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Title:The Disneyphile's Disney File
Notice:This Conference can show you The World
Moderator:DONVAN::SCOPA.zko.dec.com::manana::eppes
Created:Thu Feb 23 1989
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:536
Total number of notes:19961

140.0. "Babysitting/childcare in WDW" by PAPPAS::JIM (Jim Pappas) Sun Sep 17 1989 16:40

    This topic has been discussed elsewhere in this conferece, but it is
    hidden away quite well.  I think it deserves its own note.
    
    This note is to discuss available childcare, rates, personal
    experiences etc.
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140.1PAPPAS::JIMJim PappasSun Sep 17 1989 17:2945
    I called the childcare number at WDW today (407)5444. This is a
    childcare  contractor and I think it was Kindercare.  They have both
    in-room and drop-off care available.  For in-room care, I was quoted:

	1 child		$6.00
	2 children	$7.00
	3 children 	$8.00

    There is a 3 1/2 hour minimum and they need 8-24 hours notice.  I asked
    if the same person could be used for several nights, and was told that
    they prefer it and recommended that I give 5-7 days notice to allow
    them time to set up a sitter.

    They also have a drop-off center in Disney shopping village where they
    charge $4.00/child.  The center is open 6am - 9pm.

    I will going to WDW in November/December, and since the park closes
    early, and my children are young, I am interested in wearing the kids
    out during the day and putting them to bed early to rest up for the
    next.  That will give my wife and I (and occasionally  my oldest
    daughter) time to catch some nice dinners and shows together.

    When I was at Disneyland in California, the park was open from 8am - 1am
    and we would catch the first monorail in the morning, go till about
    noon, ride back to the hotel for a swim, nap till dinnertime, and go
    back into the park till closing or when we got too tired.  That worked
    out well, so we didn't use babysitting too much.  Two nights (out of
    7) we did use babysitting, once was in-room and the other was at the
    Mickey Mouse club.  We were very satisfied with both, except the Mickey
    club gets expensive since they do not give a multi-child discount.
    
    I understand that the resort hotels in WDW have Mickey clubs as well. 
    I do not have any current information, but I remember reading that the
    Contemporary and Grand Floridian have child care centers at $4.00/hour
    for the first child, and $0.50 for each additional with a 4 hour
    maximum.  The Polynesian has a "Neverland" club at $6.00/hour per child
    with a 3 hour minimum. I do not think the "Neverland club has a
    multi-child discount so with 3 children, that would $18/hour and is
    more than I would like to spend.
    
    If you have any other information, or personal experience, I would be
    happy to hear from you.
    
    /Jim Pappas

140.2INDMKT::GOLDBERGLen --> �o� & ��� in 59 daysMon Sep 18 1989 14:4534
    Much of this information is covered in note 22, specifically 22.23.  But
    it is worthwhile to have a separate note for it anyway.

� They also have a drop-off center in Disney shopping village where they
� charge $4.00/child.  The center is open 6 am - 9 pm.

    Is that $4.00 /hour/child?  How about multiple children?  What do they
    provide?  Is lunch included?

� I understand that the resort hotels in WDW have Mickey clubs as well. 
� I do not have any current information, but I remember reading that the
� Contemporary and Grand Floridian have child care centers at $4.00/hour
� for the first child, and $0.50 for each additional with a 4 hour
� maximum.  

    These are the prices I was quoted by the MKC Travel Center several
    months ago.  I believe they are still current.  I seem to remember
    seeing somewhere that there was a "Mouse House" at Pleasure Island.  I
    can't find the reference anywhere now.  Can anyone confirm?

� The Polynesian has a "Neverland" club at $6.00/hour per child
� with a 3 hour minimum. I do not think the "Neverland club has a
� multi-child discount so with 3 children, that would $18/hour and is
� more than I would like to spend.

    Neverland includes dinner, so it may be worth it.  I suppose it depends
    on how long you leave your kids.  Neverland has a Peter Pan theme, and
    from what I hear you enter the place by climbing through the Darling's
    nursery window.

    Since our trip is less than two months away, this topic is of
    particular interest. I too would love to hear from anyone who has used
    the various WDW child care facilities, as to cost, quality, and
    convenience. 
140.3ORACLE::JIMJim PappasMon Sep 18 1989 17:3833
re: .2 INDMKT::GOLDBERG "Len --> �o� & ��� in 59 days"

>    Is that $4.00 /hour/child?  How about multiple children?  What do they
>    provide?  Is lunch included?

This is per child,  I do not know if they provide any food.


