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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
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1381.0. "59" by SOJU::RESIDE (No Parking Except for Bob) Mon Oct 14 1991 10:52

    When Al Geiberger shot 59, did he win the tournament?
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1381.1Poor AlMKNME::DANIELEMon Oct 14 1991 11:061
	I don't know, but I'll bet he didn't win $500,000.00 ...
1381.2can someone list them allCSLALL::WEWINGMon Oct 14 1991 12:044
    does anyone have the list of the all time low scores in
    pga events?  do they also have what par was for the course?
    
    curious?
1381.3KAPTIN::BLEILarry Bleiweiss 297-5408 MR04-2/C15Mon Oct 14 1991 15:1011
>                      <<< Note 1381.1 by MKNME::DANIELE >>>
>                                  -< Poor Al >-
>
>	I don't know, but I'll bet he didn't win $500,000.00 ...
****
	Right! He won $1,000,000.00 and gave half to charity (according to the
	Boston Globe). The tourney was won in a playoff between DA Wybring (SP?)
	and McGee by McGee...



1381.4charity wasn't voluntaryCSLALL::WEWINGMon Oct 14 1991 15:189
    calrification on the $1M
    
    the way i read it, he won $1m, $500K for him and
    $500K for charity of his choice.  it was not his choice
    to give to charity.  it was the way the prize was structured.
    he may be a benevolent guy but don't use the 1/2 mil as
    an example
    
    hack nicklaus
1381.5Al Did Win!CXCAD::ARSENEAUTim ArseneauTue Oct 15 1991 07:594
To answer the question about whether Al Geiberger won the tournament when 
he shot the 59, on this Saturday's golf broadcast they said that he did 
win. What was interesting was that Al won the tournament without shooting 
any scores in the 60's (i.e. he shot 3 rounds in the 70's and his 59).
1381.7Chip BeckMR4DEC::DIAZOctavio, SME InternationalTue Oct 15 1991 18:498
    Re:                     <<< Note 1381.6 by WMOIS::FLEMING_D >>>

Well, I  guess  everybody  knows  that this topic refers to the fact that
Chip Beck had a  59 at the tournament in Las Vegas this past weekend, but
his name hasn't been mentioned  yet.  And he didn't win the tournament (I
think he finished about 3 strokes back).

TD
1381.8no practice round!!LUDWIG::TREMBLAYWed Oct 16 1991 00:369
    The amazing thing to me was that he never played a practice round on
    the Sunset course.  His caddy did all the legwork of scouting the
    place out and it was the first time Beck ever played the course.  Also,
    even though Geiberger was on a more difficult course (Colonial), the
    weather had been real wet and they were playing lift, clean and place.
    Beck played the ball down all day which, to me, makes it a greater
    feat.
                                         JT
    
1381.9Geiberger gets my voteSIOG::OGRADYWed Oct 16 1991 05:2418
    Comparing the two scores is difficult.
    Yes, the fact that Beck hadn't played the course before is astonishing.
    Playing the ball as it lies is important. But I think Geiberger's round
    was the greater because of several factors.
    
    - The next best score that week was a 68. That makes a 9 shot gap which
    must nearly be a record in itself for a pro tourney. I know for sure
    that some 63's were shot on the course that Beck played on, if not
    lower than that.
    
    - The course that Geiberger shot his round was 7200+ yards. Beck's was
    on a 6900+ course. The Geiberger feat was on a course which was rated
    one of the toughest on tour that year despite the 59.
    
    It's a mugs game trying to say which was better. Beck's achievement was
    fantastic.
    
    martin
1381.10Right church, wrong pew??PARITY::DDAVISLong-cool woman in a black dressWed Oct 16 1991 09:309
    Pardon my ignorance, but are y'all talking about the Senior Tourney in Las
    Vegas?  If so, who won? 
    Sunday eve I thought Chip Beck and D.A. W(sp?) were tied, am I in the
    wrong note???
    
    -Dotti.
    
    	
    
1381.11MKNME::DANIELEWed Oct 16 1991 10:3319
>    Sunday eve I thought Chip Beck and D.A. W(sp?) were tied, am I in the
>    wrong note???
    
	I don't know if you're in the wrong note or not ;)

	But .3 had it right, Andrew Magee defeated D.A. Wybring in sudden
	death.

	Re which was better?  I'm in awe of someone who can shoot 13 birdies
	and 5 pars even at Green Meadow, let alone a tour event.
	But there were a dozen players -28 for 5 days at this course.  It 
	obviously wasn't very challenging to the pros.  Geiberger's 59 seems
	more impressive.

	How about the choking Walrus, eh?  Poised at -26 starting Sunday,
	he throws up a nifty 75.  Rumor has it there were many helicopter 
	sightings around his group...	
    

1381.12I knew that!PARITY::DDAVISLong-cool woman in a black dressWed Oct 16 1991 14:124
    Oooops!  I goofed again .... I meant to say *Andy Magee* and D.A. Wybring. 
    Thank you for setting me straight! #;-)
    
    -Dotti.
1381.13rain, wet grips, darkness...any other excuses?SOJU::RESIDENo Parking Except for BobWed Oct 16 1991 14:484
    
    Re: .6
    
    Love ya baby.  Don't ever change.
1381.14Hey, 59 is 59SAHQ::LIVNGD::LIVENGOODWhat good am IMon Nov 11 1991 13:4312
Both Beck and Geiberger scored amazingly well.  59 is unbelievable whether it is
pick-and-clean or down-and-dirty.   Like many of the folks in earlier replies,
I'd say Geiberger's round as slightly more impressive.   

I'd prefer to throw the pick-and-clean stigma out.  If not, then I'd have to say
that any National League world series champion is better than an American League
world champ because the NL doesn't have the DH.   And I don't always believe that
to be true either.

Hell, add 10 strokes and I'd take it anyday!

Donald