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> The living body pavilion in Future World is slated for opening in '90.


WOW!  Sounds like EPCOT has several new pavilions since I last visited.  Looks
like I will have to plan another trip there soon!

Now on to the business at hand...

The key to seeing EPCOT and beating most of the lines seems to be starting at
the back of the park and working your way forward.

The entrance to EPCOT is dominated by a 150 foot geosphere (or whatever
Buckmaster Fullerton used to call those things) which is an attraction
detailing the history of human communications (sponsored by, big surprise,
AT&T).  As with the submarine rides at Disneyland and DisneyWorld/Magic Kindom,
people see this thing and go ga-ga.  They MUST ride it NOW so the line at the
geosphere (a.k.a. "Spaceship Earth") is a million miles long 5 minutes after
the gates open.  Resist the urge and press on/past/under this thing and
continue walking toward the lake in the center of the complex.  There, board
the (I think it's) blue boat which will take you across the lake to the Italy
pavilion in the World Showcase.

At this point you will be on the far side of the park and most likely be by
yourself!  Explore the various "countries" represented in the World Showcase in
a counterclockwise direction.  By the time you wind up back at the entrance the
lines will be in much better shape.

There *is* one fly in the ointment with my suggestion: Kodak's "Journey into
Imagination" and/or the Michael Jackson film "Captain EO".  Kodak has a
diffraction 3-D film process which is the most amazing thing I've seen on a
movie screen ever (IMHO).  My plan means you miss this ride until late in the
day at which time the lines are RIDICULOUSLY long (would you believe 90 minutes
or more?).  Of course, the line for this ride is ALWAYS that way, so you
should just "punt" based on how tired you are, etc.

Hope this helps and more later (if encouraged),
David.

    These are  my  favorite  atractions/rides  in  EPCOT, can't wait to see
    Norway and the Living Body when I go again.
    
    FUTURE WORLD
    
    SpaceShip Earth,  is  a nice look at the world of comunication, present
    past and future.
 
    The Land, Kitchen Caberet.
    
    Journey Into Imagination,  every  thing,  Captian  EO,  Image Works and
    Journey into Imagination ride.
    
    World of Motion, is a nice poke at transportation present and future.
    
    Universe of Energy.
    
    Horizons.
    
    Comunicore East/West, Living Seas  are  my  least favorites and I these
    only if the line are short and if I have the time.
    
    WORLD SHOWCASE
    
    The American Adventure, you just  can't  help  feeling  patriotic after
    this one.
    
    Canada's 360 Movie
    
    France's 180 Movie
    
    The rest of the pavilians I do only if I have the time, most just shops
    and minor exibitions.
    
    Claude

    I read  somewhere  lately  that  the  LIVING  BODY in Future World will
    actually have EPCOT first real thrill ride, ala STAR TOUR in Disneyland
    and sound to be  in  the  MGM Studio tour.  Seem you will be put in the
    same type on similator that STAR TOUR uses but  instead  of  a  ride in
    space  you  will be in a ride inside a human  body,  tring  to  stop  a
    desease with  the  help  of  anti-body  audio-animatronic robots at the
    helm.  Sound like Fantasy Voyage and STAR TOUR combined.
    
    Claude

    The Wonders of Life pavilion is slated to open in late 1989 according
    to both the official and unofficial guides.
    
    It is presented by Metropolitan Life Insurance.   It features 
    
      o  Body Wars - A flight simulator ride through the human body
    
      o  Cranium Command - Audio-Anaimatronic character show about the
                           brain
    
      o  Fitness Fairgrounds - hands-on activities and exhibits

    This notes file is great.  I'm such a Disneyholic."
    
    Several people told me that they don't think the hydrolators at
    the Living Seas go anywhere.  Last fall I heard lots of people
    state the same thing when I was there.  
    
    The Official Guide to WDW has the distance.  (Hit next unseen
    if you don't want to know the answer.)
    
    
    
    They move two inches.

reply to < Note 11.4 by DEC25::STANLEY "Marilyn I. Stanley" >

>    The Wonders of Life pavilion is slated to open in late 1989 according
>    to both the official and unofficial guide.
    
    So I was off by a year, that what I get for bringing the '89 edition of
    the unofficial guide home  yesterday  (only have  an '84 edition of the
    official in my desk), and going by memory, ;^)
    
    Claude

reply to < Note 11.5 by DEC25::STANLEY "Marilyn I. Stanley" >
                              -< The Living Seas >-

>    Several people told me that they don't think the hydrolators at
>    the Living Seas go anywhere.  
    
    press return for another spoiler
    
    
    Claude
    
    
    It's amazing what a vibrating machine,  air  bubles  in  the  water and
    moving screenery will do for you, according to an employee I talked too
    it does in fact just goes down 2 inches

    Several years ago signs were up at several locations in the World
    Showcase indicating future sites for Africa, Spain, and Israel.
    
    However, I never heard anything about them opening.  Norway had
    been announced and opened between my last two visits.  
    
    I finally stopped by the teacher resource center in Communicore
    West and asked.  The funding did not come through for these countries.
    
    The staff was great at the center.  I chatted them for quite awhile.
    If you have any questions about future or past attractions or plans
    and feel rushed at Earth Station, try stopping at the center.  The
    staff was busy and was quite knowledgable about the planning of
    EPCOT.
    

    I am leaving in exactly 30 days, and I can't wait!!  I am surprised
    by the responses I have been reading about the Living Seas.  I was
    at WDW in '87 and really enjoyed the Living Seas (I had my 2 nephews
    with me at that time).  We made reservations early one morning and
    ate dinner at the Living Seas, this was outrageous.  We sat right
    across from the large tank, while eating our dinner, sharks, turtles,
    groupers, etc....were swimming right passed our table.  The kids
    were amazed and so was I.  At one point, one of the staff jumped
    in from the top of the tank and swam up to the window with a fork
    in his hand, and pretended to try to steal our dinner.  I thought
    the kids were going to die of laughter.  I really enjoyed this and
    the price was moderate.
    

    I had also heard (thanks to Disney noters) that the lines at Spaceship
    Earth were long.  The day we went to Epcot, we headed straight for
    Journey Into the Imagination.  There were no lines (this was around
    9:30-10:00, 3 weeks ago) at either the ride with Figment or for
    the Captain EO film (which by the way was a favorite for both me
    and my five year old daughter).  After we did this, we went into
    land and then started the country showcase.  That late afternoon
    and night, we did future showcase and had very short lines to none
    at all.

        The following is extracted (without permission) from a 
        Walt Disney World Information bulletin. I received 
        several of these bulletins after making my reservations 
        and later contacting Guest Letters about what new 
        information was available. These bulletins were made 
        available only after "asking" for information.
        
                Guest Letters
                Walt Disney World
                P.O. Box 10,040
                Lake Buena Vista, Florida, 32801
        
        Anyway, here's some info about the HEALTH ATTRACTION 
        scheduled for late 1989 at in EPCOT, Future world.
        Information Article dated 1987:
 
 "Metropolitan Life Insurance Company and the Walt Disney World Company 
 announced plans in July for a new 100,000 sq ft attraction devoted to the 
 exploration of human life and health to be built in EPCOT center at WALT 
 DISNEY WORLD Resort in Florida. John J Creedon, president and chief 
 executive officer of the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, and Michael D. 
 Eisner, chairman and chief executive officer of the Walt Disney Company, 
 outlined plans for the entertaining and educational health attraction to be 
 called Wonders of Life. The new area is scheduled to open in late 1989 in 
 Future World at EPCOT CENTER.
 
 ""This is an exciting undertaking for the Metropolitan Life Insurance,"" Mr. 
 Creedon said. ""It's a unique opportunity to continue our tradition of 
 health education that began in the 19th century. Through Disney's 
 entertainment magic, our pavilion will continue that tradition into the 21st 
 century"".
 
 The centerpiece of the attraction will be a 'ride through the body' using 
 motion-based film simulation. This DISNEY technology, recently introduced at 
 DISNEYLAND Park in California, creates a vividly realistic experience that 
 combines anatomical images with the sensation of a high-speed race against 
 time.
 
 Another attraction highlight is a 200-seat theatre, where a cast of newly 
 designed cartoon characters will present Cranium Command, a film and 
 Audio-Animatronics show that takes a humorous look at how the brain 
 functions as the communications center for the body. In the Fitness 
 Fairgrounds, guests can visit a fun house of thee five (5) senses and 
 participate in interactive computerized exhibitions. The attraction will 
 include a food center that specializes in nutritious snacks.
 
 This will also be the first time that a traditional DISNEY character will be 
 assigned to an EPCOT Center attraction. GOOFY will be featured in an 
 animated exhibit entitled Goofy About Health.
 
 The gold-domed attraction will be situated in an elaborately landscaped area 
 between Horizons and Universe of Energy in Future World."
 

    
    Listen-to-the-Land !
    
    Has anyone taken the "extended" 2-3 hour tour of the Land 
    Agriculture ?
    
    Is it worth the time ?
    
    What are the good points ?
    
    What are the not-so-good points ?
    
    Mark
    
    
  
    

    Yes, it takes a little over an hour, You must sign up very early
    5 Years ago they only took about fifty people a day. DO NOT TAKE
    SMALL CHILDREN UNLESS THEY ARE DOING GRADUATE WORK IN HYDROPONICS.
    The tour is very interesting, everyone in our group was into farming
    or greenhouses, without some interest in these, the tour might not
    be worth while, one point my sons ages 10 and 6 did turn in some
    very good science projects over the years since based on tha materials
    we were given.

    Someone asked me the other day what EPCOT was an acronym for and
    for the life of me I couldn't remember.  I recall some years ago
    I read what it stood for but my mind's a blank on it.
    
    Can anyone out their help me out.
    
    Tony

    i think someone earlier in this string said...
    
    every person comes out tired....
    
    but, i havent been yet---April is my first trip...so, can't
    say if that's right or not.
    
    deb
    

    
    
    EPCOT - Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow
    

    RE: .16
    
    Thanks for the quick response.

    
    Re: .14
    
      The Castmembers of Disney ('employee' in 'Disneyese' of which
    I am one of (as well as working here at DEC)) have another answer
    for what EPCOT is an acronym for:
    
        EPCOT - Expermental Polyester Costume Of Tomorrow
    
    (hey, I didn't make it up...don't blame me...)
    
    Rich

  I was at Epcot 3 days ago. When I came back I read my mail and saw that
this conference had just opened. What a coincidence!
  I was there on a Sunday, not during school or college vacation (maybe a few
colleges on vacation) and the crowds were not bad. I recommend that anyone
not locked into school vacations travel to Fla. at a non-vacation time. I also
have had good luck traveling over 6-7 days from mid-week to mid-week. I don't
know why the crowds were so light; the weather was excellent (a little too warm
for me).
  Years ago I had heard that they had a computer room where you could look in
thru a big window and see what was going on. On arrival I found out that this
exhibit is called Computer Central and is sponsored by Unisys. It's not what I
expected. You can look thru a window and see real computers working, but to any-
one who looks thru windows at a large computer room every day, as I do, it's
really hokey. It probably would be a big hit with someone who has never seen
a computer room before.
  In the World Showcase, I don't think anyone has mentioned China's 360 thea-
ter. I thought it was a little better than Canada's "360"; the resolution was
better and the scenery less familiar. France's 180 theater is excellent too.
  Not many people here have seen the Norway pavilion, so I'll comment on it.
I think only Norway and Mexico have rides. Norway's ride/show is called the
Maelstrom. You ride on simulated Viking ships over a course that is partly
belt-guided and partly free-running, with a short backwards stretch. You get
damp, but not wet as you would on a log flume ride, and it's not as scary as
a log flume. You then get off the boat, walk past an indoor simulated village,
and enter a theater where you see a short film. The restaurant is excellent;
they have an all-you-can-eat buffet of Norwegian and American food at lunch
and dinner (less expensive at lunch).

  I signed up for the Magic Kingdom Club, then read the fine print and
as far as I can tell there's no discount for a visit to Epcot. Does DEC have
a discount plan for Epcot? 

    I just finished reading "Walt Disney's EPCOT Center - Creating the
    New World of Tomorrow."  I remember seeing this book all over the
    airport last fall. 

    It was published in 1982 - same year as EPCOT opened and some of the
    information about the making of the exhibits is incorrect.

    Several future ride attractions were mentioned as planned but won't
    be ready for several years.  The rides were for Germany, Japan, 
    and the United Kingdom.  Does anyone know if they are still planned?

    
    RE: .8
    
       Don't worry...the discount you get on the World Passports with
    the MKC is the same tickets as you would use for Magic Kingdom as
    for EPCOT Center.  You can even get a discount on a One-Day Pass,
    if you only wanted to go for one day (Heaven Forbid!), and the dis-
    count tickets can be purchased at the Transportation and Ticket
    Center (Magic Kingdom) and EPCOT Center's ticket booths by just
    showing the MKC card.  As mentioned by others, the passports needn't
    be used consecutively(sp?), use 2 days of the 5-day and then come
    back 3(or 5 or 10) years later and use the rest.  The way prices
    keep going up, it's a better investment than gold.  
    
    In 'Disneyese', there is actually no place called 'Walt Disney World'
    (except Roy Disney named it this in a token move toward his passed-
    away brother, Walt).  The whole of the 43 square mile property is
    called 'EPCOT'.  What people commonly call 'Disneyworld', is known
    as the 'Magic Kingdom', (you know, the place with Cinderella's castle)
    and what people commonly call 'EPCOT' is known as 'EPCOT Center'(yeah,
    the big golf ball place).  Terminology is as big at WDW as it is
    here at DEC, perhaps, that's where your confusion lies...
    
    Rich
    
    PS:  As others have mentioned, REMEMBER: With a One-Day Passport
    you are stuck in either the Magic Kingdom or EPCOT Center, which-
    ever you choose....With the Three, Four or Five-Day Passports, you
    can wander back and forth, to and from both parks on the same day
    (just don't forget to have your hand stamped if you plan on returning
    to that original park or the other one on that same day).
    
    Clear as Mud?

     
    
    oops... above note was a reply for .20
    
    also wanted to say that I thought that that was where your confusion
    was...
    
    Rich
    (Who Needs to Go Back Soon)
    

    re: .15
    
    Years ago when it was new I was talking with some cast members in
    Captain Cooks Hideaway (WDW, Polynesian Resort), and they said it
    *really* stood for :-)...
    
    	Employees Pull Constant Over Time
    
    George
    

    
    
    When I went to WDW in 86', the show on the lake at night was referred
    to as the "Laser-phonics". At the conclusion of the show, a collection
    of green lasers at the American Adventure would wildly cast their
    beams at Spaceship Earth, creating an "image" of our planet onto
    its surface in such a way as to make the  famous EPCOT globe appear
    as the "earth rotating on its axis".                           

    This was quite a marvelous spectacle for the quests as they left
    EPOCT during it's closing for the evening.
    
    Question:  For those of you there most recently, do they still do
    this ?
    

    Mark
    

    
     Yes, they still do it at the end of the Illuminations show, but
    the wind has to be just right in order to blow the smoke from the
    fireworks out of the way of the beam.  Sometimes the smoke would
    hang over the World Showcase Lagoon and get inbetween Spaceship
    Earth and the American Adventure Pavillion (although, it's an neat
    thing to see the globe image appear on the cloud of smoke, but they
    usually turn it off when they realize it isn't reaching the full
    distance).

    Here's a  question  for any of the recent visitors to WDW, Where is the
    Wonders of Life pavilion going in Future World? 
    
    According to the  unofficial  guide, it leads you to beleive it's going
    in between Horizons and Universe of Energy (since  they describe Future
    World  in  counter  clockwise  fashion), but while watching the  Easter
    Parade yesterday on ABC, when they showed airial shots from  the blimp,
    I  could see Horizons and Universe of Energy, but didn't see  the  gold
    dome  of  Wonders  of Life.  (I had taped it and ran  it  through  slow
    motion to try and pick it up)
    
    Claude
    
    BTW  I did notice all the contruction between France and United Kingdom
    where they seem  to be building the canal/lake for the Swan and Dolphin
    Hotel and Convention Center.

    
    re: .27
    
    Claude,
    	I was there two weeks ago and saw the gold dome between (and
    slightly set back from) Energy and Horizons.
    
    				-Bill-

    This doesn't fit into one of the existing topic notes.
    
    In the "Universe of Energy" presented by Exxon, the Alaska Oil Pipeline
    is filmed with a great deal of the narration discussing environmental
    concerns.  Just as it ends, there's a panoramic shot of the port of
    Valdez, and a very large tanker leaving it.  It was _not_ the Exxon
    Valdez but it struck me as odd as the Challenger Space Shuttle license
    plates.

I heard on WBZ yesterday (Thursday) that there was an interesting article in the
Thursday Orlando Sentinel.  It said that the Swiss government had agreed to
build a pavillion in the EPCOT Center.  This pavillion would have as an
attraction the MATTERHORN ride, the same as what's currently in Disneyland.

That certainly got me excited.

Speaking of EPCOT, the Wonders of Life Pavillion is scheduled to open later this
year.  And they are working great guns on the Swan and Dolphin Resorts.  There
will be a boat service of some sort from these resorts to both the EPCOT Center
and the MGM Studios, with evidently an alternate entrance to both parks.  The 2
resort hotels are (or will be) both situated on a lake that will run between
EPCOT and MGM.

We saw work being done on 2 huge swans (maybe 40 or 50 feet tall) that will be
symbols for the resort.  From what we saw, the symbol for the Dolphin Resort
will be a dolphin's tail, rather than a whole dolphin.

--Jay

rep to <<< Note 11.29 by AUGGIE::FEELEY "Growing older but not up..." >>>

>It said that the Swiss government had agreed to
>build a pavillion in the EPCOT Center.  This pavillion would have as an
>attraction the MATTERHORN ride, the same as what's currently in Disneyland.

    Gee if they can only build by April '92.
    
>We saw work being done on 2 huge swans (maybe 40 or 50 feet tall) that will be
>symbols for the resort.  From what we saw, the symbol for the Dolphin Resort
>will be a dolphin's tail, rather than a whole dolphin.

    From what I've read (and going by memory, better watch those facts ;^))
    The Swan symbols  are  to  be  5 stories tall and the Dolphin 6 stories
    tall in addition the number of floors for rooms.
    
    Claude

    Perhaps this belongs in "Recent Trip Reports", but can anyone give
    me a little more information on Norway's new ride (Maelstrom?)?
    I have read other replies here which state, in effect, that this
    ride is "a thrill ride".  Yes?  No?  Eh?
    
    My questions are: (1) is it a thrill ride?
                      (2) how "bad" is it compared to, say, Space Mountain?
                          Will a chicken like me be able to take it,
                          or should I just smile and move on to some
                          other pavilion?
                      (3) how similar is it to the ride in Mexico (same
                          idea, or totally different)?
    
    
    Any info is greatly appreciated,
    David.

    
�   My questions are: (1) is it a thrill ride?

    Well, yes.....  It's fairly exciting, a little "scary," a bit jumpy,
    but it's not a coaster or anything, and you don't need seat belts.
    
�                     (2) how "bad" is it compared to, say, Space Mountain?
�                         Will a chicken like me be able to take it,
�                         or should I just smile and move on to some
�                         other pavilion?

