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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
Notice:FOR SALE notes in Note 69 please! Intros in note 863 or 61.
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

953.0. "Lefty needs some help" by ESKIMO::JIMENEZ () Fri May 25 1990 06:35

    I'm interested in finding out if there are any lefties out
    there that could give me some pointers on my game. I have 
    played off and on now for about 8 years. I work 3rd shift in
    Hudson and play some of the local courses in cent. Mass. I have
    been stuck in the mid 90's for a while and my best 18 is 87. 
    What do I need to do to improve my game?????????
    
    Thanks,
    Tony
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953.1Lessons?DUGGAN::DIAZTavo, The Latin PutterFri May 25 1990 13:5411
    Re:                      <<< Note 953.0 by ESKIMO::JIMENEZ >>>

    Regardless if  you  are lefty or not (I am), noters here love to help
    (our advice may not do you too much good, but nevertheless we'll give
    it and it's free!),  but you need to give more details about what you
    think is wrong with your game.
    
    In any case, I will advance that most of the advices will send you to
    a pro for lessons, so may already start considering them.
    
    Tavo
953.2Right-Handed vs Left HandedODIXIE::WESTCLGator GolferTue May 29 1990 13:3314
    Two things:
       You can watch right-handed video tapes/broadcasts, etc. by placing a
    mirror in front of the TV to see what it looks like right-handed.
    
       Second, if you are left handed by nature then, by all means, try
    playing right-handed.  Bob Charles, the worlds greatest left-handed
    player is a right-handed person.  Many of the best touring right-handed
    players are left-handed people.  Personally, I'm left handed in every
    thing I do except golf.  I play right-handed, and have a fairly low
    handicap.  Try it.
    
    Good luck.
    
    CW
953.3OopsODIXIE::WESTCLGator GolferTue May 29 1990 13:351
    Oops-  the first sentence of .2 should read "how it looks left-handed".
953.4HERE'S THE PROBLEM!!!ESKIMO::JIMENEZWed May 30 1990 08:0919
    TAVO,
    
    	THE TWO MAIN THINGS THAT ARE WRONG WITH MY GAME IS:
    		1) I CAN'T SEEM TO STOP SLICING THE BALL WITH MY WOODS
    	&       2) WHEN I GET SO CLOSE TO THE GREEN THAT I CAN'T HIT
    		   A FULL WEDGE, I ALWAYS SEEM TO HIT IT TOO HARD OR
       		   TOO SOFT. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A 1/2 OR 3/4
    		   WEDGE IN MY GAME. DO YOU SLOW YOUR SWING DOWN, OR
    		   DO YOU CHOKE FURTHER DOWN ON THE CLUB?
    
    	I WENT OUT FRIDAY TO HILLCREST AND HAD A HARD TIME WITH MY 
        SLICE. WHAT SEEMED TO HELP A LITTLE WAS TO CLOSE MY STANCE AND
        SWING A LITTLE MORE OUTSIDE TO IN. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE
        RIGHT THING TO DO. 
    
    
    	THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY ADVICE ON THIS......
    
        TONY
953.5PRACTICE.....MAMIE::GORDONWed May 30 1990 10:5215
    	a young up and comming pro once asked Ben Hogan how he could
    become as good a golfer as Hogan was....Hogans answer was...
    
    
    	"do you have a shag bag? The young pro answered yes. Hogan replied
    "use it.."
    
    	Now none of us will ever become anything more than "hackers" but if
    your really serious about improving then there are two things that will
    almost always insure that you improve your golf game to the level that
    you are capable of reaching....
    
    	1) take some lessons from a good professional
    
    	2) practice, practice, practice....
953.6Curious from EuropeSQGUK::NOCKHello Mum!Wed May 30 1990 11:087
    ???
    
    What is a 'shag bag'?
    
    Sounds kind of rude...
    
    Paul
953.7Shag BagWALTA::LENEHANRelax... think golfWed May 30 1990 11:2415
    REply -1
    
    	hi Paul,
    
    	A shag bag is a device that carry's a bunch of golf balls, and has
    	a neat/easy way of picking them up. The bag has a tube coming out
    	of it that allows easy passage of golf balls into the bag. The
    	end of the tube has a "picker upper" that you simply place over
    	the ball and push down. Eliminating the back problems you may get
    	bending over to pick up the golf ball. 
    	
    	In the U.S. the term "shag" means to fetch. Like a dog will shag
    	a ball.
    
    	Walta
953.8shag bag == 'woman of the night'????SQGUK::NOCKHello Mum!Wed May 30 1990 11:585
    'Shag' has quite a different meaning in the UK! If it was a dog, then
    another term for it might be 'falling over you leg', if you get my
    drift. Slang for erm, well, you know, nudge, nudge, say no more....
    
    Paul
953.9practice what??MAMIE::GORDONWed May 30 1990 12:023
    re: -1
    
    but paul...that kinda practice may not help your golf game... :^)
953.10Lefties UniteSOFBA1::SULLIVANWed May 30 1990 15:0917
    
     I firmly believe (being a lefty) you should play the good game from
    what ever side feels natural. If natural is left-handed then your 
    decsion is made.
     I too had a tremendous slice. My cure is stated in a previous note.
    
     1) I took lessons from a PGA professional
    
     2) Praticed practided practiced.
    
     Most of my slicing was due to a poor address. This is a problem the 
    post-office can't fix but YOU can.
    
