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1031.1 | My top 5 picks "AT PRESENT"... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom club fitting/club repairs | Wed Jul 25 1990 10:37 | 8 |
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1. Faldo
2. Norman
3. Azinger (who also plays well on any type of course)
4. Stewart
5. Wayne Levi (would not normally pick Wayne, but you said the top
"AT PRESENT") 3 wins in the last 6 or 7 weeks
and a real good showing at the Open
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1031.2 | There's only three.... | LEDS::OBRIENR | | Wed Jul 25 1990 11:33 | 6 |
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1. Faldo
2. Norman
3. Everyone else.
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1031.3 | CURRENTLY | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Waiting for you to come along | Wed Jul 25 1990 13:02 | 9 |
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1. Faldo
2. Stewart
3. Norman
4. Levi
5. (tie) Azinger and Irwin
Beak
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1031.4 | Jose who? | NSG018::STOPERA | | Wed Jul 25 1990 13:52 | 15 |
| Derek,
Jose Marie Olazabal in the top 5, you got to be kidding me, the boy
hasn't done anything worldwide.
My picks
1. Nick "please hit the ball sometime today" Faldo - as much as I hate
to say it, but er,ah well I guess he is....
2. Curtis Strange
3. Payne Stewart
4. The Zinger
5. Fred Couples
Peter
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1031.5 | "Strange choice !!" | AYOV18::DREES | let Burns take it !! | Thu Jul 26 1990 04:58 | 19 |
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Peter,
How can you justify putting Strange before Woosnam ??
Woosnam had a very good U.S Open at Medinah, he then had back
to back victories on the European Tour before finishing in the top
5 in the Open. Remember it's the top 5 players in the world at present
and Strange is certainly not one of those because he hasn't won in over
a year (I think). Granted when Strange won back to back U.S. Open's
he was probably the best in the world but the pressure of trying
to win a third hasn't helped his game and at present he would be
lucky to scrape into the top 10.
Derek
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1031.6 | Ballesteros and Calcaveccia no longer in top 5 | DINSCO::BURKE | Network Management | Thu Jul 26 1990 09:08 | 32 |
| Gene,
If you asked the question a year ago I'm sure Calcaveccia and
Ballesteros would have been on a few lists. I wonder if new family
circumstances have affected their games, that is there is less emphasis on
golf. Seriously...
I remember Bruce Lietzke, a self-proclaimed family man and not known for his
practice habits, said of Seve's planned marriage "maybe now he'll play like
the rest of us..." Supposedly Lietzke's peers on the tour have thought he
was an under-achiever for his talent. Lietzke has said that family
circumstances can significantly influence a tour players ability to win.
For the longest time Seve was single, and he was recognized as the "best"
in the world. I haven't followed Seve that closely, but since he got
married within the last few years it appears that Olazabal, Woosnam and
Faldo have all passed him. He lost an important match to Azinger in the
Ryder Cup last year. Luckily for him, Ken Green and a few others blew up
on the 18th that day. And most recently, he missed the cut at the British
Open. HIS tournament.
Calcaveccia seems to have lost his game, too. Last year he won the British
Open, his daughter was born, and then he took the PGA off. He hasn't won
since. He has had some horrible rounds, so bad that he "couldn't even hit
practice shots" and he walked off at Jack's tournament. Like Seve, he also
missed the cut at the British Open.
Of course, then there is Nicklaus. He is always described as a family man,
and we are all familiar with his 20 majors record.
Jeff
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1031.7 | Not me... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom club fitting/club repairs | Thu Jul 26 1990 09:33 | 8 |
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Hi Jeff,
It wasn't me that asked the question... ;-)
BTW, I agree that home life sure can affect the golf game..
Gene
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1031.8 | please nick hit the ball | NSG018::STOPERA | | Thu Jul 26 1990 09:51 | 7 |
| Derek
According to the sony rankings, it's norman, faldo, jose, and stwert
then mark cal (not sure on the last 2), btw woodsy is one of my
faviorte golfers, but i had to put americans in there to get you going.
peter
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1031.9 | What did he shoot on the last hole? | LABC::MCCLUSKY | | Thu Jul 26 1990 12:33 | 12 |
| Several of the last replys, are talking about extremely short periods
of time for comparing players. Several quote a year or less in making
the comparison. To me the question should then be, "Who is playing
best at this time?", not "Who is the best golfer in the world?" The
way some of the comparisons are being made, at one time the best golfer
in the world was Orville Moody. Or by that same standard you could
argue the Al Geiburger is the greatest of all time for his "59".