    Oh nothing like Space Mountain - it's a "look at and see" kind of ride
    like "Pirates," but with a few fun little surprises.  No problem,
    hop on, even chickens will love it!
    
�                     (3) how similar is it to the ride in Mexico (same
�                         idea, or totally different)?

    Bigger, more ornate boat, and not a slow, leisurely ride like Mexico.
    
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS

    
    
    It is definately NOT a thrill ride...
    
    

    Africa was supposed to be one of the original countries in the World
    Showcase.  They lost funding and they fell by the way side.  The
    same was true of Spain.  Rumors have it that Disney canceled Israel
    - afraid of possible terrorist attacks.
    
    As to why the Wonders of life didn't show up on the Parade?  Stock
    Footage of the park.  I can remember being there in 86 just after
    the Living Seas opened and seeing pictures just showing grass where
    the pavillion actually stood.
        
    I worked at the Land Pavillion at the Land Theaters comprised of
    the Harvest Theather (  a 20 minute look at Man's relationship with
    the Land) and the Kitchen Kaberet (Thank you folks for coming to
    my kitchen, as we sing the priase of good nutrition!).  I used to
    have a lot of time to kill before the start of the movie Symbosis
    at the Harvest Theater.  I used to inform the guests about EPCOT
    Outreach in Communicore West.  They have tons of information that
    they are willing to give out dealing with any of the subjects at
    EPCOT Center or Disney in general.  If you're not sure which way
    is west, face Spaceship Earth with the World Showcase behind you
    you will be facing north so your left would be west and your right
    would be east.  Just like looking up Main Street USA towards
    Cinderella's Castle is north too!
    
    Just about every pavilion has some sort of inside joke or story
    to it.  As I get more time I'll write about them.  Also, the screen
    at France is 220 degrees, not 180.
    
    Lastly, another meaning for EPCOT - Every Parent Comes Out Tired.

    The Norway Ride is fun but not a upsetting stomach turning ride.
     I will not ride Space Mountain or Big Thunder and never will but
    I rode the Norway ride at least 3 times.

    Has anyone eaten in the restaurant in The Land that supposedly rotates?
    Can anyone tell me when it rotates what you see on the other side of
    the restaurant?  Just curious?
    
    

Rep to .36 

Thr restaurant is called the Land Grille Room, formerly the "Good Turn
Restaurant".   It serves specialty American cuisine and is very good.  What you
see as you turn is the Listen to the Land boat ride.

--Jay

    If I remember correctly, on the "other side" of the Land Grille
    Room you can see the Tropical Forest, Desert and Prarie(sp?) scenes.

    Is the Land Grille a good place to eat breakfast?  Also, it is very
    crowded in the morning?

    
    R.E. the scenes... you see tropical, desert, farm and then a large
    mural for ten mins or so. ! rev takes about 45 mins.  You see the
    scenes from above as opposed to the view from the cars in the water.
    
    Yes, the Land Grill is our favorite place for breakfast. Get there
    early.
    
    Jim
    

    A quick note about the Land Grill:  Not only do you see the various
    scenes, but you can feel them as well (just as you do in the ride,
    though maybe not as much).
    
-Andy

    We had lunch at the Land Grille. Food and Service were excellent.
    We reserved the night before at about 21:30 by phone, but people
    who arrived on-spec were only waiting 10-15 mins before their names
    were called. The Waiting Area has comfortable seats, and is next
    to the Rest Rooms so waiting was no great hardship. The rotating
    restaurant didn't impress me, you had to stand up to take in the
    detail of the Land scenes, and because you are moving so slowly
    through each scene, you got the complete audio show several times.
    This was distracting at first, and downright annoying the third
    or fourth time through, with disembodied howls, grunts and screeches.
    The only benefit of the rotation was that it took you away from
    the eyes of the crowd, who sometimes treated you as another attraction.
    Treat it as a full service restaurant, with good food and service,
    at reasonable prices, and you will be well satisfied. The rotation
    may be a bonus, or may be a distraction, but shouldn't be part of
    the decision process IMHO.
    
    Mike B.

    re: .42
    
    Mike,
    
    Were you  seated along the edge of the restaurant or toward the middle?

    I've always been  seated  along the edge, and had no problem seeing the
    scences from the Land boat ride, of course we were always a small group
    of 4 or less when going too.
    
    Claude

    re: .42
    
    I, too, have been seated on the edge on several occasions and had no 
    problem seeing the scenes (tops of 'em at least in the case like the
    farmhouse).  Likewise, usually in a group of four.  I also didn't
    really listen alot to the tour (don't remember hearing it) but *do*
    remember the squaks..guess in that case it's anyones call for either/or
    annoying or atmosphere.
    
    What gets me is the timing.  Somewhere in the viscinity of 42-45 mins
    and I've always in 3+ visits ended within a meter (+/-) of where I've
    bugun without ever feeling "rushed" through my meal to meet the proper
    timing considerations.  Great timing and a nice touch.
    
    George
    

    Yes Claude, we were seated on the inside, on the (slightly) higher
    level which probably explains it, although some people sitting alongside
    us on the outside seemed to need to stand up to get details. I don't
    want to detract from the restaurant, it lived up to all your
    recommendations, but the rotation wasn't a great selling point for
    us.
    
    Mike B.

    Vinzenz, maybe you can answer this as you just returned from Epcot.
    Has the new Metropolitan Insurance ride through the body or what
    ever its called opened?  Do you know when its going to.
    
    
    28 days and counting....................
    

    < Note 11.46 by SPGBAS::CAMPBELL >
                             -< Metropolitan Ride >-

>   Vinzenz, maybe you can answer this as you just returned from Epcot.
>   Has the new Metropolitan Insurance ride through the body or what
>   ever its called opened?  Do you know when its going to.

    It's called 'Wonders Of Life', but it's not open yet, the sign at the
    entrance said something like fall '89.  Outside of the attraction
    everything was completed including landscaping and walkway up to the
    entrance (which just was roped off).
    
                                 
    Vinzenz

    Like many others, my family enjoys the preparation for a trip to Disney
    World. As part of the preparation, we attempt to determine what
    attractions we want to see/ride/do hands-on and which restaurants we
    want to try in EPCOT.  As a starting point, we began with the following
    list of the known attractions and restaurants in EPCOT. I thought that
    maybe this list will be helpful to someone else. If I've missed
    anything, I'm sure some kind soul will help me out.
    
    Needless to say, we plan on taking in all of the attractions at EPCOT,
    along with eating at 5 of the restaurants.

    peter

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FUTURE WORLD

____	Spaceship Earth Geisphere

	____	Ride through show about communication (16 minutes)


____	Living Seas

	____	Caribbean Coral Reef Ride (3 minutes)

	____	Seabase Alpha

	____	Seabase Concourse

	____	Coral Reef Restaurant


____	The Land

	____	Listen to the Land Boat ride (12 minutes)

	____	Harvest Tour - Walking tour of the land (45 minutes)

	____	SYMBIOSIS - Movie (19 minutes)

	____	Kitchen Kabaret (13 minutes)

	____	The Land Grille Room Restaurant

	____	Farmers Market - counter service stands


____	Journey into Imagination

	____	Journey into Imagination Ride (13 minutes)

	____	Captain EO 3D movie (17 minutes)

	____	Image Works - hands-on activities


____	World of Motion

	____	World of Motion Ride (15 minutes)

	____	Transcenter - exhibits and small shows


____	Horizons

	____	Horizons Ride (15 minutes)


____	Universe of Energy

	____	Energy ride and preshow (27 minutes)


____	Communicore East

	____	EPCOT Computer Central - many computer related activites

	____	American Express Travelport - info on vacations and locations

	____	Energy Exchange - exhibits and taped programs

	____	Electronic Forum - polls

____	Communicore West

	____	FUTURECOM - some hands-on exhibits

	____	EPCOT Outreach

____	NEW Wonders of Life pavilion 
    
    	____	Body Wars ride (6 minutes)
    
    	____	Cranium Command
    
	____	Hand-on exhibits

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WORLD SHOWCASE

Besides the attractions and restaurants in the World Showcase, should allow
time to view the buildings and landscaping at each pavilion, and take advantage 
of the many opportunities for taking pictures.  NOTE - there are shops in most
pavilion to meander through.

____	Canada

	____	O Canada - CircleVision 360 movie (18 minutes)

	____	Le Cellier - counter at lunch, table service after 5

	____	Refreshment Port


____	England

	____	Rose & Crown Pub & Dining Room


____	France

	____	Palais Du Cinema - 18 minute travel film on France

	____	Chefs de France Restaurant

	____	Bistro de Paris Restaurant

	____	Boulangerie Patisserie - Bakery and Pastry shop

	____	Au Petit Cafe

____	Morocco

	____	Marrakesh Restaurant


____	Japan

	____	Mitsukoshi Restaurant

		____	Tempura Kiku

		____	Teppanyaki Dining Room


____	American Adventure

	____	American Adventure Show (29 minutes)

	____	Liberty Inn - fast food


____	Italy

	____	L'Originale Alfredo di Roma Ristorante


____	Germany

	____	Biergarten Restaurant


____	China

	____	Wonders of China: Land of Beauty, Land of Time
			CircleVision 360 movie (19 minutes)

	____	Nine Dragons Restaurant

	____	Lotus Blossom Cafe - fast-food counter
			sweet & sour pork, egg rolls, soup


____	Norway

	____	Longboat ride & movie (14 minutes)

	____	Akershus Restaurant

	____	Kringla Bakeris og Kafe - sweets & open face sandwiches

____	Mexico

	____	El Rio Del Tiempo: The River of Time boat ride (9 minutes)

	____	San Angel Inn Restaurante

	____	Cantina de San Angel - quick Mexican snacks

    ***Copied without permission from Auto Club News (AAA)****

                 Disney kicks off fall season of vacation
                 excitement with Wonders of Life premiere

    A twisting, plunging thrill ride through the human body sweeps Walt
    Disney World visitors into a simulated battle between trauma troops and
    infection fighters in "Body Wars," the centerpiece attraction in Epcot
    Center's newest pavilion Wonders of Life.

    Opening in October, Wonders of Life is a gold-domed marvel of modern
    science and technology presented by Metropolitan Life Insurance Co. The
    pavilion showcases the nerve-tingling "Body Wars" adventure and
    features a tableau of life and health that includes a lyrical,
    forthright film about the conception and birth of a child.

    "Body Wars," a white-knuckle ride through the human body's immune
    system in Wonders of Life, combines the sensations of a high-speed race
    against time with stunning anatomical images produced through computer
    graphics and special-effects film techniques.

    To create the adventure, Disney Imagineers collaborated with experts at
    Industrial light and Magic, the production division of Lucasfilm Ltd.
    that developed "Star Tours." An action-packed thrill ride through outer
    space, "Star Tours" is now at Disneyland and coming soon to the
    Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park.

    Instead of an outer-space battle, the "Body Wars" inner-space conflict
    begins with an attack on the epidermis by a giant, germ-carrying
    splinter. The visitors' capsule -- actually a 40-passenger flight
    simulator -- soon is racing to find the immune-system ammunition need
    to fend off the troops of bacteriological invaders.

    The ninth major pavilion in Future World, Wonders of Life also
    features:
	- "Cranium Command," a light-hearted (or light-headed) look inside
	  the brain of a 12-year-old boy. Guests seated inside a giant head
	  for the "boy's-eye-view" of life watch an "Audio-Animatronics"
	  Capt. Cortex direct a cartoon "Body Crew" through a dramatization
	  of the relationship between the boy's mind and body.
	- "It's Our Baby," an emotion-filled motion-picture telling the
	  story of a young married couple and the development and birth of
	  their first child.
	- "Goofy About Health," starring Walt Disney's most famous "expert"
	  on the do's and don'ts (mostly don'ts) of health habits.
	- "Coaches' Corner," in which three famous professional athletes
	  give tips for better swings in tennis, golf and baseball.
	- "The Anacomical Players," an improvisational theater troupe which
	  presents short skits with health-related themes.

    Much of the festive pavilion is devoted to the Fitness Fairgrounds -- a
    collection of participatory exhibits which includes "Coaches' Corner"
    and energy-measuring exercisers.

    And health food is taste-tempting at "Desserts & Things," the
    pavilion's food bar where whole-grain waffles with fresh fruit toppings
    are standard fare.

    Nestled among soft pines, the domed Wonders of Life pavilion features
    an entrance marked by a 75-foot-tall spiraling DNA tower which
    accurately depicts the structure of cells which determine human
    heredity.

    

    I want to go.
    
    I want to go.
    
    I WANNA GO NOW!
    
    too many days left til Febuaruy school vacation.
    #ed
    

    Well the Fall issue of Disney News is out, the main article (cover)
    is about the fall opening of Wonders Of Life pavilion in Epcot.
    It will contain the following;
    
    Body Wars - Similator ride similar to Star tours, about the travels
    through a human body in a minature sub trying to rescue a scientist
    who was researching a problem in a patient.
    
    Cranium COmmand - Audio-Animatronic show, about a cranuim commando
    who is earning his stripes, by managing a crew of body parts, inside
    a 12 year olds body.
    
    The Making of Me - a film about the personal story of a married couple
    experiencing the prenancy and delivery of their first child.
    
    Fitness Fairgrounf - a collection of hands on exhibits, shows and
    demonstrations
    
    Claude

    Any mention of opening date of Wonders of Life pavilion?
    

    According to the person I just spoke to at the Walt Disney World
    Information number, the scheduled opening date for the Wonders of
    Life pavilion is October 27.
    
    I hope they don't "slip the schedule" too much since we'll be
    there from October 29 through November 4.

    Wouldn't ya just know it!  My kids and I will be going back home
    on the 25th.  Maybe they'll have a "preview week" -- I hope, I hope.
    
    We'll be getting there on the 18th.  Five days to go!  (Who's
    excited?!)
    
    Joanna
    

    I just called WDW info to "confirm" the opening date for
    the Wonders of Life Pavilion.  They are now estimating it
    will open on October 30.  I'll be calling again late next
    week and will add an update here at that time.  Unless they
    mess up in a bad way, we should be there for the opening!!!

    
    The wonders of life was open last wednesday for cast members only.
    They also opened thursday and saturday "soft opening".  We got in
    on saturday and it was great!  Body wars is a ride-like attraction
    where you sit in a mini-theater and travel through a person as a
    miniturized ship.  Super!  Cranium command is a move with a/a figure
    moving around in front interacting with different screens.  Very,
    very funny!
    
    A must see!
    

    They are still giving October 30 as the opening day.

    I managed to get into the pavillion early since I have my connections
    with cast members.  The pavillion was actually open to cast memebers
    from October 16th on.  I had got in on Wednesday, October 18, literally
    throught the back door.  Body Wars was Great!!  It is the exeact same
    type of technology that is used in Star Tours.  You are in a simulator
    and you go jounting through the human body.  To back up for a second,
    the pavillion is a cross between The Land and The Living Seas.  You
    walk into an open area that has all sorts of hands on experiences.
    They have sections devoted to the senses: touch, sight, hearing.  A
    live theater area with the Anatomical Players is in the middle of the
    building with 2 other theater areas. Another theater area called Goofy
    About Health starring , of course, Goofy.  The Making Of Me is not
    ready yet and won't be for some time. (months)  The day that I went in,
    Cranium Command was 101 AKA broken.
    
     

    	The Wonders of Life Pavillion is great.  We were down there
    the week of the 16th of October, and on Thursday the pavillion was
    open for what they call a "soft" open.  So, it is not advertised
    as open, but it is for people that want to take advantage of it.
     There were signs everywhere saying that since this was  a test,
    using the exhibit was at your own risk.
    
    	Body Wars was great!!!!!  It is a redo of the old "Vantastic
    Voyage" movie in a way.  You are supposedly shrunken down and injected
    into the body to get a scientist that is all ready in there.  Through
    the course of the ride, you go through the heart, the lungs, and
    the brain.  It was really great, very bumpy and probably not for
    people that are really squeamish.  The film that is playing during
    the ride was directed by Leonard Nimoy and stars Tim Matheson and
    the girl that was in "Adventures in Babysitting", the original "Karate
    Kid", and "Cocktail"  to name a few of her films, I forget her name.
    
    	Cranium Connection is a tour through the brain of a twelve year
    old boy.  It also has some well known characters in the film that
    goes along with the ride including Hans and Franz from Saturday
    Night Live.
    
    	The whole Wonders of LIfe Pavillion was great!  I liked all
    of the hands on stuff that they had, and everything else.
    
    	

rep to <<< Note 11.59 by SALEM::FERMAN >>>
    
>    	Body Wars was great!!!!!  It is a redo of the old "Vantastic
>    Voyage" movie in a way.  

    do you mean Fantastic Voyage?
    
>    The film that is playing during
>    the ride was directed by Leonard Nimoy and stars Tim Matheson and
>    the girl that was in "Adventures in Babysitting", the original "Karate
>    Kid", and "Cocktail"  to name a few of her films, I forget her name.

    Elisabeth Shue
        
    
        
    	

    does anyone know if the Wonders of Life Pavillion did open as scheduled
    on Oct 31st?
    
    peter

    I made my monthly pilgrimage to DISNEY on saturday (11/4/89).
    
    The Wonders of Life is OPEN.
    
    Since we arrived early (09:00) we were able to walk directly into *BODY
    WARS* .  There was a host asking if this was our first time through and
    if so we were to read the *warning*.  Seems BODY WARS is a *turbulent*
    *high speed* *thrill* ride with all the disclaimers as to who shouldn't
    ride it.
    
    I rode it anyway.
    
    Thought it was *GREAT*.  We went back in the afternoon and had to wait
    about a hour to ride it the second time.  It was still *GREAT*
    
    Crainium Commander was also *GREAT* though we didn't go back the second
    time.  We will on next visit.
    
    The Making of Me was also showing.  I guess I expected more since it
    was said it was going to be contorversial.  I wanted to see it before
    it might be discontinued.  Unless I missed something I saw no need for
    controversy.  If there is there are some real narrow minded people.
    
    All in all it was a *GREAT* way to spend my 23 wedding anniversary.
    
    We did go home early.

    I heard the the controversy had to do with a line that went something
    like "And when the sperm and egg meet, life begins."  I guess it
    appears that Disney or Met Life is taking a Pro-Life stance.

    I happened to be at EPCOT 2 weeks ago and went into the Wonders of Life
    Pavilion during one of their "soft opening" days.  We went straight to
    the "Body Wars" ride, and stood in line for 20 - 30 minutes.  Read all
    kinds of warnings about turbulence along the way.  They weren't
    kidding.   I, for one, did not like this ride.  The simulation of the
    high speeds of traveling through the body, along with the simulated
    turbulence was more than my stomach could take.  I couldn't wait to get
    out of that one.   I would advise that anyone who is susceptible to
    motion sickness either avoid this ride, or take your Dramamine ahead of
    time.   I actually felt so lousy after leaving this ride, I didn't care
    to look at the rest of the pavilion.   Space mountain was never like
    this.
    
    We did look at some of the hands on displays they had in this pavilion.
    Reminded me a lot of a cross between the Children's museum in Boston,
    and the Science Museum. Lots of things to touch, listen to, and see
    (optical illusions).
    
    Next time I go in there, I'll avoid Body Wars, and enjoy the rest of
    the Wonders of Life.
    
