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| 784.1 | it's called masochism | ESPN::BLAISDELL | 5,4,3..nah gimme the driver | Fri Oct 06 1989 16:26 | 14 |
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Yes Gene, and I keep them for the same reason. To find out the
weak areas and to work on them. Pretty easy for me to figure out
the weak area this year. 8^(
Some of the stats I track are;
Total putts, number of 3 putts, % fairways hit off the
tee, greens in regulation, up and down chances, up and down
saves, (greenside) sand chances, sand saves.
I probably would be better off if I didn't do it........
-rick
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| 784.2 | yep, it helps IMHO. | RAVEN1::DANDREA | I shot the Deputy... | Fri Oct 06 1989 16:30 | 13 |
| I've started to make notes on my scorecards about # of putts, greens
in regulation, etc. and I find it helpful. I started doing because
my father (golf mentor, too) asked me one day: "what's the worst
part of your game; what do you need to work on?" I couldn't honestly
answer him, so I started tracking it, and never realized how many
greens I DON'T hit in regulation, as well as a few other glaring
stats that I overlooked. It's funny, I knew that I took alot of
bogies because I missed alot of greens in regulation, but when I
saw the numbers in black and white, it was staggering! I find it
helpful, but I also find it tough to keep up with alot of different
stats while playing with friends.....
Steve
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| 784.3 | Money is the only stat ! | LEVERS::LENEHAN | | Fri Oct 06 1989 17:17 | 4 |
| I keep stats on my checkbook.... +/- whether or not I'll be playing
after work or not ;) .
Walt
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| 784.4 | If you can't reach, you can't.. | HIRISK::FAGERBERG | | Sat Oct 07 1989 10:15 | 9 |
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I'm curious about stats, especially ,greens in regulation. We have
three par four holes (no. 1, 2, 3, and stroke holes) that 400 yard
small green challenges. The slightest amount of wind and they become
impossible for the average golfer to reach in two. When I kept this
particular stat, I found I played beyond myself. Instead of taking
my bogie and ocaisional one-putt par, I'd try to reach in two and
take myself out of the hole. Anyone else find this happening??
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| 784.5 | | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Knocking at your back door... | Mon Oct 09 1989 10:18 | 10 |
| I keep stats as well. Greens in regulation, fairways hit off
the tee and putts per round. I also keep the number of pars and
birds too. I try and use them to show my weak areas, so I can
concentrate on them, but it doesn't always work. 2 years ago, I
saw my biggest weakness, as putting, but the last 2 years it's
definately my tee game. Putts are hard to track too, because if
you're not hitting greens in regulation, you may find yourself with
a lot of short putts from good chips.
Beak
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| 784.6 | Basic stats | DUGGAN::DIAZ | MAKE THEM EASY | Mon Oct 09 1989 10:22 | 11 |
| Occasionally I keep track the following:
Fairways hit
Green in regulation
# putts
After the round I look at the card and figure out where I went wrong/
right. Then I usually discard the card, since I never seem to have
time to do anything with it.
Tavo
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| 784.7 | No risks unless ya HAVE to.... | RAVEN1::DANDREA | I shot the Deputy... | Mon Oct 09 1989 12:27 | 10 |
| RE: .4
Yes!
My game improved immensely when I got smart about high risk shots. If
I'm thinking: "If I get lucky, I'll reach this green in two", then I
back off, take a club that will put me in a "safe" situation, take my
bogey, and make up the stroke somewhere else. As a matter of fact, I
didn't break 90 until I learned this "headset".
Steve
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| 784.8 | What are the stats? | SDEVAX::GRYGLIK | When's our tee time? | Mon Oct 09 1989 12:32 | 16 |
| I probably would keep stats if I understood what the stats all were.
For example, greens in regulation, means hitting the par 5s in three,
4s in two but the par 3s don't count? Also, unless the green was
hit in regulation, putting stats like number of putts don't count?
Also, on a long par 3, 220 yds, you come up short, does it count
as a fairway hit? do par threes count for anything in stats except
birdies, pars, etc?
I would like to see someone post (this is a tall order) the stats that
are kept, what the definition of the stat is, and the
conditions/restrictions on keeping each stat are.
Mike
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| 784.9 | Par threes don't count...? | MSEE::KELLEY | CUSTOM CLUBS make GREAT Christmas gifts | Mon Oct 09 1989 12:48 | 15 |
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Mike,
My thoughts are that when people of our (people noting here) caliber
keep stats on themselves, they take on whatever meaning suits that
person and they can be very general stats or very finite. When I
keep stats for my game a green hit in one shot on a par three is
certainly a green in regulation, number of putts is simply number
of putts. I also keep track of such things as being left or right
of the fairway when I miss the fairway, being left-right-short-long
when I miss a green, sand saves, and of course scores for the hole
and the round...