Golfers aren't made in a year and it is far too short a time to make
comparisons of relative ability.
Big Mac
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1031.10 | Did I miss something...? | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom club fitting/club repairs | Thu Jul 26 1990 13:15 | 11 |
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RE: .9
Hey Big Mac,
Am I missing something here...? The base note says "name your top
5 golfers in the world AT PRESENT". It doesn't say "who is the best
golfer in the world?"
Regards
Gene
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1031.11 | Big Mac has a point !! | RAYBOK::COOPER | MAD HACKER | Thu Jul 26 1990 13:43 | 21 |
| Hi Gene,
Well, I,m going to have to agree with Big Mac on this one. I
think you have to look at performance for at least 3-4 years and
not just who's hot at the moment or over the last month or so.
I don't think the picks change that much though for me even
taking that into consideration.
Norman
Faldo
Strange
Stewart
Woosnam
I guess if we just went with "Top 5 at the present" it would be
the top 5 from the Open. After all, there were golfers from all
over the world there, so obviously the top 5 finishers are the
top 5 in the world at present ! Easy as pie !!!
Mad Hacker
p.s. were there any rooskies at the Open ?
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1031.12 | :^) | INDEV2::GSMITH | I need two of everything | Thu Jul 26 1990 14:02 | 5 |
| re: -1
You are talking about the US open... right?
Smitty
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1031.13 | | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom club fitting/club repairs | Thu Jul 26 1990 15:25 | 2 |
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I give up...! We are talking two different languages here I guess...!
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1031.14 | I Like Faldo's chances anyday | DPDMAI::VENEZIO | MY other car is a GOLFCART | Thu Jul 26 1990 16:40 | 22 |
| I'll suggest a line from which to measure.
The top five throughout the world since the beginning of this golf
season. Namely this years European Tour, PGA Tour(s), and this years
majors.
My five are:
Faldo Handily
Stewart A distant second
Norman Gamely but short at the finish
Woosnam A closer. One to watch.
Nicklaus/Trevino rationale being they dominated the senior events
and played well in all the majors. ( I know I'll get
some flack over this one)
It was tough to leave out a few like Gamez, and Olazabal but I'll stick
with my 5.
Ken
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1031.15 | "Phoney not Sony" | AYOV18::DREES | let Burns take it !! | Fri Jul 27 1990 09:49 | 9 |
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Is it true the post Open Sony World rankings have been released
and they still have Norman 1st and Faldo 2nd ??
If this is true surely more emphasis must be put on the players
performance in the majors rather than the normal tour events.
Derek.
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1031.16 | Attempt to clarify | LABC::MCCLUSKY | | Fri Jul 27 1990 13:55 | 16 |
| re:.10
I am trying to say that I do not believe that Orville Moody was ever
the best golfer in the world, even at the time he won the Open. He
obviously played better during that week, but I don't think he was the
best golfer, even at "present". My suggestion is that more goes into
"best golfer" than a year of results. Certainly, some of the golfers
mentioned have more than a "year of results", but the Noters were
citing the recent results and seemingly ignoring some of the past
accomplishments and the intangible qualities that go into the "BEST".
The 5 golfers in the world that are playing the best at present, is
different than the 5 best golfers in the world at present. Is my
feeling clarified? Hope it is, Gene.
Big Mac
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1031.17 | "Foldo" no more... | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | Zoot who? | Thu Aug 02 1990 08:03 | 5 |
| Faldo would have to be considered the best "now." The Sony ratings, I
believe, are computed over the past 3 years' performance, so by that
measure, Norman still ranks ahead of Faldo. Maybe someone can be more
informative about what it is the Sony ranking is based on?