    Joan

    Though I did enjoy this ride I too heard others that left the ride say
    they should have heeded the *warnings*.  Motion sickness seems to be
    the major culpret(sp).
    
    If you're at all sensitive you might want to avoid this attraction.
    

    
    I too went on Body Wars during the soft opening.  While waiting
    to get on the ride I was told by a Disney Cast Member that for
    each car of 40 people the average is that 3 people get motion
    sick to some degree.  I do get motion sick but didn't on this
    ride.  I have to admit a few time I closed my eyes when my stomch
    felt a little funny.
    
    Also as a hint for the ride.  When I went on it they has two lines
    going - a left and right line.  The left line went much faster
    then the right.
    
    

    I too felt a little queezy after Body Wars - enough so that we
    didn't go on it again when we had the chance.  I wonder if they
    could tone down the ride on one of the shuttles for those of us
    sensitive people.  The longest lines were at the Making of Me,
    45 min to 1 hr., so we didn't get the opportunity to see the movie.

    Has anyone who's ridden Star Tours in Disneyland also been on Body Wars
    in EPCOT??  I realize that it may be too soon to ask but I thought it
    might be interesting if someone in the know could compare the two (with
    regard to the queasiness factor).  I rode Star Tours a couple of years
    ago and didn't feel the least bit queasy.  And I was wondering if maybe
    Body Wars is a "rougher" ride.
    
    - Skip

    Does any one no what are the restrictions on Body Wars. I have a
    young child, will they be able to go on this?
    
    Thanks,
    

    I believe they recomend that children under 3 not go on the ride.
    I don't recall any height restrictions.  They also require that
    each person is in their own seat and that they are seat belted
    in.
    
    dan

      Any restrictions/warnings for people with bad backs or women who
    are pregnant??

    There is the standard list of warnings for people with heart conditions
    pregnant women etc.  If I had a very bad back I certainly would not go
    on the ride, its very bumpy and jerky.

    Just got back last night from 12 days in and around WDW.
    
    We, myself, my wife, 12 year old daughter and 10 year old son, went on 
    Body Wars 5 times.  We all thought it was a great ride and really
    enjoyed it each time.  You do get joustled a bit.  I rode on Star Tours
    a few years ago and thought that it was a much rougher ride and would
    have a more adverse affect on people who tend to get motion sickness.
    The waits we encountered for Body Wars ranged from 5 minutes to 40
    minutes.  Remember, this was supposed to be the offseason.
    
    Cranium Command was great also, I enjoyed it as much as my kids.  The
    only wait we had for Cranium Command was when we missed the start of a
    show.  There is a cute preshow about five minutes before the show.  If
    you have kids, let them go to the front of the theater for the preshow.
    
    We did not see the Making of Me, the line was very, very long.
    
    peter

    The highlight of our recent trip was going to the Wonders of Life
    pavilion on opening day, 10/30.  The lines were so long we decided
    to look around and then leave.  We tried out Body Wars the next
    morning with a 10 minute wait around 10:00.  Body Wars is great!
    We asked one of the cast members why children under 3 shouldn't
    ride (ours is 2).  She said it has something to do with a muscle
    in their back being underdeveloped.  But, here's the important
    thing for those of you with little ones, they do something called
    a "baby switch".  This is how it worked.  My husband and I both
    stood in line with the baby.  When we got to the front of the
    line they let him go on as the last person in a row.  I waited
    with the baby while he rode.  When his ride was done, I went on
    as the first person in the row he had been in and handed him the
    baby.  This was great since we only had to wait in line once.
    
    We also saw "The Making of Me".  It was ok but not great.  My
    favorite attraction was Cranium Command.  We did get to try a
    lot of the hands on stuff but it wasn't easy.  I think we would
    have skipped all of that if we had gone at a busier time.
    
    As for the rest of Epcot, we did all of the Future World stuff
    (including some of the hands on stuff in Communicore which we
    couldn't get to in busier times) and Mexico in the World
    Showcase.  We did stroll around there but didn't bother to stop
    other than to have some light snacks.  
    
    We were really pleased that they were having the Illuminations
    show.  The park was open until 9:00 with Illuminations at 9:00.
    I guess they feel it's worth it to run this even during the
    off season.  My only gripe is that I haven't found a spot on the
    lagoon where I can see ALL of the show.  There's always at least
    one country that I can't see.
    
    Best of all, my lifetime dream came true on Horizons.  I'm not
    especially fond of most of this ride but I LOVE that huge movie
    screen stuff at the beginning - you know, that wonderful DNA chain!
    Well, we were just about in the center of the screen when the
    ride stopped.  We got to see the whole film (usually you get
    to see about 3/4 of it per ride) and some overlap.  It was GREAT!

    Going next week! (So excited!)  But about Illuminations...
    
    We went to Epcot about three years ago, and wanted to stay for
    Illuminations, but it was a wet drizzly day and the show was a dud.
    But worst, we were in a really rotton position, and could see
    absolutely nothing of the little there was to see.
    
    So, any pointers as to the better locations for viewing Illuminations,
    and the right moment to stake your claim?
    
    Sherry

    You are probably thinking of Laserphonic Fantasy, the show they did
    several years ago.  I think Illuminations started it's run in the
    summer of 1988.  It covers much more of the Lagoon, as well as most of
    the World Showcase pavilions.

    I can recommend a place *not* to stand: where we saw Illuminations
    from last month.  We had caught the last show of the American
    Adventure, and were standing between America and Japan.  Since the
    American Gardens Theatre juts out into the lagoon just to our right as
    we faced Spaceship Earth, our view of most of the east side of the
    lagoon was blocked.  The westerly view of UK and Canada were blocked by
    the small islands in the lagoon.  We had hoped to make it back for
    another look, but we never made it.

    I understand that they set a "sitting on the ground" only area on World
    Showcase Plaza.  (Where they do the character greetings during the
    day.)  Our dinner companions that night sat there, and had a great
    view.  They were also a lot closer to the exit the we were.  I don't
    know how early you have to stake out your claim.  I guess it depends on
    how busy Epcot is that day.

    We watched  from  the  left of Mexico facing toward the Lagoon, and was
    able to see most of the effects.
    
    Claude

    Try standing between Norway and China.  That is usually a pretty
    good position, but what out if the wind is blowing in your direction.
    
    Joel

We just came back.  We ended up in EPCOT 7 out of 8 nights for dinner and we 
watched illuminations just about every night.

We would usually watch from around the country where we ate dinner.
On the last night, we watched it from dead center as you enter Wrold Showcase
from Future world.  The American pavillion was directly across the lagoon.  This
was by far the best place to view the show.  In my experience, there is not 
even a close second place location.

From other positions around the lagoon, I could not tell what the laser show 
was all about.  The barges create a "water wall" with fountains and the laser 
show is projected onto the water.  From our location, you could view this 
perfectly.  On the other nights, we could not tell what was going on.  Also,
the show has has a lot of symetry which is based on watching from that location.
You definately get the senstation that the show is made to viewed from that
location.

They rope off an area in front of the lagoon where you must sit the entire show.
I arrived too late to sit there, but I stood behind and had a good view.
I was standing back far enough that I could not see Mexico or Canada, as they 
were on the side of me and obstructed by other buildings.  

The show is excellent, but I was surprised that not all of the countries 
participate.  I don't think that Norway or Morrocco are part of the show.

Another big advantage of staying up front is that you can make a beeline out of
the park after the show.  From the back (ie near US pavilion), it takes a long
time to get out and the monorail and busses will be packed.  The only time we 
had to wait to get on a monorail was when we were in the back of World 
Showcase when the show finished.  From the front, we were able to walk right 
onto a monorial.  If you see a long line at the monorial when you get out, 
don't be tempted to try the busses.  We tried that once and it was terrible.  
It took us over 45 minutes to get back to the TTC that night.  What a mistake.
Another night we watched from the back, and when we got to the monorail, it was
packed.  We stood in line and had to wait for two monorails.  That only took
about 12 minutes.
 
Enjoy yourself.

/Jim Pappas

    We watched Illuminations from between the entrance to the World
    Showcase and Mexico.  We staked out our place along the fence just to
    the left of the gift shop.  I thought it was a good spot.
    
    I agree with the comment about the long lines at the monorail station.
    Don't be concerned.  We waited only 10 minutes or so then walked non-
    stop from the entrance, right up the ramps, and right into a monorail
    car.  It is reallt amazing how many people Disney can move in a short
    amount of time.
    
    Gary

    
    Well, I guess we have seen Illuminations maybe 15 times. It just
    happens that because of work, vacations and my parents retiring
    to Florida that we have been to Florida five times in two years.
    And every trip we hit WDW. Anyway, as to where you sit/stand, we
    think it depends on what your objectives are.
    
    I agree with the reply that for the absolute best viewing position,
    you get a position at the rail of the lagoon at the head of world
    showcase. Of course you will stand or sit on the ground. Unless
    you get a bench slightly to the side which is a good compromise.
    I think a good alternative is the elevated walkway around the Japanese
    building. It's 20 feet above the ground and the end faces the lagoon
    with a pretty good view. But you have to stand.
    
    A seat in the American theater near the lagoon is not first rate
    for view, but comfortable and we love the show in the American
    pavilion. If you hit the show 30 minutes before Illuminations, then
    you come out just before it starts and usually can get a seat unless
    it's the 4th of July or something.
    
    There are a lot of good positions in some of the restaurants but
    you can't hear anything so we avoid those.
    
    My favorite spot overall is the Mexican restaurant right on the
    lagoon (the outside one, can't remember the name). You get there
    an hour before, grab a Dos Equis and mellow out, resting your feet.
    Very good view, nice atmosphere, but you need a table close to the
    rail or the trees get in the way.
    
    Regards, Jim
    

    re: .81
    
    Cantina de San Angel is the name of the outdoor Mexican resturant.
    
    We ate inside the pavillion at the San Angel Inn...outside would've
    been better for a family group...although the kids did have fun
    keeping the waiters hopping filling water glasses.  They were at a
    separate table from we adults and took turns guzzling water because
    the waiters were so diligent they would spring to refill the kid's
    glasses.  (We didn't realize this until months later when the kids
    were recalling the fun they had at the Mexican resturant).
    
    The menu is almost the same outside as it is inside, but at much
    lower prices...and if you time the meal right you've got a good
    seat for Illuminations as .81 mentioned.
    
    Gary  

    I'm not sure this is the right place for this note, but seems
    appropriate!  (Feel free to move it Mr. Moderator!)
    
    I need advice!!  Seems as though most people either love/hate the Body
    Wars attraction in Wonders of Life.  We (9, ranging in age from 7-79!)
    are showing up there next week (3 days 17 hours, 10 minutes, but who's
    counting?)  I'm concerned about Body Wars; since nobody has done it,
    this would be a logical 'first stop' early in the morning; but I don't
    want 2 or 3 of us to get sick or upset by that ride and slow down a
    whole day for the whole crew.
    
    I like the Tilt-a-whirl ride at a local amusement park, but decided
    after my last WDW trip that I would not ride Big Thunder Mountain
    Railroad again, because the jerking from pull of gravity made my back
    hurt for the rest of the evening.  My daughter on the other hand LOVES
    the roller coaster type rides, but does not like the "Circle Vision"
    scenes that zoom in over the mountain tops; they make her dizzy &
    light-headed.
    
    So what I think I need is some sort of 'quasi-technical' discussion of
    the sensations that the body feels . . . 
    
    Anybody willing to try to describe?
    
    Thanks a BUNCH!!  (And I promise a full trip report, complete with how
    we decided to handle Body Wars!!!!)
    
    Maryann
    

Ok Maryann I'll bite...

Body wars is a simulation ride.  You enter into the chamber and are seat 
belted into your chair.  The ride itself is a combination of up and down and
back and forth movements (jerking around) and visual things on the screen in
front of you.

I too get motion sick and enjoyed it a few time I did feel a little sick so
I just closed my eyes for a few secs.  When I opened them up I was fine.

Hope this help,

Dan

    I was afraid of motion sickness, so I got those seasick patches from
    the doctor before I left. Had no problem on any ride, and I usually
    get very ill very easily. Only side effect I noticed was avery dry
    mouth. Might be worth it, to enjoy everything and not worrying.
    
    Linda

    Piece of cake, Maryann.  The warnings, etc, are just hype used to 
    enhance your experience.  Don't let them bully you out of trying it.
    If you do have doubts, do it later in the night when there's not so
    great a crowd.  Or take me and I'll ride it for you. [its a dirty job,
    but someone has to do it ;-) ]
    ed
    

    Maryann,
    
    	    Body Wars and Star Tours are identical 'hardware' - 5 or 6 
    rows of 9 or 10 seats all bolted firmly to the floor. The 
    simulation of movement is generated by moving the whole floor on 
    pistons - tilting front to back, side to side, or lifting and 
    dropping. My 6 yr old daughter, who won't go back onto Big Thunder 
    after only one ride, had me literally running from exit to 
    entrance one evening. We got in about 5 trips before they closed 
    down for the night, and she enjoyed every one! A heavily built 
    (fat!) friend who came on with us the first time, wouldn't go on 
    again because he felt a lot of strain on his back.
    
    	    IMO Star Tours is better, because the film ties in better 
    with the motion, and if you get dizzy with CircleVision, you will 
    certainly feel it on Star Tours!
    
    	    Yes, there is certainly some quite violent motion, but I 
    agree with Ed, the notices are either hype, or Disney being 
    extra-cautious. In all the times we rode it, we didn't hear or see 
    anybody who wanted it stopped mid-ride, and the worst reactions 
    were stiff arms and shoulder from holding on too tightly!
    
    	    Although you may not want to rush round to do it again, I 
    don't think anyone will suffer anything more than a few seconds of 
    dizziness or disorientation. If you have any doubts though, why 
    not send in an advance scout who knows the likes/dislikes and 
    physical limitations of your group.
    
    Mike in Warrington (Who will also come along if Ed is busy!)

    The motion on the simulators is worst at the extreme corners, if 
    you can manoeuvre (maneuver for you colonials 8->) the weaker 
    members of your party to the middle seats of the middle rows, it 
    will reduce the effect somewhat.
    
    Go for it!
    
    Mike in Warrington.

    The hardware is identical but are the movements identical?
    
    I've heard that Star Tours is a less queasy ride than Body Wars.
    
    Mike

�   The hardware is identical but are the movements identical?

    No.  The same type of simulator is used in both rides, but the film and
    the program that controls the movement of the "vehicle" are different.

    Somewhere I think I read that the capacity of each simulator is 40
    people.

    Body Wars only lasts about four minutes, so even those prone to motion
    sickness shouldn't have too much trouble.

    Our impressions were that the rides are significantly different in 
    programming. Body Wars is more abrupt and rough - turbulence in 
    veins, breaking through artery walls etc., Star Tours is slower 
    and smoother - swooping around planets etc. However, IMO, the 
    relationship to the films could make you more queasy on ST, with 
    the long dives etc. It's similar to the effect on a roller 
    coaster, when dropping from the highest peak, as against being 
    jolted around on bumper cars.
    
    
    Mike in Warrington

    Well, I've got to say that I hated Star Tours.  The swoops and dives do 
    make you feel funny.  Your head spins and your tummy flips over.  It's
    easy to say to yourself that it's not really off the ground, and there's 
    nothing really to be afraid of, but when you're on it and experiencing 
    all those weird things it's a different story.
    
    Also, the sharp movements do make your back ache when you get off.
    
    Having said that, don't let me put you off.   There seems to be more 
    people who got on with Star Tours and Body Wars, than didn't.
    
    Karen 
    

    Guess I'm gonna have to make some decisions when I get down there in a
    few weeks........the kinda decisions I like to make.
    
    Mike_who_leaves_in_400_hours
    

    Hi all,
    
    Are there any age/height restrictions for B W or S T?
    
    We are taking a two year old in August.
    
    Thanks
    
    John

    I can't remember if there is an age or height restriction for either
    ride, but S T and possibly B W have something they call a "baby check"
    (I think). They way it works is if two parents both want to ride, but
    don't want to take the child on the ride, they go all the way up to the
    entrance of the ride together, then one parent stays outside while the
    first parent rides. Then the first parent comes back out the entrance,
    gets the child, and waits while the other parent rides. They put the
    second parent right at the front of the next group to ride. Then you
    all leave together. I thought it was a really good idea and could be
    used on a lot of the "scarier" rides. My friend's two youngest children
    got all the way to the loading area of Space Mountain and then
    chicken-out. So dad had to take them out and get in line all the way at
    the end again. 
    
    I bet if you asked at the bigger rides if they would do this "baby
    check" plan, they'd all agree. I only heard it actually mentioned at 
    S T.
    
    Debbie
    

    RE:.94
    
       This past November my two year old son and pregnant wife were not
    allowed on Body Wars................

    re: .95 .96
    
    Thanks for the info.
    
    John

RE the motion sickness question:  I am somewhat susceptible to it, but I had a
blast on Star Tours at Disneyland!  I was much more affected by Space Mountain
(my least favorite Disney ride).

I was sitting more or less in the middle at Star Tours, so maybe that had 
something to do with it.  I haven't been on Body Wars (yet!), but I won't have 
any qualms about doing it (whenever I get the chance :-) ).

  
						-- Nina

    I've only been on Star Tours at Disneyland also so no comparison,
    but I was allowed to take my two year old son on ok. 
    
    Richard CSC UK Basingstoke.                                        
    
    

    The major difference I found is the Star Wars ride has much less 
    side-to-side motion and Body Wars had a lot of this which made the ride
    much less enjoyable than the Star war ride.

    FWIW, my daughter and I both felt queasy after riding Body Wars - I
    don't think I'd do it again.  I was in the upper left (rear) corner
    seat, so that might have had something to do with it.  My wife and 2
    boys, on the other hand, loved it.
    
    Star Tours was great - movement was smoother, and seemed much more
    realistic to me.  Plus the robot driver is funny - I laughed all the
    way through the ride.  Body Wars just felt like more of a shake-em-up
    machine.
    
    If in doubt, try it out anyway.  It's a short ride (I remember thinking, 
    "I wish this thing would end pretty soon", and then it did.)

    I have ridden Body Wars once and Star Tours twice.  My first
    ride was on Body Wars in the back row.  I came out feeling
    slightly queasy - I was glad the ride ended when it did.  My
    second (Star Tours) and third (Body Wars) rides were in the
    middle rows and caused no problems.
    
    To give you an idea of what the ride is like -- they had a
    similar type of ride at Chuck E. Cheese's in Manchester, NH
    a few years ago (may still be there) where you got to "ride"
    a rollercoaster (The Beast from King's Dominion?).  Star Tours
    and Body Wars are like that but much more refined.  If you
    don't know what I'm talking about, imagine watching the scenes
    in "Star Wars" where they blow up the Death Star.  Remember
    how the X-wing fighters flew into the ridge of the Death Star
    and did some pretty amazing flying?  Well, that's the type of
    stuff you'll be doing.  You will sense forward motion, steep
    drops, banked turns, etc.   The motion in Body Wars is the
    same except it takes place in the blood stream.  Being in the
    blood stream means you feel each heartbeat which is where the
    turbulence comes in.  I don't want to give too many details but
    I do remember the turbulence being more noticeable when you
    cross various barriers (such as entering a capillary) and when
    your vehicle's motion is driven by the blood circulating.
    
