Conference koolit::disney

    Oh I forgot to mention, I'll post a reply here as new maps are added.
    
    Claude

    I've redone  the  WDW_RESORT_*.DDIF's,  in order to make them easier to
    line up.  Look  for the cross hair's and corresponding 4 dashes (2 each
    side) in the corner opposite the map border.
    
    Also due to the fact the original map is colored and shaded in order to
    highlight the MK Resorts from the Epcot Resort from the Village Resort,
    some of the wording is hard to read since  the  output  is  in  B/W  vs
    Color,  but  you  oldtimers  will know what they are.   Also  the  Exit
    marking  for  I-4  didn't come out, going diagonally from mid right  to
    lower left they are, Exit 27, 26B and 25B.
    
    Claude

    Oh Yeah,
    
    These .DDIF  files  are  realy  .IMG (image files) saved using DECimage
    software.  Why DECimage  defaults  to  .IMG  when  saving  and DECwrite
    defaults  to .DDIF when doing a Link to an Image, and UTOX knows  .DDIF
    and not .IMG I don't know since they are the same (I beleive).
    
    Anyway don't try to edit these  with  a  standard  editor, since you'll
    only see an empty buffer.  To view these files you'll need a DECwindows
    terminal   (Xterm/Workstation)  running  either  CDA  viewer,  Utox  or
    DECwrite.
    
    To print simply specify a postcript printer queu without any additional
    parameters, like
    
        print/queu=lps20$nnn file.ddif
    
    On a LPS20 it take less than a minute to  print  each  file, while on a
    LN03/postcript  it take a while since it loading the fonts.   Not  sure
    about  other  laser  printers  since  the  office  area  only has the 2
    mentioned above.
    
    Claude

I've found that the WDW_RESORT_x.DDIF maps listed in note 308 come out 
better if you convert them to PostScript format before printing them.

ex) $ utox wdw_resort_1.ddif/ddif wdw_resort_1.ps/ps

They're slightly larger and much more readable since alot of the shading is
eliminated.  Warning...it takes about 5 minutes to convert the file, and
the PostScript file it produces is over 4000 blocks. (It still only takes a
minute or two to print it though.)

The other files I've tried it with (US and TL) didn't make any difference
whether you printed out .DDIF or .PS

    Claude, do the maps of the resorts include the trailer park located
    in Disney???  The maps are great !!  I printed all but the resorts
    yesterday for someone who is going in August!
    

    Rep to <<< Note 308.5 by JUPITR::RICHFORD >>>

>    Claude, do the maps of the resorts include the trailer park located
>    in Disney???  The maps are great !!  I printed all but the resorts
>    yesterday for someone who is going in August!

    Only the location  of  the  Fort  Wilderness  in  relation to the other
    resorts/attractions  is  specified  in the  WDW_RESORT_*.DDIF  maps,  I
    waiting for a kind sole to mail me the actual map of FW itself.  See .0
    for those maps I still need.
    
    Claude
    
    BTW I'm not to pleased with the  way WDW_RESORT_*.DDIF came out, due to
    the color shading on the original I have,  having  to  reduce at 93% to
    get the whole map on 4 8 1/2 by  11"  sheets,  feeding  them  through a
    DEC MD300 scanner into DECimage, and finally printing on a LPS or LN03R
    some of the quality get lost, light shading becomes dark etc.  Some day
    when  I  have a lot of time on my hands I'll look  for  a  really  good
    copier in good  working condition here in Salem and redo them, it takes
    a little practice to get  them  copied  right  so  everything lines up,
    since I did not cut up my original map into 4 pieces.
    
    Claude
    
    Claude

    Ok thanks to  a Moderator who'll remain annonymos (But is over the hill
    this summer at his  B'Day  Bash?)  I now have a map of the CBR.  I also
    uploaded  another  map  from  the  large  map  phamplet  and  named  it
    WDW_RESORT_5.DDIF, which is basicly a generic  map of the Orlando area,
    which shows all the major roads leading to WDW.
    
    Enjoy.
    
    Claude
    
    BTW if you make a copy of  a map to send to me, make sure everything is
    legible as well as not to dark if  there  is  shading  envolved,  since
    it'll only darken up when I scan it, and  more  so  when  you print it.
    Also send me a mail message so I know to expect a map from you.

    Rep to <<< Note 308.6 by SALEM::BERUBE_C "Where do you think you are? WDW!!" >>>

>    Some day
>    when  I  have a lot of time on my hands I'll look  for  a  really  good
>    copier in good  working condition here in Salem and redo them, it takes
>    a little practice to get  them  copied  right  so  everything lines up,
>    since I did not cut up my original map into 4 pieces.

    Well since my afternoon meeting was cancelled, I decided to give it one
    more shot, (didn't  take  as  long  as I thought it would) I now have a
    cleaner and slightly smaller (disk blocks) version of WDW_RESORT_1.DDIF
    thru 4.  These will  be  the last time I do these since I can live with
    it.
    
