Conference 7.286::golf

468.0. "Cape Cod TOPIC" by MSEE::KELLEY (got to get the short game togther) Mon Dec 12 1988 15:26

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Note 122.0                     Courses on Cape Cod                     7 replies
DREAMS::PIEL                                          8 lines  29-JUN-1987 19:52
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         I will be vacationing on the Cape during August. While it will
    not be a "golf vacation", I hope to play a couple of times during
    that week. 
     Does anyone have any favorite courses that you recommend and what
    can I expect to spend for the greens fee and cart ?
    
                thanks,
                        Ken
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HEFTY::WELLSPEAK "It's a Boy"                        14 lines  29-JUN-1987 20:14
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    	Ken, there are many courses on the Cape.  It is said that Cranberry
    Valley is one of the best, and while it may be in good shape, I
    didn't like it to much when I played there.  I think greens fees
    were around $18 and carts are another $16 - $18.  Pretty steep.
    Another course that is said to be very nice, is the Captains.  It
    is supposed to be one of the best on the Cape.  Lastly, if you can
    get on, try New Seabury.  It is private during some parts of the
    year, but you may just hit it right.  Another course I played and
    liked was, Iyanough Hills (spelling).  It was around $12 and carts
    around the same.  A nice course, but doesn't have the reputation
    of those mentioned above.  Good Luck, the course on the Cape have
    a lot of wind, and can play extremely difficult if you're not used
    to them.
                                                   Beak
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JUNIOR::GSMITH                                       18 lines   1-JUL-1987 18:37
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    Beak....
        You didn't like Cranberry Valley! What didn't you like about...
    your score.... (just kidding)  I played there last year and found
    it to be absolutely gorgeous.... excellant condition, challenging
    (we played the gold tees), fairway bunkers in addition to well bunkered
    greens, I plan to plan it again in a coule of weeks...
    
    You should call for reservations 2 days in advance... unless you
    want to play it (Cranberry Valley) in the afternoon....
    
    The green fees were $18 .... but you pay $14 around here for much
    less a course..
    
    Another suggestion I may have is Falmouth Country club... I think
    the green fees are about $14... cart $14 ... It is a nice course,
    very flat... large greens.... a good course .... easy walking course.
    
    Smitty
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HEFTY::WELLSPEAK "It's a Boy"                        22 lines   2-JUL-1987 14:35
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    	Smitty, what I didn't like about it was this.
    On a lot of approach shots, the course doesn't allow you any option.
    What I mean is, that their were traps in front, so you couldn't
    play short and run it on to the green.  This doesn't bother me.
    But the greens were so damn hard, that you couldn't land the ball
    on the green without it bouncing over and off the green.  I hit
    at least 3 or 4 shots with 8, 9 and pitching wedges that just would
    not hold the greens.  Now I can adapt pretty well, and on some courses
    I played, the greens were hard, but at least you could role the
    ball onto the greens.  And on other courses I've played, the greens
    were heavily trapped, but the greens were soft and held when you
    hit them.  Now I don't expect to be able to hold greens with low
    irons, but I've never had problems before with holding greens with
    my more lofted irons.  I usually play either Top Flights or Titliest
    DT's.  I know neither is a balata covered ball, but how many amateurs
    play balata covered balls?  I can't afford it.  I'd easily go thru
    8 dozen a season, as compared to 2 dozen Surlin covered balls.
    	Other than that, I liked the course.  It was in very good shape
    other than the greens being hard.  The fairways were immaculant,
    and the greens were true and cut low.  Tees were also very nice.
    
                                                    Beak
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USWAV1::RMURPHY "KITANSETT"                          64 lines   9-JUL-1987 17:37
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    I live in Wareham, MA (Known as the Gateway to Cape Cod) and have
    had the pleasure of playing a good many of the courses on the Cape.
    Here are some observations, probably biased, about courses on the
    Cape and in the region.
    
    The Privates are ALWAYS better...
    
    o New Seabury is a beautiful course that is listed as semi-private
    whatever that means. There are two courses there (one is an executive
    course and not worth the effort) but the championship course is
    beautiful for the first nine since it plays by, over and through
    what I believe is Nantucket Sound. Second nine is inland and very
    much like every other Cape course in terms of vegetation, etc. Front
    nine makes it worth the effort.
    
    o Hyannisport G.C.  Good luck. This is wrapped around the Kennedy
    family compound on the west side of Hyannis. Nice old design course
    with a few great challenges over salt marshes. I have been trying
    for years to get on this course and manage to get there every decade
    or so.
    
    o Woods Hole C.C. Same category as Hyannisport but terrain is vastly
    different (hilly). Many blind shots but you don't seem to mind because course
    is impeccably maintained.
    
    o Eastward HO (Chatham) Forget it. This is where all the state
    officials go to retire. Tip O'Neill calls this home. Perhaps the
    best club on the Cape but not sure if anyone has ever played it
    - it is that private.
    
    o Oyster Harbors (between Hyannis and Falmouth) also exclusive.
    I haven't been able to play here but all reports are that the course
    is very simple and elegant (old style design).
    
    o Cummaquid (Barnstable) I don't know too much about this course.
    I believe that it may be possible to play here with a little effort.
    This course is located near route 6A on some typical north-side
    Cape terrain. As is the case with most of the privates this too
    is an old style course.
    
    o Ocean Edge (Brewster) Newly opened and being touted as the best
    course in all the Ocean Edge ads. Played here last year and was
    oddly affected. Course is strange and does not allow the golfer
    much flexibility in shot selection. In some instances there appeared
    to be no legitimate landing areas. This is also 'golf amongst the
    condos'. Some love it - some hate it. NEPGA holds their championship
    here and you should hear the pros howl. There is a resort attached
    and you can play if you stay.
    
    o Kittanset Club (Marion off Cape) This is undoubtedly the best
    course I have ever played on. It is a true links course that resides
    on a point of land jutting into Buzzards Bay. The Walker Cup mathces
    were held here in (1953?) with Gene Littler emerging. Par 3 Third
    hole was made famous by Titleist - it is a ~180 yd carry over tidal
    section to a green surrounded by beach. (Interesting note: Most
    of the Board of Director of Acushnet (Titleist) belong to this club.
    It is so-o-o-o private that they could not get their newly elected
    president admitted as a member.)
    
    Gotta go...will add more later as time allows. There are lots of
    courses that can be readily played that will offer challenges without
    crowds and cost.
    