    My opinion is, try Star Tours first then Body Wars if you feel
    up to it.  You may also want to avoid sitting in the back row.
    The seats in the back row are higher so your feet can't touch
    the floor which means you get thrown around more.  If you like
    roller coasters, volunteer for the back row! and leave the
    middle/front seats for us chickens.
    
    As for small children, the don't recommend letting children
    under age 3 ride on either Body Wars or Star Tours.  I asked why
    and was told that there is a muscle in their back that isn't
    fully developed until then and may be injured.  We were also
    warned that they couldn't (wouldn't) stop the ride so if Nicole
    got scared, we would be stuck.  We opted to do a baby switch on
    both rides.  Nicole (2 1/2) was very frightened by the drops on
    Pirates of the Caribbean and the Norway ride so we figured she
    would be frightened by the simulators.  If she hadn't been afraid,
    I would have brought her on Star Tours but not Body Wars.
    
    I hope this helps.

    I rode "Body Wars" and spent most of the time looking away from the
    screen and toward the ceiling. The effect of the motion and 
    the visual was overwhelming. Give me a roller coaster over Body
    Wars anytime.
    
    Kath

    
      For those who've been in both rides, Is it recommended for someone
    who have back problem ? You know, you lift small object the wrong way
    you get a snap on your back.
    These rides, do they put a lot of strain on your back ?
    
      ricardo

    After riding Star Tours my back ached for the rest of the day, and the
    following day, too.  
    
    Hope this helps you decide!
    
    Karen
         

    	RE:  -.104
    
    		I'd reccommend skipping Body Warrs if you have  a very
    sensitive back.  It has some quick "snappy" motions to it that might
    cause you some problems.  Star Tours is a little smoother but not by
    much.
    
    	My wife and I really enjoyed these rides, even though she can get a
    tinge of motion sickness she did well in those rides.  I would guess
    she was saying, as someone else was, I wish this would hurry up and end
    and it did!
    
    	I like them becasue theya re a step above the old Omnitheater films
    that used to give you that motion sensation, but without any
    coordinated movement of the ground underneath you.  You remember the
    ones where you watched a roller coaster from the the front seat being
    filmed and when it went around a corner if you looked at everyone
    watching they would be leaning into the turn!!!
    
    
    	I would say that if you can take thunder mountain, you can handle
    these rides.....

    Having done both star tours and body wars (multiple times, never both
    on the same day), I don't remember much difference (except the lines
    were longer in BW). I will go so far as to claim there is a section of
    tape that is the same except for the colorization. In BW you fly
    through a blood vessel (in red) but in ST you fly through a tunnel in
    an asteroid (in B&W). Same footage, same simulator motion. 

    mike

    RE:  .79  about good viewing positions for Illuminations
    
>>  They rope off an area in front of the lagoon where you must sit the entire 
>>  show.  I arrived too late to sit there, but I stood behind and had a good 
>>  view.
    
    How soon before the show starts should I plan to arrive to get a decent
    position in this roped off area?  This seems to be the best spot for
    viewing the show, AND for making a quick getaway!!!
    
    Thanks

RE: .-1

I do not know for sure, but I would guess that an hour would be more than
enough.  I never waited more than 20 minutes anywhere, but then again, I was
never actually in the roped off area.

/Jim Pappas

    I was in this roped off area 90 minutes before the show and found it
    filling up quickly.
    
    I don't particularly think that this is that great a spot to watch
    Illuminations but I guess you'd have to judge that for yourself.
    
    Mike

    RE: .111
    
    Did you have the opportunity to view it from another spot?  What would
    you recommend?
    
    David

        We have never watched from within the roped off area (where
        you must sit), but we have watched it from behind the ropes.

        Also, we have watched Illuminations from just about every
        other place in World Showcase.  My wife and I eat at one of
        the EPCOT full service restaurants just about every night
        there and we usually will watch illuminations from in front of
        whatever country we visit that night.  We definitely feel that
        the "front" of World Showcase is the best. See note 11.79 for
        more info.

        /Jim Pappas
    

    I watched Illuminations (actually, at that time it was called
    Laserphonic Fantasy) from the roped off area back before they
    roped it off.  That is definitely the best view of the water
    portion of the show.  I imagine you get a good view of the
    countries portion of the show from there too although you might
    have some obstructions for the Mexico and/or Canada portions.
    I'm convinced that they planned the show so that each view has
    some obstructions to guarantee repeat visits.
    
    If you plan on taping, there is a spot just a little to the
    left (toward Mexico) that seemed to have a good view plus a
    stone wall (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) that would serve
    as a good tripod.  We sat between Mexico and China to tape and
    got bad results.  First, we were downwind so the smoke from the
    fireworks blocked the view.  Second, we were looking at the
    fountains from an angle so the laser part didn't come out well.

    Just a little beyond Mexico is a good spot. The roped off area is fine
    if you get there early but remember...YOU MUST SIT DOWN.
    
    You can do well in Canada but as Ruth said you may have to be careful
    that you avoid some areas which have some obstruction.
    
    Mike

    
    
    I got this info from usenet if anybody likes to read this kind
    of info I'll post it, if not... oh well I'll read it...
    
    
                       -=-=-R~C-=-=-
    
Article 489 of rec.arts.disney:
From: [email protected]

    
The current fireworks show at EPCOT is called IllumiNations, and is the third
generation show at the park.  The first show was called "A New World Fantasy",
and was pretty much limited to fountain and lighting effects.  Some
pyrotechincs were included at the end.  This show was replaced by Laserphonic
Fantasy, which included the addition of a 30 foot blue sphere.  The surface of
the sphere is covered with tens of thousands of fiber optic "pores" that allow
images to be displayed.  The sphere also contains several lasers which can
project images into the "water screens."  (More later.)  The sphere also
contains concealed fog jets that can cover it with fog in seconds with the
help of some liquid nitrogen.

Surrounding the sphere, or "laser barge", are four firework/fountain barges. 
These barges were oringally used in A New World Fantasy and contain water jets,
pyrotechnics, and colored lights.  Large projection screens were replaced by
two large poles which sprinkle water into a vertical sheet.  The water sheet
is used as a screen for projecting images from the laser barge.

There are three lasers on land.  One is located on the southwest corner of
Mexico on the roof.  The second is located on the top floor of Canada's replica
of the Chateau de Frontenac.  The third is located in the center window of
the third floor of the American Adventure.  All three of these lasers are
powerful argon lasers which emit cyan light. This light can be split into
blue or green beams.  The projection of the laser is accomplished by a
"scanner", a high-speed computer-controlled device that can move the beams
hundreds of times per second.  Mirrors, located on top of other World
Showcase pavillions reflect the lasers, to give the appearance that they
oringate from many different buildings.

Twelve high powered colored spotlights are also located on the roofs of every
country and Communicore.  These lights are gimbal mounted and are under
computer control.  

The show is controlled by several small computers, but show cueing and 
synchonization is handled by EPCOT Center's main computer room.  Announcements
are made automatically before the show and lights are dimmed accordingly.

Illuminations is very similar to Laserphonic Fantasy but involves the addition
of edge lighting effects for every country.  Also firework canons located
at water level around the lagoon shoot flameballs up and over the center
of World Showcase (an incredible effect.)

Where do they store they barges during the day??? Behind China.  A canal exists
right next to the China pavillion that leads to a hidden docking/storage area 
for the barges.  The bridge over the canal is a fully functional drawbridge
and oftens stops guests several times for a few minutes in the late afternoon
when the barges are moved.  When deployed, the laser barge is secured to a 
special low-profile dock in the middle of the lagoon which supplies high
voltage and chilled water for its lasers.

Many nights after the park closes, show producers often tinker with different
aspects of the show.  It is not uncommon to see a slightly different show on
two consecutive nights.  The soundtrack remains the same, but it's very likely
to detect a subtle change in lighting, laser, or fireworks effects.

IllumiNations is stongly themed in that it showcases every country.
Laserphonic Fantasy was much more abstract.  In my opinion, Laserphonic Fantasy
was better.  It seems designers are getting carried away with all of these
improvements.  Blinking the edge lighting on all of the World Showcase 
pavillions is overkill.  Laserphonic Fantasy was simple, elegant, and 
extraordinary.  Illuminations seems to be the result of some bored show 
designers.  

I say these things only after seeing both shows several dozen times each.  
I think both shows are incredible, but to me, Laserphonic Fantasy was the
best show to date.  I also miss William Pierce, the Laserphonic Fantasy 
announcer.  (Pierce was famous for his announcing of the Boston Pops
Orchestra.)  I'm sure Disney would have used him again, but I understand
he has passed away.  The one new feature that really impresses me is the
firework launch from around the lake that I mentioned earlier.  This is 
a really "cool" effect.  Hats off to whoever came up with this one.

The music for each is composed of several classical pieces.  Disney has yet
to release either soundtrack.

Still want more info?  Inquire at EPCOT outreach in Communicore West.  They
will be happy to give you brief techincal documentation and a music list.



					Bud Pinder
					University of Miami

					Graduate student and Disney enthusiast!

    

    Caution, this is a non-Disney trip report of sorts.
    
    This note  is  in  relation  to  the  ongoing  debate  as  to  which is
    better/rougher etc concerning Star Tours and Body Wars (of which I have
    yet to  experience).    I know there'll be some Disney purest out there
    that asked why  is  this  here (myself included ;^)), but I didn't feel
    like starting a new  topic and I felt it kinda belonged here since this
    is were the discussion is taken place.
    
    I know your probably saying  to  yourself  enough  allready  get to the
    point, what the hell is this  guy  talkinig  about.  Well you see (As I
    keep the suspense up) I just came  back  from  a wonderfull and I might
    add deserved 2 week vacation, the only bad  part  was that it wasn't at
    that magical place.  During my vacation I spent  a  week in Virginia in
    which  I  had  the  pleasure  to  visit Busch Garderns Old  Country  in
    Williamburg Virginia.
    
    What does a discussion of Busch Gardens has to do with Disney you might
    ask?
    
    Well let me tell you, Disney  is  not  the  only  place  with  the Star
    Tours/Body Wars flight simulator technology type of ride you see.

    Since June of this  year  Busch  Gardens  has  their  new  ride  called
    QUESTOR, which is based on  the  technology  that  made Star Tours/Body
    Wars famous to you Disney Freaks.  Questor is a 4 minute ride that take
    you on a journey though a  mystical  land  in  search of a rare crystal
    called  Fribilliumn  which is used to power  the  Questor  Craft,  your
    guide/pilot is a Mystical Troll looking character whose  name escape me
    at  moment.   Your craft flys though the air,  drills  itself  into  an
    icepack, swims under water and so on.
    
    This  ride  was  fantastic, I  can't  wait  to  experience  the  Disney
    versions.    I  had the opportunity to ride it twice,  once  front  row
    center and second, off to the center in the last row.   Toward the back
    you  get  a  much  better and I might add rougher ride for  you  motion
    sickness  types.  When in the fron row I had a hard time  focussing  my
    eyes  to  the  movie, this row is just to close to the screen, and  the
    movements  though large as that in the back, you had a tendency to miss
    out on  the  actio  so to speak, since you could focus on the screen as
    well as watch the 2 smaller screens (one on each side) that you can see
    you pilot do it's  things.  However from the middle to the back you had
    a much better view of  the  screen  plus  watching all those peoplke in
    front of you bounce around. 
    
    Questor like Star Tours and Body Wars (based on what I read here in the
    file) is comprised of  a  common pre-show area where you are introduced
    to the charactors of the  show  and  the basic story outline.  The is a
    door on each side in which  depending on the time you enter pre-staging
    for one of the two flight similators (for a lack of a better name).  In
    the pre-staging area you are asked to stand on a light, which reperents
    a seat in a given row, facing the doors  the  left is the front and the
    right is the back in both pre-staging areas.  Once everyone is standing
    on a light you listean to a little note from a  cast member (note I saw
    a  few  Cast  Member  only  sign in Busch Gardens, apparently they have
    taken a few other ideas from Disney) you enter the ride, and your off.
    
    So for  any  of you Disney adics out htere who want to see what all the
    hype is about Star Tours and Body Wars but can't quite come up with the
    $$'s to visit your  favorite  Magical  place  right  now  but live near
    Williamsburg Virginia, riding Questor at  Busch  Gardens  is one way to
    satify your anticipation
    
    Claude
    
    
    

    Claude,
    
    My kids preferred Star Tours to Body Wars 6 to 1 (make that 6 rides to
    1). They said that Star Tours was more fun and more exciting than Body
    Wars. They said that Star Tours made you feel like you were flying and
    Body Wars was a much more bumby ride and less thrilling.
    
    I went on Star Tours about 4 times and opted to pass on Body Wars (it
    could have been the 90 minute wait that helped me in that decision).
    
    Mike

I prefer Star Tours over Body Wars by far.  I found that Body Wars did not 
induce the feeling of motion as well, becuase it had a poor frame of reference.
We're not familiar with the setting inside the body, and the space seems
confining.  Star Tours is a more familiar setting, so we are dragged in
to the fantasy more readily, and it has the appearance of wide open
spaces so a supposed 6 Km "fall" to the death star seems oh so far...so fast.

Bill

    Where IS Star Tours??  I'm assuming that Body Wars is in Epcot, but
    Where is Star tours located and WHAT is it? I haven't heard of this one
    up until now.
    
    Mel :^)

    mel,
    
    star tours is at MGM. the best way i can describe it is that it is a
    thrill ride in a flight simulator.
    
    john

    Walk into MGM. Walk down Hollywood Blvd. and take your first left.
    Walk past Hollywood & Vine and Prime Time Cafe. You'll see The Indiana
    Jones Stunt Spectacular up and to the right. Walk past Indy and bear a
    bit to the left. You'll see the Warehouse Restaurant and to the right
    of that is Star Tours.
    
    Mike

    RE: .118 and .119
    
    I agree.  My nephew and I much preferred Star Tours to Body Wars (only
    5 to 1, though ;-).  And the line we had to wait in at EPCOT didn't
    seem worth it.  I kept thinking about all the things it was keeping me
    from (especially once the "ride" was over).
    
    On a positive note, however, I did like the FX when we entered the
    lungs!  That was fun.
    
    Susan (I'll get to finish my trip report one of these days!)

I preferred Star Tours to Body Wars; ST seemed to be less jerky. I must    
admit that, due to the motion, I had to close my eyes once to sort of    
reorient my inner self. 


Gavin

(A PS that those who've take the ride might appreciate: a flight I took two
weeks ago from Munich to Geneva through a storm was almost exactly like the
Body Wars ride, except that they wouldn't let us off after four minutes... Next
time round that ride's gonna seem like a piece of cake!  :-} )

    I know this seems like a weird question but...... I'll ask anyway.
    Does anyone know for sure or have ideas of how the water jumps across
    the path over behind journey into imagination?  Just wondering?????
    

    I guess I should have added to the previous note, how does the water
    stay together and not fall apart also?
    

    It's time for some basic physics! ;^}
    
    Try this : Go outside with your garden hose with a squeeze handle type
    spray attachment on the end, you know the kind you can squeeze and the
    water changes from off to wide spray and if you squeeze all the way it
    turns into a single strong stream.  Point the nozzle at about a 50 
    degree angle up into the air.  Now squeeze the handle intermittantly
    from off to strong stream and see what happens!
    
    			Have fun,
    
    			   Dr. Science
                                                                     
    "Remember, he knows more than you do, he's a Doctor, of SCIENCE!"
    
    :-)
    

    
     While visiting my brother in Florida, we decided to visit Epcot
    Center. It will be nice when they build the Wescot Center out here in
    So Cal. I enjoyed Epcot...but the weather in Florida in July is a bit
    too much. Too hot, too humid for a wimp like me that loves a low
    humidity climate. Attendance according to one park person was off at
    least 50% and she was worried about getting laid-off. (who isn't these
    days?). Glad we made the stop. 
    
    Dave 

    How would WDW determine which cast members to let go? The attractions
    need to be worked. I figure the first people to go would be those who
    sell merchandise/food from the pushcarts.
    
    A 50% drop in attendance is pretty frightening...but the entertainment
    dollar usually suffers during a recession.
    
    Mike

Does anyone know if Illuminations plays every night? What about 
off season? A friend and I are planning on going to DisneyWorld
the first week of December but wanted to time the visit to EPCOT
to see Illuminations.

I called the general Walt DisneyWorld information number but the
person I spoke with had no clue. She wasn't very helpful. I asked
about general off season hours for all three parks (and Typhoon Lagoon),
no idea. I asked about Illuminations, the Fantasy in the Sky Fireworks
at the MK, AND the fireworks display at the Disney/MGM studios and
again, no clue...She told me to call back in November!

:-) I wanna know now! Or at least geta general idea - even if it's 
what happened last year.

Thanks 
Todd///

    Rep to <<< Note 11.131 by ALLVAX::STAATS "1-800" >>>

>Does anyone know if Illuminations plays every night? What about 
>off season? 
    
    Todd,
    
    Last  I  knew,  Illuminations  would  run  every  Sunday  night  during
    off-season, the reason the  operator told you to call November, is they
    probably don't have the hours of operation published yet for December.
    
    Claude

Thanks Claude

I knew I was OVERANXIOUS about finding out all the who's what's etc...it's
been a long time (1985), since I've had my Disney fix and I'm getting
a little jumpy :-) I'll calm down and then call back in a couple of 
months!

Todd///

    re: .131 Illuminations?
    
    Todd,
    I've posted last year's hours for December in note 98.10.
    Ruth

Ruth,

I just saw 98.10.  Thanks, it gives me a better idea on how to plan my 
week. 

I'm staying in the tower at the Contemporary for part of the week!! 

Todd///

    Todd,
    
    Keep in mind that weekends offer more than weekdays during the
    non-Summer months.
    
    Mike

    Todd,
    
    I'd appreciate it if you'd post any information you get about
    operating hours in note 98.  You'll probably want to ask which
    (if any) attractions won't be operating at that time too (I think
    that info gets posted in note 206).  I'd like this info because
    we're planning to be there for the first TWO weeks of December.
    
    Thanks,
    Ruth

    I was at WDW in May (my 8th trip (:>) and I was told that Illuminations
    was being shown at the World's Fair and wouldn't be available in WDW
    after this year ('91)!  I had seen it two or three times before but,
    after hearing that, I made it a point to see it again.  It's definitely
    worth the effort!

    The "Person of the Century" survey which began in Epcot Center now has
    branched out to DL, The Euro Disney Resort in France, and in Tokyo
    Disneyland. The opinion poll is asking for the person who has had the
    greatest impact on the 20th century.
    
    Here are the top candidates:
    
    Neil Armstrong	Thomas Edison		Martin Luther King, Jr.
    Lucille Ball	Albert Einstein		Ronald Reagan
    The Beatles		Henry Ford		Franklin D. Roosevelt
    George Bush		Mohandas Ghandi		"Babe" Ruth
    Winston Churchill	Mikhail Gorbachev	Jonas Salk
    Bill Cosby		Bobe Hope		Margaret Thatcher
    Marie Curie		Michael Jackson		Mother Theresa
    Walt Disney		John F. Kennedy		The Wright Brothers
    
    I think I voted for Edison, Einstein, King, Ford, Walt, Kennedy, and
    Ruth.
    
    

    George Bush?  You gotta be kiddin?
    
    Kathy_who_is_7_months_away!
    

