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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
Notice:FOR SALE notes in Note 69 please! Intros in note 863 or 61.
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

742.0. "New course in Litchfield, NH?" by XANADU::CAMPBELL (It's only a CRIME if you get caught!) Tue Aug 29 1989 15:28

    Hello,
    
    Does anyone out there  know anything about the 18 hole course
    being built in Litchfield, NH?  It's on the old rte 3 along the
    river.  Looks like it's almost ready to be opened.
    
    A name? Phone number? Date they will be opening?
    
    Shawn
    
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742.1Litchfield Golf CourseBOOKIE::BARBERTue Aug 29 1989 15:426
    I was told the builder is Stabile, and it is opening Sept. 2. That's
    all I can tell you.....but it's fact.
    
    
    
    
742.2USCTR1::ASTARRFri Sep 01 1989 15:592
    
    
742.3GIAMEM::R_TURNERTue Sep 05 1989 09:204
    I stopped by the course on Sunday. There was a sign stating that
    they will open on Saturday the 9th.
    
    Flags were in and mowing crews out in force, but no sign of golfers.
742.4GIAMEM::R_TURNERMon Sep 11 1989 10:376
    Ads in the Nashua paper state that the "Preview Season" now in effect
    with Grand Opening Spring of 1990.                         
                                                               
    The name is Passaconaway Country Club, Rte 3A, Litchfield, NH, telephone
    (603) 424-6113.
                      
742.5Can't Afford to Play!NECVAX::DOWNINGMon Sep 11 1989 10:5211
    Anyone play the course this weekend.  Is it true the green fees
    are $50!  I was real entusiastic about all the new courses being built
    in the area.  It was supposed to invoke the supply & demmand theory
    providing more courses hopefully leveling off the price of green
    fees or even seeing them drop slightly.  What it looks like now
    is that we will be paying $50-$60 to play the likes of Green Meadow
    & Amherst!  In another 5-10 years we may be in the situation now
    facing Japan golfers, we'll be playing 1 or 2 rounds of golf a year
    and scheduling tee times at the driving range!
                                           
    
742.6Here's the stats.XANADU::CAMPBELLIt's only a CRIME if you get caught!Mon Sep 11 1989 11:3444
    Well, I didn't play, but I checked it out.  I plan on playing this
    weekend.
    
    The green fees are $20 for 18 on weekends and $15 on weekdays.  Cart
    rentals are $20 for weekdays and $18 for weekdays.  They do not have
    prices for 9 holes yet, but the pro mentioned something about returning
    half of what you paid if you only play 9.
    
    Right now they are working out of trailers.  One for thepro shop and
    one for the food stand.
    
    Here is a list of the holes:
    
    Hole        Par        Blue      White      Red
    ------------------------------------------------
      1          4         373       352        306
      2          4         344       327        273
      3          4         412       395        351
      4          3         223       203        144       ( oevr a pond )
      5          5         521       502        409
      6          4         361       348        316
      7          4         340       321        295
      8          4         394       379        322
      9          4         317       307        265
    -------------------------------------------------
                36        3285      3134       2681
    
    
     10          5         561       532        419
     11          3         173       150         95
     12          4         460       424        385
     13          3         196       172        128
     14          5         591       556        418
     15          4         478       454        360
     16          4         473       443        389
     17          3         189       169        132
     18          4         449       428        362
    --------------------------------------------------
                35        3570      3328       2688
    
                71        6855      6462       5369
    
    
    
742.7CALLME::MR_TOPAZMon Sep 11 1989 11:5215
       re .6:
       
       !!!
       
       Gadzooks, the back 9 looks tough.  Even though it's par-35
       (compared to 36 for the front), it's a lot longer:
       
              Average length of holes (white tees)
       
                        Front        Back
                        -----        ----
               Par 4s    347          437
               Par 5s    502          544 
       
       --Mr Topaz
742.8NECVAX::DOWNINGMon Sep 11 1989 18:392
    Are the carts mandatory?  That is probably where I got the number
    of close to $50/round.
742.9Do not need carts.XANADU::CAMPBELLIt's only a CRIME if you get caught!Tue Sep 12 1989 12:529
    Hi,
    
    Carts are not mandatory.  Also, the course is not very hilly, so
    I wouldn't think there would be a big need for a cart.
    
    I'm playing there this weekend.  I'll post a note on how it is, if
    no one else does before then.
    
    Shawn
742.10My ever so humble opinionSA1794::WELLSPEAKKnocking at your back door...Thu Sep 14 1989 08:019
    	I agree with .7, that back 9 looks longer than your average
    PGA tour course!!!  I personnaly don't like the layout, as far as
    distance of holes go.  I wouldn't mind so much, if you had 1 short
    par 4 (300-350 yards), 2 middle distant par 4s (350-390 yards) and
    2 long par 4s (390-470 yards), but having the mostly short to middle
    distant par 4s on the front, and all very long par 4s on the back
    is not, in my opinion, very good design.
    
