Conference koolit::disney

    Walt Disney World
    
    There  are currently two guide books out on Walt Disney World.    Steve
    Birnbaum's Official Guide  to  Walt  Disney  World  put out by Houghton
    Mifflin Co.  and is available through the Magic Kingdom Club, (of which
    I highly recommend) is an  excelent book for the first time visitor who
    is planning on staying on site.    The  book has details on the various
    resorts and what one can do as well as the parks and is laid out rather
    well and is easy to read.  The other book is titled Unofficial Guide to
    Walt Disney World and Epcot by Sehlinger and Finley  and  is put out by
    Prentice-Hall.   This is also and good book to have  but  deals  mostly
    about  the parks and very little info on the rest of  WDW,  and  so  is
    better  for  those  staying off site.  It has rating of the  atractions
    etc.  Both books help you plan your stay and give tips on  what  to see
    as well as to how to see them.  Of course both books are  good  for the
    repeat visitor as well.
    
    Disneyland
    
    Currently  I've only seen Steve BirnBaum's book on Disneyland.  I don't
    own one  but based on the WDW book, I would recommend this to those who
    are going to Disneyland for the first time.
    
    Tokyo Disneyland
    
    I haven't seen any quide on this.
    
    Claude

    re: 17.1
    
    I have the current versions of both of these books.  
    
    The Unofficial Guide had an interesting section on the reasoning
    behind the traffic patterns.  (Both books have the same list of
    busy days although they are in a slightly different order.)
    
    One thing in the Unofficial Guide that I haven't been able to 
    confirm is the pricing for the studio.  It states that the Magic
    Kingdom/EPCOT Center ticket will also be good at the studio.
    The Disney folks (at least the ones we can get to thru their
    various phone numbers) do NOT know if the ticket will be combined
    with the Magic Kingdom/EPCOT Center or if it will be separate.
    
    If anyone hears for sure, please post a note here.  I'll be calling
    them again around the middle of April.  Hopefully, they'll have
    updated prices by then.
    

    I seem to remeber reading about this in one of the issues of the Disney
    News as well.    Typhoon  Lagoon  and  Pleasure Island will be seperate
    thought.
    
    Claude

    Well since I was out today, I stoped off a book store to see if I could
    pick up the lates Star  Trek  The  Next  Generation paperback, but they
    hadn't arrived yet, so while I broused around the new release section I
    happened upon the following book on Disney  Trivia tittle 'The Official
    Disney  trivia  Book'  by  Bill  Ginch  and Fred  Miranda  put  out  by
    PaperJacks  books    (published   December  '88)  for  $3.95,  done  in
    cooperation with Disney  (note the word official in the title).  Trivia
    topics cove the following
    
        Disney's Animated Classics - up to the Great Mouse Detective
        Disney on Television
        Disney's Live-action Feature Films
        Disney's Theme Parks
        
    Claude

    
    For those of you that may have missed previous "Disney News" issues
    (from note 2), the Spring Edition 89 issue just came out.
    
    It shows Gene Kelly in the foreground with Disney-MGM in the
    background.
    
    GREAT (big) article on Disney-MGM, full of pictures, and
    very detailed descriptions (latest) of the various attractions, themes,
    shops, restuarants, etc. 
    
    Also an article on Disneyland Secrets (with pictures). Just to wet
    your appetite.
    
    	"Did you know that the C-3PO and R2-D2 Audio-Animatronics figures
    	 in the Star Tours lobby area are original units from the
    	 'Star Wars' films ?"
    
    	"The organ once played by Capt Nemo, is now in possession of
    	 the Haunted Mansion (with sculls floating out of it)
    
	"By the way, its no rumor that there was a half-court basketball
    	 court, up inside the mighty Mattehorn. Mountain climbers need
    	 breaks too !"
    
    Etc, etc, and more etc.
    
    Mark
    
    
    
    

    For the out of States readers, does anyone have a subscription address
    rates for England?
    
    Cheers Richard

    I received my Magic Kingdom Club material in May and sent for the
    Disney News Magazine on June 1.  As of today they have not processed
    my order (my check has never been cashed).  
    
    Has anyone else had a long wait between ordering the Disney News
    and receiving the first issue?
    
    Thank you.