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet
    
    During the Disney Channel's WDW 20th Anniversary special, they spent a
    very brief period of time discussing future attractions.  One they did
    mention was a new thrill for EPCOT as part of the Japanese pavilion. 
    It seemed to be a Space Mountain-like attraction except you're riding
    through/around Mount Fuji.
    
    Anyone have any more details on this??  Are we to assume that this is a
    replacement for the Matterhorn ride that would have been part of a
    yet-to-be-built Swiss pavilion??
    
    - Skip

The exit area at the Walt Disney Story at the Magic Kingdom is devoted to 
showing off the futures of the three Disney Parks. They had a model and 
artist renditions of DiscoverLand as well as attractions at EPCOT and the Magic
Kingdom.

There were sketches of the Mt Fuji Ride for the Japan pavillion, though
I got the impression it was a toboggan ride, not a rollercoaster. A roller
coaster would make more sense since there is also suppose to be a Switzerland
Pavillion complete with Matterhorn ride. So looks like Epcot will have two
mountains with rollercoaster/toboggans through them! Also, there where sketches
for a ginza district for Japan, lots of Neon and electronics :-)

todd///

    Last summer when we stayed at the Y&BC, we would walk into the
    International Gateway entrance to Epcot.  One disadvantage of this
    entrance is that it opens at 9:00, even if the main entrance opens
    earlier.  Last summer they were opening the main gate at 8:30, with
    just Spaceship Earth being open.  At 9:00, they would open the rest of
    the park, and the International Gateway.

    Jim,
    
    Is it faster getting to, let's say AA that way than it is to take the
    boat across the Lagoon?
    
    Mike

    Yes,  It is faster to reach just about any World Showcase attraction
    first thing in the morning by using the International Gateway entrance. 
    However, I think it is better to visit Future World attractions first,
    while there are no crowds, then move the World Showcase after the
    crowds start forming (1-2 hours after opening) and then return to
    Future World later, after the crowds start moving into World Showcase. 
    I think that American Adventure (AA) is about the worst attraction to
    see first, because you can always get into the next show, regardless of
    the time of day, because the AA's capacity is so large.  I like to get
    the real bottlenecks out of the way first thing in the morning (like
    Body Wars) before the crowds arrive.

RE:  11.141 and 11.142

Being the Disney-aholic that I am, I read part the annual report (not the
fiscal stuff just the articles on what's happening and planned).  Most 
everything I already knew about.

The annual report mentioned that there were plans to build either a Matterhorn
ride OR a Mt. Fuji ride.  Time will tell whether we get one or two rides.
     --

Marilyn

      Isn't the Mt Fuji ride being built in the Tokyo Disney?  I don't
    think it's going to be part of EPCOT.
    
    Steve

>      Isn't the Mt Fuji ride being built in the Tokyo Disney?  I don't
>    think it's going to be part of EPCOT.

	I don't know for sure, but I highly doubt that we will have
	Mt. Fuji ride in Tokyo Disneyland in the near future.

	They have a major construction going on in TDL when I last
	was there two weeks ago, but the most featured attraction 
	being built is Splash Mountain.

	Disney related information (especially things coming up) is very 
	limited in Japan, so this note is my major news source of TDL 
	even I live 30 min. drive away from them.

	Anyway, I will keep my eyes on it.


	Minako Arakawa  Base Appli. EIC / DEC-Japan 

Copyright � 1992 Dow Jones & Co. from Wall Street Journal
Disney, Nestle Form Strategic Alliance >DIS


  BURBANK, Calif. -DJ- Walt Disney Co. (DIS) and Nestle S.A.'s (Z.NES) Nestle 
USA Inc. said they have entered a new multidivisional strategic alliance, 
involving licensing, joint marketing, tie-in promotions and U.S. theme park 
participation.

  In a press release, the companies said that when the long-term agreement 
takes effect on Jan. 1, 1993, Nestle will become the sponsor of the Land 
pavilion at Epcot Center, as well as the sponsor of many different locations 
at Disneyland Park and Walt Disney World Resort.

  The companies said this agreement marks the latest development in an 
expanding international partnership between Nestle and Disney.  Nestle S.A. is 
one of 12 founding sponsors at EuroDisneyland and a major Disney licensee in 
Europe.

  12:14 PM

                           -0-

  A spokesman for Kraft General Foods, a unit of Philip Morris Cos., said the 
company chose not to renew its agreement after deciding it wanted to "redirect 
the (financial) resources elsewhere." He wouldn't comment further.

    re: .150
    
�  In a press release, the companies said that when the long-term agreement 
�takes effect on Jan. 1, 1993, Nestle will become the sponsor of the Land 
�pavilion at Epcot Center, 
    
    I hope this won't have a serious effect on the Kitchen Kabaret, one of
    my favorites.
    

    Watch for the band members to be repainted to look less like Kraft
    products.  The greeter's spiel will change as well, but the attraction
    should remain open.  Frito Lay used to sponsor the Country bears.  The
    corporate plugs are gone but the show goes on.
    
    	Dave

    I have a feeling that Image Works, upstairs from Journey into
    Imagination, is not enjoying good crowds. The recent AP newsletter is
    pushing Image Works...hope this means they are looking to update this
    area and not eliminate it.
    
    Mike

    Re.-1
    
      Mike,
           I hope they are not planning to eliminate imageworks.  I have 
      always enjoyed it.  It does suffer from the same problems as the 
      communicore buildings in that you have to wait your turn in order to
      use most of the displays.  People seem to blow right on through
      rather than waiting and trying out some of the "toys".  
      Disney does want the attractions that they spend upkeep money on to
      attract guests in order to justify the maint cost so you never know,
      they could put Imageworks on the chopping block in the future.
    
    
        -Rob
    

    Rob,
    
    I agree with you. Many first-timers go right on Imagination and blow by 
    the Image Works. I noticed last Summer that Image Works was far less 
    crowded than ever before.
    
    I always make it a point to stop in and conduct a few Electronic
    Philharmonic scores. It makes me feel like I'm in the 21st Century.
    
    Noone should pass up Image WOrks.
    
    Mike

    I agree with the last few (but haven't found Electronic Philharmonic
    nearly as much fun since they changed the logic in the controls:
    modulating volume as a function of frequency of beam interruption vs
    how high you raise your hands).
    
    tom
    

    Can anyone who's recently visited EPCOT comment on the upgrades
    supposedly done to the American Adventure??  It was closed for re-hab a
    couple of months ago and I thought they were supposed to update the
    Audio-Animatronic figures as well as make some changes to the overall
    presentation.
    
    Any comments??
    
    - Skip

>�  In a press release, the companies said that when the long-term agreement 
>�takes effect on Jan. 1, 1993, Nestle will become the sponsor of the Land 
>�pavilion at Epcot Center, 
    
>    I hope this won't have a serious effect on the Kitchen Kabaret, one of
>    my favorites.
    
Have any recent visitors checked out the Kitchen Kabaret?  Has it changed
much since Nestle took over The Land?

                                            Tracy

We got to the pre-show area but my daughter decided she didn't want to wait.

The pre-show area seemed to be unchanged.

We went three years ago and last week and this is still the same show to my
recollection.

bl

    I pulled the following over from the rec.arts.disney newsgroup.  It
    details some of the recent changes to the American Adventure show in
    EPCOT.  
    
    - Skip
    
Article 18450 of rec.arts.disney:
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Update to the American Adventure
Date: Thu, 27 May 93 18:57:29 GMT-0:04
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

During my visit to WDW last week, I stopped into the see the 'new and improved'
version of the American Adventure. I was told that there was some changes to
the AA's and the sequence where there are familar faces on the screen. I found
out later that this is refered to as the "Golden Dream" sequence.

   The AA's that were changed were Susan B. Anthony, Will Rodgers (sp?) and the
final appearance of Ben Franklin and Mark Twain (when they are on the torch of
the Statue of Liberty. In this scene Ben and Mark shake hands and wave good-bye
at the end. In all these AA's are very realistic and I was amazed at the
difference. I was also told that all of the AA's were reprogrammed.

   In the Golden Dream sequence I was looking for the changes and they did not
simply make additions, they completly changed this sequence. I looked for
familar faces and I did not find John (The Duke) Wayne. There were still a lot
of faces I recognized though but I didn't know who they all were but I wanted
to find out.

   I went to EPCOT Center outreach and they were more than happy to print out a
list for me. Now what kind of person would I be if I didn't share this info
with everyone? No need to find out as the complete list is included.

   

			   IMAGES PRESENTED IN
			"GLODEN DREAM" SEQUENCE OF
			  THE AMERICAN ADVENTURE


   Bald eagle I
   U.S. marines raising flagpole with American flag in Iwo Jima
   People holding WAR OVER sign
   Sailor kissing
   Norman Rockwell self-portrait
   Leonard Bernstein
   Judy Garland
   General Douglas MacArthur
   Bob Hope in Korea
   Mary Martin
   Three American flags
   Jasper Johns at chalkboard
   President Dwight (Ike) and Mamie Eisenhower
   Marlon Brando
   Elenor Roosevelt
   Charles (Chuck) Yeager with Bell X-1 rocket airplane
   Marilyn Monroe
   Jackie Robinson close-up
   Jackie Robinson long shot
   Babe Dedrickson
   Family watching Jonny Carson on television
   Family watching Lucille Ball on television
   Walt Disney
   Tinkerbell
   Albert Einstein
   Frank Lloyd Wright with Guggenheim Museum model
   Polio poster child with crutches
   Dr. Jonas Salk giving child a polio vaccination
   Frank Sinatra
   Louis (Sctchmo) Armstrong
   Ella Fitzgerald
   Elvis Presley
   President John F. Kennedy delivering speech
   President John F. Kennedy funeral procession
   John Kennedy Jr.'s final salute
   HUMAN DIGNITY signs
   Hosed protesters
   Soldier at Cleveland riots
   Martin Luther King, Jr. delivering speech
   "Eagle" lunar lander heading towards the moon
   Earthrise I
   Earthrise II
   First steps on the moon
   Walter Cronkite
   New York Times headline "MAN ON THE MOON"
   Houston Mission Control Room celebration
   Astronaut with American flag on moon's surface
   Bald eagle II
   Iron Eyes Cody
   Smokestacks
   Ecology protesters
   Cesar Chavez
   Gloria Steinem
   FEMALE LIBERATION banner
   Billie Jean King tennis serve
   Peace-sign flag/Woodstock
   Bob Dylan
   Jim Henson
   Alex Haley
   Slave Photo
   Machine gun
   Napalm bomb explosion
   U.S. helicopter taking off in Vietnam
   Vietnam medivac
   Man crying
   Vietnam Memorial Wall
   USA rocket
   Challenger astronauts
   Spacewalk
   Berlin wall falling down
   President Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev
   Ryan White
   STOP AIDS sign
   Rock Hudson and Elizabeth Taylor
   U.S. hockey team victory (1980 Olympics)
   Mary Lou Reton
   Carl Lewis
   Kristi Yamaguchi
   Earvin (Magic) Johnson
   Bald Eagle III
   Fireworks (various)
   Statue of Liberty

    Now through August 13, 1993 you can see such stars as Carol Lawrence,
    Marvin Hamlisch, Theodore Bikel, Carol Channing, and Howard Keel
    perform with the All-American College Orchestra at American Gardens
    Theatre Stage.
    
    this is the official kickoff of "Celebrate Broadway:100 Years in Times
    Square," a year-long festival of special events being staged in New
    York and around the country.
    
    Mike

    It seems as if EPCOT has become "The Forgotten Theme Park." I guess
    that Russian Pavillion may never see the light of Florida sunshine.
    
    The only new developments that I recall are still in planning (or even
    production) is a replacement for EO and a Swiss or Scandanavian Pavillion.
    
    Does anyone else know of anything else?
    
    Mike

    Does anyone know if you can only use the International Gateway if
    you're a resort guest??  Or is it open to the general public??
    
    The reason I ask is that I'd like to check out the Yacht and Beach
    Clubs on our next trip and thought a visit to Beaches and Cream would
    be a nice break from EPCOT during one afternoon.  But it would only
    make sense if you could use the International Gateway; hence the
    question...
    
    Also, when I was last down in WDW in '90, there was no security at the
    Swan and Dolphin to prevent you from parking there and checking out
    those hotels.  So I'm wondering if it's possible to park at any one of
    the EPCOT hotels and enter via the International Gateway...  This would
    be a mighty convenient alternative to battling the crowds after
    Illuminations.  Anyone know if this is possible??
    
    Just curious...
    - Skip

    About a year ago I did just that.  I packed at Swan, looked around,
    then used the international Gateway with my AP and had no problem.John

They don't care, no resort id needed for the international gateway,
just a valid Epcot pass.

	Dave

>    Does anyone know if you can only use the International Gateway if
>    you're a resort guest??  Or is it open to the general public??

Definitely open. You can exit/enter at will, if accompanied by a valid
passport.  I checked out all the hotels the first year I was there and
the EPCOT resorts were done.  A side trip to BEACHES & CREAM can be a
welcome afternoon break!    
    
>    those hotels.  So I'm wondering if it's possible to park at any one of
>    the EPCOT hotels and enter via the International Gateway...  This would
    
I have never encountered resistance to parking at the SWAN, DOLPHIN, YACHT,
or BEACH CLUB resorts.  In fact, the Beach Club is the closest and it's
quite a long walk from all the others.  If you try to leave via Int'l Gate
after IllumiNations, be aware that it can be difficult to fight the tide
of people heading for the main entrance unless you're very near the Int'l
Gateway.

Bill

    We did the Int'l Gateway routine during a visit in November.  It worked
    great!    We drove to the Beach club, parked, stolled the grounds, and
    then did the Gateway.
    
    Beaches & Cream is a nice sideline anytime day or nite!
    
    This is just one problem, however -- now the kids (me too for that
    matter) want to stay at the Y&B Club next trip instead of Port
    Orleans !!!
    
    Mike C
    

    re: Int'l Gateway
    
    Thanks for the info, all.  We'll definitely keep this in mind for our
    next visit.
    
    re: plans
    
    Mike S. had posted a query about planned changes for the EPCOT
    attractions and I stumbled across some information in rec.arts.disney
    the other day.  This info appeared in the Orlando Sentinel.
    
    Some of the changes in store for ECPOT include:
    
    	Spaceship Earth will undergo major changes and could be closed for
    	up to six months.  No indication as to when this will occur.

    	Captain EO will be replaced by a new film likely based on "Honey, I 	
    	Shrunk the Kids".  :-P

    	And Nestle has changes planned for the Land pavilion including new
    	footage for "Symbiosis", replacing the Kitchen Kabaret with something 	
    	called Food Rocks, redecoration of the Land Grille, and turning the 	
    	food court into an outdoor park (!!).  All this is scheduled to be 	
    	completed by June 1994.

    That was about it...

    As much as I'd like to see Captain EO replaced, I can't say I'm
    thrilled with a new 3-D movie based on an existing Disney flick.  It
    doesn't seem appropriate for EPCOT; it sounds more like something for
    MGM.  

    And Nestle certainly isn't wasting much time, but I'm real curious as
    to how they'd pull of converting the food court...

    - Skip

    Skip,
    
    It could be that MUPPETVISION 4D really shows the generation gap in 3D
    technology so EO goes. I sort of agree with you on the "Honey" thing
    but what the heck...I can live with it.
    
    Spaceship Earth...I think they will try to squeeze in more stuff and
    possible cut back on the size of each display.
    
    The Land...well Nestle's want to do their own thing and it's their
    money. Hope the Land Grille doesn't change much...it's one of my
    favorite places.
    
    All done by June 1994....yo Skip aren't you going in May of '94?
    
    Mike

    re: .170
    
    >>All done by June 1994....yo Skip aren't you going in May of '94?
    
    Yup, it seems to be my luck that things are being added/finished just
    *after* we go down.  But there's always the chance that there'll be
    "soft openings" and the like.  Besides, I think it's only the Land
    stuff that'll be done in June, though I hope Spaceship Earth won't be
    down for re-hab.
    
    - Skip

    On the FOX special two weeks ago there was mention of the 10th birthday
    celebration at EPCOT.  Has this happened, going to happen?  
    
    Thanks
    Frank

    EPCOT opened October 1, 1982. The birthday celebration was sort of part
    of the WDW 20th Anniversary and was celebrated with "Surprise in the
    Skies."
    
    Mike

    I'm looking for a quick crash course on Epcot.  What attractions/rides
    can you think of that would be exciting for kids aged 5 & 9.  Any help
    would be appreciated.
    
    					Steve

    Steve,
    
    EPCOT isn't usually a favorite with kids. However I think they'd like
    most of the Future World stuff, especially Imagination, Wonders of
    Life, and Living Seas. The Universe of Energy, Spaceship Earth, and
    Horizons may also be popular with them.
    
    World Showcase has maybe three attractions that the kids will enjoy.
    The Maelstrom (Norway), American Adventure, and maybe The River of Time
    (Mexico). The rest is iffy depending upon your kids.
    
    Put Image Works (Upstairs from Journey Into Imagination) on your list.
    
    Mike

    It has been a while since I went to EPCOT but something else you
    could try which they may like and I know I loved would be
    any of the 360 degree theatre shows. It is all vague to me but
    I seemed to remember Canada, China and France having them. It is
    really stunning for adults (in my opinion) and because of the
    360 degress affect and feeling like you are moving when not, the
    kids might like it, I do not know? If you had time try at least
    one. Since it was 10 years ago when I saw these there may be more
    or less now. They could very well be bored silly with them too.
    
    Maybe someone else has kids that went through these. The laser show
    at night would be great also, I assume they still have it.
    
    			harold
    

    When we were there this past May, my kids (8 year old twin daughters
    and a 5 year old son) loved EPCOT.  
    
    Their favorite things at EPCOT
    (in no particular order):  Cranium Command, Body Wars (but NOT the 5 year
    old!), Horizons, Journey Into Imagination, Captain EO, The Captain EO
    pre-show (capture a smile), the Image Works, Listen to The Land,
    Kitchen Kabaret, El Rio Del Tiempo, lunch inside at Mexico, Sensory
    Funhouse
    
    Their least favorite things at EPCOT
    (in no particular order):  Universe of Energy, Maelstrom (too short!),
    browsing through World Showcase.
    
    Cheers,
    Ken
    
    Universe of Energy

when we were in Florida last month our kids (aged 4 and 6) rated Epcot as their
favourite park. We enjoyed all the things mentioned in the previous note, plus
Living Seas and the evening fireworks. Another big plus was that Epcot was much
less crowded than the Magic Kingdom, and we didn't have to queue for any of the
attractions

	Ray

    We have a girl of 8 and a boy of 5. They loved EPCOT.
    
    The fireworks display came top of their list. But get there 45mins
    before the show to get a good view - otherwise your sholuder will ache
    lifting them up!
    
    Captain EO, and Imagination were loved by both.
    
    Cranium Command loved by Claire and confused Robert.
    Body Wars loved by Robert and like by Claire.
    
    The Energy tour was loved by Robert and liked by Claire.
    
    The Living Seas surprised them, and amused them for 15 minutes. I think
    if we hadn'r been to Sea World the previous day it would have had more
    impact!
    
    Land was closed when we went. 
    
    Both liked Spaceship Earth - we did this around 3pm and there was no
    queue.
    
