Conference koolit::disney

    Good idea for a topic.
    
    In the past I have had relatives or friends take us to and from Logan
    airport.  No problems except for the last trip, the person was late and
     we only
    made it to Logan 10 minutes before flight time!  What a mad dash that
    was!  I have taken Hudson Bus Lines once - no complaints, I was there
    in plenty of time.
    
    As for myself, I've taken people in and out of Logan airport many times
    and am not intimidated by it.  I think it could be made worth my while
    to if necessary.
    
    Kathy
    

    We use the Park and Fly option. It's not quite as expensive as it
    looks. They have a weekly rate of $50, so from Saturday 6:00 AM to a week 
    from Sunday 9:00 PM cost us $68 (1 week for $50 plus 2 days at $9).
    Your eleven days would be 1 week at $50 plus 4 days at $9 or $86. The 
    car goes when you want to go. No waiting or delays.   
    
    We have had friends or relatives pick us up several times, but each
    time our flight was late or some other complication. I hate
    inconveniencing people or making them wait. 
    
    Linda 

    A "non-obvious" "drive yourself" alternative; rather than driving
    YOUR car and parking at the airport for an extended length of time,
    consider RENTing a car for the drive TO the airport, and another
    for the drive FROM the airport.  The rental costs for two one-way
    rentals aren't much more than the cost to park for a week or more,
    plus you don't leave YOUR vehicle in an airport parking lot (and
    suffer the ignomities of freezing cold car/piles of snow and the
    possibilities of theft/damage/whatever).
    
    In eastern MA/southern NH it often works out cheaper to rent one-way
    than to take a limo one-way.
    
    

    Or you can do what I'm doing, skip Logan and fly out of Manchester, and
    only pay $4/day long term and not worry about your car since everyone I
    know who has used Manchester has had no problem.
    
    When I checked into  airfare  last  fall both Logan and Manchester were
    the same price.
    
    In the past I used the limo and rent one way Avis.
    
    Claude

    
    re: .3, I hadn't thought of doing one-way rentals; We still have to
    	drive and then would have to go the night before to rent the car
    	and then drop it off before cathcing our 7:00am flight. I'll call
    	and see what the one-way rentals are from Nashua to Logan; unless
    	someone knows.
    
    re: .4; The northwest non-stop specials are out of Logan for $218RT;
    	they don't do out of Manchester, we would have had to take a
    	shuttle from Manchester to Boston; which wasn't worth the time.
        The fares currently lowest priced fares from Manchester or Boston
    	are the same but were in the 360/380 RT per person. So the
    	$218, with up to $50/person RT from house to Logan is still
    	alot less (268) than the 382/402 current fare (360/380 + 1/2
    	the $44 for parking in manchester). Yes we could have just
    	gotten that fare, and then hoped they'd offer a lower rate
    	and our flights would qualify to be reduced, but not worth
    	the chance. If we could have gotten a RT fare in the $260
    	range from Manchester we would have taken it!
    
    Keep up the good info!
    
    		- Annie
    

Hmmm..last time I flew someplace (out of Manchester) I checked to see what
one-way rentals would be if I picked up the car the night before. It was very 
expensive, something like $50 or more. We ended up just taking a cab for
$20 (we live in Goffstown). Even a limo to Boston was cheaper than a rental.
I would never park in Manchester's lot. I don't know what security is like
now, but about a year ago break-ins were very common.

Jenna

    re. .5
    
    Annie,
    
    When your going during a Spring School Vacation week for  NH like I am,
    which  is  1  week  after  Easter  this year, you are very  limited  to
    specials if any, and flying out of Manchester makes sense.
    
    re. .6
    
    Jenna,
    
    When I said  one-way  rentals, I meant to Logan, I'd take the taxi/Limo
    to Manchester (I live in Goffstown too) before taking a one-way rental.
    As to the security, they  have  beefed  it up over the past year, added
    security  gates and such.  But  even  then  those  folks  who  went  on
    business that I know over the past couple of years or so and left their
    cars had no problem.  Either the people I know very very lucking or ...
    
    
    Claude

    Since we live in MA flying out of Boston is more convenient for us, 
    plus there is a chance of a nonstop to Orlando. From Manchester there
    is at least a stop, if not a plane change. We usually leave very early, 
    before traffic is an issue, so we make it from Billerica in 30-45 minutes. 
    