    Re: .7
    
      I also joined back in May and have yet to recieve anything. I
     haven't paid any money yet so I'm not to worried. Hopefully I'll
     get it sooner or later.....
    
     George

    Since the Disney News is published quarterly, and you probably missed
    the deadline for the Summer issue which came out in June, it can seem
    like a long time until your subscription starts.  The fall issue is due
    out in September.  If you don't see anything next month, I would send
    them a letter.

    Disney News
    P.O. Box 3310
    Anaheim, CA  92803

    I just read that the fall issue of Disney News has come out.  I
    still have not received a copy nor has the company cashed my check.
    
    Has anyone else who subscribed in the summer received their first
    copy yet?
    
    Thanks.

    Re: .10 -
    
       Back in April, I got a new MKC card from activities. On the card
      was a small form to send in and subscribe to Disney News. Well
      I sent it in, and just two weeks ago recieved confirmation that
      I would be recieving the Fall Issue shortly. Good things take
      time I guess. 8^)
    
     George

    Well the  Winter  edition  of  the  Disney  news  arrived  in  my  mail
    yesterday, with a  lot  of  interesting  tidbit's  of  info around what
    happenning/opening in '90
    
        35th Anniversary of Disneyland
        MOUSEorail
        New hotels at WDW (Swan/Dolphin/Beach/Yatch Club)
        Pictures of Typhoon Lagoon
        Carol's Burnett new Touchstone TV show on NBC this spring
        Article on the Disney Legends (Hall of Fame)
        etc.
    
    So you subscribers should be on the lookout.
    
    Claude
        

    
    For those of you in the UK who want to subcribe to the Disney News
    magazine, here's a number you can call:
    
    (0101) 303 447 9330
    
    I called them recently and quoted the number of my 'flexible-fiend'
    (I used Visa ... Barclaycard in Brit-speak). The lady was very 
    helpful, and once we'd gotten over the confusion of how to spell
    Pamber Heath (my home village), I was enrolled.
    
    Not sure when to expect the first issue, but I'll be looking at
    my Barclaycard bills to see when they take the 30 dollar's worth
    out.
    
    Please could anyone let me know when the next issue is due out?
    
    Good luck,
    
    Andy.
         

    Andy,
    
        I phoned the Anaheim address in my 1988 brochure. I was given
    another number to call direct.This person told me of a toll free
    number in Boulder Colorado, where the mag.is actually distributed
    from....ahh. I eventually mailed Anaheim with my visa number &
    address, about a month ago.Nothing has arrived as yet.
    
    How come you seem to always get the easy path!
    
    Cheers for the number.
    
    Richard.

    Andy, Richard,

    The Disney News is published quarterly.  The last issue was the Winter
    1990 edition, and came out in the US at the end of December.  The next
    issue should be out around the end of March.  If you add a couple of
    weeks mailing delay to reach the UK, you probably won't see anything
    until early April.

    Think of it as the equivalent of waiting in line at Disney World.

    Sorry.

I received the spring edition of Disney News yesterday.  Haven't had much
time to read it but I did notice an order form for Disneyland's 35th
birthday souvenirs.  Looks like Disney will be getting more of my money.

mis (soon to be mig)

    
    Re: .13
    
    Not bad, subscribed 17th February, got my spring edition last
    Friday 16th March.
    
    Looks like I don't suffer too long a delay, even though I'm a UK
    subscriber.
    
    Andy.

    Hi,
    
    I would like to get hold of a copy of the "Unofficial Guide to WDW".
    
    I've read all the notes I can find, but as it's not readily available
    here in the UK I need one more thing, which is the magical ISBN
    number. If someone who has the book (preferably a recent copy),
    would have a look on the back and let me know the number, this will 
    enable the friendly gent at my local bookstore to order it for me.
                                         
    
    Thanks in advance for your assistance,
    
    Andy.

    My copy os the fourth edition, copyright 1990, and includes MGM.
    The ISBN number is 0-13-946443-3. The address shown for the publisher
    is
                        Prentice Hall Trade Division
                        a division of Simon and Schuster, Inc. 
                        Gulf + Western Building
                        One Gulf + Western Plaza
                        New York, New York   10023
    
    Linda

    
    
    	Is that THE latest edition?  I know a new one just came out with
    more expanded information about typhoon lagoon, PI compared to
    Church Street Station, etc.  Unfortunately I bought the one just before
    that only makes minimal reference to these.......
    
