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| 837.1 | 81 days to tee time | USEM::VOUTSELAS | | Tue Jan 02 1990 14:46 | 10 |
| I guess I don't understand that I swing at 45 degrees , and not
90 , and that these clubs adjust for that?
Are you (some guy) talking about upright rather than flat
swing?? 90 is complete upright and 45 flat ala Ray Floyd.??
Was there anything to drink during this conversation?
The average would then be 67.50??
Happy New year,Angelo
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| 837.2 | | MAMIE::GORDON | | Wed Jan 03 1990 08:41 | 6 |
| wilson introduced the 45 degree concept about three years ago.....
there is nothing really new with this...only a new set of clubs
that use the same principle....
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| 837.3 | Straight form their Advertising Hype | FINALY::SCHNEIHC | Hal Schneider-Something's Fishy | Tue Jan 23 1990 11:08 | 48 |
| The 45% principal has to due with how the club rotates when you hit the
ball off-center. Peripheral weighted clubs are weighted all the way
around the circumference of the club based on the concept that on an
off-centered hit the club face is going to rotate (twist) around an
axis which is 90 degrees to the ground. Wilson claims that the
clubface is going to rotate (twist) around an axis which is parallel to
the shaft of the club which at impact should be ROUGHLY 45 degrees to
the ground. Therefore, they place the majority of the weight in the
upper toe and lower heel. A very crude diagram follows:
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. W | / . //
. |/ <------.------ 45 degree axis assumed by Wilson
. | W . (W equal weight concentrations)
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/ | <- rotation axis assumed for most peripheral weighted clubs
This weighting system supposedly compensates for the off-center hit,
making the club more forgiving. They have done this with thgeir woods
also and done extnesive testing with Iron Byrum. When offsetting the
hit 1/2 inch toward the toe and then 1/2 inch toward the heel, they
compared the Ultra actual landing spots to about six other clubs, all
name brand. I have a video tape of the actual testing. The Ultra did
land closer to the spot where a perfectly hit shot would land than any
of the other clubs usually only 3-5 yards off target.
Keep in mind that this was all advertising hype, and it did'nt appear
that the improvement was as dramatic when they tested the irons. I
must admit that I agree with eth concept in theory.
Incidentally, I am considering buying a set of these clubs. If I do I
will give a complete review later. Set of irons, 3-PW runs $380 at my
pro shop.
Hit 'em straight.
Hal
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| 837.4 | I like them | 39628::ACRAMER | | Thu Jul 12 1990 10:30 | 35 |
| Well, anyone else got a set of these?
I have been using my new set of ULTRAs for a little over a month now
and like them alot. The only trouble I have with them is figuring
out where I'm pointing them since they look so different from my
old (1971 MacGregors) clubs. The progressive offset and the thicker
top line give a different look and the first round I played saw me hit
some weird looking shots. This problem has decreased each time I've
played (only about 5 times) with them.
One of the reasons I got new clubs was the discovery that I needed an
upright lie. I'd been hitting an inordinate amount of half fat shots
that went short and right. My divots were deep at the toe, too.
When I went to a pro shop they determined that I needed the up right
lie to keep from hitting the ground with the toe of the club.
The Ultras I got are 1.5� upright and I haven't hit a short, right, fat
shot yet!
Also my mishits don't seem to be as bad as they used to be, though
they feel bad. I assume that this is the perimeter weighting.
Solid shots feel great. Haven't learned yet to translate the feel into
what I did wrong, yet, since, like the look, the feel is very
different.
My only concern with them is my sudden inability to chip. I seem to
be blading all my chip shots since I got the new clubs. Chipping used
to be a strong point of my game, but, not now. I'm hoping it is just
getting used to the new look and feel and not something inherent in the
clubs.
All in all I'd recommend that anyone interested in a new set give them
a look.
Alan
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| 837.5 | Lower your Handicap by 8 | FINALY::SCHNEIHC | Hal Schneider-Something's Fishy | Sat Jul 14 1990 01:38 | 14 |
| Actually, I did decide to get a set (see earlier note) and I love
them!! In January I was carrying a 25 handicap (we play all year here
in South Carolina). My last handicap card, dated 6/21/90, gives me a
17!!! A month after I bought these clubs I shot my all time personal
best, a 78. Now, I'm not saying it's all in the clubs, but they have
given me alot more confidence in my game. I had to get a flat lie for
my set and chipping was the most difficult to get settled down after I
realized that I needed one less club for almost every shot. I went
from a 7 iron for 150 yds to an 8 iron. The first several rounds I
played, I was overshooting every green.
They ain't cheap, but they were well worth it for me!!
Hal
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| 837.6 | Advice sought | MR1PST::LEARN0::MUTH | | Thu Jul 22 1993 13:19 | 13 |
|
I'm in the market for a set of irons, and was considering the Wilson
Ultra 45's. I've heard some good things about these irons, tried
them (in a net), and added them to my short list (along with the Edge
GS and Ping Eye 2.) I'm also cheap, and want to spend around $40 per
club, so I've been mainly looking at used clubs.
Edwin Watts advertises a set of '92 irons (2-PW) for $369, and I've
seen a set of used '93 Ultras (3-SW + LW) for $400. Are there any
significant changes between the '92s and the '93s? Any
recommendations or warnings?
Bill
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| 837.7 | try the 'factory' | CTHQ::WOODCOCK | | Mon Jul 26 1993 10:13 | 16 |
| Bill,
I've been looking around myself for an iron set. I was in the
"Golf Club Factory" in Framingham (just west of Bennigan's) and think I saw a
replica set of Ping Eye 2's being custom made for about $200. They actually
have several sets which look to be about exact replicas of several brands for
about the same price. I can't remember if the Wilson's were there but it might
be. It appears to be a good deal *if* they are in fact the exact heads minus
the name. I have no idea how good the shaft quality is though. I think there
is also a sale of some sort at the Bayside Expo Center this week which might
be worth checking into.
best regards,
brad...
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