    The security at Park and Fly in Boston is very good. We have used it
    for years and never had a problem. There is a high fence, it is well 
    lit, and it is patrolled 24 hours a day.  
    
    I would NEVER leave my car in the Logan garage. Friends have experienced 
    theft, vandalism, and hit and run.
    
    Linda

    
    I called AVIS... Wow, and for this price they won't charge you for one
    way drop-offs!!!!
    
    	Nashua - Logan : $49.95
    	Logan to NAshua : $75.05!!!
    
    They can keep their one way rates....
    
    	- Annie
    
    

The DEC rate of one way rentals from the Sheraton Tara to Logan and vice versa
is about $31.50.

I use this method all the time when going on a business trip with more than
one person or a personal trip with my family.  It is the least expensive method
if you are staying a week and don't have a friend to drive you in/pick you up.

-Jay

re: .0

>    - Find someone else to drive you and pick you up

There is something to be said about having friends (or relatives) who are
close enough, both physically and emotionally, so that such impositions
are not an issue.  While there have been times when the most convenient
methods were to drive in or take a limo, I like knowing that I have friends
that I can count on, and that they can count on me, and not just for
trips to Logan for vacations.  So the answer to

>	- If you don't mind driving to Boston and getting up at 4amish
>    	to take someone to Logan and then pick them up on a Sunday
>    	early evening, what would make it worthwhile?

is the knowledge that they would do the same for me.

   Gary

    Annie,
    
    Avis has a really good one-way rental to Logan using the DEC rate.  For
    the latest DEC rates for Avis, which is around $33  from  Manchester to
    Logan if I remember can be found in VTX TRAVEL, the  Corp number can be
    found there as well as in the Car Rental note in here.   The nice thing
    with Avis's DEC rate is you can use it for personnal travel and the CDW
    is  included as well.  However for the time I going in April/May it was
    cheaper to  go  with  the  Florida  promotional rate for 8 days $149 vs
    $199.
    
    Claude

    
    I get friends or relatives to drive me to and from the airport.  But then
    I live in Colorado Springs and the airport is 15 to 20 minutes away.

    My dad had enough experience with late flights that he knows to call
    the airlines to see if the flight is on time. 

    When my parents went to Hawaii, I had the honor of picking them up in
    Denver (about an hour and a half away).  I kept checking with the airlines.
    They had a stop in San Francisco and were delayed.  It worked out really
    well.  I got to Denver a couple of minutes before their plane landed.
    At that time, parking for the first half hour was free.  (BTW, this was
    a late night flight so I didn't have to worry about rush hour traffic,
    etc.)

    My girlfriend and I are leaving tomorrow (1/15) - we're flying from
    the Worcester airport instead of Logan because it's more convenient
    to get to and we don't have to hazzle with the traffic.  The 
    disadvantage is we need to make a transfer in Pittsburgh, only a
    40min. layover, it's not too bad.  My friend's mother is driving us
    and my husband and kids will pick us up.
    
    /debbie
    
    p.s.  anybody know what the weather in orlando will be for the rest of
    this week????

    I've used the Avis solution many times from southern N.H. to Logan. The
    corporate rates are very reasonable as previously mentioned. Many times
    I've mentioned to the Avis people that we have alot of luggage and four
    plus people. In turn they would upgrade the car size and not charge us
    for it. It works out to be the best way for us toget to Logan!
    
    Bob

This is a really useful note.
I was considering the alternatives wrom Westborough Ma to Logan.

Knights limo would be $60 each way.
2*$60 = $120;

Park andd Fly seems to be the way to go at $7/day (with coupon).
9*$7 + $8 (gas and tolls) = $71

One way rental seems like a hassle picking up and dropping off the car.

There is another approach that is to get the logan express, but again there
would be hassle involved in getting to there pickup point.

I think Park and Fly is winning.

Questions:

	1) Do you have to book a space at Park and Fly?

	2) Does the Airport and Park and Fly ever run out of space at peak
	   vacation times?

    Here's what we've done in the past:
    
    1)  Hudson Limo or equivalent
        - Pick a stop which has a place for you to park your car
        - Drive your car to the stop the day you leave
        - Have a friend pick up your car if extended parking isn't
          allowed or you don't feel comfortable leaving your car;
          Have your friend drop off your car before you return
        - Drive home
    
        We took the limo from the Holiday Inn at the Amoskeag
        Bridge exit off of 293 in Manchester, NH and had a neighbor
        pick up and drop off our car at her convenience.
    