    See you in the next note.
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CURIUM::YOO "Phillip S. Yoo"                          7 lines  10-JUL-1987 03:35
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    Regarding New Seabury --
    	The course is kept private for property owners through Labor
    Day and open to the general public in the fall.  Last year I attended
    a wedding on the Cape and wanted to play but couldn't since the
    wedding was a week too early.  Rats.
    
    Phil Yoo
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Note 122.6                     Courses on Cape Cod                        6 of 7
USWAV1::RMURPHY "KITANSETT"                         163 lines  10-JUL-1987 16:53
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    There are a multitude of public access courses in the southeastern
    part of the state. I will do my best to remember them all but am
    sure to miss a few.
    
    Most of these course are new (within the last 20 years) and as such
    happened to be designed and built by the same architect - Geoffrey
    Cornish. This is a blessing because, in my opinion, he is a good
    architect who doesn't rely on the bulldozer method of course design
    but seems to deal realistically with what is presented to him in
    the basic geography. The only problem is that a Cornish course tends
    to look like most other Cornish courses. I don't know how he does
    it but take a look at courses like Cranberry Valley, Wareham, Poquoy
    Brook and, yes, Stowe Acres and you will find marked similarities.
    
    Par Three Courses...
    
    Heritage Hill, Lakeville - This is one great golf course. I
    hate it because I am not the most accurate iron player but the course
    is kept in top shape with 'U.S. Open rough surrounding greens that
    can't be measured by Stimpmeter. This is the best of its type possibly
    in New England. (Cornish)
    
    Blue Rock, Yarmouth - This is the second best par 3. Right in the
    heart of the Cape. A very good layout kept in excellent shape.
    
    Dunfey's, Hyannis - Pitch and putt only longer and less imagination.
    
    Little Harbor, Wareham - This is now an executive course. Conditioning
    leaves much to be desired. A few interesting water holes like the
    11th.
    
    
    Regulation Courses...
    
    (from west to east, generally)
    
    Poquoy Brook, Lakeville - A great Cornish course kept in very good
    shape. Moderate greens fee. Recommend getting a tee time (2 days
    in advance). Same genre as Stow - a family course that grew and
    grew.
    
    Reservoir Heights, Lakeville - An 18 hole course built where there
    was only room for 9. Originally this was a good 9 holer that 'needed'
    to be expanded to 18 holes but problems with town and DEQE crimped
    their design and the result is too crowded and in several instances
    unsafe. If you play you can easily tell the old nine holes - they
    were exciting.
    
    Little Marion, Marion - On the same road as Kittansett. New management
    has pumped some life into this design. Course features many olde
    stone barriers that cross most fairways and greens on par 3's that
    are protected by walls resembling Stonehenge (sp). Inexpensive.
    (9 holes)
    
    Rochester, Rochester - Inexpensive and not very crowded. This course
    was designed and built by the owner and his family. They are expanding
    any year now to 18 holes but original nine is interesting and
    challenging.
    
    Wareham, Wareham - (Cornish) This one is a gem that could be one
    of the best if the owners decide what they want to do. Front nine
    is average but spectacular back nine set on top of hills calls for
    exact placement. If they reworked the incredible 11th and were
    consistent with conditioning then the course would be a must. Now
    it is just another place to lose golf balls. (Moderate fees)
    
    White Cliffs, Plymouth - Newly dedicated Gary Player executive course
    is attached to a condo development. This is a resurrection of the
    original White Cliffs 9 holer. Have no other information.
                  
    Finally over the bridge...
    
    Round Hill, Sandwich - Cornish had his hands full with this land
    handed to him by the Volpe brothers (highway construction). The
    course has two separate faces. The front nine leaves you mumbling
    and trying to catch your breath. This nine is built over huge dunes
    left over from the birth of the cape. Many blind shots and drops
    of 100 feet not uncommon. Back nine is a great test of golf showing
    good design mix. Clubhouse is a showcase that offers a view of Cape
    Cod Bay. A little pricy last time I was there.
    
    Otis A.F.B. Course, Bourne - I have never played this one but have
    heard that I haven't missed much in the way of design and quality.
    
    Pocasset, Bourne (or Pocasset) - This is one of my favorites. I
    can play a three hour round of golf here on a weekend in the morning
    year round. Call for tee time. I believe that this course is a
    Donald Ross design but am not certain. The course isn't intact due
    to some land shifting and a moderate redesign. There are three
    relatively new holes that replace two original holes. The course
    was strengthened by these changes. Conditions are most always great.
    If I could only putt. Trick on weekends is to beat the 8:00 AM members
    tournaments and keep moving - they don't fool around.
    
    Holly Ridge, Sandwich - No information.
    
    Cape Cod C.C., Falmouth - Old design that was once part of a caddy
    camp and Inn (Clauson's Inn, Coonamesset Inn). Fairly short but
    demanding. Heard that they made some changes to the course that
    may have hurt. Usually in good shape, hilly.
    
    Falmouth, Falmouth - Never played it. Easy to find and friends say
    that it isn't that bad probably reasonable in price.
    
    Paul Harney, Falmouth - Never played it. This is owned by PGA pro
    Paul Harney. Had some radical ideas like six inch cups to make golf
    easier and more enjoyable. I believe that the cups are back to 4
    1/4 inches.
    
    Cotuit (Highgrounds), Cotuit - This one might not even exist anymore
    and I have no information other than I once drove by a sign that
    said Cotuit Highgrounds - 9 holes.
    
    Quashnet Valley, Falmouth - Built amongst cranberry bogs and woods
    this is reported to be a very good layout and placed in the must
    play category by friends. I will play it later this year.
    
    Iyanough Hills, Hyannis - This course has a few really nice golf
    holes but I found that they were too few to make up for the overall
    penal quality of the course. I am not that bad a shotmaker but found
    it impossible to hit the landing areas that you are supposed to
    hit. The 18th probably gives you a 5 yard landing area located at
    the edge of the lefthand woods. Miss it and you are either in the
    woods on the left or you rollllll down the hills to the woods on
    the right. (The course is similar to Wareham but Wareham was more
    realistic with only two 'round-killer' holes.)
    
    Dennis Highlands, Dennis - Owned and operated by the town of Dennis.
    This town has their act together in the operation of several
    'municipal' courses. This is a very flexible course that can be
    enjoyed by all levels of golfers. Sand traps are filled with an
    extremely foreign substance not found anywhere on the cape. Good
    take - call for tee time.
    
