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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

1551.0. ""British Open 1992"" by KURMA::DMILNE (Let Mi Oot.) Tue Jul 14 1992 01:47

    Who are all the tips to win the British Open.
    
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1551.1Faldo to win...MADBAS::DSMITHONE THOMAS BROLIN...Tue Jul 14 1992 06:257
    
    
     I think we'll see a British winner this year with Faldo, Woosnam and
    Montgomerie all in good form. Should see a strong showing from the
    Aussies again, especially Parry who's in with a good shout.
    
    Danny...
1551.2A European to winWOTVAX::MORRISONTue Jul 14 1992 09:3320
It's clear from the qualifying rounds, that a European will win 
the British Open, Crenshaw 80, Michaelson 79.  The Americans 
don't have the style, flair nor experience to master the 
subtleties of Scottish golf at its best.  I think the Americans 
have gone soft, playing all their golf on beautifully manicured 
fairways, perfect weather conditions, and seriously watered 
greens to give them bite.

With the tight greens, horrendous rough and hopefully strong 
winds at Muirfield, a European will blow away all the opposition.  
My money is on either Montgomerie - because he was born and bred 
on windy Scottish links courses, but may not have the nerve to 
win a big competition, or Faldo - because by far he is the best 
striker of a golf ball in the world, and Muirfield's greens are 
far superior to Lytham's of last year.

Being a Scot, I've a great desire for Sandy Lyle to win, but ...

Randall
1551.3What the..DEVMKO::BLAISDELLKeep an even keelTue Jul 14 1992 09:362
    
      Hoo boy, here we go again...........
1551.4ya.. sure Randall!INDEV1::GSMITHI need two of everythingTue Jul 14 1992 09:3611
    
    Randall...
    
    	Did you happen to catch the US Open? Watch the final round again
    	if you have it on tape.
    
    	.. oh I get it... your just trying to put some life into this
    	note... 
    
    		Smitty
    
1551.5Where have YOU been?GVAADG::RITCHIEA Load of Old CobolersTue Jul 14 1992 09:4410
>...With the tight greens, horrendous rough and hopefully strong 
>winds ...

Sounds like Pebble Beach in June!

>a European will blow away all the opposition.  

Now what was that Scotsman's name? ah yes, Tom McKite.

Andrew (Scot in exile).
1551.6My 2� worthNACAD::NISKALATake me out to the ballgame...Tue Jul 14 1992 09:468
    	Scores in practice rounds don't mean diddly-squat. The players
    are trying different things on how to deal with the wind, the best
    way to play the hole, etc. Granted the US players are spoiled with
    the perfect manicuring of courses and a European is better suited
    for the conditions of Muirfield. but anything can happen. 
    	If I had to put money on anyone, it would have to be Faldo, but
    the Watsons, Couples, Crenshaws, and Kites do have a bit of experience
    in British Opens.
1551.7The winner is...SIOG::CAHILLTue Jul 14 1992 09:4813
    Its simple...

    This years Open champion will be the player who is most accurate off
    the tee but also has the ability to play good recovery shots from
    awkward lies off the fairway, can cope with the undulating links
    fairways and lightening fast greens and has the ability to maintain
    these skills when faced with 30 mph+ winds and maybe the odd spot of
    rain thrown in.
    
    I think that clears it up, don't you ?  8-)
    
    Martin.
1551.8Not patriotic, just sensible :-) :-)MADBAS::DSMITHONE THOMAS BROLIN...Tue Jul 14 1992 09:5219
    
    
    re last
    
           I don't quite know what your getting at. Having watched the
    final round of the US Open, most of the American players really
    struggled in the windy conditions. Granted, Tom Kite played a fantastic
    round of golf and deserved his win. Jeff Sluman and one or two others
    had good scores, but on the whole, the Yanks struggled. Monty did well
    to finish 3rd, Faldo and Woosnam played very average golf yet both
    finished high on the leader board.
    
          My reason for picking a Euro winner at the Open this year is 
    that Faldo is playing some great golf from tee to green just now, once
    he starts holeing putts he'll be there. Also, it's a links course which
    does not suit the Americans, especially if the wind blows. Finally,
    there doesn't seem to be any American "burning" it up just now.
    