    2)  Take bus to Logan
        - Use same process as above
    
        We took the bus from the Holidy Inn on the corner Granite St.
        and Elm St. in Manchester, NH.  We parked our car in their
        parking garage while we were gone.
    
        If we were to fly out of Logan again, we'd consider driving
        our car to the Park 'n' Ride in Londonderry and making
        arrangements to have our car picked up and dropped off.
    
    3)  Take Flight Line limo or equivalent (not sure if they're
        still in operation)
    
        We took Flight Line from Manchester, NH to Logan.  It is
        similar to the Hudson Limo, you ride in a van which makes
        multiple stops, but you are picked up at your house.  Our
        driver had trouble finding some passengers but we made it
        to the airport with plenty of time to spare.
    
    4)  Take a real limo
        - Make your reservations way in advance, especially if your
          trip coincides with prom season or wedding season
        - Our limo didn't have seatbelts for the rear-facing seat.
          You might want to ask about seatbelts if it concerns you.
    
        We took a stretch limo from Derry, NH to Logan.  We had 4
        adults and 2 babies in car seats.  The round trip cost was
        about the same as 6 round trip tickets on the Hudson Limo.
        In fact, I think it was less.  We were somewhat cramped
        but enjoyed the ride.  I don't remember what company we
        used.
    
    
    Ruth

    re:.16
    
    Once, when we were flying out during the week, Park and Fly was full. 
    If that happens, they askyou to leave your ignition key and they
    double park your car. (I wasn't thrilled about the idea, but it was 
    late.....). As the regular spaces open, they move your car into a
    space, seal the key into an envelope with your name and registration 
    on it, and put that in the office. When you return, you stop at the
    office, they give you the key and tell you where your car is, then they 
    drop you off at the car. They seem to be very responsible about the
    cars. 
    
    My impression is that they run out of space more often during the week, 
    since business travellers use the services then. Our experience was on 
    a Thursday. When we left on a weekend there has never been a problem.
    
    

re:-.1

They have always taken my keys when I use them (about 4 times)...especially when
I'm gone for more than 4 days.

re:.16

Although it sounds like it would be a hassle I've found that there is little
difference between park and fly and renting a car.  You have to ride a shuttle
to/from the park and fly lot as well as the AVIS lot.  And since I have
one of those AVIS Express Memberships the car is always right next
to the rental office and ready for me when I arrvie (actually I'm a bit 
surprised by this...since these types of memberships never seem to work out as
they were intended)...

From Westborough it might be different though since my pickup/drop off for
the car is at the Sheraton Tara in Nashua and I work in Nashua so there are
no hassles picking up and dropping off the car.

-Jay  

Here's what I do:  

"Hello, Mom?  Can you take us to the airport and pick us up
when we get back?"

"Sure, dear."

  :-)

							-- Nina

	I've had great luck flying from and parking at Manchester, NH. 
	aitport!  The prices of tickets are a few dollars lower, too.  

	Dave

Re: .20 "what are mothers for?"

This is the best solution I've seen so far.  Nina, could you post your
mother's phone number?

Actually I've had very good luck with the Logan Express bus from Shoppers'
World in Framingham.  It is very handy if you live anywhere in the Metro-
West area.

The bus costs $7.00 per person, each way.  Kids under 12 (I think) are free.
Last time I used it parking in an attended lot was $4/day.  It may be up to
$5 now.

The bus leaves every � hour in both directions, and drops you right at the 
terminal.

There is also a Logan Express bus from Braintree on roughly the same schedule.

For information on either, call MassPort - 800-23LOGAN.

> This is the best solution I've seen so far.  Nina, could you post your
> mother's phone number?

Um, I don't think Mom would be too keen on that... :-)

RE a couple back: Flying out of Manchester is great.  We did that last Christmas
when we went to my S.O.'s parents (they live in Sebring, but we usually fly into
Orlando).   It wasn't a direct flight, though; we had to change in Boston. So
we took a little baby plane from Manchester to Boston (a 15-minute flight)
and took a Real Plane from there to Orlando.  We had about a 45-minute wait
between connections, but it was worth it not to have to drive to Boston!
(Chauffeur Mom would rather drive to Manchester than Boston, anyway. :-) )

There wasn't any price difference between flying Manchester-Boston-Orlando
and Boston-Orlando (round trips), either.