    Dennis Pines, Dennis - The older sister of the Dennis courses. This
    is a tough but fair layout that will kill you from the back tees.
    I would place this and Cranberry Valley in the category of courses
    that need to be played by good golfers. I found this one enjoyable.
    Interesting use of terracing in an attempt to make playing the hills
    possible. The fairways are narrow compared to Carnberry.
    
    Bass River, Yarmouth - This is a two-course-in-one layout. Front
    nine is older interesting design and also fairly short. Back nine
    is newer and exhibits less imagination - straight and long. Easy course
    to play and the price, I believe, was reasonable.
    
    Captains, Brewster - Everyone raves about this course but, alas,
    I must admit that I haven't had the chance to play here. Sorry but
    you have to rely on what everyone says - "Play it, it is great."
    
    Cranberry Valley, Harwich - This is the epitome of the municipal
    course success story. They move people through here at an unbelievable
    rate. The course is worth it and you can choose you rlevel of abuse
    by selecting any of four tee positions to play from. From the back
    tee on what I believe is the 14th hole (a par five) you need to
    get a 200 yard drive to leave the tee chute. Really challenging
    and deserving its ranking in the top 100 public courses.
    
    I'm tired and can't remember any others. I do know that they are
    building at least two other courses in the Harwich/Dennis area.
    One of these will be a municipal course.
    
    Hope this list offers some assistance. Have fun.
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HEFTY::WELLSPEAK "It's a Boy"                         7 lines  20-JUL-1987 19:21
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    	Check out the August 'Golf Digest'.  It has a short but interesting
    and very descriptive article on Cape Cod Golf Courses.  It offers
    price, difficulty and yardage, and even some basic layouts, of many
    of the better courses on the Cape.  If you plan on going there and
    playing some golf, it's well worth it, to read the article.
    
                                                     Beak

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Note 131.0                       Cape Golf Info                        6 replies
HAVOC::DESROCHERS                                    11 lines  21-JUL-1987 18:56
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    The August Issue of Golf Digest, with the Zinger on the cover,
    has a vacation section about the Cape.
    
    It lists locations, prices, places to stay, and small writeups
    on selecte courses.
    
    Worth it for anyone interested in golf on the Cape.
    
    Tom
    
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MSEE::KELLEY "Keep_it_in_play, TITANIUM_X-STIFF"     17 lines  25-APR-1988 15:18
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Note 26.1                       Cape Cod courses                          1 of 3
BLUES::OGREN                                          9 lines   6-AUG-1986 18:40
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    Paul,
    
    I haven't played many cape courses so I'm hardly an expert.
    However the word is that the Captains in Brewster is excellent
    and that Cranberry Valley in Harwich is very good. Both are public
    and popular - you should call for a tee time as soon as you can.
    Have fun and hit it straight!
    
    	Eric
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MSEE::KELLEY "Keep_it_in_play, TITANIUM_X-STIFF"     30 lines  25-APR-1988 15:19
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Note 26.2                       Cape Cod courses                          2 of 3
SPMFG1::WELLSPEAK                                    22 lines  19-AUG-1986 13:04
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    	Thanks Eric.  I did play Cranberry Valley but wasn't overly
    impressed with it.  It was nice, but most of the people I talked
    to down there said it was the best course on the Cape, so I was
    expecting a little better course.  I think the main reason I didn't
    like the course was because the greens didn't hold at all.  Normally
    this isn't a problem, but at this course there are a lot of traps
    directly in front of the green.  This forces you to hit a high shot
    over the trap to go at the pin, and the ball bounced so hard, nothing
    would stay even close to the green.  I play a titliest-DT so I do
    get some spin on the ball, but not even spin can stop a ball that
    bounces 10 to 15 feet high.  This was happening even when hitting
    9 irons and full PW's. 
    	I also played a course called "Iyanough Hills".  It was located
    somewhere near Sandwich.  It wasn't bad, although considerably shorter
    than C.V..  I wasn't expecting much though and this probably had
    something to do with my liking the course.  Also they were much
    more friendly here than at C.V. and we got right off the tee with-
    out a tee time.
    	Thanks again for your response.
    
    			Paul
    
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MSEE::KELLEY "Keep_it_in_play, TITANIUM_X-STIFF"     20 lines  25-APR-1988 15:20
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Note 26.3                       Cape Cod courses                          3 of 3
BLUES::OGREN                                         12 lines  25-AUG-1986 15:19
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    Too bad about Cranberry Valley, Paul. I felt pretty safe recommending
    it - it has a real good reputation and Golf Digest had ranked it
    among the top 50 public courses in the US of A. There is little
    excuse for having greens like pavement - especially when we have
    had a wet summer! It is a terrible feeling to continually watch
    your good approach shots bounce and roll off the greens. Oh well,
    I hope it didn't spoil your vacation.
    
    Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep your experience in mind next
    time I'm asked about the cape.
    
    	Eric
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USWAV3::FAGERBERG                                    10 lines  25-APR-1988 15:46
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      I played in a company Spring outing in Sandwhich, Saturday, at
    Round Hill C C.  Probably because it was cold and windy, and it
    is a HILLY course (definitely not a walking course) it has small
    landing areas and scores were up there!  100 was low gross!  It
    should play better in warmer weather but I wouldn't go out of my
    way to play there again.  Too punishing if you miss the landing
    area.  You roll down hills where you need rope safety lines to
    get to your ball.  I didn't think there were hills like that on
    the cape.  From the clubhouse you can see Provincetown. 
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METM11::MURPHY                                       24 lines  26-APR-1988 15:07
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    (FYI)
    
    Round Hill is built on the Upper Cape which is known for its sand
    hills and scrub oak forests. The course itself was built by Sam
    Volpe of the Volpe Construction Company during the 1970's and has
    seen three different owners.
    
    Originally the nines on this course were reversed with the last
    five holes (starting with the aptly named Roller Coaster) providing
    a torturous finish. The present owners took pity on the public and
    the members and switched the nines around to its current configuration
    placing those monsters in the middle of your round. Actually the
    course has many excellent holes but everyone seems only to recall
    that incredible stretch of hills and waste areas starting at the
    fifth hole.
    
    The clubhouse was, at the time of its construction, the most expensive
    and beautiful of its kind on the Cape providing views of Provincetown,
    the cape sand dunes, etc. It is built on the second highest point
    of ground on the Cape. (The Pave Paws installation, I believe, is
    on the highest ground.)
    