    	No worry, I gleaned all I missed in mine by browsing at the
    bookstore!
    
    --BERT

    That's funny. I bought mine in late 1989. It's a 1990 edition and it
    too has MGM but the ISBN (International Standard Book Number for those
    who are wondering) is 0-380-71004-8.
    
    Also, the publisher for mine is Avon Books & Professional Magazines,
    Inc.
    
    Mike

    I just bought mine about 2 months ago. It was the first time I had seen
    this edition; in fact, I had just bought the one that is now out of
    date. There is a big section in it about Typhoon Lagoon, and a section
    about Pleasure Island and Church Street Station, so I do think it is
    the latest. Sometimes they do publish under two different ISBN numbers. 
    The trade edition, which I have, is a sturdier cover than most
    paperbacks and more expensive. Mine was $7.95. Was yours more or less?
    
    Linda

    I just notices that mine says NEW AND REVISED FOURTH EDITION across the
    top in big white on green print. 

    
    Re: Last few replies,
    
    Thanks to you for such a quick response, I've been to see the friendly
    book-orderer at my local WH Smiths (a large chain of bookstores),
    and my order is in .... the Whitaker bank-balance will be lighter
    to the tune of nearly 6 quid, but it sounds like it'll be money
    well-spent.
    
    Andy.

    If you want I will get you a copy as I am working in Washington
    DC at the moment and will be returning to the UK in 2 weeks time.
    I know for sure that the local bookshop here has copies as i've
    just got one at $7.95.
    If you want me to get you a copy i'll bring it back with me and
    we can settlle up on my return. If this is OK send me  a mail 
    Chris Larkman @REO I am still able to read my account.
    
    Cheers Chris

    For those readers in the UK, I just received my latest Disney News
    from Feltham! (near London airport) with an English stamp on it.
    Disney must've realized there is now alot of European interest in
    all things Disney & are now bulk shipping publications.
    
    Perhaps we'll even get a Disney Store & Channel some time soon.
    
    Richard UK buff.

From: [email protected] (DAVE McNARY, UPI Business Writer)
Subject: Disney starting kids magazine
Keywords: magazines, media, corporate r&d, corporate finance,
Date: 7 Oct 90 05:02:00 GMT

UPI Regional Business Newsfeature
	
	LOS ANGELES (UPI) -- The Walt Disney Co., which has made a major
commitment to new businesses in recent years, is starting up another
with a magazine for children between 7 and 14.
	The digest-sized monthly publication, Disney Adventures, is to hit
newstands on Oct. 9 at a price of $1.95. Disney is hoping for initial
sales of 350,000.
	``We've found that by the age of 10, nearly all children are buying
things on their own at least twice a week,'' said publisher Randy Achee,
a 17-year veteran of the magazine industry. ``We see supermarkets,
convenience stores and newstands as premier locations.''
	Disney Adventures is partly modeled after an Italian version of the
Disney magazine, Topolino, which sells 700,000 copies a week and is the
third best-seller among that nation's periodicals.
	The magazine, which has been heavily promoted through Kellogg's
cereals and on Disney's two-hour slate of afternoon cartoon shows,
follows in the footsteps of a wide variety of new initiatives by the
company in recent years.
	They include the founding of a new film division to produce
mainstream movies (Touchstone), starting its own cable channel (the
Disney Channel), opening a movie theme park in Florida (MGM Studios) and
starting a chain of retail stores (Disney Stores).
	In the past year, Disney has also started its own record label
(Hollywood Records) and opened its first fast-food outlet (Mickey's
Kitchen). Disney executives and retail analysts have stressed that the
diversification effort makes sense because it supports a strong cross-
marketing effort.
	Retail consultant Frederick Marx of Bloomfield Hills, Mich., believes
Disney Adventures will succeed, just based on the success of the
company's previous new ventures.
	``Everything Disney has developed in past decade has been a home run,
'' Marx said. ``Without a doubt, they have the best sensitivity and
research of the marketplace.''
	The Disney Stores, with their costumed employees and movie sets with
Mickey Mouse in each of the 70 stores, are a good example of finding a
niche and exploiting it, Marx said.
	``The stores are brilliant because there's nothing really like them,''
Marx said. ``What Disney has done is find these huge pockets that are
unfilled.''
	Indeed, Achee said, the size of the magazine alone sets it apart. 
``Kids have told us that they want something smaller than a regular
magazine that they can easily carry with them,'' he said.
	The magazine is also printed on heavy stock so children can write in
it. As for its content, the idea is to offer something for everyone.
	``Our core group is the kids from 8 to 12, but we are hoping that
with the wide mix we have, the older and younger kids will find
something that will pull them in and get them reading the rest of it,''
Achee said.
	About a third of the magazine will consist of comics, and the rest
will contain short features on sports, fashion, games, science and real
life heroes. The first issue includes articles about film star Rick
Moranis, baseball caps, sports scoreboards, how kids get parts in
movies, a trek through Siberia and the story of Halloween.
	``We want the magazine to feel a bit like a Disney ride,'' Achee
said. ``It's fun and colorful, but you learn something too. Literacy is
a big issue for us.''
	Achee is supervising a 45-person staff at Disney headquarters in
Burbank, Calif. The long-term plans call for going to twice a month
publication in April.
	The magazine is also aimed at parents, who have memories of growing
up at a time when comics were not as violent as they are today, Achee
noted. ``We're hopeful that parents will want to read it to their kids,''
he said.
	Marx said that Disney has been able to succeed because it manages to
walk a fine line between commercialism and social responsibility.
	``There's clearly a void in the area of kids' magazines,'' Marx said.
``Parents have probably been Nintendoed to death and kids will like it
because it's high quality without being too goody-goody.''
	``What it comes down to is that Disney has never gone the carney
route,'' Marx said. ``Consumers recognize that and are willing to pay
for it.''
                    adv sun oct 7 or thereafter