     Danny.
1551.9SQGUK::NOCKDeleted, but not readTue Jul 14 1992 09:5616
    He must have been trying to wind people up...
    
    Let's face it, Crenshaw and Michaelson would hardly be most Americans'
    first choice picks if they were looking for a home winner. As someone
    pointed out, Kite won on VERY hard greens at Pebble Beach. I wouldn't
    rule out a USGA tour winner.
    
    As for Colin Montgomerie, I read something recently that suggested he
    was a bit of a 'Born Again Scot' - far from being born and bred on the
    Scottish links, he's a Yorkshireman and he's played amateur golf for
    England.
    
    "Tight greens, horrendous rough" sounds like the US Open, and when did
    we last win that?
    
    Predictions? I haven't a clue...
1551.10Where will they be?LARVAE::HOPE_MURRAYWorn to be boiledTue Jul 14 1992 10:2535
Rather than just a tip but it was fun trying to position them
the following is a list of some of the top golfers and where I
guess they might finish

Stewart		MC
Daly		MC
Ballesteros	MC
Beck		Top 30
Woosnam		Top 30
Kite		Top 30
Cook		Top 30
O'Meara		Top 30
Forsbrand	Top 20
Olazabal	Top 20
Couples		Top 20
Montgomerie	Top 15
Faldo		Top 15
Langer		Top 15
Price		Top 15
Azinger		Top 10
Calcavechia	Top 10
Love		Top 10
Watson		Top 10
Pavin		Top  5
Lyle		Top  5
Norman		Top  5

2 relative unknowns will be in the top 5: one of which will be European 
(Gary Evans or Jamie Spence) and one Australian (Peter O'Malley or Mike
Harwood).



And Sandy Lyle will take his 3rd Major on Sunday

1551.111-5 .. very interchangeableGIMP77::MACAULAYTue Jul 14 1992 11:249
1.Tom Kite
2.Sandy Lyle
3.Colin Montgomerie
4.Greg Norman
5.Nick Faldo

That's how I see-em folks!

Steve
1551.12Go Sandy!CPDW::LACAIRETue Jul 14 1992 11:3812
    
    
      Jose Ollie is due. He may well win, it *will* be a European... 
     
      I will be rooting for Sandy Lyle.
    
      Fred Couples top US finisher.
    
    Looking forward to it,
    -S.
    
       
1551.13Time zone differences mean a lotWOTVAX::MORRISONTue Jul 14 1992 11:4233
(When I read this note at 9:00 this morning (GMT), there was one 
reply.  I come back from lunch, and there are loads.)

However,  I'll take back part of what I said previously.  There 
is clearly a lot of wind in America, but it appears to be mostly 
hot air.

Yes, I did watch the US Open, and all credit to Tom Kite.  He did 
a fantastic job in keeping his nerve, when everyone else fell 
away.  I wouldn't say that Tom won the US Open, I would say that 
other Americans couldn't cope with the conditions and lost it.  
Colin Montgomerie is not known as a strong finisher, he merely 
plods along but still almost managed to win it.  To win a major 
on such a high score is ridiculous.  

Two things about the US Open suggest that a European will win.  
Firstly, Peeble Beach was set up like a Scottish Links course, 
and really no American showed any great ability to cope.  Faldo, 
Woosnam et al played reasonable golf, and almost won it.  
Secondly, traditionally the USPGA have deliberately restricted 
the number of overseas competitors from entering the tournament, 
hence increasing the likelihood of a home winner.  If more 
"foreign" golfers had been allowed to compete, who knows what 
would have happened.  At least the competitors in the British 
Open are there on merit - play well and you're in.

I still stand by what I said in the original reply.  There hasn't 
been any other viable suggestions so far.  A European to win.