    Claude

    	O.K., I ain't getting this.  I've tried a bunch of times to print
    one of these babies with no luck.  Granted what I know about this stuff
    would fit in tinkerbells shoes, but I followed the directions (copied 
    the file over, sent it to a postscript printer) and I just get a cover
    page and that's it.  Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong??
    
    Thanks
    Tom

    Rep to <<< Note 308.9 by BUSY::TBUTLER >>>

    Tom,
    
    Well for starters  make  sure  the  queu  you  are  selecting  is for a
    Postscript printer (ie LPS20, LN03R etc).   Also  make sure you are not
    using a symbol for printing defined in your  login.com  that  might  be
    specifying a param=(data_type=postscript).  What you want to do  is use
    the  standard  PRINT  command  supplied by VMS (assuming your on  VMS),
    suplling only the /QUEU qualifier to a postscript printer, ie
    
        PRINT/QUEU=LPS20$PELPS WDW_RESORT_*.DDIF
    
    and it better work (it does for Mike_S and me).   If  you  are  using a
    symbol  defined  in    your    login.com    with    a    qualifier   of
    param=(data_type=postscript),  then  the postscript  printer  will  sit
    there  forever  processing, because it's  looking  for  the  postscript
    command in the file which isn't there.
    
    Note that I don't redefine  the  VMS  PRINT  command in my login.com to
    point to any specific queu or  form  etc.    I  use  other symbols like
    LPRINT to point to a LN03 or PSPRINT for postscript.
    
    Claude

    I've successfully printed the Kennedy Space Center file just by 
    following Claude's directions. Ain't technology wonderful! It 
    looks just like a photocopy of the original in my office!!
    
    Mike B.

    Ok thanks to Bill Abrams we now have another way to print in  case  you
    still can't  following my directions, (I haven't had to use the CONVERT
    command in ages,  I should of thought of this myself, guess I had to do
    a lot of memory dumping in order to plan my last trip ;^))
    
    Copy the files across into  your  account,  and  assuming you have mega
    disk space (5k per file) do the following 
    
         CONVERT/DOC file.DDIF file.PS/FORM=PS
    
    to create a postscript version of the file then issue the print command
    as follows (this file will be over 4k blocks)
    
         PRINT/QUEU=nnn/PARAM=(DATA_TYPE=POSTSCRIPT) file.PS

    Claude
    
    BTW I have created the  file WDW_MAPS_READ.ME which describes the files
    in the directory, and the 2 methods of printing.
    
    PS I not to concern with the quality of the  maps  (handwritten  circle
    etc) since these maps are provided for planning purpose only, once  you
    go  you'll have the opportunity to pick up the real things to  decorate
    your office walls with ;^).

    Well thanks to Annie and Stan Lund, we now have a 2 page version of the 
    Dixie Landings map (16 by 24" reduced at 65%) available at
    
        SALEM::USER$DISK19:[BERUBE_C.WDW_MAPS]WDW_DIXIE_LANDINGS_*.DDIF
    
    there was a  1  page  map,  but  I  like the artistic value of this one
    better.
    
    Claude

    Thanks to Bill Abrams who did some scanning of his own, I now have some
    NEW as well as improved (no hand drawn circles) of the following maps
    
        WDW_BEACH_YACHT_CLUB.DDIF       new

        WDW_CARIBBEAN_BEACH.DDIF        improved, replaces old map

        WDW_CONTEMPORARY.DDIF           new

        WDW_PELASURE_ISLAND_MARKET.DDIF new/different,  replaces  old  map,
                                        includes Disney Village Marketplace

        WDW_PORT_ORLEANS.DDIF           improved, replaces old map

        WDW_TYPHOON_LAGOON.DDIF         new/different, replaces old map
        
    
    Claude

    Thanks to  Ken  RAGS::KUSCHER, I now have a map of the Vacation Club on
    line at
    
        SALEM::USER$DISK19:[BERUBE_C.WDW_MAPS]WDW_VACATION_CLUB.DDIF
    
    Claude

    Thanks to Steve Young, I now have a map of Fort Wilerness on line at
    
        SALEM::USER$DISK19:[BERUBE_C.WDW_MAPS]WDW_FORT_WILDERNESS.DDIF
    
    Claude

    As of  this  moment  the  WDW maps no longer reside on SALEM.  The mods
    have copied them  for  safe  keeping and Ruth will be posting their new
    location once she gets a chance where they should be located.
    
    Claude

    Hi,
    
    Any further info on where the new maps can be copied from.
    
    

    The maps (along with a "read me" file) can be found at
    closet::w16_:[lowell.disney]*.ddif.  The "read me" file
    is called wdw_maps_read.me.

