Conference 7.286::golf

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    War Bird refers to  a  little  redign  of  the  club sole, not to one
    specific club.  I believe  that  all/most Big Berthas now come with a
    War Bird sole.
    
    Most people who have the right BB love them, I  am sure if you look a
    little in this conference you'll find  such  comments.  Me, I have an
    BB driver without the War Bird that  I  bought  used from an ad here.
    The  seller's reason for giving it up was  he  could  hit  it,  well,
    neither can I.  It's the wrong shaft and  loft  for my swing.  So, my
    personal feedback is that you better make sure you pick up not only a
    club with good recommendations but one that suits your swing/game.
    
    Tavo
    
    P.S.  Anyone  interested  in  a lefthanded BB driver, stiff shaft, 9�
    loft?  good price!

    I have 3 BB Warbirds.  9 deg. driver, 3-wood, and Heaven wood.  They
    are easy to hit and forgiving.  The WB sole plate allows for cleaner
    hit from the rough, etc.  They also have a slightly lower trajectory
    than the previous BB's due to the center being moved up.
    
    Get a stiffer flex than you would normally.  All that being, said, I
    think they are over priced, but I'm worth it.
    

    Oh yeah, prices.  I found some of the best and worst prices at country
    clubs.  Prices varied as much as $35 per club.   Where are you located?
    
    If So. N.H., Pat's Ti-Tech Golf in Manchester has the best prices on
    everything.  Candia Woods has good prices.  Amherst C.C. has some of
    the worst.
    

    
    Nevada Bob's has a wide selection of Calloway W.B. Woods.
    	
       		$159.00  w/ TT Memphis steel
    		$229.00  w/ Graphite (new graphite)
    
      (603) 595-8711
    
    Souhegan Woods G.C also has BB Warbirds at the same price as Nevada
    Bob's. 
    
    	(603) 673-0200
    
    

    
    
    I bought mine at Wayland CC for $209
    they have a great selection and will also 
    let you take a demo out for some practice
    
    
    BS

    I had a 10 degree BB with a regular shaft for a year it went straight
    bet went so high i lost yards on previous drivers, i am very suprised
    that lots of the pros use them but they do so there must be something,
    
    It was also very easy to hit off the fairway which is unusual for a
    driver so even though its 10 degrees i believe its designed for getting
    the ball up in the air.
    
    The Warbird is meant to hit it lower and i am told the shaft has been
    changed.
    
    I tried the BB and it aint for me but most people love em
    
    Joe

    
    	Yes, the 10 degree older model goes very high and I personally
    	lost a surprising amount of distance.
    
    	I picked up the new War Bird 9 degree and it's much better for
    	me.  From what I've heard tho, most of that is because of the
    	new RCH 90 shaft.
    
    	Has anyone played in a foursome where at least one person didn't
    	have a Callaway driver??
    
    	Tom
    

	There's a discussion going on in there right now about the warbird.

	Dave

    I got my Warbird this spring and love it. It added 15 yards to my
    drives. I have the stiff graphite shaft. The shaft has a mid to low
    kick point so tends to give a fairly high shot. You should try both 9
    and 10 degree clubs.
    
    I tried the clubs out at Whirlaway in Methuen. They had 9,10 and 11
    degree, regular and stiff shafts for hitting. They also have Cobra,
    Taylor Made etc. for testing.
    
    I thought I was going to get the Taylor Made before I hit all of them.
    For my swing, the BB was the best. 
    
    So, my suggestion, try several brands multiple times before deciding.
    Then, get the best price you can.
    
    Enjoy.
    
    Tom

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I've just built a set similar in style to the War birds, from Golfsmith.  The
Driver is for sale ($65).  It is 10 degree's, aldila low torque series 2.9 reg.
w/ victory 2000 grips.  I like the way the ball comes off the head of the
5 wood off the rough and fairway... but the driver seems harder for me to
control, though I'm convinced it's due to my club head speed warrants a much
stiffer shaft.  The heads are named Power UP's...

Regards Kevin,
    
    Ps. Send Mail to DNEAST::FREEMAN_KEVI as I don't get to read much any
    more...

    	What about the Warbird putter?  I love putters and own about a
    dozen of them but what can be so special or unique to warrant the price
    tag of $250!!
    					JT

    They are easy to hit and very forgiving...  NOT!!!
    
    Beats me how they can justify their prices, but it's a Callaway. 
    You're going to pay for the name on this one.  If, however, time proves
    that this putter will cut strokes off your game, they'll sell a million
    on 'em.  Until then, the jury's out.
    
    I love my Ping, but it's not always reciprocal...  

    I have seen the Callaway Putter a women friend of mine uses one, its a
    centre shaft style with a rounded heel and toe, very simple but it
    looked good and felt quite good.
    
    However i am a Ping Man, i work on the idea if i cant play i may aswell
    look the part.
    
    Joe

    
    
    If I remember the add it wasn't the 'Warbird Putter' it was called
    the 'Tuttle Putter' and I can't imagine it going for $200, that must
    be a mistake? This was a Hosleless design and it had a similar face
    design to the driver 'kinda oval faced' ?
    
    Bill 

    
    	The Tuttle putter is $99 at Nevada Bobs.  The War Bird putter,
    	from the picture I saw, looks very much like a miniature
    	driver.  Didn't Johnny Miller win at Pebble with the
    	Tuttle model??
    

