Conference 7.286::golf

    Also is it true that a 12 deg. driver is the same loft as a 2wd.?
    I use to use a 12 deg. driver and was told by a couple of people
    that it was the same as a 2 wood. Anyone know for sure???

    
    	RE: .1
    
    	The "standard" driver has an 11 degree loft, generally a 2 wood
    	will have a 13 degree loft, 3 wood 15-16 degrees, and a 5 wood
    	22-23 degrees...
    
    	Gene

    re: .2  Also the standard length of a driver is 43" while the 2 wood
    is 42�".  (Just a nit there Gene)
    
    Back to the base note.  The numbers seem strange.  It says that the
    driver and the 2 wood will go the same distance.  That doesn't seem to
    make sense, but then again I'm not Greg Norman.  The ratio of carry to
    roll seems reasonable because the ball will be higher with more loft
    but I don't understand getting more carry with a 2 wood.
    
    This season I played with a custom made persimmon driver.  12� loft
    and 42 3/4" long.  I felt that I hit the ball more solid an further
    than with my old driver.  I have assumed that the reason was better
    contact.  Maybe Greg's got something there!  I wouldn't bet the
    farm on it!
    
    
    						KO

    It is very often not possible to speak of exact specs. A point is
    the fact that Raymond Floyd was using a #2 Iron with a #1 Iron loft
    at the Skins Game. This could be a great "gamesmanship" issue if
    you were not aware of this fact and in Raymond's foursome.
    
    The only thing that is for sure is that a #2 Wood was once called
    a brassie and that club has a course in Scotland named after it(i.e.
    Brassie which is along the Royal Troon coastline on the Irish Sea).
    Even in the case of this course, the spelling may not be an exact
    replica.
    
    Tom

      Since todays clubmakers supply about anything you even DREAM you
    need in a driver, I think a 2 Wood is probably obsolete.  You can
    buy a driver fashioned with more loft (up to 12 degrees from Taylor)
    or virtually no loft (7 degree tour burner from Taylor).  Shaft
    strength and length are also modifiable.  Call it a Driver, a 1
    or a 2, it's still your tee club!  You also can get anti-slice,
    (1 or 2 degrees closed face), or anti-hook (1 or 2 degrees open).
    The hard part is figuring what is right for your swing.  In most
    cases I BET WE ADJUST TO MATCH OUR EQUIPMENT SUBCONCIOUSLY.  In
    my case, metal woods seem more forgiving.  I thought of putting
    my trusty 9.5 degree driver away for a 7 degree for more distance
    (read roll) but I don't want to relearn my tee swing, it's been
    too good to me.  
      I would try a few different loft drivers and pick the best 
    "feeling" rather than use a 2.  (choke the shaft a little if you
    need to) 

    RICK

    To .4 - Maybe we should bring back those old club names to rid
    ourselves of the oxymoronic "metal woods" designation. It makes
    much more sense to refer to "metal driver/brassie/spoon/cleek."
    But then the olds Scots never envisioned woods numbered beyond 4,
    so new names would be needed for woods numbered 5 and higher!
    

    Re:< Note 458.6 by MTWAIN::F_MCGOWAN "Ci stiamo gia divertendo?" >

    Does that mean that my 9 wood doesn't have a name??? :^)
    
    Tavo

   
    
     If anyone of you is looking for that added roll and distance, I highly
    recommend Taylor's 7 degree Tour Burner; it is a real Beast.
    In all actuality, the metal clubs have a lower center of gravity
    than that of the wooden make, thus a 7 degree metal may be like
    a 9 nine degree wooden club.
    
    Also, The club is as forgiving as any driving club I have ever played;
    yet it is a 7 degree wonder that seems to go and go and go.  
    
    When you need accuracy just pull out the 3 wood, but when you want
    to gain the most distance you can, this weapon is truly magnificent.
       
    
    

    I play a Taylor 9.5 degree driver and carry a Taylor 12 dergee Tour
    Brassie which I call a 2 wood. I don't know if the 2 wood goes further
    off the tee, because I always hit the driver off the tee. The only
    time I tee up the 2 wood is on long par 3s, otherwise I'll hit a
    2 iron off the tee, because you know what they say - if you're going
    to lay up lay up. The 2 wood is great from the fairways on par 5's,
    it's just like hitting a driver from the fairway. I also carry a
    Taylor 17 degree 3 wood which I always have trouble hitting probally
    because I'm always hitting it from the rough.

    I play a Yamaha 12 degree driver off the tee. I feel the added loft
    allows me to tee the ball lower thus giving me a lower trajectory
    which turns into more carry/roll.  Also looking down at the club
    head while standing over the ball is more mentally pleasing with
    the added loft, more mental comfort usually leads to a freer (?)
    and more relaxed swing.  Another thing I like about the added loft
    is it plays fantastic from the fairway,  really brings those long
    par 5's into range.  As always it boils down to personal taste and
    what works best for you.
    

    .7 - It's called a "9 wood"! ;^)
    
    In general - I reread the section of Norman's book, and found I'd
    quoted him incorrectly: the 220 cary/40 roll for the driver's what
    he said; but for the 2-wood, he said 240 carry/10 (not 20) roll.
    
    Sounds like the right driver for me would be a 12 degree metal 1.
    Hey, I put one on my Christmas list...
    
    Frank
    

    RE: 11
    
    Great choice, now all you have to do is determine the shaft you
    need!  (neverending cycle)
    
    RE: 8,9
    
    Don't cha love those Taylors!!!  The flexibility of different 
    degrees of loft is great!  Besides... don't they feel super!!!
    
    Rick

    Re. 4 - Good point regarding the difference between what the average
    weekend hacker's clubs are and a pro's. In "Dead Solid Perfect"
    (the book), the "hero" remarks that at one point in his career he
    was carrying a "bag full of 2 irons"!
    

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