Randall

BTW Freddie didn't start to win until he started using Scottish 
designed and manufactured clubs - Lynx.
1551.14NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOTue Jul 14 1992 13:2110
    Top five but not in any particular order - 
    
    IBF
    Seve
    Shark
    Floyd
    Couples
    (Woosie as an alternate)
    
    SCD
1551.15subjective analysis, no emotion, no patriotismDEVMKO::BLAISDELLKeep an even keelTue Jul 14 1992 13:3824
     Common sense and logic dictates that the winner of the British Open at
    Muirfield will be able to:

           1)  Hit the ball an extremely long way.
 
                 Ballesteros, Woosnam, Olazabal, Norman, Couples, 
                 Lyle, Love III, Azinger

           2)  Control the ball in tough winds and play the bump and run.  

                 Woosnam, Olazabal, Lyle, Azinger

           3)  Putt consistently well for all four rounds.

                 Olazabal


       By process of elimination Olazabal will win. But who says logic and
      common sense has anything to do with golf?  Look for Sluman of the
      US to win.  8^}

 -rick
    
1551.16lots of emotionODIXIE::RHARRISbowhunters release at the right timeTue Jul 14 1992 14:1922
    re.13
    
    "hot air"- Could you please elaborate on that statement before I
    share my response to it.
    
    Tom Kite didn't win the open-  What do you call getting a check and a
    trophy.
    
    Faldo and Woosnam almost won- Almost doesn't count!
    
    I hope an american wins the open.  But of course, the person who is
    on top of his game, and plays proper course management for his game
    will win.
    
    In my humble opinion, I get tired of down playing the american players
    when they WIN, and the glorification of euro players when they ALMOST
    win.  Not trying to start anything, but I think it has already been
    going on.
    
    fwiw,
    bob
    
1551.17"Go on Big Man"KIRKTN::DMILNELet Mi Oot.Tue Jul 14 1992 16:3021
    Top Five. 
    
    1. Faldo.
    2. Langer.
    3. Ollie.
    4. Woosnam.
    5. Daly.
    
    No one has even mentioned John Daly yet,I'm not one of his biggest fans
    but he must be in with some sort of a chance.I read an article in the
    newspapers saying that he was here only to learn.He stated that he was
    playing pretty well and not drinking to much.He was asked what he would
    do if  it gets really windy,his reply was " aim 70 yards left or right hit
    it and hope it lands somewhere on this planet.
    This is the kind of attitude that wins tournaments....anybody remember
    Ballesteros car park king.
    
    
    Sandy Lyle might just sneak in and upstage everybody.....
    
    Dav....
1551.18ZingerUSPMLO::DESROCHERSTue Jul 14 1992 16:477
    
    	Anyone who hits it high has no chance.  
    
    	Azinger - he hits that 1/2 punch, knock down shot.
    
    	But I want Tom Watson (who hits it friggin' high)
    
1551.19Imagine being mistaken for an Englishman !!AYOV10::CAIRNSBlue Period ...... Black ComedyWed Jul 15 1992 04:0116
    
    re .9
    
    Colin Montgomerie being a 'Yorkshireman' and playing Golf for England 
    
    Most, most, most definately note. He was born and bred in Troon which
    is only about 10 miles from the Ayr Plant, played all levels of golf
    for Scotland, and his father is secretary of 'Royal Troon', where he
    can be seen around the town occasionally.
    
    A definate case of mistaken identity.......or worse than that slander
    :-)
    
    Walker
    
     
1551.20MADBAS::DREESthe black & white machineWed Jul 15 1992 04:0622
    
    I'm getting a wee bit fed up with this continual "were better than you"
    crap. European golf has finally broken the American stranglehold on 
    majors but I would not say we were the dominate force. For anyone to
    say Tom Kite did not *WIN* the US Open is nonsense. His performance in
    the final round was awesome, he deserved his victory.
    
    Lets all please try to remember golf is now a world game dominated by
    no country.
    
    To emphasis that fact my 3 picks are a Brit, an Aussie and a Yank.
    
    1. Faldo - for me No1 in the world and playing exceptional golf at the
               moment. If he putts well he could win by 4 or 5 shots.
    
