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> Is this correct, or was I just confused? Could these half-wits on the
> half-shell have actually come out of the sewer and ended up in the
> World? I can't believe that such a violent image belongs in the Disney
> fold.
Len,
from my entry in topic 137.31
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The article discusses the various projects that are underway at the
Studios (allready published elsewhere) as well as his kids interest in
Jim henson productions, Son Brian performed the pivitol role of the
Storryteller's dog, as well as principal puppet performer and
second-unit director on Tennage Mutant Nija Turtles.
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Since JH's son Brian was instrumental in Henson Productions involvement
with the Movie, I suppose they are using that as an excuse to get
TMNT's into the fold. If that the case I think it's wears kind of
thin, since Jim Henson Productions din't creat TMNT's nor do they own
the rights to TMNT's some other guy does.
TNMT's don't belong in the World, this is definitely crossing the line
as you were, they may be cute to look at but they do not emit the same
kind of feelings I get when watching either a WD animated character or
a JM muppet.
Claude
PS. If Eisner and co. keep this up, maybe i'll just have to rethink my
'92 trip (I can't believe I just said that), maybe it's time to hang up
my reins as one of the mod's, half the news lately from/about Disney
just isn't fun reading anymore (I can't believe I just said that
either) ;^(
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| I think its a great move on the part of Disney. Mickey *used* to be
my son's favorite charactor. Until TNMT. Now the loveable turtles
are.
Yes, Mickey's still ok, but the TNMT is the future.
I see no more violence in the turtles than in any Disney cartoon.
There is a generation 'gap', so to speak of, the same way that some
of us olders look at the crazy music that the kids are listening to
nowdays.
If Disney can't move with the times, it'll die.
ed
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| Rep to <<< Note 208.2 by OVRDRV::BADGER "One Happy camper ;-)" >>>
> If Disney can't move with the times, it'll die.
Ed,
Yes but, Disney is moving with the times, They bought out the Muppets,
which in a way I like and is somewhat different to TMNT's, since Disney
started out in animation and that is the realm of their characters,
while Henson was in puppets (which Disney isn't), so it's pretty much a
good match.
Disney continues to add to their own library of animated characters,
with animated features like, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Oliver and Co.,
the Little Mermaid, the upcoming Rescuers II etc. Yes the animation
has kicked in since Eisner took over, but if you read the book Storming
the Magic Kingdom, you'll really see that it's because of Roy Disney
Jr. (son of Walt's brother Roy). He was upset that the animation
department was going downhill along with films, and felt Disney should
reassert itself there since that is where Disney got it start.
(remeber Walt said if it wasn't for a Mouse.. or something to that
effect at the opening of Disneyland) This all lead to the upset in
Management back in '84/'85 when Roy left the board of Directors while
he contemplated his options of either getting out alltogether of his
investment of Disney (therby making Disney look bad) or going all the
way by doing a hostile take over, and forcing the other side of the
Disney family to listen to him, which is basicly what happened with the
Help of the Bass brothers.
As long as Disney continues to add their own characters, there REALLY
IS NO REASON to import animated characters from others studios. After
all if the other studios want exposure like the Disney Characters have
at the MK, let them BUILD THEIR OWN PARKS. Look at Wonderland outside
of Toronto with the Hanna Baberra characters (now where is that other
park with them also?).
Disney/MGM in a way was also different, since in order to build a
studio tour, they needed to look beyond the Disney library, since they
allready built theme rides on their characters and favorite hits at MK.
What Disney movie would provide stunts better that Indiana Jones, or
help add to the Great Movie ride etc. Without the help of another
studio as a partner for the Studio Park to provide the basis of the
rides/attractions, things would of been overkill between the studio and
MK parks.
BTW You recent MGM visitor, are Tom and Jerry at MGM?, afterall
they were the product of the MGM animation department.
I know Eisner brought in George Lucas for Star Tours, but that was
because Disney Imagineeing was starting to get stagnant in ways since
they only knew how to improve on the technology they did, and not
really bring in new type of technology, now they have Body Wars, what's
next?
Claude
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| Len,
I think I can handle Kermit, Leonardo, and Co. as long as they steer
clear of TMK. I think all of us want to keep those characters we grew
up with in their own theme park and let the others stay in MGM.
Mike_whose_5125_day_wait_since_his_last_visit_is_but_a_measly_100_hours_away
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| I understand Claude's and Len's feelings about TMNT. I too had some
strong feelings about their appearance in a Disney theme park.
However, after seeing them at MGM I feel comfortable with how they are
used. They come out and do their maneuvers with April singing and then
they take pictures, sign autographs, and greet the kids.
They do not appear out of the blue like other characters do around the
park. They only appear on the backlot in MGM and at specified times.
I prefer them (and the muppets) being limited as they are now. Once MGM
begins to grow and establish specific attractions for these characters
there may be a time when we will see them roam around like Chip, Dale,
Mickey, Pluto, Goofy, and Roger Rabbit.
Mike who wants to be an Imagineer
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