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Title:CRUISE TRAVEL
Moderator:XANADU::FAMULARO
Created:Thu Aug 04 1988
Last Modified:Thu Dec 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Tue Dec 31 1996
Number of topics:562
Total number of notes:2834

472.0. "Carnival-Festival update??" by ISLNDS::BELLEFEUILLE () Tue Sep 28 1993 15:04

    
    Hi,
    
    I've read thru the notes on Carnival Festival, but they're pretty old.
    
    Anyone have any *recent* experience on this ship? We're looking at the
    tour out of San Juan that stops at several Islands over a week's time.
    
    We have two teens (15 and 17).
    
    Would appreciate any updated comments on service, food, condition of
    the ship, entertainment, etc.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Rich
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472.1San Juan CruiseSALEM::FORGUES_RFri Oct 01 1993 14:2415
    I have never been on the Carnival Cruise Line, but I can suggest
    a great ship that departs out of San Juan.  The RCCL - Monarch 
    of the Seas is good choice.  We have been on the sister ships
    of the Monarch (The Majesty and the Soverign) and loved them 
    both.  We are currently booked on the Monarch for next May.  
    
    The Monarch leaves out of San Juan on Sundays and goes to Barbados,
    Martinique, St. Maarten, St. Thomas, and Antigua.  It is a 7 day
    cruise.  We just booked this past week for next May and got a rate
    of $1315 pp + $90 for Port Charges.  This will be our fourth cruise.
    Our first was on the Norweign Cruise Line and the others on RCCL.
    Both lines are very good, but we prefer to go on the newer ships
    and RCCL seems to have more offer in that respect.
    
    
472.2Cost vs. Value??ISLNDS::BELLEFEUILLEFri Oct 01 1993 15:319
    
    Thanks,
    
    have heard great things about RCCL, but they are quite a bit more
    expensive than Carnival. I think my wife said ~$4500 for the four of
    us on Carnival. Using your cost would put us at $5580 for four. I know it's
    better, but is it $300 per person better??
    
    Rich
472.3AKOFAT::LANEDon't assume I'm all I ever will be...Fri Oct 01 1993 17:5020
    HI Rich,
    
    I've been on both Carnival and RCCL.  I think it all depends on what
    you're looking for.  The food was MUCH better on RCCL.  The age group
    was much older though.  Carnival was more of a "party" boat, alot of
    people in their 20's and 30's.  I'm assuming that you're travelling
    with kids?  If so, you might want to check with your travel agent and
    see which cruise would have more activities for them.  One the cruise
    that I was on with RCCL last week (to Bermuda) we only saw one child. 
    I don't remember if there were any children on our cruise through the
    Carnival line.
    
    I had a good time on both boats, I think a great deal has to do who you
    are travelling with.  I think if I had to pick from the two lines I'd
    go with RCCL just because of the quality of food.  If it's worth $300
    pp more, I don't know if I could justify it.
    
    I'm sure you'll have a great time no matter which line you choose!
    
    Debbi
472.4LEDDEV::CULLISONMon Oct 04 1993 13:5844
    You need to talk to your travel agent to get the actual
    difference in price, it can vary a lot depending on date etc.
    Make sure the cabins are similar etc. I assume you are booking two
    cabins, four people in one cabin is cheaper but not all that
    pleasant. The Monarch out of San Juan is very popular and even though
    it is the same ship as Sovereign/Majesty of Seas and cruise is
    same length it is almost always the most expensive of the three
    for same cabin/date.
    
    If cruise is not during a vacation week or summer then Monarch will
    not have many kids, Carnival will usually have more, but in either
    case the week of the cruise determines a lot. In winter on a large
    ship the number of kids can go from 50 to 100 out of 2000 on a non
    holiday week to 500 to 600 out of 2000 say for a school holiday week.
    I am fairly certain that Monarch has a Teen disco if this is
    something they like, I believe most Carnival ships have these.
    