Gene
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| 784.10 | | OBRIEN::KEVIN | Custom Clubs & Repair | Mon Oct 09 1989 13:35 | 13 |
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I kept a notebook for a couple of years on fairways, greens and putts.
It became real clear to me that hitting fairways was my top priority. At
that time I was about an 18 handicapper. I don't remember the numbers but it
was about 3 fairways, 5 greens and 31 putts. So I worked on the tee ball
but didn't bother with the stats. After a few years I was down to a 9 and
couldn't move from there so back to the stats. It really opened ny eyes. I was
hitting between 9 and 10 fairways (out of 14), 29 to 30 putts but only 2 to 3
greens. This year I'm usually in there with 9 to 10 fairways, 9 or 10 greens
and 35/36 putts. Whew it's no wonder I drink. :-)
KO
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| 784.11 | | ENGINE::PIEL | | Mon Oct 09 1989 13:37 | 16 |
| My stats are :
- # of putts
- total score - total putts
- # of pars, etc.
- # of fairways hit
- # of greens in regulation
- # of three or more putts per round
I found that when comparing year by year performance, it does help
to know how your doing (improving or worsening) and what to work
on. Too many stats can become maddening after a while, but it does
point out weak areas in one's game.
Ken--
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| 784.12 | | EUCLID::WARFIELD | Gone Golfing | Mon Oct 09 1989 13:47 | 26 |
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During a round I keep track of: # of putts, # of short shots
(less than 80 yds. in, picthes, chips, sand shots, etc.),
# of penalty strokes, & number of full shots. With these stats
and your card you can also derive greens in regulation, birds,
pars, etc. I can usually remeber drives in the fairway.
Every couple of rounds I review my cards to see trends. I don't
keep season statistics.
From this I've found:
- Penalty strokes eat you alive. (The original shot, the
penalty & then the recovery.)
- You only need to swing well enough to put the ball in play
out of trouble & keep it there.
- I need to work more on my short game.
For those of you who keep stats on your short game there is
an article in the latest USGA Golf Journal on the average # of
strokes it takes to hole out from various distances.
I thought I keep a lot of info, but some of your lists are quite
long. It must take you forever to fill out your scorecard after
a hole.
Larry
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| 784.13 | one method | ESPN::BLAISDELL | 5,4,3..nah gimme the driver | Mon Oct 09 1989 14:11 | 18 |
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Who needs room on the scorecard? What I do is mentally replay the
round after I've finished and write down the stats in the following
format.
Hole # 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Par 4 4 4 3 4 5 4 3 5 36
Score 4 5 5 4 4 4 4 5 5 40
Fairways F - F F F - - 4/7
Greens G - G - G G - - G 5/9
up&down saves/chances 0/1 0/1 0/1 0/3
sand saves/chances 1/1 1/1
putts 2 2 3 2 2 1 1 3 2 18
The trick is not to wait too long before mentally replaying the
round, especially if you played 18.
-rick
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| 784.14 | the only secret is sound fundamentals... | WOODRO::GORDON | | Tue Oct 10 1989 09:49 | 13 |
| RE: .10
Did the same thing about two years ago and made me aware of
the fact that my iron game was terrible....GIR's was killing me
since then have tried working on it and have found that there is
a direct correlation(?sp) between GIR and score...!!!
every green missed adds at least one to your score...so now when
playing for something I make it top priority to get that GIR if
at all possible....of course all the above is based on the fact
that my fairways hit and puts are 60% / 30-36 range which in my
case they usually are....
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| 784.15 | Just write down which clubs you used | YUPPY::MOSSMAN | A lone mongoose in a world of snakes | Thu Oct 12 1989 12:59 | 23 |
| Last year I tried the following :-
At the end of each hole just write down, on a separate piece of paper,
exactly which CLUB I used for each shot, whether it landed on target or
right/left and if it picked up a penalty (plus of course the number
of putts).
This way I could work out things like GIR at my leisure with the
score card later. It was also useful in helping to ientify the short
putts (usually after a short iron !).
The big benefit was that this was dead simple. I didn"t have to
worry about thinking of stats when I was playing. Even at my handicap
I usually had no more than 6 or 7 shots to remember after each hole and
I got the added advantage of being able to see which type of club
I was more or lees successful than others.
I really must start this again now I am getting down to 5 or 6 shots
per hole !
M.
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| 784.16 | FORECASTING | USEM::VOUTSELAS | | Thu Oct 26 1989 17:23 | 19 |
| I keep stats BEFORE I play.
On an important match, I visulize every shot and every putt
on each hole.
Which holes I bogey, par, "possible birds",
which holes I will not to try and "push around".
Which holes I WILL TRY to push around. I seldom get more
than 1 birdie per round, so par is my target.
It makes for interesting reflections after the round.
I plan even to DB a couple of holes so when it happens
I'm not shocked. It's in the plan. If I do better than
plan, OK. I only do this for 18 hole matches, not in the
DEC league. 9 holes is a quick trip and match play is
different than medal.
Angelo
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