								-- Nina

    I don't know if this should go here or not.  I just received some
    business travel tickets from Amex Travel and there is a coupon for Park
    N' Fly at Logan worth $9.  It expires 3/31/92.  I have no need to park 
    there and if anybody is planning a trip and wants it, I'll send it via 
    mail.  Please call me at DTN 297-4494.
    
    Jeanne

    FYI, when you call Park n' Fly you get a recorded message with all the
    information you need on rates and how to get there. They also mention
    that discount coupons are available from travel agents. I didn't have
    time to try to get one, however.
    
    Also, when we went to Park 'n Fly last Thursday, the lot looked
    pretty crowded, but we managed to get a spot without much trouble. 
    My impression of their operation is that it's no-frills, but well-run 
    and dependable. They have to be, they're not the only game in town, ad
    their chief advantage over the Logan garage is security and a slight
    price advantage. (Though you could conceivably come back and find your 
    car under a foot of snow.)
    
    Ed
    

    Last year, I decided to use Park-N-Fly during the April school vacation 
    week. I had used them before with good results. I , even, got a coupon 
    from AMEX for $1.00 off per day. When we arrived the lot was full! They 
    asked me if I had a reservation. I didn't. Fortunately there was
    another lot down the street that could accomodate us. 
    
    So, if you plan on using Park-N-Fly, call ahead and reserve. 
    
    don

Logan express works out to be competative on price.

I phoned the number (1-800-23logan) mentioned earlier in theis topic and the prices
are as stated with the exception of a higher price for weekdays.
$4.00 / day parking ($24 for 7 days)
$8 each weekdayas and $5 each weekends on the bus.

The busses run until quite late, so that allows for some flight delay.

Getting there might be a problem though, I think it comes down to wanting to
control my own destiny.

By using Park'n'Fly I can leave for Boston as soon as Rowena gets home from
School (about 3:15ish) and miss most of the rush hour traffic.

I tried phoning the park'n'fly number on the Coupon I have (617-569-1644)
and a recording just gives info and says reservations are not necessary.

Does anyone have a number that gets a real person who will take reservations.

    For those of you in the Baltimore/Washington area, the Park 'n Go at
    the BWI airport has a Digital discounted rate of $5/day. This is a
    24-hour secure lot, and the van drivers help with luggage. Also, if
    you are returning and need a jump start, to replace a tire, etc.,
    they will also help! Just mention that you're with DEC. We paid $40
    for 8 days of parking while away at the World. 
    
    

    I may be wrong but....
    
    Last time I parked at Logan airport, it was $10 a day or $50 max for
    one week. That's reasonable enough to take your own wheels. As far as
    having your car vandlized or stolen, what are the odds of your car, I
    wouldn't leave my Mercedes (not that I own a Mercedes) there for a week.
    You probably have just a good a chance having something happening to
    your car at the parking lot at work as you would Boston. I had a car
    stolen out of DEC parking lot before.
    Another option for those who have a few extra bucks, rent a Stretch
    limo. I have seen advertisements for a little as $99. for 3 hours.
    It's not that bad compared to some of the one-way rentals, aka; Logan
    to Nashua for $75. thats ridiculous!
    
                                    Jeff

    re:-.1
    
    Yup, there is a $50.00/week max currently at the airport. Still a
    $32.50 one way rental is a deal some of the times.  I just returned
    from Florida this week where I was training for rowing for a week.  I
    came in too late for my wife to pick me up and the shuttle companies
    shutter when I show up with eight foot oars (they end up charging me
    for them).  I just rented a car to nashua and strapped them to the
    roof.
    
    -Jay
    

           
           Anyone know what a taxi or "shuttle" costs from Nashua to
           Manchester airport?  It would be $28/week (@$4/day), right?
           How safe is it?
           
           Steve
            

    Rep to <<< Note 294.31 by 16337::SCARDIGNO "God is my refuge" >>>

>           Anyone know what a taxi or "shuttle" costs from Nashua to
>           Manchester airport?  
    
    Try  calling the Airport or local taxis?  Manchester Airport  Authority
    has put out a blue pamplet describing the services etc available,  Give
    Manchester Airline and Airport Info a call at (603) 624-6556, and asked
    them to send you one.
    
>    It would be $28/week (@$4/day), right? How safe is it?
    