    As said in 472.3, Carnival has younger age group, more party oriented,
    maybe more fun for teenage kids. RCCL has older average age, 
    better food and better service.
    
    I think if you compare similar cabin, similar location and same 
    cruise date then probably difference is not $300 per week but may be.
    Festivale is older (I am pretty sure). Also if older be careful, on
    older ships of any line the least expensive cabins may have bunk
    beds. Monarch does not have any bunk beds, I believe all cabins
    have two twins which can be made up as a queen.
    
    Another note just to keep in mind. On a cruise a few years ago we
    sat with a travel agent. One thing she said was Carnival paid a
    higher than normal commission, 15% vs. 10%. Not sure if this is 
    still true but if so could affect what agent recommends ?
    She also said, after 4 cruises a year on average for a long time,
    she preferred RCCL over Carnival any time, but her older teenage kids
    preferred Carnival.
    
    If you really want good service and food under Carnivale then you
    will have to pay more and cruise on Holland America which Carnivale
    owns.
    
    Should have a good time either way.
    
    					Harold C.
    
472.5Any recent Festivale cruisers?SOLANA::GOFF_SHWed Jan 05 1994 19:2023
    So, did anyone end up taking the Festivale cruise?  My husband and I
    just booked passage for the April 23rd departure along with 4 other
    wild and crazy couples.  We have cruised before, but many of the others
    haven't.  We were pushing for a RCCL Caribbean cruise, but since cost
    was an issue, Carnival appeared to be the best value and fit for the
    group.  Besides, we can be a rowdy bunch and I hear Carnival cruises
    are the best if you want to party your buns off!
    
    Now we're anxious to hear from others who have recently been on the
    Festivale.  Has it been refurbished recently (my brochure says 1985,
    which makes me a little concerned about its decor and condition)?  Were
    there any tours in port that shouldn't be missed, or out-of-the way
    beaches we should seek out?  How about theme nights or other on-board
    activities? 
    
    This will be great motivation to carry out my New Year's resolution to
    work out at the gym on a regular basis and take off that infamous 10
    lbs...a poolside picture from the brochure is going on my refrigerator
    tonight!  
    
    Already counting the days and planning my wardrobe!
    
    Shelley
472.6Rethink the FestivaleISLNDS::LAMPROSThu Jan 13 1994 15:5710
    
    My wife and I sailed on the Festivale in 1989. It is one of the older
    not so well appointed ships. What they did in 1985 was cut the ship in
    half and lengthen it. They also did some refurbish but not much. My
    wife and I cruise every year. If you want party, it's Carnival Lines but
    I would highly recommend one of the other Carnival ships. The Festivale
    would not be the best choice. You will have fun on any of their ships
    including the Festivale but in my opinion I would book another newer 
    ship.   
                                                Bill
472.7Setting Sail April 22ndTORREY::GOFF_SHMon Apr 04 1994 17:5215
    Well, the Festivale won out - our rowdy group of 10 sets sail April
    22nd!  It still isn't my first choice for Ship, but there are lots of
    ports so we don't have many days at sea confined only to the ship. 
    Regardless, we are really looking forward to a good time.  All the men
    decided to rent Tuxedos and make a big event out of the formal night.
    Considering two of these men don't even own a suit this is a big deal!
    Cruising is a first for most of the group, so I've been sharing
    selected trip reports from the Notes files to share with them about our
    destinations and other cruising tips.  Thanks to all for your insights!
    
    If anyone happens to be sailing that same date, let me know and we'll
    meet for a Digital toast!
    
    Shelley Goff @PDO
    
472.8Trip Report - Festivale 4/22/94SOLANA::GOFF_SHFri May 20 1994 18:18147
    Ah, to be sitting on Coki Beach in St. Thomas drinking a Red-stripe
    beer and gazing at the incredible turquoise water...oh no, back to
    reality!
    