    Sam Volpe is entombed just off the 17th fairway in a small 'cathedral'
    made of imported Italian marble.
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USWAV3::FAGERBERG                                     4 lines  26-APR-1988 15:23
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     Thanks for the background on ROundhill.  It ends the speculation
    on what the little church was all about.  We thought it was aplace
    to pray for survival.  When its windy those holes are really murder!

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Note 192.0                  Cape "Scrod" winter golf                   9 replies
WORDS::NISKALA "Blinded by the light"                 7 lines  29-JAN-1988 08:24
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    	How is the cape golf faring this winter? I know they haven't
    been belted this winter like last, but there still has been some
    storms that swung thru the cape.  Are there courses open or are
    they snowed under. I'm itching to dig the clubs out for "one more
    round of frustration". Thanks.
    
    Keith
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CGVAX2::BRADSHAW                                      2 lines  29-JAN-1988 16:21
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    TRY THE MONTAUP COUNTRY CLUB IN PORTSMOUTH, RHODE ISLAND-IT WAS
    OPEN LAST WEEKEND. 18 HOLES-PHONE 401-683-9882.
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Note 192.2                  Cape "Scrod" winter golf                      2 of 9
AMRETO::RESIDE "Well, I mighta gone fishin"           9 lines   1-FEB-1988 11:35
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    	We (myself and 3 others) drove all the way to the Cape
    	Sunday morning only to find 2 and 1/2 hour minimum waits
    	on all the courses that were open (New Seabury, Quachusset,
    	etc...).  We figured that we'd never make it back in time
    	for the Super Bowl so we bagged it.
    
    	BTW, we couldn't make a tee time before we went either.
    
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SONATA::KENNERLY "Helen Kennerly,276-9458,OGO1-1/R1" 15 lines   2-FEB-1988 15:00
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    I PLAYED BASS RIVER ON SATURDAY AND ALTHOUGH IT WAS WINDY AND COLD
    "OFF THE RIVER", IT SOFTEND BY NOON.   THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE
    BUT WE HAD NO TROUBLED TEEING OFF.   ALL 18 HOLES WERE OPENED AND
    THEY USED THE REGULAR GREENS.   DENISE PINES AND HIGHLANDS ARE OPEN
    (AS IS THE CAPTAINS COURSE), BUT THEY ARE USING TEMPORARY GREENS.
    
    MY BOSS PLAYED AT SAGAMORE (IN LYNNFIELD, MA.) ON SUNDAY.  CLAIMS
    THEY HAVE BEEN OPEN EVERY WEEKEND EXCEPT ONE.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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Note 192.4                  Cape "Scrod" winter golf                      4 of 9
VIRGO::MURPHY "I want you to kill all the gophers..." 5 lines  15-FEB-1988 15:32
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    The storm of 12-FEB-88 was ALL rain on the Cape followed by fog
    in the afternoon. The courses are now devoid of snow. As always,
    Call Before You Go.
    
    It's time to dust 'em off again.
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Note 192.5                  Cape "Scrod" winter golf                      5 of 9
MSEE::KELLEY "Keep_it_in_play, TITANIUM_X-STIFF"     14 lines   9-MAR-1988 14:30
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    	Well, I just returned from three GREAT days of golf at the Cape...!
    	The weather was teriffic for this time of year (around 50) just
    	VERY windy. We played at Falmouth C.C. and at Cape Cod C.C.
    	We played 9 on Sunday, 27 on Monday, and 18 on Tuesday. Falmouth
    	C.C. is a very FLAT course (easy to walk). Cape Code C.C. is
    	a real nice course, hilly, many elevated greens, a few wet
    	spots in the low areas (I would love to play it in the regular
    	season). Now I am looking forward to local courses to open even
    	more than before...!!!!
    
    	We called Cranberry Valley, they were using temp. greens...
    
    	Gene
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TPVAX1::ORRIS                                        10 lines  10-OCT-1988 10:35
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        Well with the weather getting colder my thoughts are are turning
        to playing Golf on the cape this winter...  I have access to
        a plane and I would like to find a course(s) close to an airport..
    
        Vermont offers several courses where you can walk from the plane
        to the tee...  Any setups like this available on the Cape ???
    
        
    
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IAMOK::OCONNOR                                        4 lines  10-OCT-1988 13:46
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    The closest golf course to Hyannis airport is about a mile down the
    street on Route 132 and is called Iyanough Hills. That is the only
    one that I know that is close.
    I don't know if there are any other airports on the Cape.
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Note 192.8                  Cape "Scrod" winter golf                      8 of 9
ENGINE::WARFIELD "Gone Golfing"                      17 lines  11-OCT-1988 17:32
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	Re: .6

>	 I have access to
>        a plane and I would like to find a course(s) close to an airport..
    
	It's not on the cape & it's not in a warm climate, but if you
	are interested in a good vacation course, let me recommend Boyne
	Highlands in the Northern part of the Lower Penisula of Michagan
	near Petosky.  They have 2 18's there and are building 1-2 more 
	(that was 2 yrs ago, they are probably done by now.)  It is on the
	Golf Digest Top 100 US courses list.

	At the resort there is a small strip (it may even be grass).
	Less that 1 mile away is a larger airport with a couple of runways.
	This whole area of Michigan is called their Golf Coast.  Within a 
	reasonable drive there several courses by Palmer, Nicklaus, and
	several others.
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Note 192.9                  Cape "Scrod" winter golf                      9 of 9
MIRAGE::CBRADSHAW                                    20 lines  12-OCT-1988 11:29
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    I have to second the Northern Michigan advice in -.1  Every year
    I go to Michigan (Grand Rapids) and play in my brother-in-laws memeber
    -guest and the past 2 years we've traveled north to tune up.  
    
    The first year we played a course called "The Bear" in Traverse
    City.  Designed by "The Bear" himself, it has to be the hardest
    golf course I've ever played.  Almost 7100 yards from the back tees,
    my brother-in-law insists we play it all the way back.  Lots of
    elevated fairways, with drops of up to 10 feet if you miss the fairway.
    
    Last year we played a course called "Treetops".  This course was
    designed by Robert Trent Jones.  It's fairly new and hasn't matured
    yet, but real nice.  And very playable.  I can't recall the name
    of the town it was in but it wasn't near the coast.  
    
