Conference 7.286::golf

    Have you tried a flag tourney or a string tourney? The flag tourney
    works in such a way that you take your full hdcp plus par. i.e. hdcp =
    12 + par 72 = 84. When you have taken your 84th shot, you place a flag
    at the point your 84th shot comes to rest. The player that finishes
    furthest along on the golf course is the winner. This could mean
    playing more than 18 holes and usually does turn out that way. 
    
    Good fun. We have always played these on July 4th and Memorial Day.
    
    The string tourney works along the same lines. You start with a piece
    of string a fixed length according to your hdcp. i.e 18 yards for a 18
    hdcp. This ones a little more difficult to explain. If your 12" from
    the cup, you may cut 12" of string and consider that shot holed. When
    you run out of string, your out of hdcp and would finish the 18 and
    record your score. The player with the lowest gross score would be the
    winner. Of course the same holes true for fairway shots ( out from
    behind a tree, out of a hazard, etc.)
    
    Here's a few. But one final note. This is the pro's job. He's paid to
    come up with keeping the membership interested in golf and promoting
    different competition.
    
    What gives??
    
    Ken

Here's is one of my favorite side games for a foursome.

Monkeye is an excellent putting game to work on curtailing three-putts.
The first guy to three-putt has 1 monkeye on his back.
The second guy to three-putt has 2 monkeyes, 1 for his three putt plus he 
    gets the other guy's monkeye.  (only one guy can have any monkeyes)
The third  guy has 3 monkeyes.
etc.

Now to make it interesting, give each monkeye a $$ value of your choice and
make the guy that has all the monkeyes at the end of the round pay off the 
other players - kind of like a hot-potato/skins game.

You can imagine how the pressure builds on the three and four foot leftovers
towards the end of the round.

Rick

Another fun game for a foursome is called a Rabbit.  Its a more fickle
variation of skins.  Everyone antes up a fixed amount to the pot.  You play
every man for himself (yes, women can play too). 

Starting out the Rabbit is free.  The first person to win a hole has a leg on
the Rabbit.  If someone else wins a hole the Rabbit is free again.  If the same
person wins more holes they get more legs on the Rabbit.  They have to lose the
same number of holes before the Rabbit is free.  Whoever is holding the Rabbit
after 18 wins the pot.

The fun part is watching the rooting interests ebb & flow during the round.
Everyone is your friend until you've got the Rabbit!

					Larry

A good individual practice game for a better player is worst shot.

Yes, this is just the opposite of best shot.  Hit two shots in a row and take 
the worst of the two.  It is excellent concentration practice and is only good
for you if you are playing well.  If you are playing poorly ir is just too 
depressing.  If you're striking the ball solid the game is all mental 
anyway right?

This game really gives you a feel for concentrating.  It teaches you to take
one shot at a time, and gives you practice at quickly "regrouping" as they say
on TV.  Believe it or not the toughest shot to execute is the second shot
after you have hit a very GOOD shot.  It is very similiar to a weight trainer
going for that extra rep after they think they've done all they can.  This is
when you stretch your concentrating abilities.

If you can play this game and score under an extra stroke a hole, or maybe under
twice your normal handicap you have a solid game and can concentrate 
pretty well.

Rick

    
    	A wee bit like the previous reply, except it's different.
    
    		A format which was run by a Greenock golf club is a
    variation on "Greensomes" which was called "Gruesomes".
    
    	We all know that with greensomes all 4 players drive off, then each
    pairing chooses which ball to play for a second shot. The difference
    with "gruesomes" being that your opponents choose which shot is played
    for your second shot. A good scenario here could be, one player's drive
    lands in a burn (lateral water hazard), and the opponents choose that
    ball for the unlucky team to play as their second shot.
    
    	Another variation on a previous reply (the Monkey) is the "Snake".
    A value is agreed on the first tee by all players (maybe �1). The last
    player to three-putt a green is the "Snakey" and he must pay all the
    other players the fee. It can be played by any standard of players and
    a good example is that , if one player three-puts on the first green
    and then no one else three-puts all round, he's the snake and owes the
    money. 
    
    	Just a couple of daft ideas,
    				John A.
    

    Kinda tough to describe, but here goes...

    Players tee off first hole in random order. Player  #1  gets  to
    choose  any of the other players to be his partner on that hole.
    Winning pair gets 1 point apiece, if the pairs draw, nobody gets
    anything.  The  first  player  to tee off also has the option of
    calling "wolf" - meaning he will go it alone. That  player  gets
    two  points  if he wins the hole, and loses 2 points if he draws
    or loses to anybody. On the next hole, the  players  rotate  the
    "honor",  regardless  of how they finished on the previous hole,
    so player #2 tees off first, then #3, #4, and #1. Player #2 gets
    to decide whether to call "wolf".

