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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

760.0. "Teeing Area" by USEM::VOUTSELAS () Thu Sep 14 1989 13:01

    
    Was playing with a group and someone teed up OUTSIDE the
    markers. The ball itself was outside the markers by 8 ft
    Not behind , but to the right.
    
    I said if this was for cash, it's a penalty. He says
    no way. We were both half right. In stroke play
    it's a two stroke penalty. In match play the oppenent
    can ask another ball be hit WITH NO PENALTY.
    
    It's still hard to believe no penalty in match play.
    Any experiences/comments ?? thanks,Angelo
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760.1CALLME::MR_TOPAZThu Sep 14 1989 13:1413
       re .0:
       
       In match play, the penalty is more subtle.  Suppose I'm playing
       against someone and notice that he's teed the ball outside the
       teeing area (it goes back 2 club lengths from the markers). I can
       wait until he hits the tee shot -- if it's straight and long, I
       can ask him to re-hit; if he duck hooks it into the woods, I say
       nothing.
       
       Of course, I could be a good sport and mention something to
       him before he addresses the ball.
       
       --Mr Topaz
760.2Mr TopazUSEM::VOUTSELASThu Sep 14 1989 14:118
    Mr. Topaz,
          thanks, sounds about right, also if he has hit a good shot
    and you mention the violation, and he hits another shot,
    psycholigically it SHOULD be a worse shot.
             (I thought it was loss of hole in match play, but that
    is severe for a teeing error where basically, he gained no real
    advantage on most teeing areas)    Angelo
760.3"COURSE CARE is REAL CARING"USMFG::TGLASSFri Sep 15 1989 10:3610
    Hi,
    760.1's response clearly denotes why medal is called a mind game
    and medal is you against the courses par!
    Tee boxes are defined also to protect the tee ground from excess
    play damage, so that may be the "reasoning" used to explain the
    ruling or allow your opponent to "stomach" the penalty.
    For sure, teeing between markers and repairing green ball marks
    is just good course etiquette, so a penalty may help both the
    outcome of the match as well as the course condition.
    Tom
760.4AT LEAST HE DUFFS THEM STRAIGHTAYOV28::JMCINTOSHThu Sep 28 1989 07:339
    Hi,
    On a similar theme, we played a foursome tie where our opponent
    from the 2nd tee teed his ball the full 2 club lengths behind the
    markers as he is allowed to do. He then took his swing, hit the
    semi rough behind the tee on his downswing and duffed the ball.
    He just managed to trickle the ball off the tee and it didn't reach
    the markers. My partner then teed his ball between our opponents
    ball and the markers so it was still them to play.