    We have a preview issue of Disney Adventures. They
    were handing them out when we went to see the Disney Afternoon
    Caravan at a mall about six weeks ago. 

    The magazine is kind of cute, but a little too old for my kids,
    ages 5, 5, and 2.  I think anyone in the target age group would
    enjoy it.  Especially if they like the Disney Afternoon.  It is
    about 2/3 comics from the four Disney Afternoon shows, and the
    rest is very short articles on various "kid-type" topics.

    The book itself is the size of Readers' Digest, and I would guess
    about 80 full color pages.  If I remember, the subscription price
    was about $11.95/year.  If anyone is interested, I'll bring in the
    subscription card, and post the address and exact price.

    Len,
    
    	    If it follows the usual pattern, we will probably see it 
    in the UK in about a year's time, so I'd be interested if there 
    was any info on overseas subscriptions. If not, post what you 
    have, and I will ring them.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mike in Warrington, UK. 

    Bull pucky! the size is NOT so it is easy to carry!!
    
    It is to fit inside a textbook at study-hall.  (cynic Phil)

An update to my previous note on the new Disney adventures magazine:

The issue I have is labeled "Special Edition, Fall 1990".  It is 128 pages long.
It measures approx. 5�" x 7�", the perfect size to hide inside a text book!

I brought it in this morning after wresting it away from my two year old, whose
favorite hobby is shredding magazines.  He's dragged this one all over the house
and hasn't seem to damage it much.  (Scribbling on the pages is another story.)

This issue contains the following "features":

2 Duck Tales Comics  [36 pages total]
2 Rescue Rangers Comics [16 pages]
1 Tail Spin Comic [16 pages]
Assorted Articles, Stories, and Games [52 pages]

The rest is ads etc.

Available October 9, (wow! that's today),

"LOOK for it EVERYWHERE
 Supermarkets, Newsstands, Toy Stores, etc. and your living room."

Subscription information:

Special Introductory Offer:

10 issues $9.95
16 issues $15.95

Check or Money order payable to Disney Adventures, Visa or Mastercard

Disney Adventures
1145 N. Ellis St.
Bensenville, IL 60106

Allow 4-6 weeks.

    Can anyone dig up a phone number for the publishers, or their 
    subscription desk. I'd like to get in on the first edition, and 
    find out what their overseas cost is.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mike in the remote Disney outpost of Warrington, UK.

Mike,

The masthead lists the following address and phone number:

Principal offices:

500 South Buena Vista Street
Tower Building
29th Floor
Burbank, CA 91521

(818) 567-5739
Fax (818) 841-7235

Note this address is DIFFERENT than the subscription address in note 17.31.