>    These are the prices I was quoted by the MKC Travel Center several
>    months ago.  I believe they are still current.  I seem to remember
>    seeing somewhere that there was a "Mouse House" at Pleasure Island.  I
>    can't find the reference anywhere now.  Can anyone confirm?

It would be nice to have the "Mouse House" at Pleasure Island.

>    Neverland includes dinner, so it may be worth it.  I suppose it depends
>    on how long you leave your kids.  Neverland has a Peter Pan theme, and
>    from what I hear you enter the place by climbing through the Darling's
>    nursery window.

My kids are farily young, (3,5,7) and it would not be economical to keep them 
in the Neverland club.  They would prefer to eat PB&J or a hot dog on most 
occasions.  I'm not sure that I could enjoy myself if I knew I was paying 
$18/hr for babysitting.

I think that we might try one of the Mouse House clubs at $5.00/hr ($4.00 + 
2@ $0.50)  but will usually use the in room babysitting @ $8.00/hr for the 3
children.  I think it will be important for them to get their sleep.

On some nights we will be going out as a family.  We are planning the Hoop De
Do Review one night and also plan to bring the whole clan to Japan.  I think 
the kids will enjoy the Teppan cooking.  On those days, we will probably let 
them nap in the afternoon to prevent them from loosing it later in the evening.
140.4POCUS::VONROSENDAHLFri Oct 20 1989 13:423
    Just wanted to add this. For children in diapers there is only one
    option, in-room care.
    
140.5Options for Day Time?INDMKT::GOLDBERGLen --> �o� & ��� in 22 daysWed Oct 25 1989 16:4717
>   They also have a drop-off center in Disney shopping village where they
>   charge $4.00/child.  The center is open 6am - 9pm.

    I spoke to Kindercare last week.  The drop-off center can be used by
    Guests on an as-available basis.  At the time I spoke to them, they
    had no space available.

    My understanding is that it is a day care center used by Disney
    employees, (and others I suppose), on an regular basis.  If they have
    any openings on a given day, they will accept children of Guests.

    It would be nice to have a place where the kids and grown-ups could get
    away from each other for at least part of a day.  I for one would like
    to take my time on the studio tour, and I think the kids will be bored.

    I guess there's always in-room baby sitting.  Can anyone suggest
    another option?
140.6TECRUS::JIMJim PappasSun Dec 10 1989 22:2417
    We used the in-room babysitting 5 nights and the mouse house in the
    contemporary 1 night.
    
    The rates are as I posted in an earlier reply except that for in-room
    sitting, you pay an extra 1/2 hour for travel.  Thus, if you request a
    babysitter at 7:00, you are charged starting at 6:30.  You only pay for
    travel before, not after the babysitting.
    
    We called in advance of our trip and requested that we get the same
    sitter for the entire week.  It worked out very well.  She was always
    on time, and didn't care how many hours we needed her.  She was a
    disney employee during the day and sitted at night for extra income.
    
    For both in-room and mouse house sitting, you could charge the bill to
    your room.
    
    /Jim Pappas
140.7TECRUS::JIMJim PappasMon Apr 16 1990 15:1111
I called Kinder-Care again today to discuss in-room babysitting. The rates
have gone up quite a bit.  The current rates are:

	$  7.50/hr	1 child
	$  8.50/hr	2 children
	$ 10.00/hr	3 children

Although I did not confirm, I assume the policy is still a 3 1/2 hr minimum 
including the 1/2 hour travel.

/Jim Pappas
140.8TECRUS::JIMJim PappasSun Jul 15 1990 18:1645
        We made our second WDW trip this June (6/14 through 7/5).  For
        the first week, we rented a condo in Kissimmee and my
        mother-in-law stayed with us.  She was happy to babysit for us
        on the nights we were not in the parks late.

        For the next two weeks, we were staying at the Caribbean Beach
        Resort and used WDW babysitting a little. Four nights we
        brought the kids to the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse in the Grand
        Floridian.  This is fairly inexpensive at $5.00 hour for three
        children ($4.00 for the first child, $0.50 each additional). 
        This is pretty close to what we pay at home.  The kids liked
        it there.  They had a big screen TV, lots of Disney movies, an
        Apple PC, books, stuffed animals etc.  There is a 4 hour
        maximum at the clubhouse.  However, I was told that it is OK
        to leave the kids longer.  After being told this, we kept the
        kids there for 5 hours once when Deb and I went to dinner
        followed by a night at Pleasure Island one last time.

        The only problem with the Grand Floridian is that self park
        lots are far away from the entrance.  It seems the GF is
        optimized for valet parking.  We always left the car right
        under the overhang at the entrance.  When the valet parking
        attendants approached us we would just tell them we were
        dropping off (or picking up) the kids and they didn't seem to
        mind us keeping the car there for the 10 minutes or so.

