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1800.1 | Friday Morning Update. | SWAM2::WANTJE_RA | | Fri Oct 29 1993 13:57 | 27 |
| Some of the fires are still going, but most have been knocked down.
The Santana (Some say Santa Ana - there is a dispute on the origin of
the name) Winds are coming back today for the weekend. This is not
good news for the fires under way and adds to the chance of new ones
starting and the old ones flaring up again. The winds are NOT expected
to be as strong and they were on Wednesday.
There is considerable smoke in the air. Ash is falling all over. I
live 20/25 miles from the nearest fire and near the beach and STILL had
a very noticable covering of ash on the car and outside furniture
Thursday morning and some this morning. It is not a good time to be
outside exerting oneself.
One couse near Sherman Lake is being affected by the fire. I think it
is a private (club) course. This is in southern Ventura County near
the LA county line. Aliso Creek Course in Laguna Beach has also been
affected. I do not believe it was in the path of the fire but it is a
mile or so away from the main fire there. I played there this last
Saturday. It is a short, but VERY narrow 9 hole course in the
wilderness. It is routinly hit with winter floods. It is a very
beautiful course in spite of that with 6 of the 9 holes across the
creek running down the cannyon.
Other than that, I am not aware of anyother courses being affected,
expect for the smoke/ash. This weekend could be different.
Ralph
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1800.2 | hope it rains for you | LARVAE::GARDNER_L | | Mon Nov 01 1993 06:01 | 10 |
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Thanks for the update ralph lets hope its over soon. Sounds like that 9
hole takes some hammer with regular floods. In England we have had
bad weather, non stop rain, so wet you could not light a fag outside,
the 18th fairway at the Belfry (scence of Ryder cup) was completly
flooded.
Best of luck
Leigh
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1800.3 | exit | SWAM2::WANTJE_RA | | Mon Nov 01 1993 14:34 | 14 |
| Leigh,
A number of fires are still going, but danager/threat to populated
areas has reduced some. Smoke and ash is pretty much cleared up, at
least in my area.
A question for you, Leigh or anybody else. Perhaps it is answered
elsewhere, but I have heard that there is a difference between
'American' and 'European' courses. Not a clue what that would be, any
ideas?
Are you headed over this way in the near future?
Ralph
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1800.4 | My opinion, all good, just different | CHRLIE::HUSTON | | Mon Nov 01 1993 15:09 | 22 |
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re difference between Europen/American course
American courses tend to be more "target golf" there is a definite
fairway that is usually surrounded by woods/trees/some obstacle to
give you motivation to hit the fairway
European courses tend to be more links style, more open, with
ugle disgusting (to get out of) bunkers, they are more open in
terms of looking almost field like (no insult implied so don't
read one in :-) )
American course tend to give you a smaller variety of options into the
green, the greens are surrounded by hazards, whereas Europen course
are more open to your shot making mood at the moment and allow you
to run the ball up.
Of course all this is from playing only American course, only in
New England and reading.
--Bob
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1800.5 | | MROA::VARLEY | | Mon Nov 01 1993 15:46 | 18 |
| I respectfully disagree with .4. Many of our "Great" courses (ones by
Ross, Tillinghast, MacKenzie, MacDonald and Raynor) are like the
British "Parkland" courses - Like Sunningdale's Old Course - and not
necessarily "target" in nature. Many of 'em have definite runways up
the front of the greens. Newer courses are a different story...
In Britain, many of the courses were built on "links" terrain - land
created by sandy soil washed from the ocean, or shaped by the action of
surging tides and winds. Regrettably, we build condos on land like that
here. There probably aren't 5 great "links" courses in the whole US,
and even Pebble Beach and Cypress point aren't pure "links," other than
their proximity to the sea.
Another difference is maintenance - In Britain, you bump and run it.
Here, you throw darts, because we water fairways and greens. I like the
British courses, but I like some of ours, too.
__Jack
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1800.6 | its all golf | LARVAE::GARDNER_L | | Tue Nov 02 1993 05:22 | 23 |
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Ralph,
I think .4 and .5 give a pretty good view on the difference between
the US an British courses. Links courses are associated with our
golf as so called "target golf" is with yours.
Jacks discription of links is bang on a story I have is the first time
I played a links course was at Royal North Devon, we got to the course
real early nobody was in site honest my face dropped it was like
looking out over Hackney Marshes, the mist was all around, I could see
no outline of a course, I was ready to go.
By the time I was off a few people had appeared and the mist was away I
could now see a green however standing on the tee I did have to ask if
it was a fairway or a field (sheep were all around), to cut a long
story and many shots short it was one of my best days out, brilliant.
Regarding the vistit, yes I am trying to get over for a holiday in the
next two years a friend has just returned from a 2 week trip to
California and loved it.
Leigh
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1800.7 | Thank You. | SWAM2::WANTJE_RA | | Tue Nov 02 1993 12:00 | 7 |
| Thank you. Now I get a better picture. Both styles appeal to me, the
challange to go from tee to cup is what it is all about.
Let me know how you progress toward your trip over here and I will
arrange some 'target' golf for you.
Ralph
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