    I assume  your  referring to the long term parking at the airport, I've
    heard from several  folks  here  in Salem who have used it for business
    travel  that they had  no  problems.    Other  however  have  heard  of
    break-ins, but I haven't and  in  the  last  couple  of years they have
    gated the area and there is  now  a full time attendant (at least while
    there's flights).

           Anyone taken a shuttle to Logan lately?  What's a one-way cost
           from Nashua?
           
           Steve

    How many people in your party going? We found it cheaper to rent a car
    down to Logan and back.
    
    My last guess would be between $16-$20 per person.
    
    
    Bob
    
     

re:-.1

Using the corporate rate a one way rental from AVIS from the Sheraton TARA to 
Logan or back is about $32.00.  I use this all the time and for me it 
is by far the most cost effective way.  

-Jay

    Jay, 
    
    That's exactly what we do, but from Merrimack!
    
    Avis from the Merrimack Inn or whatever they call it now.
    
    With an AVIS Preferred Card, or even as a DEC employee, you
    automatically get a free upgrade to a larger vehicle which helps.
     
    Bob
    

    Flying out of Boston on the 17th of July for two weeks in Orlando and I
    am driving to Boston from Augusta, Me. I really rather not leave my car
    at the airport parking lot and I hate to ask someone to spend up to
    eight hours twice to drop me off and pick me up. Someone had mentioned 
    something about motels/hotels around the Boston airport that would let you 
    park your car in thier lot, shuttle you to and from the airport if you 
    spend the night at thier hotel. Has anyone ever done this? If so, what 
    hotel would you recomend and was it worth it? What are the rates for an
    overnite stay?
    
Thanks in Advance, Paul

RE .37 -- We did exactly that last fall when we went to Hawaii.  Our travel
agent recommended a hotel in Revere and made the reservation for us.  Now I'm 
not sure of the name, but I think it was a Howard Johnson's...?  Anyway, it 
was about 15 minutes from Logan Airport.  If I remember correctly, the cost
was $79 a night.  We stayed there just one night and left my car there for 
two weeks. They took us to the airport, and when we returned, we called them 
from Logan and they came and picked us up.  The car was fine (kind of dusty 
from being near the highway, though).

It's not exactly the most scenic location in the world, being on a busy street
with a bunch of strip malls and near a major highway (Rte. 1), but who cares
if you're only there one night? :-)  The room was adequate.

You might ask a travel agent whether they have any information; I don't know
whether Augusta-area agents will have info on these deals around Boston, but
they might.  Or you could call my travel agent at the AAA Travel Agency in
South Nashua (not sure whether you have to be a AAA member, but I don't think
so), Paula Hancock, (603)891-1070 or 1-800-222-7448.  She's extremely nice.
Feel free to mention my name... ;-)

Hope this helps.
							-- Nina

    re 38.
     Thanks for the info. I did contact my AAA agent in Augusta and she
    booked us in the Comfort Inn in Revere. $99/night. They also will let
    you leave your car and shuttle you back and forth to the airport. $99
    was a little more than I wanted to spend, but oh well.
    
      Does anyone know what the Park & Fly places charge?
    
                                                 Paul
    

    Park and Fly is $50 per week and $9.50 per day. 
    
    Linda

    re -1   $50 a week "+" $9.50 a day???  or  $50 a week "or" $9.50 a day?
    
    Also, does anyone have a current phone number?
    
    thanks, Paul

    It is $50 per week (7days) plus $9.50 per day in excess of a week. 
    I was gone for 8 days, it cost me $59.50. 
    
    Linda

    Regarding "Park and Fly" costs....
    
    	I also got a $10.00 off per week coupon the last time I flew for
    the company.  It was through American Express, just prior to Thomas
    Cook taking over our travel services.  You may want to check with your
    travel agent to see if they have any specials or discounts they can
    forward you.
    
    Tony

It is semi related (please move if there is a better place).

I think this is a great question...bit of info.

Thanks Julie

The parking alone would cost you about $65.00 for the week at the airport.  No,
I haven't done this..

-Jay

    How:    Capital $198 R/T thru Shaws Jetaway, since their flights leave at
            7:00am (yawn) we're staying over the night before at Comfort Inn,
            Revere $85 and includes parking for the week.  Has anyone ever
            done this, is it safe?

  

RE .44 - already covered - see .37, .38, and .39.

					-- Nina