        On the night we were going to the Hoop-de-do Review, we gave
        our youngest (Gregory age 4) the option of coming with us or
        going to the Neverland Club at the Polynesian.  He chose the
        Neverland club.  After seeing it, our other two kids were
        crying because they were jealous.  The Neverland club is
        $6.00/hr for each child so it is much more expensive if you
        have more than one child ($18/hr vs $5/hr for us).

        We did not use the in-room babysitting this time at all.  This
        is because we would always take a nap in the afternoon and the
        kids could stay up later as a result.  We were planning to use
        it the night we went to the Polynesian Review but we decided
        to all go to show instead.  We had requested the same
        babysitter that we used in December (Pat Williams) since we
        had personal experience with her, but Pat was on vacation. 
        That was part of our decision to bring the kids to the Luau,
        we always feel uncomfortable the first time we use a mew
        sitter.
        
140.9TECRUS::JIMJim PappasSun Jul 15 1990 18:227
        I think it is unforunate that they do not have a Mickey Mouse
        Clubhouse at the Caribbean Beach Resort.  I read that there
        will be a babysitting center at the Yacht and Beach Club
        Resort.  I don't have any details but that will probably be
        the most convenient to the CBR.
        
        /Jim Pappas
140.10TECRUS::JIMJim PappasSun Jun 09 1991 23:10117
        I just called WDW and some independent child care agencies for
        the latest and greatest information.  As of today:


        Mouse House:  (407)824-4321 for information.

           Grand Floridian - $4.00/hr + $0.50/hr for additional
           children.  Ages 3-9 (No diapers).  No meals.  5:00 -
           midnight.  4 hour maximum.

           Contemporary - $4.00/hr + $0.50/hr for additional children. 
           Ages 3-9 (no diapers).  No meals.  4:30 - midnight.  4 hour
           maximum.

           Yacht & Beach Club - $4.00/hr + $2.00/hr for additional
           children.  4 hour maximum unless you buy them a meal.

           Polynesian Neverland Club - $6.00/hr per child.  No
           diapers.  Themed after Peter Pan.  Includes dinner and a
           visit by a Disney character.  5:00 - midnight.  3 hour
           minimum.


        In room babysitters:  

           Kindercare (407)857-7447 -  3 hour minimum plus 1/2 hour
           travel time.  (As Len asked me, "why does travel cost
           increase as you have more kids"?)

              1 child    -  $ 7.50/hr
              2 children -  $ 8.50/hr
              3 children -  $10.00/hr


           Super Sitters (407)740-5516 - 4 hour minimum plus $5.00
           travel fee.

              1 child    -  ???
              2 children -  $8.00/hr
              3 children -  $9.00/hr


           Fairy Godmothers (407)277-3724 - 4 hour minimum plus $5.00
           travel fee.

              1, 2, or 3 children  - $6.00/hour if all children are
              from the same immediate family (she emphasized this).


           Moms (407)857-7447 - 4 hour minimum, no travel fee.

              1 child    -  $6.00/hr
              2 children -  $7.00/hr
              3 children -  $8.00/hr


        Notes about in-room babysitting:  

           -  Kindercare seems to be the "official" in-room baby
           sitting service at WDW.  This is the only one I was ever
           told about when calling WDW information.  However, as you
           can see, they are not the cheapest.

           -  For children in diapers, in-room baby sitting is the
           only option.  (We are long past having this problem
           anymore!)

           -  All of the above will send sitters to the Disney hotels.  
           From experience (1989), I know that Kindercare can be
           charged to the room.   I don't know about all of the
           others.  One of them (I cannot remember which) said cash
           only (no checks or credit cards) payable to the sitter. 
           However, she also said that the front desk of the Disney
           hotels will give the sitter the cash and charge the bill to
           the rooms.

           -  All of the services said that their sitters were
           licensed and bonded etc.  All said that their current
           sitters were all women with ages ranging from 18 to 60's
           and that they would do their best to provide a sitter that
           met the customer's request.

           -  All of them recommend that a reservation be made 8 - 24
           hours in advance, but most said they can get a sitter with
           as little as 2 hours notice most of the time.  In the past,
           I have given a notice of one week.

           -  When I asked about requesting the same sitter for
           multiple nights, they said it was best to give a few days
           notice but that it was possible and that they preferred to
           use the same sitter since the kids get familiar with that
           person.

        I'm not sure if we will be using sitters very much on this
        trip.  My parents are joining us for the first week and they
        won't mind giving Debbie and I a night out a few times. 
        During our second week, we will use a mouse house at least
        once since we will be going out for our 15th anniversary. We
        will probably want to use an in-room sitter once so that we
        could go to Pleasure Island while the kids sleep.