    I rang the CA number Len gave in the previous reply, and after 
    some stunned silences and comments like "My God! I didn't think 
    our marketing was that effective", I got through to a very helpful 
    lady (Lisa Ramee) who took the problem from me. She promised to 
    look into the query, and get some answers.
    
    I've since had a letter from WD Publications, telling me that they 
    hadn't considered overseas subscriptions until now, however they 
    are doing some pricing, and will get back to me with rates when 
    they have worked them out.
    
    The address given is :--
    
    Disney Adventures,
    PO Box 380,
    Mt. Morris,
    IL 651054-0380
    
    They describe Disney Adventures as Disney's first national 
    consumer magazine. Maybe this word has different interpretations, 
    but to me a consumer magazine is one that is intended to sell 
    products. Is there much marketing in DA, or does the sentence 
    translate differently in American?
    
    Mike in Warrington, UK. 

    Mike, I subscribe to Disneynews and wandered if you had any more
    info on the Disney Adventures yet? Got my letter in the last edition
    of the News!! and a letter from the editor, again I think very
    surprised that their readership is worldwide (well Europe at least)
    
    The only Disney media we get in Britain is a Disney prog on Sunday
    mornings, which the kids insist on recording and re-watching upteen
    times.
    
    Cheers Richard (Basingstoke) 

    Richard,
    
    	    Nothing through from DA yet, but I'll publish it as soon 
    as I get it!
    
    	    Talking about the Disney Club (UK TV version), read the 
    competition note for news of their latest 'Win a Holiday' 
    challenge.
    
    Mike in Warrington.
    
    P.S. Saw Andy W yesterday. His tan has faded due to all the late 
    nights typing in his Trip Report!!

    
    Thank-you Richard for proving to me that the letters in Disney News
    are REAL & congratulations on having your first literary masterpiece
    published.  Yours is the first name I've recognised in there, I
    wonder if anyone else in the conference has been been successful  
    in being similarly 'printed' ?
    
    
    ... and Mike, the reason I am tan-less is due to the fact that I
    am trying to preserve my 'English Rose' complexion ..... (English 
    weed more like!) ... which means I don't sun-bathe.  Anyway, what 
    have the poor un-suspecting natives of Florida done to deserve the 
    sight of me peeling off to reveal acres of white skin? :-)
                                                           
    
    Andy.

    Just received a postcard from Disney Adventures. The subscription 
    rate they quote for the UK is $36.95 for one year. Is it still a 
    monthly publication? There was some talk of it coming out every 
    two weeks.
    
    The subscription address is the Mt. Morris, Illinois one that I 
    gave a few notes back.
    
    I might give it a go while the exchange rate is still good.
    
    Merry Christmas to All!
    
    Mike.

    just picked up a 1991 issue of the  "Unofficial Guide" at Paperback
    Booksmith this afternoon. There isso a new publication, "Walt Disney
    World With Kids" that I also bought. I haven't had a chance to look
    at eithert one yet -- will comment further later.
    
    Linda

    pardon my typing -- I had surgery just before Christmas so will 
    be "one-handing" the keyboard for the next month.
    
    Linda
    

    I would like to know if there are any books for WDW comparable to
    the ones they put out for Disneyland.  
    
    I'm talking about nice coffee table books like "Disneyland, the inside
    story" and the one they put out for the 35th anniversary.
    
    It doesn't look as if I'm going to be able to make it to Florida any
    time in the near future so I'd like to live it through a book.
    
    
    
                                    L.J.

    
    	RE : -. 1
    
    		Actually, you should wait a few months, L.J. Walt Disney
    World celebrates its official 20th anniversary this October. Chances
    are there'll be a slick coffee table book quite similiar to your
    " Disneyland : The Inside Story " available for purchase by the time
    the resort's anniversary rolls around. I heard rumors one was in the
    works last October at a Disneyana convention I attended.
    
    							Robespierre
    

    RE: -.1
    
    Thanks for the info.  I'll keep my eyes open at my local Disney store.
    
    
                                  L.J.

    Rep to <<< Note 17.39 by GEMINI::GIBSON >>>

>    There isso a new publication, "Walt Disney
>    World With Kids" that I also bought. I haven't had a chance to look
>    at eithert one yet -- will comment further later.