    
    I can not seem to copy an of the maps from
    closet::w16_:[lowell.disney]*.ddif
    
    Can any one help me.
    
    
    
    Della

    I think CLOSET is experiencing some network problems. Keep trying.
    
    Mike

    
    Well after trying all day yesterday.  I was finally able  to get the
    last night.  
    
    
    Thank you the maps.  they are a big help
    
    
    Della

What, a hidden note (.22) in the DISNEY notes file?  Egad!  Whatever could
cause such a thing...?
						-- Nina

	It's ok, really.

	The system manager of the DISNEY host cluster wants to direct
	notes-server activities to CLOSET:: only. So the alternative
	cluster member names were hidden.

	-Pasi-

Are the maps available anywhere other than CLOSET?  I haven't had
any luck getting them from there (System unreachable).  Thanks
for any help.
    

    The location of the maps has changed.  They're still on
    CLOSET but are on a different device.
    
    The maps (along with a "read me" file) can be found at
    closet::w18_:[lowell.disney]*.ddif.  The "read me" file
    is called wdw_maps_read.me.
    
    If CLOSET isn't available you may access the files through
    VAXUUM.  Please restrict any access to VAXUUM to off hours
    if possible (VAXUUM is in use from 8:00-5:00 EST).
    
    Ruth

Sorry to bother you Ruth -  I tried pulling the maps over from the location
specified, but I get a "directory not found" message.

thanks - peter

    Sorry about that Peter.
    
    The maps (along with a "read me" file) can be found at
    dssdev::disk$forms$userc:[lowell.disney]*.ddif.  The
    "read me" file is called wdw_maps_read.me.
    
    Ruth

thanks Ruth - I was able to pull them over.

peter

    Ok noters, here is a toughie.  I'd like to convert the maps to use on
    my PC & Mac.  Does anyone know of a utility (PC or MAC) that converts
    DDIF files to PCX or any other PC or MAC readable bitmap format?

>                <<< VAXUUM::W7_:[NOTES$LIBRARY]DISNEY.NOTE;1 >>>
>                       -< The Disneyphile's Disney File >-
>================================================================================
>Note 308.31                 WDW maps are now on line                    31 of 31
>PHDVAX::JMCGLINCHEY                                   3 lines  12-APR-1994 10:17
>                    -< ddif to pcx or macpaint converter? >-
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    Ok noters, here is a toughie.  I'd like to convert the maps to use on
>    my PC & Mac.  Does anyone know of a utility (PC or MAC) that converts
>    DDIF files to PCX or any other PC or MAC readable bitmap format?
>

Ok, I'm going to answer my own question, since nobody else out there really
seems to care! 8-(  Well, at least 1/2 of the answer.  

Using UTOX, a product in the assets library, I can convert from DDIF to 
many other formats.  Only problem is that UTOX requires a Graphics workstation.
Since I don't have one, I can't use UTOX to convert these files.

If any one would mind making MACPAINT or TIFF or PICT versions of these files
for me I would surely appreciate it.

John

    John,
    
    Here are the File Formats UTOX saves to. Can you use any of these?
    
     DECwindows Pause Screen            SDML (I don't think so)
     DDIF (I guess this is out)         Sixel (Maybe?)
     FSE (Bookreader)                   TEK 4693 (I have no clue)
     PostScript                         UTOX
                                        UTOX Bitmap
    
    Mike

    Thanks, but it looks like any of the formats that UTOX can output are
    not compatible with PC's or MAC's.   I'll keep looking for another
    conversion utility.  Anybody have any other ideas?  I'm also going to
    post in the PC and MAC shareware notes files..
    
    John

    
    
    what about XV?  It puts out GIF, PM, PBM, X11 Bitmap, Sun Rasterfile,
    BMP, Postscript, IRIS, JPEG, TIFF.
    
    Not sure all the formats it reads in, but I know it reads GIF's and
    DECwindows screen...  I've used it (and CDA Postscript previewer) to
    "copy" Postscript files to BMP format to include into my Powerpoint
    presentations.
    
    Of course you'd still need some type of windows interface...
    
    
    John
    

    From your previous msg and the mail you sent me it looks like XV could
    do the job but I still don't have a DECWINDOWS device to use as an
    intermediary.  I'd like to get these things in TIFF or PICT or PCX or
    GIF format.  I tried CONVERT/DOC from DDIF to MACPAINT and it works
    fine, but the detail is lost since macpaint's resolution is pretty
    crude.
    
    John

    Now I have THE answer!
    
    The CDA converters will do the job, but the version I have is out of
    date and I don't have priv's to install the newest version.  Soooo....
    Could someone convert these to TIFF for me?
    
    The command should be :
    
    	convert/doc file.DDIF/format=ddif file.tiff/format=tiff
    
    Then I can download the TIFF versions and include them in my documents.
    
    Thanks,
    
    John