        My kids prefer the mouse house to in-room babysitting because
        they have fun there.  It is cheaper, but they generally do not
        get any sleep.  Also, there is a 4 hour maximum which could be
        too short.  Sometimes we were told that leaving them for more
        than 4 hours was OK, but the official policy is 4 hours max
        except for the Poly.

        Since the Neverland Club does not have a multi-kid discount,
        it is too steep for us ($18/hour!). If you only have 1 child,
        or if you have deep pockets, then this place is the best. 
        Last year we gave my youngest son the choice of the Neverland
        Club or the Hoop-de-do review and he chose the Neverland Club. 
        After seeing the Neverland Club, his older sisters (6 & 8 at
        the time) were jealous and cried all the way to the Hoop-de-do
        review.  They got over it once we were there.
    
140.11 FWIW EXIT26::SNODGRASSYoikes and Away!!Mon Jun 10 1991 15:1515
    
    
    Jim,
    
    I know with only one child we could more easily justify the Neverclub
    at the Poly, but I think the array of things for kids to do, meal,
    make-your own sunday, live animal show and a free pass for Discovery
    Island it weren't all that bad. Our feeling was it was our big night
    out so why not let him have one big night out too. After all you never
    can tell when you'll be back.
    
    just my 2 cents
    
    steve
    
140.12Another vote for NeverlandCSC32::J_HANLONJOEYTue Jun 11 1991 11:1312
We also left our son for an evening at "Neverland".  If you ask him what his
favorite things were about vacation, he always starts with "Neverland".  His
favorite character (Goofy) dropped by for part of the evening and Brent got his
picture taken with him.  He got to hold a snake and touch a baby alligator,
and he also learned something during the animal show.  They also have a room
of video games there that they can play without quarters.  All the cast
members there were older grandmotherly types the night our son was there.
He felt comfortable immediately (he was 4 at the time) and loved the attention
he got.  All the kids got a lot of attention.  We watched for awhile to make
sure he was going to be ok.  It is pricey, but it was worth it to us.  He
asks if he will get to go back there sometime, and he's never been excited
about babysitters...
140.13TECRUS::JIMJim PappasTue Jun 11 1991 20:4428
        RE: -1

>We also left our son for an evening at "Neverland".  If you ask him what his
>favorite things were about vacation, he always starts with "Neverland".  His
>favorite character (Goofy) dropped by for part of the evening and Brent got his
>picture taken with him.  He got to hold a snake and touch a baby alligator,
>and he also learned something during the animal show.  They also have a room
>of video games there that they can play without quarters.  All the cast
>members there were older grandmotherly types the night our son was there.
>He felt comfortable immediately (he was 4 at the time) and loved the attention
>he got.  All the kids got a lot of attention.  We watched for awhile to make
>sure he was going to be ok.  

        My son feels similar to yours.  This is the best of the
        babysitting places that I have seen.

>It is pricey, but it was worth it to us.  He
>asks if he will get to go back there sometime, and he's never been excited
>about babysitters...

        The price is not too bad if you you only have one child, but
        with 3 kids, it is out of our league unless we are only
        dropping off one child.  When we use babysitters, we usually
        go out for 4 - 5 hours.  The Grand Floridian Mouseketeer house
        runs us about $20 - $25.  If we were to use the Neverland
        Club, it would cost us $72 - $90.  I wish the Neverland Club
        had a multi-child discount like the others.
    
140.14FDCV06::KINGAnd just when you thought it was safe.........Wed Jun 12 1991 09:464
    If you are not staying at WDW, can you use the baby-sitting services
    listed in here?
    
    REK
140.15PAPPAS::JIMJim PappasWed Jun 12 1991 14:3210
        RE: -1

        I know that you can use the in-room babysitting since they are
        all independent.  I don't know if you can use the Mousketeer
        houses at the GF, Poly, Contemporary or Y&BC.  I recommend
        calling the WDW information number (407)824-4321 for more
        info.  If you call, let us know.

        /Jim Pappas
    
140.16Please forgive my insensativity!!!CSC32::J_HANLONJOEYWed Jun 12 1991 22:0417
        RE: .13

>        The price is not too bad if you you only have one child, but
>        with 3 kids, it is out of our league unless we are only
>        dropping off one child.  When we use babysitters, we usually
>        go out for 4 - 5 hours.  The Grand Floridian Mouseketeer house
>        runs us about $20 - $25.  If we were to use the Neverland
>        Club, it would cost us $72 - $90.  I wish the Neverland Club
>        had a multi-child discount like the others.