    While at the Mall  bookstore  this weekend I broused through this book.
    It's put out by Prima  press  and the authors name is Kim Wright Wiley.
    I didn't buy it since my  boy  is  now 12 and I'd rather wait for "Walt
    Disney World with Teenagers" ;^).
    
    From what I did see, it covered  the  basics  for traveling to WDW with
    kids, what hotels to stay, what ride to  see/stay  away  from, mentions
    the bright lights (taking of the cars picture) at  the  end  of Journey
    Into Imagination ride, to what restaurants to eat at vs  which  ones to
    save for when they are being babysat.
    
    Look's like it would be a good companion book to the Birmbaum guide.
    
    Claude

    The Spring  '91 issue is now out, and has a preview of the Port Orleans
    and Dixie landings  resort.   Port Orleans is scheduled to open fall of
    '91 and the first  phase of Dixie Landings is scheduled for January '92
    and second phase is slated  for  July '92.  Port Orleans is going to be
    1000 rooms and  Dixie  will  be 2000 rooms when finish.  They will have
    their  own  restaurant/marketplace  areas,  and  will be located  on  a
    man-made river called Sassagoula (Indian for Missisippi).
    
    Port Orleans  will be fashion on New Orlean's French Quarter cica 1880,
    and Dixie Landings will be  based  on  plantations  found on the bayou,
    each plantation cluster will have a diferrent  bayou  theme, they'll be
    Alligator Bayou (Cajun) and Magnolia Bend (Antebellum).
    
    See the Price note (96.*) for detail on prices.
    
    Claude

    And now for something a little different...
    
    
    Over the weekend I picked up a used paperback book:
    
        The Walt Disney story of 
                  Our Friend the Atom
    
           by  Heinz Haber, Ph.D.
               Chief Science Consultant
               Walt Disney Productions
    
        Published in 1956 by Dell Publishing.
    
        The book presents a brief history of chemistry, about an 8th or 9th
       grade explanation of nuclear physics, and mixes it in with a fable
       about a fisherman and a genie.  
    
        Here's a bit of the forward, written by Walt himself:
    
          "Fiction often has a strange way of becoming fact.  Not long ago,
          we produced a motion picture based on the immortal tale, 'Twenty
          Thousand Leagues Under the Sea,' featuring the famous submarine 
          Nautilus.  According to that story the craft was powered by a
          magic force."
            .
            .
            .
           "The atom is our future.  It is a subject everyone wants to
          understand, and so we logn had plans to tell the story of the
          atom.  In fact, we considered it so important that we embarked on
          several atomic projects."
           
            "For one, we are planning to build a Hall of Science in the 
          Tomorrowland section of Disneyland where we will--among other
          things--put up an exhibit of atomic energy.  Then, our atomic
          projects at the Walt Disney Studios were two-fold: we produced 
          a motion picture and this book, so that we could tell you this 
          important story in full detail.  Both grew together.  Many
          illustrations appear in both, and we gave them the same title:
          'Our Friend the Atom.'"
            
            "With our atomic projects we found ourselves deep in the field
          of nuclear physics. Of course, we don't pretend to be scientists--
          we are story tellers.  But we combine the tools of our trade with 
          the knowledge of experts.  We even created a new Science
          Department at the Studio to handle projects of this kind."
           .
           .
           .
        
           "... our book tries to make it clear to you that we can indeed
          look upon the atom as our friend."
                                
                                   Walt Disney
    
    
     -- Jeff

    I'm looking for information about a newsletter called "Walt Disney
    World News".  It's the newsletter they leave in the rooms at the
    resorts.  It contains articles/ads about the various happenings
    at the WDW resort, the operating hours and the ticket prices.  It
    seems to be published quarterly but the edition I am looking at
    is the Holiday Issue (listing the events/hours for December 1990).
    
    I am interested in getting a copy of the 1991 Holiday Issue when
    it's published but I think it would be handy to get the publication
    regularly.  Have any of you tried to get copies of these?  Any
    idea as to when the Holiday Issue might be available?

    Does anyone know how to get copies of the "Vacation Guide" and
    "Insider's Guide" published 3 or 4 times a year?
    
    CLaude and I were comparing notes on this today.
    
    He made reservations in Feb. for next April and a few weeks later he
    received a copy of the Winter Guide (blue cover).
    
    I made reservations in June for next July and I received a copy of the
    Summer Guide plus an Insider's Guide (both yellow covers).
    