    Our April 22, 1994 cruise on the Festivale was a blast!  Cruising with
    your best friends enhances an already wonderful way to vacation - the
    party never ends!!  I'll try to summarize our highlights in the
    following trip report.
    
    CARNIVAL & THE FESTIVALE:
    Although an older ship, the Festivale certainly exceeded my
    expectations.  Very well maintained, clean and polished.  The decor is
    somewhat dated, but it didn't detract from our enjoyment.  The rooms
    are typical of older cruise ships - functional but not fancy.  We had
    an outside room on "Upper" deck which was very conveniently located mid
    ship near the Pursers lobby and Dining Room.  We felt very little sway
    (also had pretty smooth seas the whole trip) and I'd recommend a
    similar location for those prone to motion sickness.  A number of our
    friends had lower level inside cabins at the front of the ship and they
    rolled-around a bit more.  They also woke up very early every morning
    we were in port, as all the ropes, anchors, etc. were operated above
    them!  
    
    Some of our favorite areas on ship were the Lido deck(s) with fairly
    good sized sunning areas around 2 small pools "dip-size".  We didn't
    have too much trouble getting lounge chairs, but on days at sea it's
    adviseable to send someone out by 9-10 a.m. to stake out a few chairs. 
    People seem to come and go frequently, so you can usually turn up
    chairs.  Our favorite evening hang-out was the Tradewinds lounge.  A
    smallish bar with bamboo chairs and palm trees that featured a great
    husband/wife band.  They played classic rock songs that we all like to
    sing and dance to..."Mustang Sally", "Old-time Rock & Roll',
    "Margaritaville" etc.  If we weren't on the dance floor, we were
    tapping our feet and singing in our chairs.  A fun spot!
    
    The food was of course ample, but not nearly as good as we've had on
    other cruise lines.  Appetizers and soups were usually quite good,
    salads bad, and entrees hit or miss.  Beef dishes were always good,
    some fish outstanding, others lack-luster, and pastas very good.  The
    real disappointment were desserts - most looked better than they
    tasted.  Oh well, maybe that helped keep a few extra pounds off.  We
    certainly had plenty to eat!  And the best thing is, if a dish was
    served that you didn't like, all you had to do was say so, and another
    meal was quickly brought to you.  Our service was terrific - our busboy
    Omar had a smile that stretched from ear to ear, and we had a great
    time joking around with the head waiter.
    
    This itinerary has lots of days in port, but there were still plenty of
    on-board activities.  There didn't seem to be a big push by the staff
    though to get passengers to attend activites.  I'd heard Carnival was a
    party atmosphere, but I think that may just be a reflection of the
    younger crowd that frequents their ships.  The activities were not much
    different than those we participated in on NCL.  There was a masquerade
    night, but it wasn't hyped by staff in advance.  Two of our group won
    first prize for their Wayne and Garth costumes, but it wasn't too
    difficult with only two other contestents!  They had a great time
    acting out their parts all evening on the dance floor and with other
    passengers though!  Evening entertainment ranged from great to tacky. 
    We were disappointed with the stage shows on formal night - a little
    too "Disney World."  But there were terrific calypso bands, dancing,
    contests, comedians, and parties.  To make your drinking dollars go
    farther, be sure to attend the early evening lounge specials - 2 for 1
    night,
    captain's complimentary cocktail night, guacamole & margarita party
    etc.  But as I said before, when you're with friends, you can make your
    own entertainment just about any time, any where!  The two formal
    nights were very special - all our men in tuxedos and women bejeweled. 
    The first formal night there were only a handful of men in tuxes (this
    had been a full day in port and I think a lot of passengers were
    dragging that night), but the last gala farewell formal night everyone
    seemed to really dress up - about 1/4 of the men had tuxes - great fun!
    