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1031.18 | | PUTTER::WARFIELD | Gone Golfing | Thu Aug 02 1990 11:04 | 7 |
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I don't remember the specifics, but the Sony ratings also have an
Asian/Pacfic bias. Norman has accumlated points for events for
events like the Austrailian Open which are weighted more like a
major than the Greater Greensboro open.
Larry
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1031.19 | <MY TOP FIVE> | YUPPY::TUCKEY | | Fri Aug 03 1990 10:43 | 12 |
| My top 5 are
1. FALDO
2. STEWART
3. WOOSY
4. NORMAN
5. OLAZABAL
I would like to put myself there at No 1 but I guess I'll have to
wait my turn.
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1031.20 | Maybe someday | WFOV11::GUGLIELMO_T | | Mon Aug 06 1990 07:24 | 8 |
| 1.Faldo
2.Stewart
3.Gamez(most consistent american this year)
4.Norman
5.Woosnam
Ted Who would just like to be in the top 10000
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1031.21 | I gotta be in the top 50,000,000 | NEWVAX::FS71R | S. Va. District CS Engineers | Tue Aug 07 1990 13:25 | 9 |
| My personal favorites
1. Trevino
2. Norman
3. Irwin
4. Nicklaus
5. Stewart
BG
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1031.22 | SIMPLY THE BEST | PAKORA::RDONNACHIE | AULD MAN FAE THE TOON | Sun Oct 25 1992 17:09 | 7 |
| 1.NICKLAUS
2.BALLAESTEROS
3.FALDO
4.TREVINO
5.NORMAN
ADD UP THE TITLES AND PRIZE MONEY AND TRY TO BEAT THAT
LOT
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1031.23 | imho of course | DEVMKO::BLAISDELL | Rick, dtn 264-5414 | Mon Oct 26 1992 08:01 | 5 |
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Where is Kite, Langer & Floyd? These guys should get consideration over
Norman at least.
-rick
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1031.24 | | NACAD::NISKALA | Takethisjobandloveit,wannakeepworkinghereforsure | Mon Oct 26 1992 08:30 | 1 |
| You could also add a fellow named Player and not lessen the impact!
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1031.25 | y | NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DO | | Fri Oct 30 1992 12:55 | 10 |
| In terms of domination for a period of time and sheer fun to watch I
vote for ...
Johnny Miller
Calvin Peete
Freddy Couples
Greg Norman
Seve Ballesteros
SCD
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1031.26 | | MRKTNG::VARLEY | | Fri Oct 30 1992 14:54 | 10 |
| In no order:
Byron Nelson
Sam Snead
Ben Hogan
Arnold Palmer
Jack Nicklaus
--I liked the way Nelson hit it best of all...
__Jack
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1031.27 | How quickly the memories fade !! | FLYWAY::BELL | | Mon Nov 02 1992 03:02 | 4 |
| Has everyone forgotten Tom Watson ? Doesn't he hold the second biggest
record of Major's won, after Nicklaus ?
Norman
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1031.28 | only the best ever...!!! | TRLIAN::GORDON | | Mon Nov 02 1992 08:34 | 12 |
| re: .26
what no Jones...???
in order...
Ben Hogan
Jack Nicklaus
Bobby Jones
Byron Nelson
Sam Snead
Arnold Palmer
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1031.29 | Top how many? | MR4DEC::TDAVIS | | Mon Nov 02 1992 10:52 | 36 |
| There is no "top 5" Too many too great to pass up.
Certainly:
Nicklaus
Jones
Nelson
Hogan
Harry Vardon
Snead
Walter Hagen
Maybe in that order (although nelson/hogan is a toss-up).
Damn near up there are:
Watson
Player
Travino
Sarezan
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If only they had:
Johnny Miller (kept his head on)
Calvin Peete (started younger and healthier)
Ray Floyd (won a few more close calls--arguably belongs a notch up)
Willie Smith (lived longer)
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Oh, never mind. It's a hopeless enterprise from the start.
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1031.30 | Charisma ?? | NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DO | | Mon Nov 09 1992 15:04 | 7 |
| Sorry,
Never got to see the greats like Jones and Nelson play. As for Watson,
never liked him or his play. He always seemed to have a charisma
by-pass just before a tournament.
SCD
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