    2. Baker Finch - desperate to emulate Peter Thomson and successfully
                     defend his title.
    
    3. Azinger - Overdue a major and after his bogey,bogey finish last time
                 at Muirfield will be looking to erase that dissapointment. 
    
    Del.
1551.21Nine o'clock the next morningWOTVAX::MORRISONWed Jul 15 1992 05:1761
Hi,

Well, it's now nine o'clock the next morning, and still the 
replies keep coming.  You've guessed it.  Yesterday, I was fairly 
bored, and decided to add a little spice to the notes conference.

To clear up a point from an earlier reply.  As was pointed out 
Colin Montgomerie is a true Scot.  I think you were referring to 
Sandy Lyle, who played all his golf at Hawkstone Park, England.  
He qualifies as a Scot because his father is Scottish.  We're 
such a small and poor country that we will accept almost anyone 
as Scottish.  This is more so in evidence when it comes to 
football, although I believe it is called soccer across the pond.  
Even if your grand parents were Scottish, you can qualify to 
represent your country.

All emotion aside, I still think a European will win.  My money's 
on Nick Faldo, with fairly generous odds of 8-1.  I also have a 
sneaking feeling that a Swede may win.  I'm not saying which one, 
but there are so many around, and they do seem to have a terrific 
repertoire of shots.

Amongst the Americans, I also have money on Freddie Couples, 8-1.  
He is possibly the best striker of a ball I have ever seen in my 
life.  I remember last year at Lytham, word went round that 
"Freddie was opening his shoulders on the practice ground". 
Without a word of a lie, the practice ground at Lytham was 
320-340 yards long.  Freddie was hitting his driver clean out of 
the ground on the carry.

I'm not really anti American golfers.  In fact, it was an 
American golfer who started me off in the game - Jack Nicklaus.  
I remember the incident well.  He was standing on the eighteenth 
tee at St Andrews, needing a par or birdie to win.  Wind against, 
roughly 340 yards.  He picked up his driver, looked at his 
caddie, handed the club back to his caddie, took off his jersey, 
and banged his tee shot through the back of the green.  It was 
awesome.  People always remember the putt Doug Sanders missed in 
that Open, but for me Jack's tee shot was unforgettable.  I was 
only young at the time, but decided there and then to take up the 
game.

Who can forget the 5 victories Tom Watson has had in the Open, 
four of these being recorded in Scotland ?  The tremendous 
head-to-head between Tom and Jack at Turnberry.  I remember 
watching Tom Watson walking off the practice ground at Turnberry, 
and couldn't believe the size of his forearms.  They are 
enormous.

All emotion and jingoism aside, the next few days will be 
absolutely wonderful.  There will be a winnner and lots of 
losers, but one thing is for certain, the game of golf will win.  
Let's hope everyone has a great time; Sandy Lyle shines, John 
Daly impresses the British crowds, and the famous Claret Jug 
remains on British soil.

Randall ( patriotic yes, but essentially a true golf fan)

BTW  I've read loads of notes about Davis Love III.  He's not 
that well known over here, and it will be interesting to see how 
he makes out.
1551.22SQGUK::NOCKDeleted, but not readWed Jul 15 1992 05:419
    It was Montgomerie I (thought I) saw the story about - the story I saw
    was, I think, in 'The Independent' (I'm English by the way - living in
    sunny Reading). I'll check that old pile of newspapers at home - I
    might still have it. The story was probably just a load of old tosh to
    fill some space.
    
    I'm still not going to make a prediction though...
    
    Paul
1551.23Seriously though...SIOG::CAHILLWed Jul 15 1992 07:1230
           
    But seriously...
    
    Nick Faldo - Dosn't seem to have the killer instinct at the moment.
    		 Has had his chances in recent tournaments but failed to
    	   	 take them.
    
    Olazabal   - Anybody remember his last win ??
    
    Norman     - Likewise.
    
    Woosie     - Seems to be regaining some consistency, and his first two
                 rounds with Jack could spur him on.
    
    Couples    - Seems fairly quiet since the Masters.
    
    Kite       - Definitely will arrive thinking he has a good chance.
    