     Take some lessons and enjoy-
    
      - Dave
    
953.11Some tipsSKID::OBRIENok rabbit where&#039;s RockyWed May 30 1990 15:2040
    Reply to .4
    
    >  	THE TWO MAIN THINGS THAT ARE WRONG WITH MY GAME IS:
                                                                      
    >  	        2) WHEN I GET SO CLOSE TO THE GREEN THAT I CAN'T HIT
    >  		   A FULL WEDGE, I ALWAYS SEEM TO HIT IT TOO HARD OR
    >    	   TOO SOFT. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A 1/2 OR 3/4
    >  		   WEDGE IN MY GAME. DO YOU SLOW YOUR SWING DOWN, OR
    >  		   DO YOU CHOKE FURTHER DOWN ON THE CLUB?
    
    The key to hitting less than a full wedge is reducing your full swing
    to a 3/4, 1/2, etc swing.  The method I use is based on the "clock"
    hands.  The ball and club are at 6 O'clock, a half backswing brings the
    club back to 9 O'clock, a little more is 10 O'clock.  When I look at a
    40 yard picth shot, I determine how far to bring back the club on the
    clock and execute the shot.  Other key points: same swing tempo; follow
    through to atleast the oposite side of the clock - if backswing is
    stops at 9 O'clock, follow through should be to atleast 3 O'clock.
    
    Other points that may be helpful on the shorter pitch and chip shots:
     - shorten your grip on the club
     - open your stance 10 to 20 degrees
     - make sure your hands stay AHEAD of the ball at impact
    
    >  	I WENT OUT FRIDAY TO HILLCREST AND HAD A HARD TIME WITH MY 
    >   SLICE. WHAT SEEMED TO HELP A LITTLE WAS TO CLOSE MY STANCE AND
    >   SWING A LITTLE MORE OUTSIDE TO IN. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE
    >   RIGHT THING TO DO. 
    
    Outside to inside promotes a slice.  You want to be swinging inside to
    outside.  Also, make sure you are "releasing" your wrist so the
    clubface comes back to where it started.  I have this problem
    sometimes, I lock my wrist somewhere in the backswing or downswing and
    the clubface cannot come square to the ball at impact.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    
    
    
953.12PUTTER::WARFIELDGone GolfingWed May 30 1990 18:1920
    
    >  	THE TWO MAIN THINGS THAT ARE WRONG WITH MY GAME IS:
                                                                      
    >  	        2) WHEN I GET SO CLOSE TO THE GREEN THAT I CAN'T HIT
    >  		   A FULL WEDGE, I ALWAYS SEEM TO HIT IT TOO HARD OR
    >    	   TOO SOFT. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A 1/2 OR 3/4
    >  		   WEDGE IN MY GAME. DO YOU SLOW YOUR SWING DOWN, OR
    >  		   DO YOU CHOKE FURTHER DOWN ON THE CLUB?
    
	Until you feel comfortable with less than a full wedge shot you
	can also work on positioning your ball on the course so that you
	leave yourself a full shot.  For example if you can't reach that
	par 5 in two, nothing says you have to hit your ball to within 50yds.
	of the green.  Hit less club on your second shot leaving yourself
	a full wedge.  KO described how to hit partial wedges.  I found them
	difficult until this year.  They do require feel & practice.  You
	will have to master them for the times you miss the green and there's
	a trap between you & the green, etc.

	Larry
953.13Practice makes perfect-or close to it!?ESKIMO::JIMENEZThu May 31 1990 06:429
    
    	To all who have replied to my message so far I say thanks.
    Concerning the issue of left or right handed, I pretty much do
    EVERYTHING left handed and that's what I feel most comfortable 
    with so I'll stick with that . Concerning practice, well I could
    do more of that, and I will be - this Friday, so I'm going to try
    some of your suggestions....
    
    	Tony
953.14"Shag" is a Dance!!!FINALY::SCHNEIHCHal Schneider-Something&#039;s FishyThu May 31 1990 14:567
    re. .8
    
    Just a note of interest.  The "Shag" is the State Dance of the State of
    South Carolina.  It's done to beach music.  I guess it's kinda like in
    a dance in Europe, too.  Right!?!  :-)
    
    Hal
953.15Left vs. RightODIXIE::WESTCLGator GolferThu May 31 1990 18:089
    Aren't any of you natural lefties out there that play rightie going to
    support my cause?  I'm telling you, if you're left handed, you should
    try the game from the right side!  And, vice versa.  Oddly enough, I
    can pick up a left handed club and swing it and feel very comfortable
    about it.  But, talk about a slice!!
    
    "Don't knock it if you haven't tried it."
    
    CW
953.16Right is the only way!LABC::MCCLUSKYThu May 31 1990 21:3819
    re:.15 and .0
    Try right handed.  Both my brother and I learned to play baseball
    left-handed, from our left-handed Father.  I am still an expert at
    hitting fungos, infield and outfield with my left-handed stance. 
    I've coached American Legion Baseball for over 25 years, so I've hit
    more than a few balls (all left-handed).  My brother learned to play
    golf first and did it left-handed.  He forced me to play right-handed.
    My brother played every sport other than basketball better than I did.
    He played college football, baseball and basketball.  I played college
    basketball only.  I never lost a round to him in golf (after a
    reasonable learning period).  His widow tells me that it killed him
    he couldn't beat me at golf, since he beat me at everything else(except
    basketball).  Play right-handed, the stakes are high!
    Seriously, the availability of instruction, equipment, experience, etc.
    is readily obtainable for  the right-hander, but always backwards for
    the guy on the wrong side of the ball.  Besides, I get gun shy when I
    see someone down the fairway lining up to hit back at me!
    
    Big Mac the Right-Hander