    Cheers,
    Gary
    
    
    
    

    What might be a problem is the size. EPCOT is huge and If you don't
    tour what you what to see in some kind of geographical order you will
    probably be carrying the kids by the end (Or even middle) of the day.
    
    Oh, yeah. My daughter (12) LOVES EPCOT. She loves Science, so I guess
    that has something to do with it. They will probably like Future World
    much more than the world showcase. 

    There is a new show at EPCOT, called Splashtacular, and evidently it
    takes place at the main fountain, finally utilizing some of the planned
    technology of the fountain.  Last month the whole thing was boarded
    off, so I'm assuming that there are also some other changes.  If anyone
    sees it, tell us about it!
    
    Cheers,
    Ken
    

    you missed it on the Disney "Kids Day" show on Sunday evening....
    
    they did a whole musical number around the fountain doing it's
    splashtacular routines. 
    
    i'm sure it will be really cool in person.
    
    --bert
    

    Looks like a Building 19 version of "Fantasmic" and it appears that
    good viewing spots are few and far between.
    
    Mike

    
    I just got back a week ago and caught this display while on my way to
    Mexico for a good viewing spot for the Fireworks.  It was a great
    display.  Water shooting out at diff times and heights and sometimes
    with a popping sound.  It was dark which made it even nicer.  I am not
    sure how often its done though, but defintely something to see.  It was
    as unexpected pleasure for us.  

    Here are some bits 'n' pieces on Splashtacular:
        
     - The show features up to 60 performers, characters, and technicians.
     - The water sprays up to 150 feet high.
     - The show takes place on a specially constructed stage surrounding
       Epcot Center's fountains, with Spaceship Earth serving as a backdrop.
     - Epcot Center's fountains have been enhanced for the show.
     - Mickey, decked out in a tux, takes on the forces of good and evil.
     - The 20-minute show includes water, music, villians, and a
       kaleidoscope of color.
     - Minnie, Donald, Chip, Dale, Goofy, and Pluto create a symphony of
       colors.
     - Futuristic dancers appear on the stage.
     - An evil alien sorceress appears and conjures up an intergalactic
       nemesis - a monster that towers 4 � sories above the stage (20 feet
       higher than Communicore).
     - This "duo of darkness" steal Mickey's colors.
     - A battle takes place and hopefully good will triumph over evil with
       an eventual rainbow appearing.
     - Amazingly there will be up to five performances a day, five times a 
       week.
    
    It sounds like a taste of Fantasmic...much smaller in stature.
    
    Mike

    "The Magical World of Barbie" takes place at the America Gardens
    Theater in World Showcase. It features Barbie and her friends on an
    around-the-world journey.
    
    Life-size settings inspired by doll-size play sets transform before
    guests' eyes. A musical score and special effects transport guests'
    imaginations to the four corners of the world.
    
    The 18-member cast sings and dances during the 25-minute show.
    
    For more information on the show and show times, please call (407)
    824-4321.
    
    Mike

    This may have been mentioned elsewhere but in case some of you hadn't
    caught this "The American Adventure" in World Showcase has been updated
    to include historical figures from the 19th century.
    
    Also, the Susan B. Anthony, Mark Twain, Will Rogers, and Ben Franklin
    Audio-Animatrons have been replaced with the latest AA technology.
    
    I believe that Mark and Ben now shake hands while standing on Liberty's
    torch.
    
    A completely new filmed Golden Dreams final sequence has also been
    added.
    
    Mike

    
    In the Orlando Sentinel's Central Florida Business section today, 
    Dec 20th, there is a paragraph saying the Denmark will likely be the
    next country to joined the World Showcase.  Attractions President 
    Judson Green says Disney is close to signing a contract.
    
    No other details were mentioned in the article.
    
    Dan
                   

Hi Mike,

This just in from rec.arts.disney....

The transformation of Tomorrowland into Discoveryland is fully

    
    
    
    
    
This information is from Skip Williams:
    
    
Horizons:  Closed down for a re-design.  No word on when it'll be back.
    
The Land:  "Listen to the Land" replaced with "Living With the Land"
(the song is gone).  The Kitchen Kabaret is being replaced with Food
Rocks (scheduled to re-open in late March).

Spaceship Earth:  New finale due in late 94.

Imagination:  New 3-D film ("Honey, I Shrunk the Audience") due in
late 94.

    Well it's official. Walt Disney World announced last Friday that it was
    removing Captain EO from Epcot Center.
    
    I don't know if the 3D show is immediately being replaced (by that 3D
    "Honey I..." show) but I do know that EO is no longer there.
    
    Mike

    We all knew that Captain EO was going to be pulled and replaced, so
    it came as no suprise. What did suprise me was that Enertainment
    Tonight made such a tabloid scandal about it. They made it seem like
    it was all related to the lawsuit and payoffs that Michael Jackson
    had been dealing with. At the end of the 'news story' the ET reporter
    said 'oh and Captain Eo is being replaced by _Honey I shrunk the
    Audience_'.
    
    

    They cahnged the name of EPCOT to Epcot '94, to change very year. It is
    supposed to give it that Worlds Fair feel

    Captain EO is back up and running in EPCOT this week.
    
    Don't know why except that maybe this was done to help alleviate long
    lines resulting from huge April Vacation week crowds.
    
    Mike

    Well, EO was there and operational during the week of 4/3-10/94. 
    Unfortunately, we sat too close to really enjoy it like we did back in
    '92.
    
    -sandy
    

   Early Bird Specials from 4:30pm til 6 pm  -- offered through 
   September 30, 1994.  Regular dinner menus are available during these 
   hours.  Reservations Suggested.  All are served with either a soup or 
   salad.
   
   RESTAURANT		   ENTREE			   PRICE
   
   Garden Grill		   Choice of:			   13.50
   Land Pavillion	    Catch of the Day
   			    Rotisserie Chicken
   			    Cajun Style Jambalaya
   			    Fresh Pasta Primavera
   			   Cake of the Day
   
   Le Cellier		   Choice of:			   12.25
   Canada		    Poached Salmon
   			    Prime Rib
   			   Pumpkin Apple Pie
   
   Rose & Crown		   Choise of:			   12.95
   U.K.			    Sauteed Chicken Breast
   			    Fish & Chips
   			    Prim rib
   			    Cottage Pie
   			   Apple Blackberry Crumble
   
   Le Chefs de France &	   Choise of:			   15.75
   & Au Petite Cafe	    Filet of Orange Roughy
   France		    Chicken Breast Baked in Puff Pastry
   			    Beef Braised in Red Burgandy
   			   Chef De France Pastry Selections
   
   Marrakesh		   Choice of:			   14.75
   Morocco		    Brochettes of Beef Kefta & Chicken
   			    Meshoui Roast Lamb & Chicken Bastilla
   			   Vegetable Couscous
   			   Crepes Marrakesh or Moroccan Pastry
   
   Mitsukoshi		   Choice of:			   15.50
   Japan		    Grilled Shimp, Chicken or Sukyaki
   			    Steak w/ vegetables and upon noodles
   			   Ice Cream of Fresh Fruit
   
   Alfredo		   Choice of:			   15.75
   Italy		    Fettuccine Alfredo
   			    Lasagna
   			    Braised Italian Sausage w/ Peppers
   			    Chicken Parmigiana
   			   Homemade Gelati
   
   Biergarten		   Choice of:			   13.95
   Germanny		    Roast Chicken and Bratwurst
   			    Sauerbraten
   			    Sampler Plate
   			   Apple Strudel
   
   Nine Dragons		   Choice of:			   13.95
   China		    Pepper Steak
   			    Mu Shu Pork
   			    Sweet & Sour pork
   			    Stir-fried Shimp and Vegetables
   			    Kang Bao Chicken
   			   Egg Roll
   			   Red Bean Ice Cream
   
   Akershus		   Royal Buffet: Hot & cold	   13.50
   Norway		   meats, cheeses, salads, salmon
   			   and other seafoods.
   			   Ice Cream
   
   San Angel Inn	   Choice of:			   13.25
   Mexico		    Chicken Enchiladas
   			    Sampler Plate
   			    Roaste Pork Loin in Spice Marinade
   			   Flan
   

    Innoventions will open on July 1.
    
    The recent Disney Channel Magazine talked about this new attraction
    and, although a few months back I was thinking it would be just another 
    Communicore like attraction, it is far different.
    
    Recalling from memory here is what you'll find at Innoventions:
    
          - Bill Nye: The Science Guy talking about the world of science.
    
          - The latest in computers from Apple and IBM (I know what you're
            thinking).
    
          - Sega Center that offers visitors a chance to test some games
            before they go on the market...sort of a field test site.
    
          - There are some Virtual Reality things including some type of
            ride, Flight Simulater, and a second ride type VR attraction
            with an Aladdin theme.
    
          - There is an area that talks about the latest in audio and
            video technologies.
    
          - Something like a "Home of the Future" attraction will also
            be part of Innoventions. I think it's here that we meet a new
            Disney character called "Carrotini" but I'm a but unsure about
            this.
    
          - I also remember reading about some type of water fountain that
            will shoot water 150 feet into the air.
    
    All this on July 1 at EPCOT '94.
    
    Mike

    As of late last week Splashtacular was scheduled to CLOSE on June 11th.
    No reason was given.
    
    That Barbie show may be moving to MGM's Backlot Theater, former home of
    The Beauty and the Beast Stage Show.
    
    The American Gardens Pavillion in Epcot will be holding a tribute to
    Duke Ellington this Summer.
    
    Mike

    We'll soon be hearing about expansion plans at The World Showcase in
    EC.
    
    First in line is Denmark. It will go between Italy and Germany.
    
    Others being planned for the distant future are Switzerland, Russia,
    and Africa.
    
    Mike

RE:>>                      <<< Note 11.198 by WREATH::SCOPA >>>
>>                           -< New Countries for WS >-
>>
>>    We'll soon be hearing about expansion plans at The World Showcase in
>>    EC.
>>    
>>    First in line is Denmark. It will go between Italy and Germany.
>>    
>>    Others being planned for the distant future are Switzerland, Russia,
>>    and Africa.
>>    
>>    Mike

Africa?  Since when do entire continents qualify as countries?

    >>>Africa?  Since when do entire continents qualify as countries?
    
       October 1, 1982

  CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 22, 1994--Sega of America Inc. today
announced its three year commitment to "Innoventions," Epcot '94's
permanent showcase for emerging products of industry and technology.
  Thomas J. Kalinske, president and CEO of Sega, will unveil a scale model
of the exhibit today at the Consumer Electronics Show.  The 10,000 square
foot exhibit, the largest dedicated space at Innoventions, opens July 1
and will allow visitors to preview the near future of interactive
entertainment.
  "Sega is shaping the evolution of digital interactive home
entertainment," Kalinske said.  "At Innoventions, we can share our vision
and technology with consumers even before most of these products come to
market."
  Sega's exhibit space itself was designed to recreate the look and feel of
interactive gameplay.  The evolutionary exhibit features 140 free Genesis,
Sega CD, and Game Gear gameplay stations with the hottest new software
titles.  Visitors will be able to mingle with Sonic The Hedgehog and test
the newest game titles, while previewing the latest arcade games and home
entertainment technology, such as the Sega Channel and Edge-16, which will
allow gamers to compete with one another over a telephone line.  In fact,
it will be demonstrated via a phone hook-up with another location in the
pavilion.
  "We are excited to showcase what we know to be the future of home
entertainment," said Shinobu Toyoda, executive vice president at Sega.
"There is a new paradigm emerging in home entertainment that needs to be
recognized by all members of the family.  Disney is the perfect place to
reach mom, dad and the kids."
  The exhibit is divided into five environments: Action/Adventure, Sports,
Family and Kids, Future and the Arcade.  Each area features video games,
graphics, lights, music and theme design elements that enhance the
interactive experience: the Sports arena is dominated by a scorecard
thrusting nearly 20 feet overhead; and the Family and Kids area will
incorporate a 10-foot-tall statue of Sonic The Hedgehog and whimsical
clouds floating overhead.
  In the center of the exhibit is an Arcade which features two of the
latest arcade games incorporating state-of-the-art technology: Virtua
Formula racing and the AS-1.  Virtua Formula racing incorporates the
newest polygon-graphic technology and offers a realistic simulation of
Formula One racing as guests drive a full-motion replica of Formula One
race cars.  The AS-1 invites guests to board a three-axis simulator and
compete against each other in a dynamic game of motion, sight and sound.
  Dynamic light boxes, game character cut-outs, fiber-optics signs, and
video monitors tied to laser discs punctuate the exhibit's superstructure
of towers and trusses that connect exhibit areas to one another.
  At 10,000 square feet, Sega's exhibit space is larger than any other
exhibitor by 50 percent.
  Sega of America is the arm of Tokyo-based Sega Enterprises Ltd.
responsible for the development, marketing and distribution of Sega
products in the Americas.  Sega Enterprises Ltd. is a nearly $4 billion
company known as a leader in interactive digital, entertainment media,
with operations on five continents.

    I was at Innoventions last week with my family.  Lots of video games,
    computerized musical stuff, HDTV demo, robots etc.  I was approached by
    someone to see the latest in Apple's computer hardware/software in the
    Apple's own display area.  ( Where is Digitial's display area??!!)
    
    I was disappointed when I got to the VIRTUA and AS-1 area.  There was
    a sign saying that we need to purchase tickets for VIRTUA and AS-1 at
    the EPCOT Center ticket counters!!!!  No wonder there was not much of
    a line there even the building was packed with people.  I was not
    ready to rush out back to the ticket area to purchase the ticket in
    the 90+ degrees temperature.  I did not even want to find out how much
    it would cost.  I thought everything was included in our 5 day pass.
    Well, we just skipped it.  Hope they will change it soon.
    
    Norbert
    

Norbert,

I was quite irritated about the charges at Innoventions and filled out
a complaint form. When we were there you could buy tickets at $4.00 each
right near the "rides".

Doug

    I am glad that I was not the only one who was irritated by the charges
    at Innoventions.  A complaint form?  Hmm, good idea.  I did not know
    that they were selling tickets right in there.  That was not what the
    sign said.  Anyway, will do that next time we go.  Hopefully, enough
    people complain by then and no additional tickets will be required!!   
    
    Norbert                                   

    All the cast members at Innoventions are aware of the visitor
    complaints regarding the $4 charge to do the simulator and the Virtua
    Racing. 
    
    Hopefully there will be enough complaints to change this policy or
    reduce the price.
    
    Mike_who_did_lousy_on_Virtua_Racing

    Mike's postcard in 128.42 mentions that Horizons is closed, and my
    Fodor's WDW for Adults says Horizons will be replaced with a space
    journey attraction. Does anyone know of this is the start of a
    makeover? Horizons was one of my favorite.
    
    Steve H.
    

    Steve,
    
    Horizons may be replaced by "Journey Into Space." I'll be on the
    lookout for more info on this.
    
    Mike Scopa
    TZTOT Survivor
    

    Last night I received E-Mail from a cast member telling me that EPCOT
    will soon adopt PERMANENT operating hours.
    
    It appears that Future World will open an hour before World Showcase
    and close an hour before World Showcase.
    
    I will post details as I get them.
    
    Mike
    

Here's what's new that I saw at EPCOT:

Honey, I shrunk the Audience:  Best new attraction in a long time.
       Has people talking about it loooong after seeing it.  Let's not
       spoil the fun, shall we, for those of us who have seen it.

Spaceship Earth: Some new set work throughout and completely new at the
       end.  They replace the soundtrack, though, with a new one by 
       Jeremey Irons.  I preferred Walter Cronkite.

Just About to open:
       Harvest Theatre now showing "Circle of Life" (as of Saturday 1/14
       if it went as planned.)

Not sure it it's new or not:

In Canada, a brass quartet (Canadian Corps?) doing a hilarious
       parody of Illuminations, which they call the "1813 Overture."

In Japan, a street performer who entertains with magic, carvings, and just
       plain funny antics.  He works alone using a small cart with all his
       props.  

 AT&T UNVEILS NEW EPCOT PAVILION;
 VISITORS EXPERIENCE 21ST CENTURY'S  'GLOBAL NEIGHBORHOOD' 


  ORLANDO, Fla., Feb. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- AT&T (NYSE: T) unveiled the world
of future communication here today at EPCOT's Spaceship Earth pavilion. 
One of EPCOT'S most popular attractions since its 1982 debut, the new ride
and an interactive communications exhibit area entertains visitors of all
ages with the wonders of AT&T's leading-edge technology.
  "AT&T is proud to present an all new Spaceship Earth pavilion, where
communication becomes magical -- not mystical," said Earl Quenzel,
Marketing Director, Consumer Communications Services, winner of the 1994
Malcolm Baldrige National Quality Award.  "We're showing people the many
new ways that communications will enhance their lives."
  Inside the famous 180-foot geosphere, visitors to Spaceship Earth board a
train to journey through time and witness the evolution of communications.
 The ride traces the development of language and literature from primitive
eras, through the Renaissance and industrialization to the 21st Century
information age.
  With a new musical score and a narration by Academy Award-winning actor
Jeremy Irons, the exhibit's dramatic, new production, dazzling special
effects and technologies never used before in a Disney show, includes
twelve completely new show scenes.  The ride climaxes with a breathtaking
new planetarium view of the Earth, and shows that distance is no longer a
barrier -- the entire world is our next door neighbor.
  In the post-ride show -- called the Global Neighborhood -- visitors
experience innovative, hands-on communications exhibits, many created by
Walt Disney Imagineering using technology developed by AT&T Bell
Laboratories.
  "When visitors leave our pavilion, we want them to understand that our
communications technology is easy-to-use," said Quenzel.  "They'll see
that AT&T makes it easy for them to communicate with the important people
in their lives -- anytime, anywhere."
  As an added feature, AT&T offers a "Global Neighborhood" complimentary
discussion guide to Spaceship Earth visitors.  Designed for parents and
teachers to stimulate further discussion and learning among children, the
guide traces the evolution and value of communications to convey the
thrilling realization that "the future is now."  The guide is available in
EPCOT's Discovery Center (adjacent to Spaceship Earth) or by writing to
GLOBAL NEIGHBORHOOD GUIDE, AT&T, Room 2333F2, 295 N. Maple Avenue, Basking
Ridge, N.J. 07920.
  Members of the AT&T True Rewards(sm) program can redeem points toward
vacation packages at The Walt Disney World Resort, as well as certificates
for merchandise from The Disney Store, merchandise certificates for The
Disney Catalog, and a 6-month subscription to The Disney Channel.  For
more information, consumers can call 1-800-7REWARD.

Some people said that you could purchase a booklet for the kids, which
had 2 pages for each country with places for peeloff stickers, validation 
stamp, and notes.  Cast Members from each country would stamp the booklet
and write in the language of their country.  $5-10.

I thought this was called a World Passport, but now wonder if I mixed up the
term.  What is this booklet?   Where in EPCOT/World Showcase would I buy this?

    Carol

Another question:  Where currently is the best view for Illuminations?

     Carol

We had a good view of Illuminations from the walkway behind the United Kingdom.
There is a wall along the water there to lean against and there weren't too
many people there.
						Tracy

    I like the view from in front of the large gift shop in the front of
    the lagoon [midway between Mexico and Canada].  It is a good view of
    almost all countries and at the end it is an easy way to get in front
    of the crowds...assuming you use the main entrance.
    