    Beak
742.11Sounds really interesting...XANADU::CAMPBELLIt's only a CRIME if you get caught!Thu Sep 14 1989 11:3818
    Well I happened to meet up with someone who played the course and he
    said it has it's difficult holes, but most of them are straight and
    forgiving.
    
    He said that the 3 hole, a par 4, is tough.  You need to drive 200+
    yards over weeds and marsh to make the fairway, but if you go too
    far, you're in another marsh.  Then it's another 180-200 yards to
    the green over marsh.
    
    I think I'll take a 10 and save my golf balls on that hole.
    
    He also said that if you stray from the fairways, you end up in lots
    of hills and mounds.
    
    Looking forward to this torchure on Sunday...
    
    Shawn
    
742.12Really nice course...MANANA::CAMPBELLIt's only a CRIME if you get caught!Mon Sep 18 1989 11:0520
    Well the weather held off enough to get in 18 holes.
    
    I must say, this course is great.  Being newly opened, I think it's
    in great shape.  The greens were terrific and challenging.
    
    The back nine was not as bad as it looked.  In fact I did better on
    the back nine.  It's long, but forgiving.
    
    They also had marshals every few holes to keep the pace going.  They
    also had marshals near the hazards to locate fouled shots so the 
    players wouldn't be spending time looking.
    
    I played 18 in just over 4 hours and wasn't rushed at all.
    
    I'm going back this weekend.  The prefer tee times and that you have
    a foursome, but they will take twosomes.
    
    Shawn
    
    
742.13LoooooooongNSG018::STOPERATue Oct 24 1989 14:0225
    Well, I just played there the other day to try it out. I played the
    blue tees and I have to tell you that holes 15 and 16 are loooooong,
    it's crazy, 478 then 473 yard par 4's. I hit the ball pretty well off
    the tee, but to have a 230 yard 2nd shot is crazy after a good drive.
    Not only that they put a bunker 30 yards short of the green on both
    holes to catch short shots, I don't know about anyone else, but to me a
    30 yard bunker shot is one of the hardest shots in golf. I did hit the
    16th in 2 though with a 1 iron on my 3 try. I really don't think the
    average player will like the course because of it's length.
    
    Typical Cornish & Silva design though, deep greens where you need to
    hit as much a 2 clubs more or less depending on where the pin is
    located, well bunkered around the greens and fairways, really nice
    shape for a new course, although the greens were very long.
    
    Didn't like the 5th hole, a 521 yard par 5 over a marsh, with a brook
    after the marsh that you can't see from the tee. Didn't like #8, 394
    yard par 4 but from the blue tees you have to hit it 220+ to clear a
    brook, otherwise you have to play an iron off the tee and have a very
    long iron into the green. Hole #12 is long (460) par 4 but more
    reachable than 15 and 16. And 15 and 16, well those are the longest par
    4's I've ever played.
    
    Before you play there I'd go out and buy a 2 wood or pratice you driver
    from the fairway.
742.14ALLVAX::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Tue Oct 24 1989 16:277
    
    re .13
    
    What you're complaining about sounds like FUN to me. I like a
    chalanging course. 
    
    Mike_whos_a_average_golfer_who_hits_loooooong
742.15What me complainNSG018::STOPERATue Oct 31 1989 10:4210
    re. -1
    
    I'm not complaining, just mearly stating my opion of the course,
    actually I like the course, although I think that they should some how
    incorporate some of the long holes into the front 9, which is short.
    
    They last 7 holes will be the toughest 7 finishing holes you'll ever
    face.
    
    Peter
742.16ALLVAX::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Tue Oct 31 1989 12:3723
    
    My wife and I just played the new course yesterday. We only had
    time for 9 so they put us on the back 9. I found the back nine to
    be long but not that too long. In fact I liked it. I shot a 43.
    which isn't too bad since I have a 10 hdcp and I haven't played
    in about a month. I pared the long par 5 and boggied the other.
    The only gripe I had about the course was the hdcp for the women.
    It was very inconsistent. Hole # 10 is 419yds from the red tees.
    But it's a par 4 for them women and a par 5 for the men. Then a
    couple of holes later the red tees are 418 yds from the green yet
    it's a par 5. There really isn't much difference between the 2 holes.
    Hole 17 is a par 3 for men at 192 yds and a par 4 for women at 172
    yds. So I hit the ball and it lands in the bunker pin high. My wife
    takes out a 5 iron and proceeds to put the ball 5' from the pin.
    I then chip out of the trap and my ball ends up 6' from the pin
    lying 2, while my wife is lying 1, but in league play she'd be lying
    0 because I'd have to give her a stroke because of the hdcp difference.
    
    My wife and I enjoyed the course (at least the back 9) and am looking
    forward to playing there next year.
    
    Mike