Conference 7.286::golf

    It's been 15 years, but went to a "woods meeting" at the Camel Back
    Inn , and the weather was fine.( End of Dec begining of Jan)
    Outside of Phoenix. The clubs I rented were better than my own!
    
    Several golf courses around. But that was 15 years ago. I loved
    it.                            Ang
    

    Hi Ang
    
      I played there last February and weather was great 75-85 degrees.
    I golfed at Camelback and McCormick Ranch which both have 2 18 hole
    golf courses. You will definitely need tee time. McCormick Ranch
    has Golf Packages if you stay with them. These two courses are
    in Scottsdale which is more expensive than some of the courses in
    Phoenix. In Phoenix I golfed at Cave Creek which is priced reasonable
    but pretty wide open.
    
      Golf Magazine has a list of Golf Courses in the Phoenix/Scottsdale
    area which you might want to locate along with telephone numbers.
    
    Hope this helps
    
    Joe

    I'll be there...
    
    Who is the President of the Phoenix Golf League, or is there one ?
    I think we should get together to discuss long range strategy of
    the Digital golf leagues. We can start on the first hole and possibly
    by the 36th hole we will have ironed out principles, goals and
    strategies..
    
    I believe the DECTECH show is February 12-24...I'll be there for one
    of those two weeks.....Watch out...
    
    Jim
    

    At the present time there is no golf league, either in Phoenix
    Union Hills (PNO) or Tempe (TFO).
    If I can be of any help to anyone coming out for Dectech drop me a
    line.
    
    Regards,
    Harold
    

    Hello, folks, welcome to Phoenix!  The land of 365 days of golf every
    year!
    
    -  Course conditions will be prime in February!
    
    -  The weather will be perfect during DECtech!  You might need a
       sweater or light jacket, depending on how early or late in 
       the day  you play.  But be sure to bring shorts, just in
       case in gets hot.  (It can happen!)
    
    -  The days will begin to lengthen out now and in February you
       just might be able to get in 9 after work at a nearby course.
       (Some courses have special twilight rates)
    
    -  Two things to be aware of:
       1.  Alot of "snow birds" (visitors) are here to play golf
           and tee times may be hard to get; there may be some waiting
           while on the course.
       2.  Rates go up at this time of year.
    
    
    We have some courses fairly close by, some championship, some
    executive.  It will depend on the time you have and your pocketbook.
    I will make it a point to get a guide of Phoenix golf courses and
    leave it at my desk, so while you are here you can check what is 
    available and the costs.
    
    Please read Note 813
    
    These courses are fairly close:
    
    Point Golf Club at Lookout Mtn, 11111 N. 7th Street, (602)
    866-9816
           -slope 71.7, 6,617 yds
           -$64 for 18 (includes cart)
           -Rents clubs $20 per day (70 sets of brand new Titlest)
           -20 minutes away from PNO
    
    
    Cave Creek, 15202 N. 19th Ave, (602)866-8076
           -slope 121, 6876 yds
           -$24.40 (includes cart)
           -Rents clubs $7
           -5 minutes away from PNO
    
    Bellair, 17233 N. 45th Ave, (602)978-0330
           -slope 81, 3600 yds, "Executive Course"
    	   -$13 for 18, carts $14
           -Rents clubs $7
           -10 minutes away from PNO
    
    
    Westbrook Village, 96th Ave & Union Hills, (602)933-0174
           -slope 111, 6500 yds (Private course will take reservations
                                 for public 2 days in advance after 12:00)
           -$40.13 for 18 includes cart
           -Rents clubs $7
           -15 minutes away from PNO
    
    The Legend, 67th Avenue, (602)561-0953
           -slope 129, 6977 yds (Arnold Palmer designed, a real challenge
                                 desert course, in a word "spectacular")
           -$42 for 18 includes cart
           -No club rental
           -15 minutes away from PNO
    
    El Caro, 23rd Avenue and Northern, (602)995-3664
           -slope 73, 3400 yds, Executive Course
           -$15 for 18 cart not included
           -Rents clubs $5
           -20 minutes from PNO
    
    
    Hope this gives you some idea of what is close.  We have lots of
    excellent courses, this is just what is nearby.  Some have driving
    ranges, some do not.  
    
                                        Roberta Reichel
                                        Admin Area at PNO
                                 
    

    
    Hey, what is DECtech about...?
    
    Can somebody from Phoenix enter a little info on the Arizona area
    for me...? Such as...
    
    Do most of the courses have their own driving ranges...?
    
    Are there many ranges that are not associated with courses?
    
    Is miniature golf big in the area?
    
    How much does property go for out there, say a parcel of about 20
    acres in an area of good visibility?
    
    Average cost of housing?
    
    An average cost of renting a house?
    
    Thanks for any info...
    Gene (who_has_had_it_with_cold_winters.....:-{...)

    Gene,
    
    >>     Is miniature golf big in the area?
    
    
    How can something miniature be big?	:-)
    
    					KO

    I'm not from Phoenix, but spent some time out there a couple of
    winters ago, and got in a few rounds. Before I left the snow and
    cold, I asked someone I knew, who was from the area, about local
    public courses. They recommended Papago as the best in the area,
    not counting resort/private courses. I went there a couple of times
    but had no luck getting onto the course: it must be great, since
    there was such a long wait!
    
    I did find a good alternative, in Mesa: Dobson Ranch. Not too long
    a wait, reasonable prices, and a very nice course.
    
    As to driving ranges - they're *everywhere*! Also, keep in mind
    that the local Nevada Bob's has coupon specials every week (or at
    least did when I was there), so you should be able to stock up on
    new golf balls without blowing your budget completely.
    
    Also got to Tucson, and played a public course there: Randolph -
    36 holes, driving range, and, for a small premium, reserved tee
    times.
    
    	Frank
    

    
    Check notes file PNO::PHOENIX
    Good place to stay: Royal Suites, at Cactus rd. and Black Canyon.
    Don't miss the visitor cupons package "Discover Arizona": you'll play
    in two and only one pays. Cost 20$ ( at Valley Nat. Bank ) and the
    first round you save 30-40 bucks. If you have enough time go to play at
    "Gold Canyon Course".
    m

    
    The Phoenix open is on ESPN starting tomorrow.
    ESPN will be carring the coverage through the weekend.
    First time for television coverage.
    A friend just handed me corporate passes, from Xerox. 
    Digital had a tent last year, but budget constraints
    have hit and there will not be a corporate presence
    this year.
    
    Dave