    -Jay
    

I like the view from the bridge and terraces by Internation Gateway.
If I'n not staying at the Beach Club, I park there anyway and walk
out the back.  Another trick if you are staying on-property is to
leave via the Beach Club and take the bus to Pleasure Island for
a nightcap before heading home.

Bill A.

    I don't think there's any such thing as a bad view for Illuminations.
    The trick is to get over next to the railing to get a place for the
    little kids. Once it gets 2-3 deep, they can't see unless they're up
    front. Stake out a spot at least 20 minutes prior to showtime.
    
    

    
    We stood on the concrete terrace that is directly in front of you as
    you walk up from Tomorrowland.  This is right next to one of the gift
    shops.  
    
    The seating by the rail was already full at 8:30pm for a 10:00pm show. 
    Instead, we sat at the back of the patio where it slopes up to the
    walkway.  Like this, we were able to see over the rest of the crowd.
    
    - Gary

	My son bought his right at one of the pushcards as you walk into
	Epcot.   It looks just like a passport, and contains 2 pages per
	country.  Each country has a special desk where they write a 
	note in their native language to the child, and stamp it (in 
	additional to the children putting the stickers in)...  Its one of
	my 8 year old's favorite keepsakes from disney - As he did it 
	himself.
	/robin

    I was just reading note 461 regarding the little 4 year old girl who
    died while in the Body Tours ride at EPCOT.  They think she had a heart
    condition.  
    
    In the article from the Gardner News it described Body Tours as a 
    "jarrying ride" and said there are warnings to not go on it if you're
    pregnant etc...  I've never been in this attraction.  Is it really that
    bad?  Is it like a rollercoaster?  
    
    Carol
    

//    In the article from the Gardner News it described Body Tours as a 
//    "jarrying ride" and said there are warnings to not go on it if you're
//    pregnant etc...  I've never been in this attraction.  Is it really that
//    bad?  Is it like a rollercoaster?  
//    
//    Carol
    
Body Wars is a simulation ride.  30 or so people sit in individual seats in
a room.  Each is secured with a seatbelt.  The combination of the movement of
the "room" and the graphics on a movie screen up front make you feel as if you
are flying through the veins, heart, brain, etc. of a person.  Most of this
is visual, but the room does tip and lurch back and forth and up and down.
The movement is pretty jarring; not at all smooth stops and starts.  I was
on this last week, and even for adults it's tough not to flop around a bit 
in the seats, and I was sure glad to have the seatbelt on.  I felt like my 
feet barely reached the floor and my legs were swinging back and forth.  As
usual, this sort of thing gives me motion sickness, so I closed my eyes
through at least half of it. :-)
							Tracy

    Thanks for the explanation, Tracy!
    
    I know it really depends on the individual child but, in general, would
    you say that a 4 year old could handle this ride?  We're going in
    October and will have a 4 year old along.  What do you think??
    
    Carol
    

    
    
    No problem,  this ride is tame,  lot's of youngsters on this
    attraction.  
    
    Now, the Back to the Future ride, that is a white-knuckler.
    
    JL
    
    

    What's Back to the Future like?  Is it simulated also?
    
    Carol
    

My littler nephew who was almost 5 went on Star Tours and loved it.  It's 
an attaction in MGM that is very similar to Body Wars.  He's not the bravest
of souls either, and did not like Big Thunder Mountain Railroad (an actual
moving roller coaster) at all.  It was a toss up as to whether he'd like
the simulation rides; luckily he did.

Back to the future is another simulation ride and is at Universal Studios.
The effects are incredible, and the amount of movement that the car does is
much more and much rougher (I think) than either Star Tours or Body Wars.
Where I was sitting, my knee kept slamming into the side of the car.

						Tracy

    
    
    If you want more information about the "Back to the Future" ride note
    178 has a few tidbit's.    My kids still talk about this ride as being
    one of their favorites...    do not sit next to the doors on this ride
    you will get banged-up...the kid's love it...
    
    
    JL
    

Body Wars is very rough.  I enjoyed it, but not *because* it was rough.

As for children, when Evan was 5ish, he went on Star Tours at Disneyland and
did *not* like it.  It was too rough for him and he felt sick afterwards.
This year (age 7) he wanted to try it at WDW, and I told him that he wouldn't
feel as sick if he either kept his eyes forward on the screen or else shut 
them.  He kept his eyes straight ahead on the screen, and *loved* it.

A few days later we went on Body Wars and he liked that, too, but it was
a *lot* rougher than Star Tours, and you get little warning which direction
it will go next.  It's almost like the screen and your movements don't match
as well as when you're doing Star Tours.

If in doubt, start with Star Tours and see how they do there.

   Carol

On one of the buses, the driver told us that EPCOT stands for

    Employees'
    Polyester
    Costumes
    Of
    Torture

:-)

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                       -< The Disneyphile's Disney File >-
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WREATH::SCOPA                                         5 lines  23-AUG-1994 15:55
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    This note has been created for discussions on Innoventions at EPCOT
    Center. Since Innoventions will constantly be changing I thought it
    deserved it's own note. 
     
    Mike
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WREATH::SCOPA                                        50 lines  23-AUG-1994 15:59
                           -< Sega at Innoventions >-
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     CHICAGO, June 23 /CNW/ - Sega today announced its three year commitment
    to ``Innoventions,'' Epcot '94's permanent showcase for emerging products
    of industry and technology.
      Thomas J. Kalinske, president and CEO of Sega, will unveil a scale model
    of the exhibit today at the Consumer Electronics Show. The 10,000 square
    foot exhibit, the largest dedicated space at Innoventions, opens July 1
    and will allow visitors to preview the near future of interactive
    entertainment.
      ``Sega is shaping the evolution of digital interactive home
    entertainment,'' Kalinske said. ``At Innoventions, we can share our vision
    and technology with consumers even before most of these products come to
    market.''
      Sega's exhibit space itself was designed to recreate the look and feel of
    interactive gameplay. The evolutionary exhibit features 140 free Genesis,
    Sega CD, and Game Gear gameplay stations with the hottest new software
    titles. Visitors will be able to mingle with Sonic The Hedgehog and test
    the newest game titles, while previewing the latest arcade games and home
    entertainment technology, such as the Sega Channel and Edge-16, which will
    allow gamers to compete with one another over a telephone line. In fact,
    it will be demonstrated via a phone hook-up with another location in the
    pavilion.
      ``We are excited to showcase what we know to be the future of home
    entertainment,'' said Nancy Bassett, Director of Marketing for Sega of
    Canada. ``There is a new paradigm emerging in home entertainment that
    needs to be recognized by all members of the family. Disney is the perfect
    place to reach mom, dad and the kids.''
      The exhibit is divided into five environments: Action/Adventure, Sports,
    Family and Kids, Future and the Arcade. Each area features video games,
    graphics, lights, music and theme design elements that enhance the
    interactive experience: the Sports arena is dominated by a scorecard
    thrusting nearly 20 feet overhead; and the Family and Kids area will
    incorporate a 10-foot-tall statue of Sonic The Hedgehog and whimsical
    clouds floating overhead.
     In the center of the exhibit is an Arcade which features two of the
    latest arcade games incorporating state-of-the-art technology: Virtua
    Formula racing and the AS-1. Virtua Formula racing incorporates the newest
    polygon-graphic technology and offers a realistic simulation of Formula
    One racing as guests drive a full-motion replica of Formula One race cars.
    The AS-1 invites guests to board a three-axis simulator and compete
    against each other in a dynamic game of motion, sight and sound.
      Dynamic light boxes, game character cut-outs, fibre-optics signs, and
    video monitors tied to laser discs punctuate the exhibit's superstructure
    of towers and trusses that connect exhibit areas to one another.
      At 10,000 square feet, Sega's exhibit space is larger than any other
    exhibitor by 50 percent.
      Sega of Canada, Inc. is a subsidiary of Sega of America, Inc.
    headquartered in Redwood City, California. Sega of America is in turn a
    wholly-owned subsidiary of Sega Enterprises Ltd., of Japan, which
    generated $4 billion in worldwide sales last year.
                                                              
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WREATH::SCOPA                                        34 lines  23-AUG-1994 16:12
                           -< More Innoventions PR >-
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    By TIM RACE
    c. 1994 N.Y. Times News Service
       And now comes Disney World for the wired generation.
       Hoping to update the earnest-science-teacher image of its Epcot Center,
    Walt Disney World is about to open an exposition called Innoventions, a
    showcase of consumer electronics and creature comforts from the near future.
       The Lake Buena Vista, Fla., layout includes wrist telephones,
    computerized guitars and a house in which all the plumbing, heating and
    lighting thinks for itself.
       It's as if Disney had combined the Sharper Image catalogue and one of
    those utopian AT&T ``You Will'' television commercials about the digital
    future.
       Indeed, AT&T is one of the dozens of companies whose gadgetry will be on
    display at Innoventions, which opens for previews on Friday and opens
    officially in September.
       On Wednesday, Michael D. Eisner, chairman of the Walt Disney Co., will
    be in Manhattan for a news conference at the Waldorf Astoria to promote
    Innoventions, which he described in a recent news release as a place where
    ``the public will enjoy a privileged glimpse into their own future and
    that of their children.''
       Epcot Center, which opened in 1982, has always been a technological
    daydream. The name, in fact, is an acronym for Experimental Prototype
    Communities of Tomorrow. But now Disney World sees tomorrow as a bit more
    hip than it used to.
       One of the Innovention attractions will be Aladdin's Magic Carpet, where
    spectators will watch on overhead monitors as participants wearing
    virtual-reality headsets take a carpet ride through Disney-animated
    cyberspace.
       Epcot Center guests ``may never go to Mars,'' Eisner said, ``but they
    will use the information superhighway, advanced computer software, digital
    television, virtual reality, voice-controlled appliances, electric cars
    and smart-house features they will try for the first time at Innoventions.''
       00:27 EDT   JUNE 26, 1994
                                                                
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                         -< Imagineering Labs at WDW >-
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      Imagineering Lab Showcases Immersive 'Aladdin' Experience in
          New Innoventions Pavilion at Walt Disney World Resort
      
    MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., July 18 /PRNewswire/ -- Walt Disney Co. (NYSE:
    DIS) and Silicon Graphics Inc. (NYSE: SGI) today unveiled the Walt Disney
    Imagineering (WDI) Labs at Epcot Center, Orlando, Fla., which offers a
    sneak preview of Disney's first work in virtual reality. Based on the
    full-length animated film, "Aladdin," the new exhibit combines Silicon
    Graphics' visual computing expertise with the creative talents of the Walt
    Disney Imagineering team.
      "The entertainment industry is the technology driver of the decade.
    By collaborating with Disney, the unparalleled leader in defining the
    animation experience, we will set a new standard for the converging worlds
    of technology and entertainment," said Mike Ramsay, senior vice president
    of Silicon Graphics' Visual Systems Group.  "Today's audiences expect
    experiences that are realistic, exciting and interactive.  WDI delivers
    Disney's renowned technical mastery and artistic innovation, while giving
    audiences a taste of next-generation virtual reality entertainment."
      The Walt Disney Imagineering Labs is designed to give the public a
    glimpse of how Disney creates its magic.  Nearly half the Labs' exhibit
    replicates the actual working environment at Walt Disney Imagineering in
    Glendale, Calif.  The exhibit highlights "Imagineers at work" creating
    virtual reality experiences on Silicon Graphics' family of computer systems.
      The other portion of the Labs is designed for guests of Walt Disney
    World to immerse themselves in Aladdin's town of "Agrabah." Guests will be
    taken through Agrabah in a quest for Aladdin's lamp, where they view,
    interact and virtually "fly" through scenes from the movie.
      From four virtual reality flight stations, guests will experience a
    "test flight" aboard the film's popular magic carpet -- all in a virtual
    world created with Silicon Graphics systems.  Guests view the experience on
    miniature wide-angle television screens contained in head-mounted displays
    and control the images they see by grasping the edge of the magic carpet.
      The Walt Disney Imagineering Labs also feature a real-time computer
    version of Iago, the classic Disney animated character from Aladdin,
    who hosts the experience and travels with guests.  A breakthrough in
    real-time character animations, Iago can exhibit more than 100 movements
    including gestures such as winking, laughing and crying.
    To create this level of animation and realism, WDI utilizes Silicon
    Graphics' Onyx(TM) graphics supercomputers, which deliver the world's
    fastest graphics and advanced supercomputing performance.  The Onyx
    systems, which incorporate RealityEngine2(TM) graphics subsystems, are at
    the technological heart of the exhibit. The systems provide a combination
    of high frame rates, sharp pictures and rich scenes that are animated
    in real-time using the IRIS Performer(TM) application software. WDI also
    utilizes Silicon Graphics' Indigo2(TM) desktop systems for modeling and
    animation design.  All Silicon Graphics systems are based on the powerful
     64-bit MIPS(R) RISC microprocessor architecture from MIPS Technologies
    Inc.
      "To develop a true virtual reality experience that allows visitors to
    enter and become immersed in the Aladdin environment, Walt Disney
    Imagineering Labs required the performance and high-end graphics
    capabilities of the world's most advance supercomputers," said Jon Snoddy,
    senior show designer at WDI.  "Silicon Graphics is a company which
    builds itself around pushing the high-end graphics envelope.  It has been
    exciting to work together to build a real-time system that will produce
    Disney-quality story and art."
      Walt Disney Imagineering Labs will be fully operational in Fall 1994.
    WDI will continue to embrace future Silicon Graphics technology as it
    enhances the virtual world software and migrates from the sneak preview
    forum to other Disney venues.
      Silicon Graphics Inc. is a leading manufacturer of high-performance
    visual computing and data server systems.  The company delivers
    interactive three-dimensional graphics, digital media and multiprocessing
    supercomputing technologies to technical and commercial environments
    through direct and indirect channels. Its subsidiary, MIPS Technologies
    Inc., designs and licenses the industry's leading RISC processor
    technology for the computer systems and embedded control markets. 
    Silicon Graphics has offices worldwide and headquarters in Mountain View.
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JVAX::NEUFFER                                        11 lines  16-SEP-1994 16:52
                            -< aladdin experience >-
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    I had the opportunity to view an SGI promotional videotape of the
    Imagineering/SGI Aladdin VR exhibit. Everything looked fantastic on a 2-D 
    videotape so I can imagine what the real thing must be like. In addition 
    to the visual effects of the headworn display there are also audio effects
     which surround you with the sounds of the marketplace as you fly through 
    the city. You also sit on the magic carpet which moves as you change 
    direction by grasping the edges of the carpet. 

    It looks pretty slick but with only 4 stations to "ride" I would expect 
    some pretty long lines. 

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                    -< IT's not an Attraction You Wait For >-
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    Actually, guests are selected randomly to "test" the VR prototypes so
    it's not everyone who gets to ride the carpet.
    
    Mike
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                        -< Motorola Joins Innoventions >-
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   Guests to Motorola' Exhibit Will Experience the Future
                       of Wireless Communications
  LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla., Sept. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Today at the
grand opening of Walt Disney World's  INNOVENTIONS(TM) at Epcot '94,
Motorola (NYSE: MOT)unveiled the blueprint for its "Travel the Information
Skyway(TM)" exhibit.  Scheduled to formally open in Spring 1995,
the exhibit will enable guests to travel the Skyway, which explores
and demonstrates how they can use wireless products for worldwide
communications.  The Skyway exhibit will showcase how wireless
communication products will take guests into the 21st century and
beyond.
  "Like Disney, Motorola believes it is essential to allow people
to explore and enjoy the technologies that will continue to change
their lives," said Bob Growney, executive vice president of Motorola,
Inc., and president and general manager of its Messaging, Information and
Media Sector.  "In the Motorola exhibit at INNOVENTIONS, guests will be
able to experience how wireless technology will be the key to limitless
access to information and communications from all over the world."
  Travel the Information Skyway
  When unveiled next spring, guests to the Motorola exhibit will
experience how wireless technology is the Information Skyway of the near
future. 
Through the use of interactive virtual reality and three-
dimensional effects, guests will live the experience of how wireless
communications are transmitted and received.  Via the Information Skyway, guests
will direct their wireless message travel anywhere in the world.
Nearby, a large scale video wall will display the path of the journey
through the  Skyway.  While traveling in and out of a signal's trip around the
earth, images will emphasize the speed and immediacy of Motorola's
wireless communication network.  Music and computer animation will enliven
the exhibit.  Guests will have an opportunity to see new and
compellingMotorola products such as the Envoy(TM) Personal
Wireless Communicator and the Wireless Sports Channel(TM).
  Guests will also get the chance to test
drive the Intelligent Vehicle Highway System from inside the
"Smart Car" display.  Motorola is one of the world's leading providers of
wireless communications, semiconductors and advanced electronic systems
and services.  Major equipment businesses include cellular telephone,
two-way radio, paging and data communications, personal communications,
automotive, defense and space electronics and computers.
Revenues in 1993 were approximately $17 billion.
  NOTE: Motorola, "Travel the Information Skyway," Envoy and
Wireless Sports Channel are trademarks of Motorola, Inc. Other names and
product names may be registered trademarks or trademarks of their
respective owners.
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WREATH::SCOPA                                        36 lines  30-SEP-1994 10:59
                            -< GM at Innoventions >-
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Headline:   GM IMPACT HIGHLIGHTS DISNEY'S INNOVENTIONS GRAND  OPENING


  ORLANDO, Fla., Sept. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- General Motors' Impact
electric vehicle (EV) transported Judson Green, president of Walt Disney
Attractions, to the grand opening of Innoventions, the newest
addition to Disney's EPCOT '94.  Innoventions is also the home to GM's 4,000
square foot exhibit featuring the Impact and EV technology.
  "We're enthusiastic about the opportunity to showcase our
state-of-the-art electric vehicle technology, and at the same time expand
our 14-year partnership with Walt Disney World," said Philip
Guarascio, GM vice-president of marketing and advertising.  "GM's participation
at Innoventions is a natural fit -- showcasing the latest inventions
and innovations."
  The centerpiece of the new GM display is the original prototype
Impact electric car, which debuted at the Los Angeles auto show in 1990.
The exhibit, which focuses on EV education, features components and
materials that comprise the technologically advanced electric vehicle, such
as the magnesium seat frame and steering wheel rim, inductively coupled
charging system, T-shaped lead-acid battery pack, and AC induction motor.
 In addition to the displays, a GM representative entertains
Innoventions visitors with a fun and fact-filled oration on the Impact and EV
technology.
  "The display also serves as a tribute to the men and women of
GM, and their dedication to developing advanced technologies and
producing world-class vehicles,"  Guarascio said.  "We are very proud to be
an industry leader in EV technology, and we want the world to know."
  To highlight the opening ceremonies, Green drove up to the
event in a limited-production Impact.  The vehicle is one of 50 prototypes
currently in the hands of potential EV customers as part of GM's two-year
PrEViewDrive Program, planned to cover 12 U.S. cities.  In conjunction with each
city's utility company, GM is researching the future needs of EV
customers and the infrastructure necessary to support EVs in the
marketplace.  More than 1,000 utility customers will drive the prototypes for
two- or four-week periods.  The program is currently running in Los
Angeles and Phoenix, and will begin in San Francisco in October.
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WREATH::SCOPA                                        28 lines  30-SEP-1994 11:00
                             -< Official Opening >-
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         INNOVENTIONS OPENS AT DISNEY'S EPCOT '94


  LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla., Sept. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- INNOVENTIONS,
Epcot 94's exposition of new technologies and inventions for home work and
play from America's most forward-thinking companies, was opened here today
by Judson Green, president of Walt Disney Attractions.
  Epcot guests will be able to see, touch and try the newest
breakthrough products that will be on the market in the very near future,
Green told more than 700 news reporters from the U.S., Europe, South America
and Japan at grand opening ceremonies.
  Today's opening follows a three-month preview during which
significant changes and additions were made in keeping with the commitment to
constantly add new products and ideas.  Exhibits include
everything from wrist phones, more than 200 new SEGA video games, a self-
cleaning public restroom and the electric-powered GM Impact car, to computer
hardware and information network programs which will soon create the
information super highway.  A new experimental virtual reality system will let
guests fly on Aladdin's magic carpet.
  Companies already include such industry leaders, as IBM, Apple,
GM, GE, Honeywell, AT&T, LEGO Dacta, Videonics, Oracle, Hammachedr
Schlemmer and Masco.  Today, Green announced that Motorola will soon join the
list of hi-tech exhibitors.  Executives of those firms attended today's
opening.
  INNOVENTIONS covers 100,000 square feet in the heart of Future
World.  On October 1, Epcot '94 becomes Epcot '95, symbolizing the Walt
Disney World's determination to always keep Future World ahead of
the times. 
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WREATH::SCOPA                                         3 lines  22-JUN-1995 16:59
                         -< New at Innoventions West >-
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    Innoventions West has a virtual walk-through of the Basilica of St.
    Peter's in Rome, as it exists today and as it existed in the 15th
    century before its demolition.