    My brother-in-law tells me there are plenty of coursed in Norhtern
    Michigan that are worth the trip from Grand Rapids.  
    
    Chuck

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Note 247.0            Weekend Report-New Seabury- Cape Cod             2 replies
JUNIOR::MONTVILLE                                    37 lines  11-APR-1988 15:09
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    Golf weekend report.....
    
    Thanks to a reply in NOTE 204 we decided on New Seabury for our
    retreat.
    
    We went down on Friday April 8th, you got it the weather conditions
    were terrible.  It was raining steadily, 40mph wind gust and cold.
    
    The course conditions were still pretty good and managed to score
    fairly well. ( I won't state the score, I don't want to embarras
    myself.).
    
    Saturday the weather conditions improved NO RAIN to speak of but
    the wind was still terrible.  Managed to break 100 -just barley.
    
    Sunday - IDEAL, still windy but now I knew how to play the wind
    on this course.  I should state there are two courses here. 
    There is the Blue course which rund along the ocean, and the Green
    course which is on the inside (Bay side) of the resort.
    
    The accomodations for sleeping were excellent, the green fees were
    in line as well as the cart prices.  The food and the service left
    a little to be desired.
    
    All in all this is a good course for the average golfer, the Green
    course is rated 67.5 and I think that is a little high.  I would
    reccomend this early package to anyone who want to get some good
    golf in early down the good ole Cape of Cod.  If memory serves me
    coorectly it was around $190.00 for two nightes, two 18 rounds on
    the Green course, two $5.00 meal tickets per person.  Cart prices
    for 18 were $22.10 and extra green fees were $20.00.
    
    Anyone interested this special runs to the middle of June.
    
    See Ya,
    
    Monty
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Note 247.1            Weekend Report-New Seabury- Cape Cod                1 of 2
MTBLUE::FREEMAN_KEVI "The Squeeky Wheel = Neglect"    3 lines  13-APR-1988 07:52
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They also had a special prior to April 1st. $77 (Condo,2 meals,greensfees)
I was under the impression that after that time frame it was a little less 
than double that figure ie $140ish.  Is that 180 figure with carts by chance?
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Note 247.2            Weekend Report-New Seabury- Cape Cod                2 of 2
JUNIOR::MONTVILLE                                    13 lines  13-APR-1988 09:09
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    The answer to the carts is NO, they were $22.10 for 18...I overheard
    one of the folks at the registration desk tell someone else that
    they had just increased their rates.  I can see why there is more
    construction and remodeling going on there than you can believe.
    
    When we arrived there on Friday the Pro-shop was in a construction
    trailer, on Saturday the opened a new Pro-shop inside the main
    building,they are also constructing a Snack-shop right next to the
    pro-shop...we pay for all of this work.  BUT IT WAS STILL WORTH
    IT!.
    
    
    Monty

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Note 362.0                        CAPE COD GOLF                        9 replies
THOTH::MANGAN                                          1 line  12-AUG-1988 11:16
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Note 362.1                        CAPE COD GOLF                           1 of 9
THOTH::MANGAN                                         9 lines  12-AUG-1988 11:31
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    HI! THIS IS MY FIRST NOTE IN THE GOLF FILE,AS A MATTER OF FACT ITS
    MY FIRST NOTE ENTRY ON THE NET. I WAS HOPING SOME ONE OUT THERE
    COULD SUGGEST A COURSE IN DENNISPORT OR DENNIS THAT'S OPEN TO THE
    PUBLIC ON WEEKENDS AND RELITIVELY EASY TO GET A TEE TIME. I'LL BE
    MEETING A FRIEND OF MINE DOWN THERE ON THE 27TH OF AUGUST AND WE
    PERFERE TO PLAY AN 18 HOLE COURSE. LAST YEAR WE PLAYED A NICE 9
    HOLE COURSE ..DENNIS PINES?. ALL REPLIES WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
    
    HAPPY GOLFING     ED.
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Note 362.2                        CAPE COD GOLF                           2 of 9
NETWRK::GSMITH "Double Trouble "                       1 line  12-AUG-1988 12:47
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Note 362.3                        CAPE COD GOLF                           3 of 9
THOTH::MANGAN                                        11 lines  12-AUG-1988 15:15
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    RE.2   Thanks for the input, I was hoping to find out where our
    best bet would be to get a tee time, and at a reasonable price.
    Most of my golf is played at courses in the Metrowest where if your
    not a member forget about getting a tee time untill after 12:00-1pm
    on weekends. I did find Dennis Pines and Dennis Highlands but don't
    know if we'll have to wait till after noon to play. I suppose a
    phone call is in order unless one of you golf fans out there can
    tell me more about these courses. All replies are appreciated.
    
    thanks   Ed
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Note 362.4                        CAPE COD GOLF                           4 of 9
METM11::MURPHY "Dormie"                              35 lines  15-AUG-1988 14:31
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    Summer-on-the-Cape-Fact-of-Life: You may not be able to get a good
    tee time on the Cape on a weekend.
    
    The policies for reserving tee times are all different but for one
    small matter - they all give preference to the members. It might
    not seem fair given the fact that you spend up to $25 per round
    and they spend a paltry sum fo membership privileges ($250/year
    at Captains!) but this is the way it is...(by the way, Captains
    has >1000 members and membership is now closed.)
    
    I would suggest trying one of the following courses as outlined
    below using an autodialer (redial function) to get through:
    
    Captains (in Brewster) - without any doubt this is the best public
    course in the northeast (according to Golf Digest). Start dialing
    at 5:00 PM Thursday for a Saturday tee time. (5:00 PM Friday for
    Sunday times....) It is possible to get a pre-noon (just barely)
    time here. Greens Fee is $25.
    Phone (508)896-5100
    
    Cranberry Valley (in Harwich) - a good course with wide fairways
    and large greens. Same reservation policy as Captains and a good
    second choice course. A nicely run golf operation.
    Phone (508)432-4653
    
    Bayberry Hill (in Yarmouth) - brand new course built by the town
    to supplement Bass River play demand. Good design and an interesting
    test. Remember that the course is brand new (immature greens, etc.).
    You start dialing here on Friday at 7:00 AM for a Saturday time
    (one day ahead). This will probably be your earliest possible tee
    time since there are 'better' courses, so far, in the area. 
    Phone (508)394-5597
    

    Best of luck. Let us know what you found.    
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Note 362.5                        CAPE COD GOLF                           5 of 9
CIMNET::DSULLIVAN                                    11 lines  16-AUG-1988 15:43
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    TELL YA,
    
    Head to brewster !!
    
