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1065.1 | Wind It Up | CHEFS::NEWPORTP | | Wed Aug 29 1990 06:36 | 20 |
| Frank,
Nice idea for a topic.
I've had some lessons this year which has resulted in a pretty
roller-coaster type of year for me. However, the one thing my pro
taught me was that the swing is really like winding up the elastic on a
model aeroplane. Create the coil and then let it unwind for maximum
power.
I find that concentrating on keeping my right knee flexed and square,
thus putting some restriction on hip rotation, helps me to get the
shoulders turning more. This means I get a tighter coil at the top which
should just release on the way down.
Well that's the theory anyway!!
Phil.
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1065.2 | | SQGUK::NOCK | No new taxis | Wed Aug 29 1990 08:56 | 20 |
| There was an interesting TV programme a few weeks back in the UK
on the subject of the 'mind game' in golf.
The gist of it was that to focus your mind during the swing, you had to
say "back" out loud at the top of your swing and "hit" as you hit the
ball. The unsusptecting presenter was amazed at the results. I tried it
myself (quietly at risk of being noticed!) and there's definately
something in it!
Like a 'physical' swing key, it focuses the mind - rather than
aimlessly swinging at the ball with a multitude of thoughts running
through your mind. The particular 'psychologist' they had on TV has
been used by the pros - they interviewed David Feherty who uses him in
conjunction with his regular golf coach.
I must admit, the idea is growing on me! For a physical key, I quite
like to concentrate on the first 3-4 inches of the takeaway - I find if
the backswing isn't in the right groove here, it's never going to be.
Paul
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1065.3 | swing key = TARGET... | WOODRO::GORDON | | Wed Aug 29 1990 10:17 | 7 |
| I work on my swing keys on the practice range....then when playing
I think TARGET...TARGET...TARGET...
Muscle Memory is a great thing, but must be grooved on the practice
range...repeated practice then play will eventually pay off IF we
practice the correct fundamentals...unfortunatly we all sometimes
just practice our own bad habits....
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1065.4 | "Low and Slow" | RAYBOK::COOPER | MAD HACKER | Wed Aug 29 1990 16:51 | 5 |
| Lately, the key for me has been "low and slow". If I
start the clubhead back with that thought everything seems
to fall into place.
Mad Hacker
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1065.5 | | PUTTER::WARFIELD | Gone Golfing | Wed Aug 29 1990 18:29 | 14 |
|
My current swing keys are:
1. Make sure my weight is balanced evenly between my two legs.
2. Taking the club back so that the shaft points along the intended
line until it gets to parallel at waist high, then the butt end
points along the intended line until the club reaches parallel
at the top. (This sounds complicated, but is very simple in
practice.)
Those two, that's is. More that 3 swing thoughts and you're dead.
Larry
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1065.6 | I do a lot of things low and slow ! | DNEAST::STEVENS_JIM | | Thu Aug 30 1990 10:29 | 9 |
| I agree with MH..
I've dropped 8 strokes off my handicap in 2 months by basically
thinking low and slow at the take away. (from 29-21)
Jim
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1065.7 | Slow backswing, keep head still and behind the ball, rotate shoulders around my head.. | LEDS::OBRIENR | | Thu Aug 30 1990 11:34 | 0 |
1065.8 | Reeellllaaaaaaxxxxx | DEMSUP::BLAISDELL | Sign up for Challenge Cup 90 | Thu Aug 30 1990 13:05 | 0 |
1065.9 | low and slow with a push | CHRLIE::HUSTON | | Thu Aug 30 1990 13:39 | 15 |
|
I think 2 things,
1) The start of the takeaway, first 10 - 12 inches should be slow, low
and straight.
2) Push the club back with my left hand (I am right handed). This keeps
me from starting to cock the wrists to early and I was also rotating
my wrists around. By pushing back with my left hand (as opposed to
pulling back with my right) this is solved.
Must work, I am hitting off the tee long and straight again.
--Bob
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1065.10 | No swing thoughts, just pre-swing routine. | MSHRMS::GOGUEN | | Thu Aug 30 1990 14:53 | 14 |
| At the moment I have quite a simple routine and swing thoughts;
Prior to the swing I relax....and pick my target.....
again, before the swing, I feel the weight of the club in my hands,
primarily in my right hand.
Then I just swing, no thoughts, just swing.
