995 19:09 | 11 |
| "Unhappily, the world has yet to learn how to live with diversity...
To cut oneself off from the reality of difference -- or, worse, to
attempt to stamp out that difference -- is to cut oneself off from
the possibility of sounding the depths of the mystery of human life...
The 'difference' which some find so threatening can, through respectful
dialogue, become the source of deeper understanding of the mystery of
human existence... The fear of 'difference' can lead to denial of the
very humanity of 'the other'."
-- Pope John Paul II in his address to the UN, 10/5/95
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6.595 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Christ Power & Light Co. | Mon Feb 26 1996 20:11 | 5 |
| Skepticism is a religious duty; men [and women] should question their
theology, and doubt more in order that they might believe more.
-- Lucretia Mott, 1871
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6.596 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Psalm 85.10 | Fri Mar 29 1996 12:23 | 8 |
| "Be patterns, be examples, in all countries, places, islands,
nations, wherever you come, that your carriage and life may
preach among all sorts of people and to them; then you will
come to walk cheerfully over the world, answering that of God
in every one."
-- George Fox, 1656
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6.597 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Psalm 85.10 | Fri Mar 29 1996 19:29 | 5 |
| "You can't die on every cross."
-- Rev. Bill Cooper
(retired)
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6.598 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Psalm 85.10 | Thu May 30 1996 19:17 | 5 |
| "I am certain of nothing except the holiness of the Heart's
affections and the truth of the Imagination."
-- John Keats
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6.599 | Thoreau on Truth | APACHE::MYERS | He literally meant it figuratively | Wed Jul 24 1996 13:47 | 8 |
|
"They who know of no purer sources of truth, who have traced up its
stream no higher, stand, and wisely stand, by the Bible and the
Constitution, and drink at it there with reverence and humility; but
they who behold where it comes trickling into this lake or that pool,
gird up their loins once more, and continue their pilgrimage toward its
fountainhead."
Henry David Thoreau
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6.600 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | I Need To Get Out More! | Fri Sep 06 1996 12:43 | 12 |
| Cross posted this. Found this to be very prophetic!
Z If Big Brother comes to America, he will not be a fearsome,
Z foreboding figure with a heart-chilling, omnipresent glare
Z as in _1984_. He will come with a smile on his face,
Z a quip on his lips, a wave to the crowd, and a press that
Z (a) dutifully reports the suppressive measures he is taking
Z to save the nation from internal chaos and foreign threat;
Z and (b) gingerly questions whether he will be able to succeed.
Z Michael Parenti, _Inventing_Reality_ (1986)
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6.601 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Psalm 85.10 | Thu Sep 19 1996 15:50 | 9 |
6.602 | | APACHE::MYERS | He literally meant it figuratively | Mon Nov 18 1996 09:00 | 3 |
6.603 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | Be A Victor..Not a Victim! | Mon Nov 25 1996 11:37 | 3 |
6.604 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | Be A Victor..Not a Victim! | Wed Dec 04 1996 12:28 | 7 |
6.605 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | R.I.O.T. | Fri Dec 13 1996 16:10 | 3 |
6.606 | | MKOTS3::JMARTIN | Ebonics Is Not Apply | Wed Jan 29 1997 15:19 | 7 |
| "Aided by a little sophistry on the words "general welfare," they
claim a right to do not only the acts to effect that which are specifically
enumerated and permitted, but whatsoever they shall think or pretend will
be for the general welfare."
Thomas Jefferson
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6.607 | | CSC32::M_EVANS | be the village | Tue Mar 04 1997 13:49 | 8 |
|
"now the shoe, or the biker's boot, is on the other foot, and I've been
identified in the minds of millions of people as another one of those
metal scourges and scumbags, and I am being judged in the same way that
I judged. And I deserve it."
Pat Boone commenting on the reaction of his metal lite album, "no More
Mr Nice Guy"
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6.608 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Tue Mar 04 1997 13:52 | 1 |
| I thought he showed a great sense of humor.
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6.609 | | ASGMKA::MARTIN | Concerto in 66 Movements | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:02 | 7 |
| Z "now the shoe, or the biker's boot, is on the other foot, and I've been
Z identified in the minds of millions of people as another one of
Z those metal scourges and scumbags, and I am being judged in the same way
Z that I judged. And I deserve it."