    The Captains, Cranberry Valley and Ocean Edge are by far the top
    3 courses open to the public that I attack when I head Capeward
    
    - Dave
    
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Note 362.6                        CAPE COD GOLF                           6 of 9
GNOMES::TUFTS                                         4 lines  19-AUG-1988 00:59
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    Iyanough on Route 132 in Hyannis, less than a quarter of a mile
    off Exit 6 of the mid-Cape Highway takes non-members before members
    on weekends, but you should call Thursday for a tee time.  This
    course has improved tremendously over the last few years.
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Note 362.7                        CAPE COD GOLF                           7 of 9
NHL::NEIL "Peter C."                                 14 lines  19-AUG-1988 10:58
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   re .0, .6 

>    Iyanough on Route 132 in Hyannis, less than a quarter of a mile
>    off Exit 6 of the mid-Cape Highway takes non-members before members
>    on weekends, but you should call Thursday for a tee time.  This
>    course has improved tremendously over the last few years.

	The # is 508-362-4551. I played there (only the back 9,
	unfortunately :-( ) a couple of weeks ago and the course
	was in pretty good condition.

	It's a little short, but mostly narrow and tough...

	Peter.
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Note 362.9                        CAPE COD GOLF                           9 of 9
SA1794::WELLSPEAK "This Notes For You..."            18 lines  22-AUG-1988 11:06
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    	I played the Captains 3 weeks ago, and I'll have to agree that
    it's the best course the Cape has!!!  Beautiful fairways, and nice
    greens.  We settled for a 1:00 pm tee time though.  Couldn't get
    on in the morning.  I also played Dennis Pines and it was nice,
    but once again, played in the afternoon.  I played in a twosome
    with my brother-in-law, and we finished an 18-hole round in 4 hours
    and 10 minutes.  A very pleasing round.  They accept tee times up
    to 4 days in advance.  The Captains accepts tee times starting at
    5 pm 2 days in advance, but I called them at 5:20, and was told
    there were no tee times left before 11:45, so I opted for the 1:00
    tee time.  Beleive me, it was well worth it.  I personnally didn't
    care to much for Cranberry Valley, but the last time I played there
    was 2 years ago.  Iyanough hills is a nice course though.  And although
    I haven't plaYed there, the 2 guys I played with at the Captains,
    they played at Bayberry the day before, and it was a beautiful course,
    even though it had opened only 3 weeks earlier.  Good Luck.
    
                                                   Beak

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Note 398.0                     Cape Hotel Deals???                     5 replies
SCENIC::BYRNE                                         9 lines  19-SEP-1988 15:39
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    I'm planning on heading to the Cape this weekend. I've been
    hearing so much about The Captains, Cranberry Valley, and 
    New Seabury that I'm dying to check them out.  But I'd
    like to find some good hotel deals or packages.  Can anyone
    out there recommend some personal favorites?
    
    -John-
    
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SCENIC::BYRNE                                         6 lines  21-SEP-1988 09:54
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    Hasn't anybody out there been to the Cape and liked the
  Hotel they stayed at?????  I'm leaving on Friday, and
    getting anxious!
    
    
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CALLME::MR_TOPAZ                                      5 lines  22-SEP-1988 07:34
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       Don't be anxious -- instead, give the command DIR/TITLE=CAPE
       and you'll find that notes 12, 131, 192, 247, and 362 discuss
       golf on Cape Cod.
       
       --Mr Topaz
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SCENIC::BYRNE                                         8 lines  22-SEP-1988 09:23
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    I had previously done a dir/title="Cape" and looked
    at all the notes you mentioned, but the only hotel
    mentioned was one at New Seabury, the rest was 
    talking about the golf courses themselves, I already
    know which golf courses I want to play.  Are there
    any other Golf Weekend/Hotel Packages other than
    New Seabury on the Cape??
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MSEE::KELLEY "got to get the short game togther"      6 lines  22-SEP-1988 09:54
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    We stayed at the Falmouth Inn this spring, a no frills kind
    of place... They have a package tha tincludes golf at the
    Falmouth CC...
    
    Gene
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TOMCAT::BREEN                                         2 lines  30-SEP-1988 17:33
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    Boston Sunday Globe travel has packages.
    

    Hi, for the person that was asking about Captains, and Cranberry
    Valley....I have played both of them, and found them to be GREAT!
    I especially liked Captains, but also found Cranberry Valley very
    interesting. Great shape from tee to green...try it you'll love
    it, but definitely, make reservations. We made them three months
    in advance, and still couldn't get off until 2:30PM. But is was
    worth the wait. Going down to New Seabury this year, only hope it
    is as good....
    
    
    Maureen Barber

     It's Better (if you play the outside course...)!!
    
    --Jack

    Last I knew, you can make reservations to Cranberry Valley TWO DAYS
    before playing. They start taking tee times at 5:00PM... and it's
    real tough getting thru.
    
    Has this changed?
    
    Smitty

    	Smitty, it was that way last year too.  At both Cranverry Valley
    and at the Captains. 
    
    Beak

       Well, the fever is getting up there again, so it time
    to go hit some balls.
       Are there any open courses on the Cape this year? Have
    any of the addicts in this file been playing out there?
    I think Friday will be the day. Any suggestions?
    
    
    Dave

    
    I'm going to be staying just a few miles from Nickerson State Park
    on my vacation.  WHich of the courses mentioned in this note are
    close to this area?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Shane
    

    I'm planning a golf vacation at the cape for mid Sept. and need
    some recommendatiuons for a couple courses to play.  Presently we
    have Captains, Cranberry Valley, New Seabury, and Bayberry Hills.
    We need 2 more courses to round out our schedule.
    How are the courses we have scheduled?  What other courses are
    considered a must play for the Cape?
    
    Any help will be appreciated.
    
    	Thanks....Mike

    Play the outside course (ONLY !!) at New Seabury, skip Cranberry Valley
    and add Dennis Pines.
    
    --Jack

>    Play the outside course (ONLY !!) at New Seabury, skip Cranberry Valley
>    and add Dennis Pines.
    
Play the New Seabury "blue" course, and definitely don't get conned into 
playing the "green".  I like Cranberry Valley!  Dennis Pines is a good, 
tough course -- lots of Cape Cod pine trees lining the fairways.  Ocean's 
Edge is nice, but is fairly expensive and the New Seabury "blue" is better.