    Montgomerie- The effect of the 7-under-par-for-last-five-holes of
                 O'Malley to snatch last weekends tournament from Colin
    	         remains to be seen.
    
    Having said all that about the 'favourites', I think we could see a
    challenger from the pack. Lyle, McNulty, Strange, Forsbrand, Johnstone,
    Torrance, Watson, Seve could all figure.
    
    So having narrowed it down to those few (!!!), my money would go on
    Woosie for a win and an each-way bet on Curtis.
    
    Martin.
1551.24Langer Wire to WireDPDMAI::VENEZIOPerfect Practice Makes PerfectWed Jul 15 1992 10:4916
    Here's my order of finish:
    
    Langer
    Montgomerie
    Lyle
    Forsbrand
    Faldo
    
    
    Best American finish: Azinger
    
    Don't count out Mark Brooks, he had a few good rounds in the Bealls
    Scottish Open but couldn't wrap it up the last day. Langer has been
    hanging all year. I think he breaks thru.
    
    Ken
1551.25Odds and TV pleaseDPDMAI::VENEZIOPerfect Practice Makes PerfectWed Jul 15 1992 10:516
    I know there are a few Pounds bet on golf across the pond. It would
    nice for someone to post the betting odds on the notable players.
    
    Also can someone post the TV coverage. My VCR will need a workout.
    
    Ken 
1551.26KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Wed Jul 15 1992 14:187
    I read a article on Daly today in the Boston Herald. At the open they
    raised the net to 18' just for Daly. The net is 280 yds from the tee
    area. Daly is clearing the net and hitting balls into the 8th fairway.
    He's got a new driver that's supposedly gives him a extra 20 yds then
    his older one.
    
    Mike
1551.27Faxon had a few good rounds last yearAKOCOA::BREENBill Breen Ako2-3 244-7984Wed Jul 15 1992 17:1110
    Chip Beck is a name missing.  I like the Langer pick and any Aussie
    including Norman who looks more like his old self.
    
    Europe/America dominance seems to reverse every few years with the
    "Yanks" back on top temporarily.  Are the Swedes going to do to golf
    what they did for awhile in tennis in the 80s?
    
    Rick for this one I ;am going to replace Bill Andrade with his RI buddy
    Brad Faxon - any newenglander must be able to play in wind
    
1551.28Betting odds.WOTVAX::MORRISONThu Jul 16 1992 05:2526
re: .-3,

Here are the odds I was quoted for the British Open.  I've got 
�10 on Faldo and �10 on Couples, although I believe Faldo has now 
shortened to 7-1:-


Faldo        8-1
Couples      8-1
Ballesteros 10-1
Woosnam     12-1
Olazabal    12-1
Langer      14-1
McNulty     16-1
Baker-Finch 16-1
Azinger     18-1
Stewart     18-1
Lyle        18-1
Norman      20-1
Davis Love  25-1
Parry       30-1
Watson      35-1
Montgomerie 50-1
Daly       100-1

1551.29First two days' pairing.WOTVAX::MORRISONThu Jul 16 1992 07:4012

The Open has thrown up some very interesting pairings:

    Langer, Wadkins, Riley -       (my swing is very similar to Lanny)
    Mitchell, Faldo, Parry
    Beck, Nicklaus, Woosnam
    Baker-Finch, Torrance, Daly -  (big hitting contest)
    Floyd, Kite, Price -           (dangerous threesome)
    Couples, Mediate, Montgomerie  (good group to follow)
    Ozaki, Funk, Stewart
    Johnstone, Norman, Olazabal
1551.30PayneWALTA::LENEHANpar-taking in par makingThu Jul 16 1992 08:3910
    
    Hi,
    
    	Before the Open starts today   guess I better make a guess...
    
    
    	I'll go with Payne Stewart  winning in a playoff against Ian
    	Baker-Finch.
    
    	Walta
1551.31KEDZ::J_REIDBart Simpson for GovernorThu Jul 16 1992 08:541
    I pick Olazabal...
1551.32Open latestFUTURS::FLETCHERThu Jul 16 1992 09:1110
    Latest...
    