	 And I thought it was overly expensive for one child!!!  Ouch!!!
	 Please forgive me if my previous reply sounded insensative...I
	 was just trying to say that it is a good place, if someone was
	 considering putting their child there...  I naively assumed
	 they had a multi-child discount...  What a fool I am!!! :-)
    

140.17Changes in babysitting centers at WDW resortsTECRUS::JIMJim PappasSun Sep 08 1991 19:2242
        During this trip, we used quite a few of the babysitting
        services at WDW.  We used the Contemporary once, the Grand
        Floridian once, and the Y&BC twice.  We also had an in-room
        sitter through Fairy Godmothers 3 nights and my folks (who had
        a connecting room) watched them twice after we returned from
        the parks and put them to bed.

        This time we often put the kids into the sitters for just an
        hour or so while we had dinner.  Then we would pick them up
        and go into the parks.

        Between the time I called for babysitting information, and I
        arrived, there were several changes in the "Mouse House" type
        centers in the WDW resort hotels (Contemporary, GF, and Y&BC).

        First, the Contemporary has removed their multi-child
        discount.  It used to cost $4.00/hr for the first child, and
        $0.50/hr for additional kids.  It now cost $4.00/hr for each
        child.  Since I had been quoted the old rate, they honored it. 
        It certainly is not worth the $12/hour I would have to pay and
        let them know that I would not use that center any more.

        The Grand Floridian still has the old price rate of $4.00/hr
        for the first child, $0.50/hr for additional children. 
        However, their new policy states that they no longer accept
        reservations unless you are staying at the GF.  They do accept
        walk-ins on a space available basis.  If you call, they will
        probably not ask if you are staying at the GF and you can
        probably still get a reservation.  That is what we did.  The
        kids stayed here for about 1� hours while the adults ate
        dinner at Narcoossees.  It only cost $6.25 for the sitter while
        we ate dinner, and we enjoyed ourselves a lot more than if the
        kids were with us.   We bought some hamburgers next door for
        them to eat while in the Mouse House.

        The Sand Castle Club at the Y&BC (it is on the Beach Club
        side) is much nicer than either of the above (but not as nice
        as the Neverland Club).  It is much larger and has a lot more
        to do.  The rate is $4.00/hr for the first child and $2.00/hr
        for additional children.  Unlike the GF and Contemporary, the
        Sand Castle Club no longer has a 4 hour maximum (this changed
        during our trip).  This was the kid's favorite place to stay.
140.18Fairy Godmothers in-room sittersTECRUS::JIMJim PappasSun Sep 08 1991 19:4921
        During this trip, we used an in-room sitter 3 nights.  Because
        of the difference in rates, we tried using Fairy Godmothers
        this time and we were very pleased.  

        Kindercare is now $7.50/$8.50/$10.00 for 1/2/3 children
        respectively.  By contrast, Fairy Godmothers charges $6.00/hr
        for up to 3 children in the same family.  Since we have 3
        children, it is a big difference in cost.  Kindercare charges
        1/2 hour of travel ($5.00 for us) and Fairy Godmothers charges
        a flat $5.00 for travel.

        We requested the same babysitter for all 3 nights and we also
        wanted someone who had been with the agency for at least 10
        years.  They said that would not be a problem.  We had
        Marguerite and we thought she was great.  In the future we
        will ask for her again.  She was real good with the kids and
        brought toys for them to play with.

        The only negative about using Fairy Godmothers was that you
        must pay cash, and cannot charge the sitting to your room.  It
        is not a big deal, but a little bit of an inconvenience.
140.19Anyone have a in-room sitter recently?WNRWHO::WOODSTue Sep 10 1996 13:006
    Has anyone used the in-room babysitting lately?  We are thinking about
    getting a babysitter one night for our 2 kids (2 1/2 and 6 months) and
    I am interested in any recent experiences.
    
    Thanks,
    Karen
140.20Fairy Godmother ServiceCSLALL::PERLAThu Sep 12 1996 09:0515
    Karen,
    
    	I was down there last month & used the Fairy Godmother Service
    twice.  My boys are a bit older, 7 & 8 and they loved her.  The woman
    who owns the service was the one who came.  Her name is Gertrude &
    she's really sweet.  She seems very caring & grandmother like.  The
    cost is $8 hr for the 2 kids & a $5 travel fee.  I thought she was very
    nice.  She brings age appropriate toys for the kids to play with &
    keeps them entertained very well.  She will also stay for as long as
    you need(meaning there's no curfue).  The number is 407-277-3724.  I
    would suggest you call now & make reservations.
    
    Have fun!
    
    Lisa