    We received these about a month after making our reservations however
    CLaude never got a Summer issue. I don't expect to get a Fall issue but
    I'd like to continue to receive them to keep up with the latest info.
    
    The Insider's Guide contains updates on admission prices, dinner show
    prices, and other bits of information. Claude noticed a difference
    between the Winter issue he got and my Summer issue. 
    
    We both are wondering if there is a way to get on some mailing list to 
    receive these two guides. There doesn't seem to be any info regarding a
    subscription either.
    
    Mike
    
    
    
    

    Rep to <<< Note 17.48 by VISUAL::SCOPA "I'd rather be in Orlando" >>>

    Mike,
    
>    He made reservations in Feb. for next April and a few weeks later he
>    received a copy of the Winter Guide (blue cover).

    Opps, memory  is  fading  fast,  actually it's a green cover, the light
    blue cover was the one I recieved back in '89.
    
    Claude

    I have the following Vacation Guides in my desk.  I've never seen an
    "Insider's Guide".  Each was received within a few weeks of making a
    reservation.

    Dark Blue Cover (not dated)... I think this one is from 1990.

    Light Green Cover (not dated)... Got this one Feb./March 1991.

    Yellow Cover (dated Spring 1991)... Arrived June 1991.  This one
                                        includes the Port Orleans, lots of
                                        pictures of the Beach and Yacht
                                        Clubs, and cute little symbols
                                        showing the amenities at each
                                        resort

    Len,
    
    The Insider's Guide contains information similar to the Resort Vacation
    Handbook printed every year.
    
    The Insider Guide contains "exclusive information for Disney Resort
    Guests".
    
    This little guide is pretty snazzy and is in color. It cintains the
    latest map and has the following information:
    
           o Guaranteed Theme Park Access
           o Complimentary Transportation
           o Directions to WDW
           o Your Arrival at WDW
           o Payment and Credit Cards
           o Dining Privileges
           o Recreation
           o Guest Services
           o Expert Tips
           o Dinner Shows and Disney Character DIning
           o Dinner/Breakfast Reservation Form
           o Learning Program Reservation Form
           o Disney Learning Programs
           o Special Television Programming
           o A World of Shopping
           o Telephone Directory
           o Index
    
    The guide contains information many of us normally wouldn't be aware of
    like the Magic Years Club. Membership is for guests 60 years or older
    and it gives you discounts on a number of things ($30).
    
    How about this do you know you can send floral or fruit arrangements
    anywhere on the property between 8 A.M. and 10 P.M.?
    
    Also included with the guide was an "Admission Fact Sheet" This has the
    latest prices.
    
    Mike

    Does anyone have the current subscription rate for Disney News (within
    the US)??  My subsciption has lapsed and I'd like ot start getting it
    again (seeing as you can no longer get it at the Disney Stores).  The
    subscription card in the latest issue I have (Summer 1991) has the
    rates listed as $14.95 for two years.  Is this correct??
    
    I suppose I could just send the card in and they'll bill me later but I
    was wondering if the rates have gone up again. 
    
    - Skip

    Has anyone received the winter issue of DISNEY NEWS?

    I moved last summer.  I sent my change of address in two to 
    three months before the fall issue was published.  I didn't get
    it at my new house (luckily there was in my room at WDW in
    September).  Now I'm wondering if the winter issue has disappeared.

    Thanks.

    Marilyn

    The Winter issue had a cover of the Tokyo Magic Kingdom under a blanket
    of snow.
    
    

I picked up a subscription card at the Disney Store at the Pheasant Lane Mall
a couple weeks ago, and it had the rate as $14.95.

They had the winter issue in our Fort Wilderness trailer when we were there
for two whole days (sigh) after Christmas.  It sure was strange to see
Disneyland with snow (cover picture as mentioned in .54), but it was very
pretty and looked somehow natural...

							-- Nina

    Well I just renewed my subscription yesterday and here are the rates,
    
        $14.95 for 2 years 8 issues
        $23.95 for 4 years 16 issues
        
    Claude

    Thanks, I'll send in the card I've got.  Hopefully, my subscription
    will re-start with the Spring 1992 issue.
    