    Woosie and Faldo -5 still on the course are tied for the lead with
    Janzen and Beck (I think).
    
    Faldo dropped a shot at the 1st going into a fairway bunker.
    
    The way the course is playing -7 or -8 could be possible today.
    
    Nigel
1551.33British Open - Early ScoresESSB::DOWLINGThu Jul 16 1992 10:0311
    Ian Woosnam by 2 from Faldo. Some early scores
    Steve Pate		-6 AFTER 16
    Nick Faldo		-5 AFTER 13
    Ian Woosnam		-5 AFTER 10
    Paul Azinger	-3 AFTER 9
    Tom Watson 		-2 AFTER 10
    Lee Trevino		-2 after 13
    Jack Nicklaus	-1 AFTER 7
    
    Brendan
    
1551.34USPMLO::DESROCHERSThu Jul 16 1992 10:167
    
    	re: early scores
    
    	keep 'em coming !!!  and thanks !!
    
    	Tom
    
1551.35DPDMAI::VENEZIOPerfect Practice Makes PerfectThu Jul 16 1992 10:239
    Update:
    
    Pate -7  F
    Woosie -7 thru 17
    Faldo -6 thru 15
    
    Thats all I can remember from the radio on the way in.
    
    Ken 
1551.36updateWALTA::LENEHANpar-taking in par makingThu Jul 16 1992 13:3830
    
    As of 12:15pm
    
    Ray Floyd  -7  F
    Steve Pate -7  F
    Nick Faldo -6  F
    Ian Woosnam-6  F


	Other Notables

    
    Norman     -2  8
    
    Baker-Finch E  ?
    
    Freddy +1	   ?
    Davis L+1	   ?
    
    Watson +2 	   F
    
    
    Daly +3	   F
    Strange +3	   F
    
    Nicklaus +4
    
    
    
    	A ton of golfers are at -2
1551.37Faldo - "you're the man".WOTVAX::MORRISONTue Jul 21 1992 05:1437
Well, the 1992 British Open has come and gone, and what a climax.  
How on earth Faldo could have kept his nerve over those four 
closing holes, God only knows.  And what a disappointment for 
John Cook.  From looking at a possible eagle to three putting the 
17th - he must feel devastated.

The good news, however is that I am now �400 richer. �50 on Faldo 
at 8-1, was a sound investment, although my other �50 on Freddie 
didn't do so well.  So yesterday, I ordered a set of PING ZINGs 
from my club pro.  After years of playing blades, I've finally 
succumbed to new technology.  I've borrowed PING EYE II's on 
several occasions, and have borrowed the 5 and 9 iron from the 
ZING's, and they are terrific.  Sadly, they appear to be on a 
long lead time here in the UK, but I suppose it will give me all 
winter to break them in.  

So if anyone wants a two year old set of Dunlop Maxfli Australian 
blades, let me know.  They are wonderful clubs, having guided me 
to the club championship last year, the final of the championship 
this year - to be played on August 28th, and the final round of 
the BMW challenge, which I subsequently lost in a card play-off 
to a 22 handicap golfer.

Randall - smiling all the way to the PING factory :-)

BTW in a previous reply, someone mentioned that they had to raise 
the net at the end of the pratice ground when John Daly started 
opening his shoulders with the driver.  Well, seemingly, it was 
Lee Trevino who was encouraging John to play to the crowd.  On 
the Tuesday pratice day, he teased John into blasting the ball 
out of sight.  My mate was in the pratice stand, and very quickly 
caught on to what was happening.  He dashed to the far side of 
the ground and proceeded to pocket 30 Dunlop MD Tour balata's 
before he was politely asked to leave, pockets bulging.  So for 
�5 and a pint of lager, I am now the proud owner of 10 brand new 
balata's, only struck once, but some are definitely mis-shaped.
1551.38Classic LeeTEEUP::MOOKWhere are you between two thoughts?Tue Jul 21 1992 14:488
Speaking of Trevino, did anybody catch what (on Fri. I think) he said while
playing behind Langer?