The other course I'd play is Cape Cod CC in Falmouth.  It is a Donald Ross 
design, typically in good shape, lots of doglegs, hills, small greens, the 
kind bunkers that you seem to hit when you are not sharp, etc.  SOme of the
holes are real gems, like the 9th -- a 155 yd par 3 over water, with a lake
left and a pond right.  The par 5s and some par 4s are eagle/birdie holes 
if you go for it, but if you miss...  The 14th par 4 "volcano" hole is
difficult to hit in two.  As you can tell, I really like the course. My BGA
league plays a 3 day event there each spring.  I'm not sure if I like it
because of the memories, or it is just a fun course.  Has anyone else
played it? 

Jeff

    
    
    	I played at the Ocean Edge two weeks ago and would highly recommend
    it. We payed 45.00 for greens fee's which included the cart. Definaetly
    a links course, definaetly don't go for the green in 2 on 18, lay
    up with a 9 iron. 
    John

    Just got a call back from New Seabury,  bad news,  seems they have
    changed their policy for public play.  They are now private until
    Columbus Day Oct. 9.  Oh well, I've played their a few times before
    but the rest of our group hasn't so its their loss!!  Right now
    our schedule looks like this:
    
    	Day 1- Falmouth C.C
    	       Cape Cod C.C
    
    	Day 2- Captains
    	       Ocean Edge
    
    	Day 3- Bayberry Hill
    	       Dennis Pines
    
    Any courses we left out that are "must play" for the cape???
    
    	Thanks....Mike			

     Sure, Wianno, Oyster Harbors, Eastward Ho !, and Hyannisport, but
    they're all private. Actually, if you call Wianno and Hyannisport you
    might have a shot since it's later in the season.
    
    --Jack

     I left out 3 real good ones that you CAN get on, although call these
    courses first:
    Quashnet Valley
    WillowBend
    Dennis Highlands.
     Willowbend may be expensive, but people tell me it's great, and
    Quashnet is supposed to be strong, too. Of course, over on Martha's
    Vineyard is Farm Neck, which just may be the best of any of the courses
    you've scheduled...
    
    --Jack

If you ever get the chance to play Farm Neck you should.  There was an 
article in the Globe last year about Farm Neck -- Cape Cod's hidden gem.
Reminded me a lot of New Seabury.  Had some nice holes along the ocean.  If
you were going to *only* play 18 in one day, take the ferry over from
Falmouth and play it. You won't regret it. 

Dennis Highlands was built around the same time as Ocean Edge and Captains, 
and got much less publicity.  It's okay, and is less challenging than the
Dennis Pines course. 

Not too long ago Cranberry Valley was listed as one of the top public 
courses in the country.  It is noticeably absent from the list.

Jeff

    Excuse me for not coming up with the name but there is a course in
    Yarmouth, near Blue Rock (executive) with among others a real nice par
    3 next to the ocean.
    
    Jim Hallet's old course, cannot for the life of me come up with the
    name.
    
    Wind makes this course tough at times
    
    bb

    Hi Mike,
    
    	I'll add another vote for Farm Neck... I played there two years
    ago and loved it ! A saved the score card because one of the rules
    explained what to do when a seagull picked up your ball and took off ;)
    
    	The course was in excellent condition tee to green, with some very
    picturesque holes. Do yourselves a favor, play 18 at Farm Neck, then
    go chow some lobsters at a local restaurant !
    
    	Walta
    

    re: .15
    
    Course in Yarmouth, near Blue Rock is - Bass River.  This is a nice
    course, not too long a course but some very interesting and challenging
    holes.
    
    

	I just got back from the Cape and was totally disgusted with the way 
they allot tee times and run the courses.  We played Dennis Pines, (3rd time 
I've played there), and although it is a decent course, Crannberry Valley is 
far and away the better conditioned, and more challenging course, in my 
opinion.  Unfortunately, we could not get a tee time earlier than 3:15pm on 
either Cranberry or the Captains, and Ocean Edge said they were private.  Both 
Cranberry and the Captains said they would only take tee times over the phone, 
starting at 4:30 pm two days ahead of time.  My brother-in-law and I tried for 
3 days, dialing until our fingers were practically bleeding, and got nothing 
but busy signals.  So we went to the Captains in person one day, about 4:10 pm 
and asked if we could get a tee time.  They said you have to start calling at 
4:30.  We then asked, what our chances were of getting a tee time before noon. 
They said, unless a member skips his tee time, none.  We then asked what our 
chances were of getting a tee time before 2:00 pm.  They said if you can get 
thru on the phones before 5:00 pm, you might get lucky and get one.  We then 
asked how they could possibly call themselves a public course, when you can't 
get a tee time there, unless a miralcle happens and an act of nature allows 
you to get thru on the phones between 4:30 pm and 5:00 pm.  We got pretty much 
the same story from Cranberry.  Although both these courses are very well 
groomed and nice courses, their managemnet stinks!!!  If someone takes the 
time to drive out to the course 2 days ahead of time, and there is a vacant 
tee time, then they should be allowed to sign up for them.  If they have a 
problem with people cancelling out there tee times at the last minute, then 
they should ask for a 1/2 price, non-refundable deposit from non-members, 
instead of putting people thru this bull#&^&!!!

A very disappointed Beak

    
       Try ROUND HILL in SANDWHICH, it's right off route 6, QUAKER
    MEETINGHOUSE RD. exit. I played it in july and found it to be a very
    nice course. I think it's $22.00 on weekdays and $32.00 on weekends and
    $9.00 after 4pm.
    
    Brian

     I can't understand the Cranberry/Dennis Pines comparison. Cranberry is
    usually in good shape, but to me at least, it's an easy golf course -
    especially if you drive it o.k. Dennis, on the other hand, can be your
    worst nightmare - especially from the back. Just my opinion.
    
    --Jack

	Just called both pro shops.  The stats from the white-equivalent 
markers are as follows:

                        Yardage Rating  Slope
                        ------- ------  -----
Dennis Pines    	6525 	n/a	122
Cranberry Valley	6296	70.4	123


	If DP has a rating, the people in the pro shop didn't know what it 
was.

Jeff

    
    I was talking with my father and told me that Cranberry Valley has had
    a severe green 'kill'. I am not sure, but I think it happened very
    recently. There are, apparently sevearl greens which are dead!
    