    - Skip

    The 1992 edition of The Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World is 
    now in the bookstores. I picked up a copy last night. The price has
    gone up to $11 this year but with good reason: Everything has been 
    rewritten and several new features and touring plans have been added. 
    The 1991 edition was 315 pages, the 1992 edition is 418 pages.
    
    One new feature which will be helpful to parents of small children is 
    the Small Child Fright Potential chart. It lists all rides and
    attractions in each park, with comments of what about that attraction
    might frighten a child. A few examples:
    
            Jungle Cruise - moderately intense, some macabre sights; 
            a good test attraction for little ones.
            
            Tom Sawyer Island - Some very small children are intimidated
            by dark, walk-through tunnels that can easily be avoided.
    
            Swiss Family Treehouse - Not frightening in any respect
    
    The new listing of tour plans for the MK:
    
            Magic Kingdom One-Day Touring Plan for Adults 
            
            Author's Selective One-Day Touring Plan for Adults
    
            Magic Kingdom One-Day Touring Plan for Parents with Small
            Children
    
            Magic Kingdom Dumbo-or-Die-in-a Day Touring Plan for Parents
            with Small Children
    
            Magic Kingdom Two-Day Touring Plan A, for When the Park is 
            Open Late
    
            Magic Kingdom Two-Day Touring Plan B, for Morning Touring
            and for When the Park Closes Early
    
    
    The Dumbo-Do-or-Die tour is designed to give small children as perfect
    a day in the Magic Kingdom as possible. Before going, a listed
    prerequisite for parents is to learn the words to "It's a Small, Small
    World".       
    
    For those outside the US who might want to order a copy, the ISBN
    number is 0-13-951047-8, and the publisher is Prentice Hall Travel in
    New York.
    
    Linda
                                                 

    RE: .58

>           Swiss Family Treehouse - Not frightening in any respect

    Provided, of course, that the child is not acrophobic!

    (Sorry...just couldn't resist)


    David.

    Keep your eye's peeled on your mail box, the Summer '92 issue of Disney
    News  is  now out and is loaded with articles on Euro Disney,  WDW  and
    Tokyo Disneyland and is 64 pages from cover to cover. 
    
    And speaking  about  covers  check out the front/back covers, the front
    cover is a  shot  from one of the rooms at the Disneyland Hotel looking
    right down Main Street towards Le Chateau  de  la belle au Bois Dormant
    (Sleeping Beauty to you non french types ;^)) talk about a room  with a
    view.  The back cover is the reverse shot taken from the Castle looking
    down main street toward the Disneyland Hotel, with the Disney News logo
    backwards, neat touch.
    
    The article are (and all 4 parks are touch here)
    
        Beinvenue, Euro Disney Resort! (some 20+ pages)
    
        Twenty years and Still growing  (WDW)
        
        Ray bradbury: The Walt Chronicles
    
        Tokyo Disneyland
    
        Toon in Tomorrow (Mickey's Toontown for DL)
    
        and an  assorted  number  of mini articles, include Disney vacation
        CLub.
    
    Boy looking over the pics of Euro Disney, it  is  sure one pretty park.
    It might just be the excuse I need to visit  over  there  one  of these
    days ;^).
    
    Claude

    Anyone have the phone number to get a subscription to Disney News.
    When I got my MKC card back in the fall I filled out the form
    that was attached to get a subscription. But you know how our
    personnel offices can be, they probably never sent it.

    Well, according to the latest issue there is no tel # for subscription,
    but the following addresses are listed
    
    Subscription from Table of COntents pages
    
        Disney News Subcriptions
        PO Box 3310
        Anaheim, Ca 92803
    
    Mail in Card has this address
    
        Disney News
        PO Box 53981
        Boulder, Co 80323-3981
    
        
        

    Has there been a new issue of Disney News out yet?
    
    I'm having trouble getting the magazine changed over to
    my new address. I keep sending letters to Disney News at the
    address listed in -.1, but I never hear a response.
    
    Just wondering if I've missed the Summer issue as well the
    three previous issues.

I ended up calling and complaining.  No issues since I moved last summer.  No
response to mail.  I called the disneyland switchboard and they transferred me. 
Left a voicemail and by the end of the day had received a promise of all missing
back issues and my subscription extended to next fall to make up for things. 
We'll see how they do.

    A phone number would be appreciated, thanks.

714-999-4565
Disneyland main switchboard

    thanks!
    
    I'll give them a call.