It seems that Langer has started growing a beard and Lee was on the tee waiting
and waiting.  Finally Lee says "Why in the heck is he waiting?  There's noone
in front of him!  You know when he started his round he was clean shaven!"

Bob who_loves_to_watch_those_early_rounds
1551.39 FALDO WORLD NUMBER 1 ?BAHTAT::WADDLE_CThere's only two Chrissie WaddlesThu Jul 23 1992 11:3620
    
    
    ANY COMMENTS ON THE LAST ROUND OF THE OPEN,
     
    
    IS FALDO THE BEST ALL ROUND GOLFER IN THE WORLD ?
      
    IS "GRIP IT AND RIP IT" DALEY GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY LINKS GOLF ?
    
    WHAT HAPPENED TO FRED COUPLES ?
    
    WILL THE GOLDEN BEAR RETURN NEXT YEAR ?
    
    WHEN WILL AN AMERICAN WIN THE OPEN AGAIN ?
    
    HOPE TO READ YOUR VIEWS ON THESE AND OTHER WORLD GOLF ISSUES
    
    
    
    
1551.40MADBAS::DREESthe black & white machineThu Jul 23 1992 12:1327
    
    Yeah, I'd definately say Faldo was the best all round golfer in the
    world. From tee to green he is without doubt the No1. It's probably as
    well that he has some off days with the putter or he'd be dominating
    golf more than he actually is. To win 5 majors in 5 years is an
    excellent record and I'm sure there is at least 2 or 3 more in him.
    
     John Daly is not good enough to play links golf. He said himself that 
    he can only hit the ball high and play typical American "target " golf. 
    He can't hit the ball low which you need to be able to do when the wind 
    blows and he doesn't have a good enough short game to play the bump and
    run shots necessary to score on links courses.   
    
     Was Fred Couples playing at Muirfield ??? :-) 
    
     I'm sure the Golden Bear will play again in The Open. It might not be
    next year at Royal St Georges but I'm sure he'll want to finish in
    better style than his performance this year. Nicklaus will definately
    be back. 
    
     Who knows when an American will win The Open again. John Cook and
    Steve Pate proved this year that at least some American golfers can
    adapt to links golf. In saying that,if target golf and receptive greens 
    continue to dominate the American Tour, American victories in The Open 
    will be few and far between. 
    
    Del
1551.41need a world league of golfAKOCOA::BREENBill Breen Ako2-3 244-7984Thu Jul 23 1992 13:0119
    Faldo showed the quality possessed by many top Europeans and that is
    determination and iron will.  That I believe more than the differences
    in the courses themselves make it difficult for talented American
    golfers to win.  Possibly confidence is a big factor.
    
    This is not to take away from John Cook at least here because he is a 
    fine competitor and his day will come.
    
    The PGA itself is not condusive(sic?) to developing the type of
    "champion" that Faldo and Woosnam are and Nicklaus , Watson and Trevino
    were.  These Heritage and Kemper etc tournements always have a dozen
    new names a week showing up 15 under par after three rounds making it
    impossible to key on the top names - ie American players tend to play
    against the field until the last 8 holes on Sunday where it may and may
    not come down to individual competition.
    
    Perhaps a world league of golf from Novemeber to early January on
    southern hemisphere or tropical locations subsidized by tv is the
    answer.
1551.42NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOThu Jul 23 1992 17:1719
    1) Keep in mind that John Daly doesn't get paid to hit the ball low and
    use irons off the tees.  His sponsors want him blasting away, making
    the cut and if he is lucky enough to be close so much the better.
    
    2) Freddy folded and I was surprised.  He is usually a good player in
    those conditons.  I think he took too much time off after the Masters
    and lost his rythym.  We'll see how he does in the next few U.S.
    tourneys.  
    
    3) Nicklaus, Love, Couples et al are high hitters...conducive to the
    American Country club golf.  To win at the British Open, they must have
    a swing picture and be able to stay with it for 4 days.  It is possible
    to do this but as we can see, not probable.  
    
    4) The four majors plus the TPC, TOC and the Johnny Walker could be
    considered a "world series".  Let's see who wins or does the best in
    those this year.
    
    SCD