So far this is working great! 8^)
-Paul
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1065.11 | JUST SWING THE CLUB... | WILKIE::FISK | | Fri Aug 31 1990 15:17 | 16 |
| The thing that's helped me most lately is
"Swing the club, don't hit the ball!"
Have you ever taken four or five (or fifty) PERFECT practice swings to then
walk up to the BALL and have less than satisfactory results?
Once the ball is addressed forget about hitting the ball and just swing the
club (as if it were a practice swing). This is, I realize, more difficult
that it seems - but it works for me.
My job is swinging the club, it's the clubs job to hit the ball!!
Regards,
Owen
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1065.12 | don't stop - firm up front side | SIOUXI::BREEN | | Fri Aug 31 1990 17:32 | 28 |
| I had a chance to get to the range to work on my driving. my short and
long iron game was okay, also my fairway woods - kept slicing
everything but f wood off the tea.
After a lot of balls I found that focusing on my front (right I am a
lefty) leg and making sure that it firmed up before downswing was
important. That way I was pulling the club through just like with the
irons.
The second thing was to hit the ball "off the tee" rather than on the
ground. this is for all me shots too keep from dipping my front
shoulder; somehow we all have a fear that if we don't make contact with
the ground we will swing right over the ball
Finally prior to the swing I need to remember to follow my exact
address and futzxing around routine - can't think of word pros use for
that diddling all pros use just prior to swing - all emphasize that it
must be done - so I am trying now to keep front foot moving slightly
until the last second before taking the club away when of course I
should be stationary.
no need mention the exact method I personanlly use to address ball (get
my alignment since it is unique to me - I cannot seem to use
professionally recommended method
now to try it out at bass river this weekend
bill-who-promises-to-register-gene-real-soon
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1065.13 | Pre-shot routine ! | RAYBOK::COOPER | MAD HACKER | Tue Sep 04 1990 14:17 | 5 |
| Hi Bill,
All that "futzing around" is usually refered to as a
"pre-shot routine". I prefer to call it futzing also though !!
Mad Hacker
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1065.14 | As Cramdon said to Norton | SIOUXI::BREEN | | Tue Sep 04 1990 14:52 | 9 |
| As best and eternally typified by the famous Ed Norton " futzxing"
routine on the old Gleason show.
A fellow from the service from Florida used to say the Gleason was
practically "pro" quality, especially where a $buck was on the table.
Any old Gleason golf stories out there...
bill
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1065.15 | "...hello ball..." | WOODRO::GORDON | | Wed Sep 05 1990 09:23 | 16 |
| re: .14
that was a great routine especially when "NORTON" says
"hello ball..."
Gleason belts him and says what are you doing....
NORTON..."I'm addressing the ball...""
that routine and the abbott and costello routine on baseball..
" who's on first...""
are the two best routines on sports I've ever seen...
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1065.16 | The knees do it.. | USEM::VOUTSELAS | | Wed Sep 05 1990 11:52 | 10 |
| Frank,
you are def on the right track to think"swing around right leg,
start forward action on the set by moving right knee
or both kness towards target, automatically movings hips with
them. The son got me doing this 2 weeks ago and it def works.
For 18 years , I've been thinkings hips, but it's knee drive
that move the hips. Next summer when I have "both arms" I'll expect
to see the dividends!
AV
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1065.17 | Now let's do it on a golf course! | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | Mi ho sbellicato dalle risa. | Fri Sep 07 1990 21:23 | 6 |
| RE -1: Well, at least during practice it's working well for me. Now I
just have to find a way to take it to the course...I'll give it a "live
ammo" test this Sunday. When it's really going well, the swing is
almost effortless.
Frank
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1065.18 | Not quite, but getting closer... | HKFINN::F_MCGOWAN | Mi ho sbellicato dalle risa. | Mon Sep 10 1990 13:44 | 13 |
| Well, to update: the new swing key worked pretty well on the first four
holes Sunday: had realistic par chances on all four, but managed to
putt my way to bogies (once 3-putting, which really hurt). Then the
wheels fell off on #5, my nemesis hole, and I reverted to my "old
self," totally losing my concentration and winding up with a score that
will remain my secret.
Nonetheless, it was encouraging to see that when I did what I was
supposed to do, the method worked. The catastrophe that followed the
events at #5 were purely the result of panic. Maybe it's time for a
session with a sports psychologist!
Frank
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