    This is one of my favorite courses, and we were going to play there in
    the Fall. Can anyone verify the conditions there? My father did not
    play there himself, this came from his friend.
    
    Smitty

    Not too much has been said about this course but you should all know
    that Willowbend, located in Mashpee near the New Seabury rotary, is
    very possibly one of the best courses in New England.
    
    Willowbend opened last year as a private course designed by the same
    architect who laid out Dennis Highlands (Dr. Micheal Hurdzan (?)). 
    It appears as though the objectives at Willowbend were simple - there
    was plenty of land and money (at that time) was no object. The result
    is a very challenging, interesting, beautiful,...., uncharacteristic
    golf course.
    
    Unfortunately (for them) Willowbend declared bankruptcy last year due
    to the collapse of the housing market here and the bank assumed
    management of the course and operates it on a semi-private basis
    accepting a limited number of 'transients' each day.
    
    The cost, although steep at $50 Guest Fee and $25 for 18 hole cart
    fee, allows you to play in relative seclusion on a great track that has
    you shooting over, around and through cranberry bogs. The course has
    four tee positions which is flexible enough for all levels of play.
    
    Although the course features many constructs (such as pot bunkers,
    mounds, waste areas, water hazards edged by wooden ties and even a
    variation on an island green) they are tastefully done and do not
    distract from the feeling of the course.
    
    The 18th is a sucker par five at around 480 from the back tees. A well
    placed drive will leave you at the 210 marker which tempts you to try
    to hit the green - a green which is made an island by the surrounding
    cranberry bogs. It takes two great shots to make it.f
    
    The staff their is more receptive and reasonable than the nasties that
    man the Cape's "PUBLIC" courses. The range is both huge and free.
    
    The fall should be an especially good time to play Willowbend. Give it
    a try and tell me how you feel about it. We played 36 last Thursday
    while on vacation - the first 18 in 3 1/2 hrs and the last 18 in 4 1/2
    (behind a Cape Cod PGA Tourney) and it was great.
    
    

    
    I just returned from a three day trip to NewSeabury. FANTASTIC golf
    course! First time I've played there. We played teh Blue course on
    Thursday and Friday, and the Green course on Saturday. A friend of a
    friend is a member and he set up 10:00AM tee times all three days,
    (can't beat that with a stick!).
    
    I've played several courses on the Cape before, but none come close to
    the Blue course at NewSeabury. Play it if you get the chance.
    
    The greens on the Blue course are fast as lightning, and TOUGH. It's a
    long course with manicured tees, fairways, roughs, greens, traps, and
    anything else you can think of.
    
    GREAT time.
    
    	Smitty

    I can't stand it any longer..
    
    I just called New Seabury for reservation this weekend..
    
    Anyone have the latest Cape weather report and perhaps a report on
    course conditions ??
    
    
    Jim
    
    

    I've got a question about a couple of courses down the cape, if anyone
    has played them I would appreciate their input.  The courses are...
    Balleymead (sp)
    Quasnett (sp)
    Baypoint
    
    The questions are
    1. What types of courses are these?
    2. What towns are they in?
    3. Cost to play
    
    
    The reason I'm asking is in the Sunday Globe one of the Hotels were
    offering golf packages for these course and some others that I have
    already played.  Trying to figure out if it is worth going through the
    hotel/motel or doing it on my own.
    
    thanks Jon

    I don't know much about those hotels.  I do know the golf courses and
    they are ok.  The real course to play down there is called Willowbend.
    It is a private golf course that is open to the public (call them
    first) before the majority of Cape traffic hits.  It is in Cotuit. 
    From the back tees (6800 yards) it is by far the best course I have
    played in New England area.  I have played all the famous Boston area 
    courses (The Country Club open course, Concord CC, Charles River,
    Belmont etc) and this has them beat.
    
    Good Luck.

    Has anyone ever played Quashnet Valley on the Cape?
    
    We have 10:00 tee times for this Friday (vacation). This is
    our annual golf trip. We are playing Cape Cod CC, Ballymeade,
    Quashnet Valley, and Falmounth CC. Not a great selection, but
    we got a late start this year, so we took what we could get
    tee times for.
    
    		Jerry
    

    
    Nobody has played Quashnet Valley ...
    
    Real nice track! It's kinda on the idea of BallyMeade, tight,
    fairly short course. You don't need a driver, especially if
    you can not keep it straight. Lots of dog legs, neat par 3's,
    many traps. Course is in *very* fine condition. Fast greens.
    
    It's got 3 par 3's on the fron, one on the back. We squeezed
    in the round before the rain came! Got washed out on Saturday.. :^(
    
    $36.00 with a cart... not too bad .
    
    		Jerry
    

    Quashnet Valley was in bad shap the 25th of Sept. The greens were
    terrible. Bare spots, not mowed, pitted. I would suggest you try a 
    different place.
    
    bob, not happy he spent the money on Quashnet 
                                          

    Bob..
    
    maybe because of all the rain the greens got damaged? When I played,
    which was right before all the rain, it was very well manicured.
    With all the rain, they probably couldn't mow anything. I don't
    care one way or another, I've only played it once, but it was
    beautiful that day!
    
    	Jerry

    Has anyone out there played Baypoint in Wareham?  Were heading down 
    tomorrow.  Any feedback would be apreciated.
    
    Thanks
      Jeff

My son is going to the cape with the High School Golf Team this weekend
and will be playing Dennis Highlands.

Anyone know the course enough to provide a Do's & Don'ts list for
any holes that might be tricky ?? You know, keep your drive to
the left on #2 for a better approach ......

thanks

Randy

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V A C A T I O N   T O W N H O U S E  For Rent.... Spring, Summer, Fall

		              OCEAN EDGE RESORT                        
                            CAPE COD   - Brewster, MA                  

Condominium is located on Ocean Edge's popular golf course.

Fully furnished townhouse with complete kitchen, dining area, living room,
   1 1/2 baths, sleep six (two upstairs bedrooms (queen & twin), 
   living room sleep sofa), patio, washer/dryer, cable TV, vcr

Resort has 3 outdoor pools plus kiddie pool + 1 indoor pool facility with 
   whirlpools, saunas, poolside snack bar and tennis courts...most     
   within walking distance
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RESORT IS 5 minute ride to all Brewster beaches, 10 minute ride to Orleans 
beaches and Cape Cod National Seashore.

RESORT abuts Nickerson State Park (hiking, boating) and the Cape Cod rail 
trail (biking).
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