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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

1683.0. "Wedge/lobber uses" by METSYS::GAMI (Oversized golf nut) Mon Apr 26 1993 07:42

    Fellow golfers,
    
    Excuse me if this has been covered before.
    ----
    
    I am having problems with the wedge. In particular choosing the correct
    wedge for a particular shot. Chip and run shots are OK, its the ones
    from around 75 yards and shorter that requires a slightly higher
    trajectory that gives me problems.
    
    I have 3 wedges in my bag. Ths standard PW and SW that come with the
    iron set and a 58 degree RAM with very little bounce (3 degree rake), I
    only get it cause it was going cheap. Is this the type of club refered
    to as a lobber ?
    
    Shots from 75 yards in I usually use the SW, but I have this extra
    wedge, and I am not sure when I should be using it. Sometimes I pick
    it up for the sake of it (it looks quite sexy) and tend to fluff the
    shot, usually by taking a massive divot, with the ball only carrying a
    few yards !
    
    On what types of shots should I use this RAM wedge or should I through
    it in the bin ? 
    
    I know the pros usually use the SW for small pitches, what do the rest
    of you use ? I often find the raised leading edge of the SW a little
    scary. This does nothing for my confidence (which is all important).
    The feeling of having the wrong club in your hands before you play the
    shot usually results on disaster.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Raj
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1683.1Try These Two ShotsCTHQ::OCONNORMon Apr 26 1993 10:3318
    Raj
    
    I like to use the lob wedge from bare lies around the green. I play the
    ball back in my stance and make sure that my hands are infront of the
    ball at address. I then make sure that I keep my left wrist firm
    throughout the stroke while keeping my head absolutley still.
    I use it for another shot also. The lob shot, of course. This one takes
    a lot of practice. The key is that you must take a long and very slow
    takeaway and let the club slide under the ball and pop it up. The
    downswing (slow, also) should feel as if the club is falling by itself,
    being pulled by gravity. The hands should grip the club very lightly.
    You can practice this one in the yard. Pick a small shrub, drop a ball
    two feet in front of it and pop it over the shrub and have it land
    within two feet of the other side. Once you get the knack of this you
    can vary the length of the swing and change the ball position to get
    slightly different types of results. Let us know how you make out.
    
    Rich
1683.2ThanksMETSYS::GAMIOversized golf nutMon Apr 26 1993 14:097
    Thanks for the good advice, I think my main problem was I was using
    this lobber for the wrong shots. Its looks so good that I cant help
    picking it from my bag and using it !
    
    Now that I know i'll control myself.
    
    Raj
1683.3Too many choices = confusion.WOTVAX::MORRISONWed Apr 28 1993 13:5149
IMHO three wedges is two too many to chose from.  The key to the 
short game for me, is to be be consistent.  Hit every shot with 
the same club, so that you can generate a feel for the club and 
the shot.  If you are having difficulty from 75 yards and in, 
then I would ignore two of the wedges, and concentrate on getting 
one to work.  It doesn't matter which one you use, just keep 
using it.

75 yards is a long way to hit a 58 degree wedge.  That is almost 
a full shot, even for the big hitting pro's.  If it goes much 
further than that, then I would suggest that you are hooding the 
club, and turning it into a 9 or even 8 iron.  I have a friend 
who proudly claims that he can hit his Titleist 60 degree wedge 
130 yards.  This is wrong.  These clubs are designed for accuracy 
and should be played with a slow smooth delibrate swing.

Once you are consistant with "A" wedge, then experiment with the 
other two.  I'm sure you know this, but the PW will go low and 
run, the SW will go high and dribble,and the 58 degree wedge will 
go orbital and stick.  The choice of club, once you have 
developed a feel, is dependant on the terrain between you and the 
flag.  The more obstacles, the higher the loft on th club.

To me the art of good wedge play is to keep the same distance 
between your forearms during address, backswing and 
follow-through i.e. the V formed by your hands, wrists and 
forearms at address should be maintained through-out.  Don't let 
the wrists cross over on the down swing and follow through.  
Cross over only occurs where you need power.  If you need to 
power a wedge, then you have chosen the wrong club.

One final thought on wedge play.  You are 20 yards from the flag, 
and there is a bunker between you and the green.  The flag is 6 
feet into the green.  What do you do ?   Panic ?  No.  THE 
DELAYED TAKE-AWAY.  This is the only time you should do this.  
Address the ball as before.  Instead of the normal one piece 
take-away, start the backswing with the hands, leaving the club 
head behind.  Do your normal backswing and follow-through, and 
hey presto the ball will shoot a mile in the air and stop 
absolutely dead on the green.  The first time I was shown this, I 
couldn't believe it.  Watch the PRO's, they all do it and boy 
does it work.  The delayed takeaway.  Many people would pay 
thousands of dollars for that advice.  You heard it first in the 
Golf notes conference.

Randall ;-)


1683.4Worth some practice and a try.CTHQ::OCONNORWed Apr 28 1993 16:296
    Randall
    
    Thanks, I will practice this shot then try it out when playing. I
    report on the results later on.
    
    Rich
1683.5UpdateMETSYS::GAMIOversized golf nutTue Jun 15 1993 06:3323
    Re: .3 -< Too many choices = confusion. >-
    
    Thanks for the good advice there. As a result I have made the following
    changes to my bag/game.
    
    1. Scraped the RAM 58 degree wedge (no bounce) for a Cleveland short
       pitch wedge 58 degree (medium-high bounce).
    
    2. Use the PW for full/three-quarter shots only.
    
    3. Use the SW for full/three-quarter shots only.
    
    4. Anything under ~60 yard pitches (including bunkers) use the
       Cleveland short wedge.
    
    I have now played around 4 rounds (+ practise) with this system and my
    short game has really improved. I am much more confident with this
    system. As a result I am now playing to my handicap of 20. I also
    suspect chipping in the garden most evenings has added to my feel for
    the Cleveland short wedge.
    
    Raj