Yeah, this is actually quite humorous. Kind of like Captain James T.
Kirk trying to sing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds!!
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6.610 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Spigot of pithiness | Tue Mar 04 1997 16:05 | 5 |
| Boone has always managed to tease a chuckle out of me ever since his
recorded version of a certain "Little Richard" Penneman song.
Richard
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6.611 | attitude | THOLIN::TBAKER | Flawed To Perfection | Mon Jun 02 1997 19:08 | 70 |
| >ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING.........By Francie Baltazar-Schwartz
>Jerry was the kind of guy you love to hate. He was always in a good mood
>and always had something positive to say.
>When someone would ask him how he was doing, he would reply, "If I were any
>better, I would be twins!"
>He was a unique manager because he had several waiters who had followed him
>around from restaurant to restaurant. The reason the waiters followed Jerry
>was because of his attitude. He was a natural motivator. If an employee was
>having a bad day, Jerry was there telling the employee how to look on the
>positive side of the situation.
>Seeing this style really made me curious, so one day I went up to Jerry and
>asked him, "I don't get it! You can't be a positive person all of the time.
>How do you do it?"
>Jerry replied, "Each morning I wake up and say to myself, Jerry, you have
>two choices
>today. You can choose to be in a good mood or you can choose to be in a
>bad
>mood.' I choose to be in a good mood. Each time something bad happens, I
>can choose to be a victim or I can choose to learn from it. I choose to
>learn from it. Every time someone comes to me complaining, I can choose to
>accept their complaining or I can point out the positive side of life. I
>choose the positive side of life."
>"Yeah, right, it's not that easy," I protested.
>"Yes it is," Jerry said. "Life is all about choices. When you cut away all
>the junk, every situation is a choice. You choose how you react to
>situations. You choose how people will affect your mood. You choose to be
>in
>a good mood or bad mood. The bottom line: It's your choice how you live
>life."
>I reflected on what Jerry said. Soon thereafter, I left the restaurant
>industry to start my own business. We lost touch, but often thought about
>him when I made a choice about life instead of reacting to it. Several
>years
>later, I heard that Jerry did something you are never supposed to do in a
>restaurant business: he left the back door open one morning and was held
>up
>at gunpoint by three armed robbers. While trying to open the safe, his
>hand, shaking from nervousness, slipped off the combination. The robbers
>panicked and shot him. Luckily, Jerry was found relatively quickly and
>rushed to the local trauma center. After 18 hours of surgery and weeks of
>intensive care, Jerry was released from the hospital with fragments of the
>bullets still in his body. I saw Jerry about six months after the accident.
>When I asked him how he was, he replied,
>"If I were any better, I'd be twins. Wanna see my scars?"
>I declined to see his wounds, but did ask him what had gone through his
>mind as the robbery took place. "The first thing that went through my mind
>was that I should have locked the back door," Jerry replied. "Then, as I
>lay on the floor, I remembered that I had two choices: I could choose to
>live, or I could choose to die. I chose to live.
>"Weren't you scared? Did you lose consciousness?" I asked. Jerry
>continued,
>"The paramedics were great. They kept telling me I was going to be fine.
>But when they wheeled me into the emergency room and I saw the expressions
>on the faces of the doctors and nurses, I got really scared. In their
>eyes,
>I read, 'He's a dead man. " I knew I needed to take action."
>"What did you do?" I asked.
>"Well, there was a big, burly nurse shouting questions at me," said Jerry.
>"She asked if I was allergic to anything. 'Yes,' I replied. The doctors and
>nurses stopped working as they waited for my reply. I took a deep breath
>and
>yelled, 'Bullets!' Over their laughter, I told them, 'I am choosing to
>live. Operate on me as if I am alive, not dead."
>Jerry lived thanks to the skill of his doctors, but also because of his
>amazing attitude. I learned from him that every day we have the choice to
>live fully. Attitude, after all, is everything.
>You have 2 choices now:
>1. save or delete this mail from ur mail box.
>2. forward it to your dear ones and choose to pass this on
>
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