    Vocalist appearing at the American Gardens Theater for 1995:
    
         June 24-24        Neil Carter
         June 28-July-1    Eartha Kitt
         July 2-4          Roberta Flack
         July 7-9          Diane Schuur
         July 12-16        Joe Williams
         July 19-21        Ramsey Lewis
         July 26-27        Leslie Uggams
         July 28-30        Toni Tenille
         August 9-10       Maureen McGovern
         August 11-13      Rosemary Clooney
    
    The All American College Jazz Band playa solo at 5:30 P.M. and 6:45
    P.M. and is accompanied by a celebrity at 8:00 P.M. and 9:15 P.M.

    While at Epcot the end of June (my trip report is comming!), I 
    stopped at Ask Epcot (As soon as I have time to type it in I'll
    post the 4 page New Projects update sheet that they gave me).  I
    was told that when World of Motion closes this fall for revamping,
    they are going to reopen Horizons.  They are still looking for a
    sponsor which is why it is curently closed.  I was told that it
    would be unchanged whne it opens this fall. I guess that they don't
    want to have two buildings closed at the same time.  I'm not sure
    if it will close when World of Motion reopens. The CM didn't know
    what the future plans for Horizons would be.

    Just a reminder that The Universe of Energy is now slated to re-open in
    June.
    
    Mike

    So you want to see construction photos of the new World of Motion?
    
    Then check out:  http://pages.prodigy.com/T/D/C/tdcc/motion.htm

    **************************************************************
    *Reprinted without permission from the Detroit Free Press and*
    *            Kight-Ridder/Tribune Business News              *
    **************************************************************
    
By Rachel Konrad, Detroit Free Press

 Knight-Ridder/Tribune Business News

Feb. 13--General Motors Corp. spent the early '90s trying to stanch
record losses. Now it's raking in record profits, and it's time for a
vacation.

GM is heading for Disney World.

Today, executives will unveil plans for a new and improved World of
Motion, GM's automobile theme exhibit at Epcot Center in Orlando, Fla.

The renovated World of Motion will have two parts.

GM Preview Center, now open in a temporary pavilion, is a museum.

Test Track, which will open in spring of 1997, is a ride that lets
thrill-seekers pretend they're test drivers.

"You'll feel like you're right on the proving ground," said Phil
Guarascio, general manager of GM marketing. "The Test Track lets you
experience what it's like to drive over a cobblestone road or through harsh
weather conditions just like a test engineer."

GM executives wouldn't divulge the cost of the Disney pavilion, a
nonprofit venture whose goal is to make people more aware of GM as the
world's No. 1 automaker. But John Maciarz, the Orlando-based director of
World of Motion, said the site will be "one of the most popular spots in
Disney World -- if not the most popular spot."

The old World of Motion, which closed in January, was an animated tour
of transportation history. The display used special effects that earned oohs
and aahs in the early '80s, but failed to titillate '90s kids.

"In the old pavilion, the action occurred around you, not to you,"

Guarascio said. "The new pavilion will be a unique experience that immerses
participants almost literally...in how we test trucks."

World of Motion should be a hit with GM employees, although they don't
get a discount on Epcot's admission prices of $39 for adults and $32 for
children. But will it captivate car-indifferent people and be worth Epcot's
hefty prices?

Definitely, Guarascio said.

He dismissed doomsayers who compare World of Motion to Auto World, the
much-maligned Flint theme park that closed in 1985.

"There's no guesswork involved in World of Motion," Guarascio said. "In
addition to being a unique display with tremendous appeal, its location is
solid."

Besides, up to 20 million people visit Disney's Epcot Center each year.

Flint draws considerably fewer tourists.

    
    I have a quick question that hopefully someone knows the answer
    to - when staying at an Epcot resort and exercising early entry
    privileges, the guide books say that internal Epcot busses shuttle
    you from the International Gateway to Future World.  Specifically,
    are you bussed to the main Epcot entrance or to the "entrance" to
    Future World from the World Showcase?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Carol

    I just got back from WDW. We stayed at Caribbean Beach Resort which is
    considered an EPCOT resort. When we took the bus to EPCOT, it let us
    off just outside the entrande to the EPCOT. The first part of the park
    you go to is Future World. Does that answer your question?

    
    I don't really think so...I'm referring to those EPCOT resorts that
    are a short walk, tram, or boat ride from the International Gateway
    entrance (near the UK?) i.e. Yacht/Beach Clubs, Boardwalk Inn/Villas,
    and Dolphin/Swan.   These resorts do not have bus transportation to
    EPCOT.
    
    Carol

    .234 - 
    
    Carol, the Epcot shuttle bus is one of those "double decker" buses.
    It is parked a short walk from the Turnstyle.  It drops you off right
    past Canada.  you could walk as fast as it takes for the bus.
    
    Julie
    

    
    Julie, I think I might be getting this now.  On early entry days 
    (or other days for that matter), I can catch whatever is the 
    transportation (or walk?) from the Boardwalk to the International 
    Gateway.  World Showcase will not be open at this time - are you 
    saying that I can still walk through it to get to the Future World 
    attractions that are open?   I read the guidebooks to mean that 
    you *had* to take a bus to Future World.  So, I actually go through 
    a ticket gate or whatever at the World Showcase entrance? 
    
    The reason I ask is because I was thinking about following
    a loose touring plan and thought if I entered from the
    WS it might make sense to start at the Imagination attractions.
     
    Can you tell I'll be a first-timer?   8^)
    
     

    re: .238
    
    What Julie said is what used to happen.  For the summer only
    (supposedly), the double-decker buses are not in service.  So, if you
    want to go to Epcot in the mornings (before 11 am) from Y/B, S/D, or
    BW, you will have to hoof it from the International Gateway to
    Future World.
    
    One morning I walked from the BoardWalk to the Wonders of Life at
    10 am in 95 degree heat.  It was a killer.  Even from the boat dock,
    it's a long, hot walk.  My complaints have been duly noted at the
    BoardWalk.
    
    --Jay
    

    I was hoping that at least for the 25th Anniversary Celebration that
    the EPCOT hours would revert back to what they once were rather than
    keep the present hours.
    
    Did anyone who has gone this year find these hours inconvenient?
    
    Mike

>    Did anyone who has gone this year find these hours inconvenient?

The hours posted for Oct - Dec. 1996 are much less inconvenient than they
were during my Aug. 29-Sept. 3 trip and on my trip last October - on both
those trips, Future World was open 9 am - 7 pm and World Showcase was open
11 am - 9 pm.  I really hated it that Future World closed at 7:00!! (The later
opening of World Showcase didn't bother me that much.)  Glad to see Future World 
will be open as late as World Showcase in the next 3 months (and beyond?).
Figures they changed the hours *after* my trip! :-)

By the way, Horizons has reopened.  I couldn't tell whether there were any
changes in the ride (been a long time since my previous time on it).

Also, the "test track" on the outside of World of Motion is now encircling the
building and seems to extend some way in the back (was hard to see).

-- Nina

    Nina,
    
    Any word on the future of Horizons? I hope it remains at least through
    the 15 month celebration.
    
    Mike

>    Any word on the future of Horizons? I hope it remains at least through
>    the 15 month celebration.

I didn't see or hear any information about it one way or the other.  Maybe
no news is good news... :-) (It was closed when I was there last October,
so the fact that it's open now seems fairly positive.)

- Nina

Mike,

We were down from July 23 thru Aug 2. We found it very inconvenient
that FW closed at 8 PM during peak season.

Everyone was forced to cram into WS at 8 pm.

I don't think too many people like the new hours.

Doug

    Y'know Doug they probably did it for two reasons:
    
             - EPCOT guest numbers are low early/late in the day
             - Staggering CM hours saves on overhead.
    
    The crowds over the next 15 months may make it necessary for them to 
    rethink the Epcot hours...I hope so.
    
    Being an early bird I prefer both FW and WS to be open early....having
    them both open until late would be better than the present hours.
    
    Mike
    
    P.S. Everytime I communicate with anyone down in Orlando (CMs) I
         usually mention this inconvenience...hopefully the word will
         get to management....it took time....just like it did to get
         "Sorcery" back in MGM.
    
         

    The official opening for GM Test Track is May 13, 1997.
    
    Mike

    Just heard that the GM Test Track Opening has been pushed back. The
    attraction is now slated to open sometime in June.
    
    Mike

    After hearing how the Test Track opening has been constantly pushed
    back to "Opening Soon" I sent mail to EPCOT today to get the inside
    story.
    
    A castmember who has actually ridden Test Track says the attraction is
    "wonderful" but the cars keep breaking down. The imagineers will be
    working overtime to figure out a way to keep the attraction from
    breaking down before it is open to the public.
    
    I'll keep everyone posted. Those going down for the April school
    vacation week may have a shot at a soft opening or two.
    
    Castmembers are usually testing attractions a bout a month before they
    are open to the public. I know the TZTOT had an extended test period
    due to the nature of the ride...the same may hold for Test Track. The
    word from Orlando indicates that Test Track may open sometime between
    mid-May and mid-June. 
    
    Mike

    
    	Watched the Disney Easter Parade on the tube this afternoon.  J.D.
    Roth did a demo ride on the Test Track.  Just prior to riding he was
    asking the crowd what they thought was the fastest ride at Disney World.
    Obviously all guesses were wrong, but then he said something else. J.D.
    stated that when Test Track "opens this fall", it will be the fastest
    and longest ride at Disney World.  I don't know when the Easter special
    was filmed, but it looks like the opening has been pushed back.
    
    Bill
    

    Yesterday I brought up the live TMK camera during the parade...the TV
    had a clear sky and the camera shot had a cloudy sky.
    
    They filmed that parade either Monday or Friday.
    
    Mike

    
    My sister called us from WDW onm Eastre Day after the 2PM parade.  The
    parade they telecast must have been Friday's as she said Saturday she
    thought she heard it was canceled due to weather.

    The Easter parade was shot on Sat the 22nd.  I was there and saw my
    family on the tv on Easter Sunday at home.  It takes about 5 hrs to 
    film the parade..... Weather was great the week we were there (85
    degrees every day with only 3hrs of rain all week).
    
      Tom Z.

    Rumor circulating that Test Track will not officially open until
    November. There may be some soft openings from time to time.
    
    The feeling is that the cars have to be retrofitted somehow to
    withstand the rigors of the ride.
    
    The soft openings will limit the runs the cars have to make.
    
    I'm not putting much stock in this rumor...there's been too much
    publicity on this attraction to let it slip that far.
    
    Mike

    This was recently posted in the rec.arts.disney newsgroup. It's the
    latest on Test Track.
    
    ************
    
    
    Greetings all--
    
    There are three ride vehicles rolling around inside the structure of
    the upcoming thrill ride, but they're having a bit of a problem staying on
    the right track.  So to speak.
    
    What began as another spin-off attraction for Tony Baxter's versatile
    Enhanced Motion Vehicle has turned into the first set-back for what was
    originally perceived to be the Omnimover of the 21st Century.
    
    The EMV, introduced to Humankind in Disneyland's Indiana Jones and the
    Temple of the Forbidden Eye attraction, was a genius stroke and a
    feather in the cap for the man who had redefined a new generation of Disney
    thrills with Big Thunder Mountain.  With onboard computers that could in 
    turn interact with a larger computer control system--the possibility to
    reprogram the vehicles simply and quickly became a factor in quick
    turn-around for the development of such ambitious projects as Countdown
    To Extinction and Journey To The Center of the Earth.  But where those
    rides primarily give the illusion of speed and daredevil exploits--GM Test
    Track actually passes those boundaries by pure physical nature alone.
    
    It was decided early on to abandon the EMV design. One problem was in
    the construction of a buss-bar that extended down below the ride track and
    connected to another series of controls.  The Indy troop transports,
    infamous for hydraulic spills that required copious amounts of down-time, 
    were a prime key in the re-design.  Flower Street Imagineers began
    running a prototype vehicle around a slotted track and even built a 
    full-bodied buggy that was run off-course to test suspension and handling.
    With GM as a sponsor, who better to talk with about creating a vehicle to
    withstand the rigors of the experience?
    
    This put them only slightly behind schedule.
    
    It was when the first test cycling began with the approved vehicle
    design that problems developed; cars were run at a low speed at first, which
    was fine.  Then higher speeds increased e-stop errors.  Speculation is all
    that I can offer about the exact cause of the errors.  It's been thought
    that the severe angle of the banking could be causing a fault in alignment
    as the cars round the 318-foot diameter radius curve.  This is where the
    majority of the e-stops are happening.  As it stands, only four of the
    29 cars are in operation now as the rest undergo re-configuration.
    
    This wouldn't be the first time that a major "E" ticket got held up due
    to conveyance problems.
    
    When Disney aimed to open the world's largest flume ride in 1988, they
    ended up missing their opening day by a few months, thanks to the sizes
    of logs.
    
    Splash Mountain had a hideous discrepancy that resulted in logs that
    were too long and resulted in logjams around the tight curves of the
    eight-minute long ride.  Instead of re-designing the ornate logs,
    however--the Imagineers were told to restructure the flume.  A move
    that was later regretted when those logs were tossed out for capacity
    reasons.
    
    With matters of ride transport still on the drawing boards, the word is
    that Test Track won't bow until November of '97--with possible soft
    opening activity in mid-September.
    
    Doh!
    
    Well, for those who are starved for a new coaster-type thrill in
    Orlando, there's always the brand-new Windstorm roller-coaster, a 
    compact steel white-knuckler at Old Town on 192 near Celebration.  
    
    On the Big Thunder Scale of 1-5, 1 being Gadget's Go-Coaster and 5 being 
    Space Mountain (Florida) on a greasy day--the Windstorm gets a 6.  Go get 
    your head banged.
    
    Watch for our ticker-tape GM TEST TRACK FACTS, live tonight on the GM
    Preview Center site: (http://pages.prodigy.com/tdcc/motion.htm)
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    -- 
    
                                   Bing F�tch
    
                     Dark Studios ORLANDO
    
       Join us for the Coast-2-Coast Coaster Tour!
    
        (http://pages.prodigy.com/alpha/tour.htm)

    If you're a Horizons fan then check out
    
        http://members.aol.com/SvHorizons/index.html

    Mike,
    
    I saw this weekend on Inside Out that the test rack was scheduled to
    open this month (May). The show was a repeat, but the calendar of events 
    was current.
    
       
    
    Mark Stevens

    Mark,
    
    I received e-mail this morning from a castmember telling me that Test
    Track is still having problems with the vehicles and that he heard 
    "...the soft opening is pushed back to at least July, maybe later."
    
    Things happen in threes...I was there in '92 for the soft opening of
    Splash Mountain.....I was there in '94 for the soft opening of TZTOT,
    ....one more theme park to go....EPCOT in '97 for Test Track.
    
    Here's a promise that if I do get to try it out I will go over to
    Innoventions and send mail to someone to post my impressions of the
    attraction.
    
    Mike

    I'm seeing more and more confirmation of Test Track not opening until
    November. I guess there is a gift shop now open and merchandise is
    being sold but only some soft openings in June and July are your best
    bet for experiencing this attraction.
    
    Mike

    Because of the large number of noters going in the next several months
    I continue to monitor the Test Track saga.
    
    Here is some text from someone who recently posted an update in r.a.d.:
    
    "Well, not to completely ruin your hopes, but, the information is
    completely right.  Just call Epcot Guest Relations and ask.  An
    opening date has not been determinded yet, and rest assured, there is no
    chance of it opening to the public any time this month (May).  
    
    I have a friend in Epcot Park Management and his optimistic view is that 
    it will be open by early July.  Others at WDW are not as optimistic.  
    
    But rest assured, castmembers don't even know when they'll be able to 
    test ride the Test Track.  Epcot has erased the "Opening Spring of 1997" 
    on the green walls near the attraction.  And if that doesn't put 
    the nail in the coffin on the rumored May 13th opening, just wait
    until May 13th and that will."
    
    And so the saga continues...
    
    Mike
    
    

    Apparently there is a NEW version of Illuminations 25 that began last 
    weekend. This new version has eliminated some voice overs, has some new
    classical pieces added to the music, and has increased the fireworks
    towards the end.
    
    I don't know why it was changed but sometimes complaints can do their
    thing. So everyone going down this Summer may actually enjoy this
    version of Illuminations 25.
    
    Mike

    I was at Epcot last weekend for Illuminations..and although I'm not
    sure of what it was like before..there was no speaking what-so-ever
    during the show.  Just Laser lights, Music and Fireworks.  It was
    simply awesome to watch.

    
    We were really REALLY disappointed with Illuminations 25.
    
    The show we saw this May was vastly inferior to the show we
    saw in Fall of '92.  Last time we walked over from the Yacht 
    and Beach to watch it most every night.  This year we planned 
    to do it from the Boardwalk.
    
    I wish I could describe the look of disgust on my wife's face
    when I-25 ended the first (and last time) we went to see it.
    The "What the heck was *THAT*?" look was almost comical!  She
    took it harder than I did (I've never been a big fireworks 
    fan)....  
    
    I'm not surprised there have been complaints.
    
    - Sean

    Sean,
    
    I guess the revamped Illuminations25 has more traditional Disney music
    and more pizazz in the fireworks.
    
    I would love to know how the change came about!
    
    Mike 

    Latest on Test Track is that the big problem seems to be the tires. Per 
    the testing schedule they are currently on the tires wear out after a
    month.
    
    Test Track will not have a soft opening for employees until late
    August/early September.
    
    I guess that means there is only a slight chance for those of us going
    this Summer to try this new attraction.
    
    Mike
    
    

    For a virtual Ride on GM's Test Track go to:
    
            http://pages.prodigy.com/tdcc/motion1.htm