    PORTS & ACTIVITIES:
    
    San Juan - since we were flying from the West Coast on red-eye flights
    (which Delta did a great job of screwing up!) we opted to come in a day
    early and added on a night at the Condado Beach hotel.  A wise choice
    in preventing jet-lag and we had a lot of fun in San Juan on Saturday.
    Sunday mid-day we dropped our luggage at the docks, then went to old
    San Juan, had lunch at Hard-Rock Cafe and then boarded ship around 4:00
    after walking off lunch.  We left port around 10:00 p.m. surrounded by
    lights from other cruise ships, stars twinkling above and a calypso
    band providing dance music - Anchors away!!
    
    St. Thomas - Our favorite of all days!  We hired a taxi van right at
    the ship dock who was at our beck and call all day for $20 each.  We
    spent the morning shopping - most of us bought jewelry and snorkel
    equipment.  Then our friendly cabbie took us back to the ship for lunch
    and we changed to swim gear.  We asked him to take us to a beach with
    good snorkeling that won't be frequented by other cruise ship hoards. 
    He took us to paradise - Coki Beach!!  A small bay near "Coral World"
    where the snorkeling was outstanding, the sandy beach white, the water
    crystal clear and the crowds minimal.  The locals come out and sell you
    a beach chair if you want for $5.00, and they'll serve you cold beer
    and pina coladas.  No Problems, Mon!!!  We saw fish of all shapes,
    sizes and colors while snorkeling - the best we encountered on any
    island.
    
    St. Maarten - Again, we hired a van for the day, shopped in the morning
    and spent the afternoon basking on the beach.  We found shopping in the
    Dutch Phillipsburg pretty comparable to St. Thomas.  Then we went to
    the French side of the island to Orient Beach - the infamous "swimsuits
    optional" attraction.  The beach was beautiful, snorkeling poor,
    sightseeing very interesting!  Some of us crossed "the line" and sunned
    and swam over on the optional side, while others choose to remain on
    the conservative side.  Driving around the island was interesting,
    especially as narrated by our driver, who would pull off the road for
    us to take scenic pictures, and filled us in on all the history.
    
    Dominica - Unfortunately, we were not allowed to Port as scheduled that
    morning.  There was civil unrest on the island because of a new tax
    that had been imposed.  We were disappointed because we had heard the
    Emerald Pool tour in the rain forest is outstanding, and some of the
    group had arranged for a scuba dive.  The cruise line refunded all tour
    monies and gave each passenger a $20 credit to be used aboard ship.  It
    was actually nice to have a day to lounge on deck and play
    shuffleboard after so many days on the go.
    
    Barbados - As mentioned in other notes, the highlight here is taking
    the Bajan Queen Rum Boat tour package!  If you like to drink and party,
    this is the ticket for your day to really tie one on!  We went into the
    city briefly in the morning (to replace travelers checks one of our
    group lost!) but weren't too impressed.  We found the taxi drivers to
    be almost hostile towards us - not fun and cordial like the other
    islands.  We heard from others who toured outside the city that the
    island was beautiful.  But we opted to spend the afternoon on the
    Bajan.  They anchor the boat off a beach and you spend the day diving
    off the third floor diving board into the ocean, or swinging out from
    the side of the ship on a long rope swing then dropping into the water
    (yes, this can be a real experience after a few of their rum punches!!)
    Then as you cruise back to port, the music is kicked up full force and
    the conga line begins.  Non-stop dancing and partying - what a day!
    
    Martinique - The most picturesque of the islands we saw.  After a
    hair-raising cab ride into the town, we wandered through the local
    crafts booths and picked up some tinkets.  Then we took the ferry boat
    across the bay to Baqua Beach.  This was a resort area with manicured
    beaches, straw huts, rental chairs and beautiful waters.  We found some
    good snorkeling here too - swam behind a school of 30 squid - really
    cool!  I would like to have had more time to explore the island - it
    looked very lush.  Guess we'll just have to make another trip back!
    
    I can't say enough about our trip - can you tell?  Our group was
    already making plans for the next cruise before we arrived home!  The
    itinirary is great if you want a lot of ports and activity and we would
    recommend the Festival and Carnival to future cruisers!  Have fun!