    Johnny used a Tuttle putter at Pebble.
    
    He also advertises for it.  It looks similar to the driver.
    
    -jr

    A slight digression...
    
    Speaking of putters, I noticed that Nick Price has changed again. 
    Looks to me like he's using a Plop, or something resembling a Plop. 
    Last I checked he was using a Ping and, of course, that famous Zebra
    before then.  Maybe he'll try a Callaway next.
    
    Must be the putter...
    

    Peter baker the chap that putted like a god in the Ryder Cup has
    switched to a Zebra, he used a B60 Ping for years now he changed.
    
    
    John Daly is at it again he has given an interview to the Sun newspaper
    a well known scandal rag in Britain(Alleged)
    
    He says many tour players are on drugs and beta blockers, i have heard
    a whisper that a Euro player has been on Coke for a while but this is
    from a caddy on thhe tour.
    
    Daly is doing very well wowing the crowds with his long driving
    
    Joe

    I get the impression that U.S. golf fans are very tolerant of Daly,
    regardless of his 'antics'.  The guy can only screw it up for himself. 
    Can't say I'm one of his fans.
    
    Putters:  Callaway's Big Bertha WB putter lists for $250 graphite and
    $145 steel shaft.  Geez, I can remember paying $60 for my Ping Pal 2
    and thought that was a bit steep.  Graphite shaft on a putter?  Does it
    REALLY matter?

    	Over $100 extra for the graphite shaft might be due to the 'S'
    curve near the head.  Still, it's an outrageous price.  $145 for the
    steel-shafted version isn't much better.
    		$25 for the head
    		$20 for the shaft and grip
    		$100 for the name
    
    					JT

    Any heel and toe putter will do you , its a question of hitting the
    ball on the up and square.
    A Carbon shaft is used on drivers to combat torque but on a putter how
    much torque can there bee.
    
    As you guys say pay for the name,
    
    MAx Faulkner won the Open in the 50s using a drift wood as a putter
    that is a fact i saw an interview with him.
    
    The Ping Anser has won more majors than any other putter.
    
    Joe

    another note about Callaway irons...
    
    I use irons that are 1inch longer than standard, and the clubs take
    longer to get from a supplier if lengthened at the factory... the
    IGO.com people are saying that they can "plug them" themselevs...
    
    what does this mean and what does it do to the shaft behaviour? anyone
    know?
    
    regards,
    
    	Paul who is in Australia but maybe heading to USA next week, for a 
    week... please clear the snow!

I think it means they add a "plug" at the grip side of shaft. This is an extension to 
the shaft. I would guess the plug has an end that fits inside the shaft and then it is 
glued. And because it is under the grip, you are not supposed to notice any difference.

I have never heard of anyone using this contraption. I hope someone has that can give 
you actual feedback. But in principle if I am going to pay "mucho dinero" for a set of 
clubs like the BB's, then I would like to have an integral shaft. I understand that you 
can't wait until Calloway ships a custom set.

RE: Snow. I am hoping that most of it will melt over the weekend. Today is close to 50 
degrees (8-9 celsius) and tomorrow in the 60's (15-20 celsius).

    g'day,
    
    thanks for the replies.. I did get a reply from the people at igo.com
    (international golf outlet, who I am thinking of buying the clubs from)
    and they said that the shaft would be a little more flexible than
    normal... which they said would increase distance, but it will also
    reduce control....
    
    I think I would prefer to get a single shaft, given the amount of $$$ 
    parting company....
    
    regards,
    	
    Paul.
    
    re: trip to USA.. is now on fro May 6 --> May 11 inclusive.. any chance
    of a game on the Saturday morning?? anywhere near ZKO ??
    
    

    
    [Subj: Callaway -- Broken Shaft RCH90 and the new RCH96 Shafts]
    
    	As an FYI, I recently broke my Warbird 10 degree firm graphite 
    shaft driver just below the point where the shaft enters the clubhead.
    Wayland Country Club replaced it no questions asked. But, just be
    careful hitting these off a mat at the range. Apparently, the graphite
    shafts have trouble with the impact of hitting of a mat. I never
    hit the Warbird that well, but I got the new RCH96 firm shaft and
    I've been hitting much better. The new graphite shafts are worth taking
    a look at if you couldn't hit the RCH90 shafts that well.
    
    							=Paul=

    never,never,never hit off a mat...it's usually on cement or something
    and that doesn't give if you miss hit....hit of grass and use a tee
    for drivers...do you hit off a mat at the golf course?????? 

The RCH90 is the second generation in the RCHseries of shafts, and had a
composite graphite shaft with a boron reinforced tip.  This was an extremely
popular shaft for us, and will continue to perform well for those individuals
who have that shaft in their Big Bertha Woods and Irons.

The RCH96 shaft is our newest shaft, and our most responsive ever.  This
shaft was developed through assigning four different design teams to our four
different flexes (light, regular, firm, and strong) and instructing them to
design a shaft which performs best for that individual swing speed.  We also
took the boron out of the tip, which has created a lightweight, durable shaft
with all the soft feel a graphite shaft can offer.

If there is any additional information you need, please contact us again by
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