    At the end, players determine the difference  in  score  between
    each other and pay based on the net difference. For example:

    Player  points
    1       5
    2       3
    3       7
    4       -2      ( called wolf and lost )

    Player 1 owes player 3 3*wager. Player 2 owes player 1  2*wager,
    and  player  3 4*wager. Player 4 owes player 1 7*wager, player 2
    5*wager, and player 3 9*wager.

    To give the poor slobs in last place after 16 a shot  at  losing
    less,  we  usually allow the last place player to decide whether
    to call wolf on 17 and 18.

    Another optional rule is to require each  player  call  wolf  at
    least once per round.

    
    			Captains
    
    This is for 3 players..each player takes 6 holes in which they are
    captain. This can be decided by flip of coin or toss of tees. The
    captain plays against the other 2, match play, and this rotates after
    6 holes. Whoever does better wins...
    
    
    
    

    
    	Survey says...
    
    	Team A is playing Team B in a $2 Nassau.
    
    	Team A is 1 down on the 9th tee so they press.
    
    	Team A wins the 9th hole.
    
    	At that point;
    
    		a) Team A is $2 richer because they not only won
    		   the press but also halved the front.
    
    		or
    
    		b) Team A halved the front and is now 1 up on
    		   the press for the remaining holes
    
    	Please reply with either a or b.
    
    	Thanks!  Tom
    
    	

	- a one down press?? I guess it depends on what you're 
	  used to. We usually only play 2 down presses, but in 
	  this case it probably doesn't matter

	as far as A or B goes, we usually only press the front/back
	side bet, however, if you declare a press for the match, then 
	the match is now pressed....

	soooooo.......as it reads, I would say choice "A". the side 
	ends up even. the overall match is now even. and team "A" has 
	won a $2 press that has ended on the 9th hole.....

	Joe

	The way I understand a press is that you're conceding the existing bet
and starting a new bet for the remainder of the holes.  So, assuming the press
was for the front nine bet, the front would be halved (which it would have been
anyway) and the overall is even.  If the press was for the overall match, team A
would be down $2 but up 1 hole.
					JT

    
    	re: .10 - "If the press was for the overall match"
    
    	That's the whole point of my question.  In all the time I've played
    	nassau's, the press on the 9th was for the front.  It was just
    	understood.
    
    	Tom
    
    
    

re .10

>>The way I understand a press is that you're conceding the existing bet


We don't play conceding (sp?) that bet, it continues on. On many occassions
I have pressed after being 2 down and won three holes in a row to win
the front 9, the press and go 1 up overall......it ain't over til.....

    
    The way I have always played it is that a press
    is like a whole new match starting at the point
    of the press.  The old match is still in tact.
    
    So in the situation presented in 1119.8
    
    Team A is playing Team B in a $2 Nassau.
    Team A is 1 down on the 9th tee so they press.
    Team A wins the 9th hole.
    
    Original Match:
    Front Nine HALVED
    Back  Nine EVEN  (have not started) 
    Overall is EVEN
    
    First Press Match:
    Front Nine WON by A up 1
    Back  Nine EVEN  (have not started)
    Overall A is up 1.
    
    So in answer to the original question both a) and b) are correct.
    Team A has won $2 for the press,  and they halved the front on the 
    original match.  They also are 1 up on the press for the overall (or
    remaining holes).   Given the constraints of how I have played presses
    in the past,  I.E. that it is a new match from the point of the press
    with original match in tact.   In general you must be down 2 to press,
    and sometimes it is mandatory presses at 3 down.  This is customary
    when you may have a match going with someone in another 4-some and
    you really do not know the status of the match at all points.  You
    just match cards in the clubhouse.
    
    Mike
    
    

re .13

so in your scenario, every time I press on the front, I'm pressing
the front 9 match, the back nine match and the overall match?!?!

that could get expensive?!?

Joe

I play matches where a team can press anytime they want after they've
lost a hole. Its ALWAYS for the nine, never 18. Also, we don't always
press for the same amount as the match. Sometimes things get a bit
carried away and a team will press for anything! Its up to the pressed
team to accept or not ... we usually do. The record I've seen is 29
presses.

Example:
	3-3-4  ($3 for the front, $3 for the back, $4 for the total
	greenies and birdies: $1.
        press: $1
        2 birdies on the same hole from the same team: $3
	eagles: $5
	hole-in-one: $25  (I haven't seen this yet!)


"greenies" are closest to the pin on par 3's (on the green). If no one
hits the green its a carry over to the next par three. Some play that
you need to make par on the hole to keep the "greenie" .. we don't.